want to be a russian and if you want to be friendly with russia, go to russia. you said this just a few months ago. so coming back to sentence sanctions, we will survive the measures reach the president and the government are developing, liberating and being announced. this is only the beginning of our economy to adjusting that together, just adjusted to the new situation after 2014. as i started to say that we did gain experience to rely upon ourselves. and the, the biggest lesson from this particular historic period is unlike what we saw after 2015 that now if there was any illusion that we can one day rely on now less than badness. this illusion is no longer there. we will have to rely, oh no, now a sales and are now lice. who would stay with us?

this is the, the, the main conclusion for the russia in the context of for jo, politics. i think it's safe to say that russian culture specifically has become accustomed to being part of you might say, a global village of countries that share deep economic ties and enjoy traveling between each other. how do you think these sanctions are going to influence the everyday life of russians and the long term in relation to that? well, as i said, the assessment of what is going on in my view clearly indicates that what the american wants is union portable which would be not like a global village, which would be like an american village. and the maybe american saloon where,

you know, who's the thrombus is calling the shots. and they said they are succeeding due to mobilize behind themselves. and on the basis of their own interest, the entire, the entire western less than the world. which is indicative of how independent nate members and european union members and which is indicative what, what the place the organ union as i said would have in the future configuration of the world situation and will system dara players who would never accept the level village under the miracle shareef and china india, brazil's, argentina, mexico. i am sure this countries do not want to be just in the position of an uncle, sam, or there's them something. and they say, yes sir. and of course,

russia is not in the category of countries who would be, who would read it to, to do so. actually, when people save and americans and western europeans and other say that the russia was defeated in the general assembly because vast majority of countries vote against the russian action in ukraine. it's misleading. because if you take the, the population represented by the countries who are not voting against russian. and especially if you take the number of countries who introduce sanctions against russia. majority of those who hold that against us did so, and the huge pressure and the blackmail ah, including could i know this for sure, including the threats to individual delegates regarding the assets under united

states bank accounts, children studying in universities and so on and so forth. it's absolutely not an unprecedented blackmail and pressure i was out any scruples. so majority of those countries who whoa did the, with the wrist, they did not, and they would not enter your sanction. cindy's rush, they believe that it's, you know, not very big price to pay for their own practical cooperation was russia and just the road on something which is needed for the worst, for him, daily, propagandistic purposes. so we will be as always, open to go. duration was any one who is ready to do so on the equal basis of the basis of mutual respect and searching for balance of interest. and of

the countries in the east or fresher, much more, much more disposed to act on this basis. and we will certainly reciprocate for the, for the, for the benefits of both us and our partners. now we're not closing the door on the west. they are doing so. but when they come back to their census, and when this door use reopened, we will be looking at proposed projects of coal duration with very important thing in line to which i under that already that we will be going into go duration with them. knowing very well that we cannot be sure that they are reliable and that they are credible. as long as i'd like to take the discussion now to sort of different topic these u. s. sponsored bio labs in ukraine. i mean, for years already, russia has been trying to bring the world's attention to them. and the latest piece

of evidence connected to them, the russian military just put forward not too long ago with documents signed by us officials in connection to them. why do you think the world is not paying so much attention to these bio labs and will washington and the allies be held accountable for what they're doing? they're actually, it's interesting that the, her special military duration launched by the president of the restaurant in duration health discover many things which are very important for understanding of what is going on. recently, the military of russia together is danielle scott le ganske forces discovered duck him. and so the ukraine in general stuff indicating clearly that they was preparing a mischief attack again then yes, gonna look,

ask republics. so the alteration which was launched by russia, in fact 3 entered the threat and didn't allow them to implement what they wanted to do. and they wanted to do exactly what they failed to. to do implementing the new agreements. they were trying to use what they called glen, be, and to take these territories by force, leaves bloodshed in non believable sc on believable scale in addition to what they have been doing to civilians for the last 8 years. but another set of documents which was discovered these, as you said, documents related to military biological activity of the united states in the ukraine. the documentary signature of ukrainian officials, u. s. military, those laboratories, created being have been created by the united states all over the world,

more than 300 labradors in various countries. many of them on the, during the over the russian federation and the former soviet republics, including ukraine. ukraine is probably the biggest project for the dental gun who is running. this is show the special stance threat reduction agency over a month ago and is in charge of this biological activity. and they develop, developing very dangerous. but the genes, including the plague, including brucellosis, on tracks many others, which are really very dangerous. and we know that they would experimenting on, but then show infections, which could be related to the ethnic groups leading in east of ukraine and in

neighboring regions. so fresh we have been raising decision international organizations for a while, i would say almost more than 20 years in 2002. and we suggested that the country is participating in convention on prohibition of biological and talks in the weapons should develop a verification mechanism which would be transparent, which would be understood by everybody and the plate the every but because the convention itself provides for consultations. if any, but dissipating state has some suspicions or some information to be sure the state would like to clarify. and if these consultations indicate that there is a good reason for some kind of investigation, then investigation is supposed to billing. but there is no mechanism to investigate

them. there is no mechanism which would require each and every country in response to an address to provide information and to be or into transparency. if it's biological activity, anywhere deed on your own territory or abroad. by the way, the american some years ago, decided that that is too dangerous to do the sink. these things on their own soil. so they moved all this threatening and dangerous activities to other countries and more and more, they concentrate their research and experiments around the borders of the russian federation and shade. so we will be insisting on this issue to be picked up by the biological weapons convention. but also by the security council, because it's a clear threat, the international piece, some security and the, the meeting of the security council,

initiated by the russian federation, is taking place on the 18th of march itself. and we will be again, emphasizing the importance of negotiating a legally binding protocol to the convention on biological weapons, which would be require obligatory transparency measures by any participating state that americans have north life is now and would be against it. but this position of this over them is not. there's not defendable. i am convinced that more and more countries understand how dangerous this this plans are. and we will continue to fight the whole thing on the topic of washington's role and all of this. i mean, there's been a lot of talk specifically from zelinski calling for weapons to come to his country from the west. he's talked about a demand for establishing a no fly zone over ukraine. and this is something that joe biden just recently,

again said is not going to happen because that would leads no doubt to outright war between russia and nato and the united states. why do you think ukraine is so desperately trying to make some sort of scenario like that happens? well, they think ukraine understands the joe biden. what they like to think of some of his statements is their experience, politician. and he understands that that is absolutely in admissible to, to establish something like a no fly zone to provide the planes to drain and to do other things which will bring the risk of direct confrontation between nathan russia. just, you know, immediately by julian schools understands there are much more much less responsible politicians in united states who are being educated by ukrainian lobby and jazz

driven by joseph. are the feelings, and many of them i am congress and as you know, they, they adopt every now and then resolutions condemning russia threatening russia. and i believe he, he, he is counting on them pushing the president and the direction of more confrontational approach. while we clearly said that any, any cargo moving into your granite territory, which we would believe is carrying weapons, would be a fair game. and i mean this, this is clear because we are implementing the duration, the goal of which is to remove any threat to the russian federation, coming from the ukranian soil. and this was part of our, our proposal and december last year when we suggested that we negotiate was native

security guarantees the way we should be quantifying the old agreement to reached the highest level that no one, no country should increase of security at the expense of the security of others, so they know what that is all about. number 2, they also speak about about the missile defense and the 4 of his reasons for pragmatic reasons. they think of asking nato members who possess a soviet defense systems. to shoot this with them. i would like to remind the countries who might be playing with this idea that the soviet and the russia made systems of missile defense. so often now that, that purpose of the year on the basis of inter governmental agreements on concerts, which includes and the user certificate. and the end user says,

certificate does not allow them to send this weapons to any 3rd country without though a consent. this is a legal obligation, i understand that a galaxy and legitimate and the legal obligations is not something which allison colleagues, a respect as this. they already, you know, thrown away the presumption of innocence, the private property being sacred and many other dealers on reached quote, unquote. liberal values have been, have been resting for so many centuries indicates, but this is a serious matter. and i can assure you that we would not allow we would not allow this risks to be materialized. the purpose of our duration is to protect the civilians which have been a born done. sheldon murdered for the 8 years o n dimmitt. there is

a dignitaries, ukraine, so that, as i said, it does not possess in threat to the russian territory. and that to find security guarantees which would be based on this equal indivisible security principle for you. praying for russia, for all european countries. we have been proposing this for many years, and of course dennis of vacation is an absolute must. and that includes not only canceling the laws encouraging nicest ideology and practices. but that also includes was throwing in a legislation which discriminates russian language and the other national minority languages. and in general, national minority rights and ukraine, we should have been hugely discriminated and defend oh, we've talked a lot about the kinetic war, but i wanted to ask another question about the information war. actually,

a few days ago, the white house had a briefing with several popular tick talkers in the united states. and they were basically, you know, briefed on a new anti russian narrative that washington wants to put forward. what do you think about it is such an sort of on hand, underhanded propaganda technique when it's usually russia that they're accusing of misinformation and underhanded tactics? well, we are very, very small player in the national information war. it's the, the information of hold information is dominated that by the media belonging to the americans. the breeds, anglo saxons in general. and of course, the germans, the french and others. it's another matter what is the quality of those of those information outlets. they more and more become ah,

if you take see, and then they, they prefer to avoid that analytical materials. and they more and more concentrate on some reports which would be made of slogans. russia is an aggressive a. russia is murdering her civilians. a russia is abusing the sports and so on and so forth. when they, when they concentrate on the cheek talk and other resources like this. another pledge forms and when they target kids, because the dog is about young boys and girls, i believe this is an attempt to brainwash them for the rest of their life. and this as indecent and not fear. if you want the information competition, if you want competition among good media outlets, then that must be some rules. and i would remind you,

and your viewers that in 1990 when the soviet union was a living gun, that this new thinking conserved than the o human values, common values for the mankind. the western colleagues in organization of security and cooperation in europe, they were pushing very actively and finding support on the soviet side. the no series of documents and no c on the freedom of speech shown access to information. and such documents. roy, indoors by consensus and organization for security and cooperation in europe these days when on your channel. and the sputnik many years ago banned from attending, for example,

press conferences in briefings in lizette in paris. ah, when we were drawing the attention of the french colleagues that this was against the commitment the notice see they were saying no, no, no, no, no excess. the information is applicable only to mess media and our dns put new. they're not miss me. did their propaganda tools. ok. another example of abusing the commitments and obligations and couple of years ago in london, there was a conference on freedom of media in the more than volts, or we will not even invite that. and the no russian media wasn't late. so we know the manners and the tricks which had being used by the western countries to manipulate media we, we understood long ago that there is no such thing as an independent western media

. i think the 9th of states only fox news is trying to present some alternative point of view. but when you see you, which are the channels. and when you, when you watch read the social networks and the internet platforms, when acting president was blocked. as you know, and they said no, censorship continues in very bigby and the, you know, substitution of notions whenever, whenever something is happening by, by the way of mess brought this message demonstrations, which they don't like. they immediately call it domestic theories. so it's, it's, it's, it's a war and it's

a war which involves the methods of information. there isn't, there is no doubt about this. the very interesting example was yesterday when billed to newspaper in germany. published a piece saying that myself on the evening of wednesday, lift moscow by blake to go to china. but in the area of novice, severe sc the plane during beck. because either put in told me to come back or the chinese said, we don't want to talk to you. it was published by yes, it's at the lawyer, but there's millions of curtis and it's it's, it's a shame that we have this habits being introduced into the information world by over france. and that there's not by, by incident put in said about the existence of the empire of

life. well, just one more question for you miss elaborate. of course this conflicts in ukraine is not going to go on forever. when it does come to an end, what do you foresee as the main challenges in future russia? ukraine relations? well we, we never had any issue with the ukrainian people. i have menu growing in france. the 2 people's very close culturally is practically all of them must speak and those who don't understand the russian language, culture, common history, boy of life added to the life, traditions of families and communities a. so i hope that when they sir, anomaly is over, this will gradually come back,

it will have to be gradual. it can come back fast because the efforts of our western colleagues to make ukraine arrows afford to can then they rush an instrument and they russia as, as putting gold it, they started long ago. and they are already there other deeply rooted in ukrainian mentality, especially the young generation which was born after the demise of the soviet union. they have been indoctrinated than the very, very law. and then the efforts war now taken systemically, to drain a military officers on the basis of radical bandera answered herridge style methodology for the purpose

being to make sure that they would not become ah, friendly to russia again. and that they would build their nationalism nationalistic feelings. as the means to strengthen the state of the or of their country. but this, this, the therapists, the purpose was always to make sure that russia does not have ukraine as a friend. it's like as big as in ski in the late ninety's, last century he said russia was ukraine with a friend, lou gray next to it is a super power. russia was ukraine, which is not friend at the russia is just originally. so this is a concept is very deeply rooted in, in the minds of american policymakers. and so, and it will take time to get 3 of those negative legacies.

and even, even now, when the armed forces, so few crane, mom i fighting, trying to trying to know progressing the crisis. this is happening because the leaders of ukraine was the help of american and the other west and advisors reform the army the way which puts the this, the radicals. i've been there like 3 officers to do that. the leads all mean oh, more, less meaningful units in the ukranian. and this people are ridiculous and terrors. others especially those who don't believe that this should be the faith of their country. and the way they behave in the cjis and muddy. open the refugees who are coming from mario, but the russia in dozens of thousands, they tell their story,

said sir, really 3. so, how this, this, this kind of people, mo, command, a men on the women. but i'm sure at the end of the day, the historic closeness of 2 friends or no nations. so we'll certainly prevail on that let and on that note, mr. later on, thanks again for giving us this interview and showing our viewers the russian viewpoint. i was a great discussion. thank you very much. ah. i was just going to read it in. yeah. how many times when i want to

with world with you, i'm with you. i'm with full credit. it's going to be out of wood from beach to still be

patient, but i to in the board with ah

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