learned about the bio labs in a video that was circulated on youtube. we saw not only allegations that her assembly bringing it up, i approved her to be a russian asset. we saw calls for her to be prosecuted simply for talking about it down and in the united states. there is just a refusal to engage with anything that russia is saying to examine the evidence that russia is presenting. there is, seems to be no concern about the real threats to public health in this situation or the reality that it appears that the united states was working with ukraine to develop, you know, biological labs that were carrying out military operations. this is a very, very serious issue in the united states seems very concerned about the use of chemical and biological weapons in other countries and has repeatedly raised that of the security council. however, when russia raised this concern and presented real documents signed by us officials, a lot of evidence to back up their claims that we saw the i did, states simply ignore it. britain echoed some of what the united states said. why to

divide between officials in the global community, china made clear that they are very concerned about the danger of biological weapons and the threats to public health. but the allies of the states, they seemed to just simply dismiss rushes words and ignore them. call them propaganda and conspiracy theories. and that is it for me we'll have more coverage and news at the top of the hour. this is our international. ah ah, look forward to talking to you all. that technology should work for people. a robot must obey the orders given by human beings, except where such order that conflict with the 1st law show you and i them to the

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with all mr. leverett, i just want to say 1st thank you very much for taking time out of your busy schedule to discuss what's going on in the world right now. these events that you yourself are an actor of. so let's go right down to business. the 1st thing i want to ask is, sanctions these, these sanctions that are currently imposed on russia? they're of course, unprecedented. and they are really negatively affecting the lives of ordinary russians, even though washington is saying that it's not targeting russians. what can you say about what the goal of these sanctions are and who the target really is? well, thank you for the invitation and i believe the goal of the sanctions is much more strategic than just your brain. i think what we witness in ukraine is the

quintessence of the western course, strategic course to marginalize russia to contain russia to store pression rushes development and to reduce russia to 0 in the world. politics and world economy will trade vol. sports, art, science and education. and we observe unprecedented steps west and colleagues taking. and one of the underlying threats is the united states desire, which has been much more manifested by the, by the, by the administration to come back to unipolar world. and if you wish, if you wish they are trying to take the melting 4th concept from the united states

soil and to make them out of input from the entire world and they would be them elders the union already. i think 99 percent stopped trying to be independent present. mcgroon of course, keeps repeating. that started you got on the me for the or ben union this his gold and he would be fighting for it. but my guess is that he would not succeed. germany is already absolutely ready to be under the united states orders, and the situation was not stream to clearly indicated what the exact place in the world politics germany occupies. now, when the americans, in fact, has persuaded, quote unquote, the germans and others that they, that americans know much better what europe needs for its energy security than

european themselves. and there are many examples like this. so the sanctions drive is going to continue. they are threatening the fifths wave. maybe there would be another wave about where use it. and i will, i will recall that long before the ukrainian crisis erupted because of the illegal and, and to consider jewish. no good, that the sanctions was ready imposed on us. it was, you know, when the jackson, the amendment was repealed among the sky was immediately introduced and the sanctions were on the way or another state. and then there was series of sanctions, as you mentioned, for to punish us basically for supporting the legitimate core. oh, freshman's in the ukraine, basically. russians in creamier, you know,

the story. i wouldn't 3 shows the events of the sequence of events, but the latest, the latest sanctions the wave was really unprecedented than the president bush and a recall to we are now gentle. and so the number of sanctions introduced against the russian federation. more than 5000 individual, it's almost twice as many as way in for it was introduced to us there on the north korea. but the sanctions, or all of us, made us stronger after the sanctions and announced in 2014 when the west could not accept. the 3 would of gray millions to rejoin the russian federation when the west basically supported illegitimate.

and the constitutional good luck when the west ignored, you know, what was, what was very interesting for me when i talked about those events that do my best to go next. they very often use the tactic of cutting off on the one that historical period. the situation in the ukraine they started discussing only was what they call annexation, offering me if you remind them that it all started with the european union. being unable to insist on the implementation of the deal, which they are guaranteed by the position. and when the position just has thrown away the deal signed and guaranteed by the european union and then the leaders over their position and over the so called my done the radio calls like the mid 3 yellowish was saying, we then for grain with the roskus and got subs wishes moscow and the he publicly

stated that the for the russians. so when he said the russians in crimea would never think ukrainian would never speak ukrainian, would never glorify the heroes. meaning that answer have agenda, collaborators of hitler. them, the russians must be. and that's why russians the russians must be swiped out of training. actually, this was said a couple of things before the gray meals eventually decided to go director and them . and this ward sway accompanied by by deeds they sent 2 groups to take control of the caribbean parliament. and that's how it all started. not dimension the initiative immediately on the 1st day of this school did that the coaches introduced initiative to do away with the stages of the russian language and ukraine, which was in the ukrainian constitution. so all this instincts were immediately

translated into vera. so for the policies, and by the way they do those russians should get out of ukraine, is still very much on the mind of politicians in this country. i lecture me book, be the leader of the outer radical budget. some border freedom repeatedly says that we must have darrow's if occasion s, he s, he says, as you call, cold calls it. and the delivery location means that ethnic russians must not have their own language, schuster and identity in ukraine. and so many similar things. but what is more important for us to understand the governance, they state of play these statements by zelinski himself. so i said the alternator called for rations to why, though the crimea and president zaleski is in september last you said,

if you believe you're irrational, if you believe you want to be russian, and if you want to be friendly with russia, go to russia. he said this just a few months ago. so coming back to sanctions, sanctions, we will survive the measures to reach the president and the government are developing, liberating and being announced. and this is only the beginning of our economy to adjusting that to get the just adjusted to the new situation after 2014. as i started to say that we did gain experience to rely upon ourselves. and the, the biggest lesson from this spectacle is historic. period is unlike what we saw after 2015 that now even there was any illusion that we can one day rely

on now less than badness. this illusion is no longer there and we will have to rely, oh no. now a sales and are now lice. who would stay with us. this is the, the, the main conclusion for the russia in the context of jo, politics. i think it's safe to say that russian culture specifically has become accustomed to being part of you might say, a global village of countries that share deep economic ties and enjoy traveling between each other. how do you think these sanctions are going to influence the everyday life of russians in the long term in relation to that? well, as i said, the assessment of what is going on in my view clearly indicates that would the american once use unipolar bolt,

which would be not like a global village, which would be like an american village. and maybe a american saloon where, you know, who's the thrum, this is calling the shots. and they said they are succeeding to, to mobilize behind themselves. and on the basis of their own interest, the entire, the entire western world, which is indicative of how independent nate members and european union members and which is indicative what the, what the place the order in union, as i said, would have in the future configuration of the world situation and wall system dara players who would never accept the level of the gender, the miracle shareef and china india, brazil's, argentina,

mexico. i am sure this countries do not want to be just in the position of an uncle . sam ordered them something and they say, yes sir. and of course, russia is not in the category of countries who would be, who would be ready to do so actually when people say, when the miracle invest in the europeans and others say that the russia was defeated than the general assembly. because vast majority of countries vote against the russian action in ukraine. it's misleading. because if you take the population represented by the countries who war not voting against russian . and especially if you take the of countries who introduced sanctions against russian majority of those who was that against us, did so under huge pressure and blackmail including, i know this for sure,

including the threats to individual delegates regarding the s of sim tonight that states bank accounts, children studying in universities and so on and so forth. insteps a lutely, unprecedented blackmail and pressure. i was out in his scruples. so majority of those countries who whoa did that with us? they did not, and they would not entering essential yes, rush. they believe that it's, you know, not very big price to pay for their own practical goal duration was russia just the world or something which is needed for the worst, for him, daily, propagandistic purposes. so we will be as always, open to go. duration was any one who is ready to do so on the equal basis of the

basis of mutual respect and searching for balance of interest. and the countries in the east or fresher, much more, much more disposed to act on this basis. and we will certainly reciprocate for the, for the, for the benefits of both us and our partners. now we're not closing the door on the west. they are doing so. but when they come back to the census, and when this door is reopened, we will be looking at proposed projects of code duration was very important thing in mind to which i knew that already that we will be going into the duration with them knowing very well that we cannot be sure that they are reliable and that they are credible. as long as i'd like to take the discussion now to sort of different topic these u. s. sponsored file labs and ukraine. i mean,

for years already, russia has been trying to bring the world's attention to them. and the latest piece of evidence connected to them, the russian military just put forwards not too long ago with documents signed by us officials in connection to them. why do you think the world's is not paying so much attention to me via labs and will washington and its allies be held accountable for what they're doing? they're actually, it's interesting that the special military operation launched by the president of the restaurant and duration discover many things which are very important for understanding of what is going on. recently the military of russia together is danielle sca ganske forces discovered dr. and so the grain in general stuff indicating clearly that they was preparing

a massive attack against then yes, gonna look at republics. so the alteration which was launched by russia in fact preempted the threat and did not allow them to implement what they wanted to do. and they wanted to do exactly what they failed to, to do implementing the music agreements. they were trying to use what they called glenn b and to take these territories by force of bloodshed in non believable sc on believable scale. in addition to what they had been doing to civilians for the last 8 years. but another set of documents which was discovered these as you said, documents related to military biological activity of the united states in ukraine. the documents for signature of ukrainian officials, u. s. military,

those laboratories, created a being, have been created by the united states all over the world, more than 300 laboratories in various countries. many of them on the, during the of the russian federation in the former soviet republics, including ukraine. ukraine is probably the biggest project for the pentagon who is running this is show the special stance threat reduction agency over a month ago, and is in charge of this biological activity. and they develop, developing very dangerous, better genes, including a plague, including brucellosis, on tracks many others, which are really dangerous. and we know that they would experimenting on the but then show infections which could be

related to the ethnic groups living in the east of ukraine and in neighboring regions. so fresh we have been raising decision international organizations for a while, i would say almost more than 20 years in 2002. and we suggested that the country is participating in convention on prohibition of biological and talks in the weapons should develop a verification mechanism which would be transparent, which would be understood by everybody and the plight the every. but because the convention itself provides for consultations. if any, but dissipating state has some suspicions or some information to be sure the states would like to clarify. and the if these consultations indicate

that there is a good reason for some kind of investigation than investigation is supposed to billing. but there is no mechanism to investigate them. there is no mechanism which would require each and every country in response to an address to provide information and the warranty transparency of its biological activity anywhere. didn't your own territory or abroad by the way, the american some years ago decided that that is too dangerous to do this thing. these things on their own soil. so they moved all this threatening and dangerous activities to other countries and more and more, they concentrate the research and experiments around the borders of the russian federation and chain. so we will be insisting on this issue to be picked up by the by jiggle weapons convention,

but also by the security council because it's a clear threat to international peace and security. and the, the meeting of the security council, initiated by the russian federation is taking place on the 18th of march itself. and we will be again, emphasizing the importance of negotiating the legally binding protocol to the convention on biological weapons, which would be require obligatory transparency measures by any participating state that americans have north light is known, would be against it. but this position of this of them is not. there's no defendable. i am convinced that more and more countries understand how dangerous these plans are and we will continue to fight the whole thing on the topic of washington's role and all of this. i mean, there's been a lot of talk specifically from the lensky calling for weapons to come to his

country from the west. he's talked about a demand for establishing a no fly zone over ukraine. and this is something that joe biden just recently, again said is not going to happen because that would leads no doubt to outright war between russia and nato and the united states. why do you think ukraine is so desperately trying to make some sort of scenario like that happen? well, they think ukraine understands the joe biden. what they like to think of some of his statements is a very experienced petition and he understands that that is absolutely him admissible to, to establish something like a no fly zone to provide the planes to drain and to do other things which will bring the risk of direct confrontation between nathan russia just, you know, immediately skills understands that there are much more much less responsible

politicians and united states who are being educated by ukrainian love be just very run by ursa for the feelings. and many of them i am congress. and as you know, they, they adopt every now in the resolutions condemning russia threatening russia. and i believe he, he, he is counting on them pushing the president and the direction of more confrontational approach. we clearly said that any, any cargo moving into your grand in theory 30, which we would believe is carrying weapons would be a fair game. and i mean this, this is clear because we are implementing the duration, the goal of which is to remove any threat to the russian federation coming from the

ukranian. so and this was part of our aah proposal. and december, last year, when they suggested that we negotiate with nato security guarantees the way we should be quantifying the all agreement reached at the highest level that no one, no country should increase the security at the expense of the security of others. so they know what that is all about, none, but do they also speak about about the missile defense? and the 4 obvious reasons for pragmatic reasons. they think of asking nato members who possess a soviet defense systems. to shoot this with them. i would like to remind the countries who might be playing with this idea that the soviet and russia made systems of missile defense. so of any other therapists are the year on the basis

of intergovernmental agreements and concerts, which includes and use a certificate. and the end uses a certificate, does not allow them to send this weapons to any 3rd country without though consent . this is a legal obligation. i understand that a galaxy and legitimate and the legal obligations is not something which allison colleagues are respected as this. they already are, you know, thrown away the presumption of innocence, the and private property being sacred and many other dealers on reached quote, unquote, liberal values have been, have been resting for so many centuries indicates, but this is a serious matter. and i can assure you that we would not allow it. we would not allow this risks to be materialized. the purpose of our

duration is to protect the civilians which have been a born done. sheldon murdered for the 8 years o n dimmitt. there is a dignitaries, ukraine, so that, as i said, it does not possess in a threat to the russian territory. and to find security guarantees which would be based on this equal indivisible security principle for your brain, for russia, for all european countries. we have been proposing this for many years. and of course, dennis of vacation is an absolute must. and that includes not only canceling the laws encouraging nicest ideology and practices, but that also includes was throwing in a legislation which discriminates russian language and the other national minority languages. and in general, national minority rights and ukraine, which have been hugely discriminated and toughened.

oh, we've talked a lot about the kinetic war, but i want to ask another question about the information war. actually a few days ago, the white house had a briefing with several popular tech talkers in the united states. and they were basically, you know, briefed on a new anti russian narrative that washington wants to put forward. what do you think about that is such an sort of on hand, underhanded propaganda technique when it's usually russia that they're accusing of misinformation and underhanded tactics? well, we are very, very small player in the national information war it's, it's the, the information of hold information is dominated that by the media belonging to the americans. the breeds, anglo saxons in general. and of course, the germans, the french and the others. it's another matter. what is the quality of those of

those information outlets. they more and more become, ah, if you take see and then they, they prefer to avoid that analytical materials. and they more and more concentrate on some reports which would be made of slogans. russia is an aggressive, a. russia is murdering her civilians, a russia is abusing sports and so on and so forth. when they, when they concentrate on the cheek token, that the resources like this. another pledge forms. and when they target kids, because the dockers about young boys and girls, i believe this is an attempt to brain, watch them for the rest of their life. and this is indecent and not fear. if you want for information competition,

if you want competition among good media outlets, then there must be some rules. and they would remind you and your viewers that in 1990 when the soviet union was living under this new thinking concert than the oh, human values, common values for the mankind. the western colleagues in organization of security and cooperation in europe, they were pushing very actively and finding support on the soviet side. the now series of documents and i a see on the freedom of speech and access to information. and such documents. roy endorsed by consensus in of, in ization for security enculturation in europe. these days when, on your channel. and the sputnik many years ago are banned

from attending, for example, press conferences in briefings in elizabeth, in paris. ah. and when we were drawing the attention of the french colleagues that this was against the commitment than though the seat, they were saying no, no, no, no, no. access to information is applicable only to mass media and art and sport . nick, they're not mass media. they propaganda tools and another example of abusing the commitments and obligations when a couple of years ago in london, there was a conference on freedom of media in the modern volts a we will not even invite and the no russian media wasn't. so we, we know the manners and the tricks which had being used by the western countries to

manipulate media we, we understood long ago that there is no such thing as an independent western media . i think the night that states only fox news is trying to present some alternative point a few. but when you see you watch other channels and when you, when you watch read the social networks and the internet, blood forms, when acting, president was, was blocked. as you know, and they said no, censorship continues in very bigby and the necessity sion of no notions whenever, whenever something is happening by, by the way of mess brought this nose demonstrations, which they don't like. they mediately call it, the mystic theories. so it's, it's, it's, it's

a war and it's a war which involves. so the methods of information theories, and there is no doubt about this. the very interesting example was yesterday when bill can use paper and germany published that this is saying that myself on the evening of wednesday, the left more school by blaine to go to china. but in the area of no vestibule ask the plane during beck, because either put in told me to come back or the chinese said, we don't want the doctor to do it. it was published by yes, it's it that the blow it, but that there is a millions of corpus and it's, it's a, it's a shame that we have this to her bids being introduced into the information volt,

bio with france. and that there's not by incident the put in the said about the existence of the empire flies. well, just one more question for you, mr. oliver. of course, this conflict in ukraine is not going to go on forever when it does come to an end . but what do you foresee as the main challenges in future russia? ukraine relations? well, really never had any issue with the ukrainian people. i have menu koreans, france the, the 2 peoples are very close. culturally, practically all of them speak. and those don't understand the russian language culture, common history, boy of life added to the life, traditions of families and communities

a. so i hope that when they sir anomaly is over, this will gradually come back, it will have to be gradual. it can come back. fust, because the efforts of our western colleagues to make ukraine arrows afford, because then they rush an instrument and they russia as, as put and called it they started long ago. and they are already, there are other deeply rooted in ukrainian mentality, especially the young generation which was born after the demise of the soviet union. they had been indoctrinated in the very, very law. and then the efforts war now taken systemically, to drain a military officers on the basis of radical

bandera answer. herbage style methodology for the purpose being to make sure that they would not become ah, friendly to russia again, and that they would build their nationalism nationalistic feelings. as the means to strengthen the statehood of the or of their country. but this, this, the therapist, the purpose was always to make sure that russia does not have ukraine as a friend. it's like as big as in ski in the late ninety's, last century he said russia was ukraine. was a friend, lu crane next to it is a super power. russia was ukraine, which is not friend at the russia is just originally. so this a concept is very deeply rooted in, in the minds of american, of policymakers. so,

and it will take time to get 3 of those negative legacies of even, even now, when the, the armed forces of ukraine, ah, are fighting, threatening to trying to procrastinate the crisis. this is happening because the leaders of ukraine was the help of american and the west and advisors reformed the army the way which foods the this, the radicals. but there are like train officers to, to, to lead. all mean more, less meaningful units in the ukranian arms. and this people radicalize and terrorize others, especially those who don't believe that this should be the fate of their country. and the way they behave in the sieges, mario,

but the refugees who are coming from mario. but the russia in dozens of thousands, they tell their stories. it's really threatening how this, this, this kind of people command men and women. but then sure, at the end of the day, the historic closeness of 2 fraternal nations will certainly prevail on that. and on that note, mr. lateral, thanks again for giving us this interview and showing our viewers the russian viewpoint. i was a great discussion. thank you very much. ah ah.

with the media lights have been switched off all over the world. they may not be back on, in our lifetime. we look at the incredible information war, the deep blot forming cancellation, even of dostoevsky and tchaikovsky. and we look at where all began in the dawn boss. although not a lot of people know that as michael game once said, it's all coming up on this putting this week. don't miss it. western capital space. what is the name to foreign policy dilemma? the go to position is something must be done. even if that's something is counterproductive and dangerous, this is now happening when it comes to ukraine. something must be done,

means escalation. with china accuse is the u. s. of bending the flames over the war and ukraine as washington wraps up, pressure on countries friendly with russia. moscow and t a struggle to come to an agreement on key issues over resolving the ukraine conflict that has a fighting continues with reports of civilian casualties and destruction of residential areas. we sat in the base for a week, hiding from the sure i do everything. okay. and at least in british media regulator off. com, revokes artes, broadcasting license, exciting the conflict in ukraine and the networks quote, relationship with the russian federation party says the watchdogs move was politically motivated.