tv Worlds Apart RT March 20, 2022 1:30am-2:01am EDT
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in the military review gd boxes, you know, back to great to talk to you. great to see you. thank you very much for your time. thank you. thank you and be now into introduce the world to one of the greatest non violent resistance traditions. i think we all like to consider ourselves to be a future children of mahatma again. but it's also home to one of the stronger armies in the world. and you've given that institution many years, many decades, in fact, of your life as a name him as a virtual person under the general i one day. how do you look at war? when do you find it? if not acceptable, then at least understandable? look good. but it your tradition as a traditional, right? yes. or just when you are fighting for just cause well then you there is no other option that you have exhausted. all right,
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all methods and then the other, i personally think about, you know, looking for bent on doing damage to your country that i'm afraid you have to take off of it does cover to start to take off, then that is the tradition of the idea was funded what you as well, we call it just want to let you know as i'm sure you would agree with me and it's hard to find an appointment to counseling that doesn't believe that they are fighting. and i'm just more everybody who's finding believe that they are on the right side of history. when you look at what's happening between russia and ukraine, how easy is this for you to figure out who is in the right and who is in the wrong? let me be one of them straight forward. i am a soldier. my 1st concern is mike lee and it's perfection. love it, and i think it's need of an integrity. i'd be doing everything that maximizes on
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national and that that may be straight forward that i joined the army back was in 1971 as a young 2nd and then into he was a, b, b, a and property of the people of this that we then that bundle of issues that we did 1000000000 given credit. and then when that bundle of issues, we didn't do it as a refugee option but to fight because we were to stop it. you know, they would have been in there because of the lord of the additional that was the time and it was getting well good. so the option but why we're going to fight that then we will push back to the wall. we still tried everything at the end of food, but it cost a lot and then we had broken pocket on
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a farm. i think of 90000 people. that's why it was a great today. and let me tell you about the question that stood by us, that in and out of the we'll be in the now i think it would probably agree with me that for russia in the military operation is unlike any other. and it's clearly has a certain traction cycle tone to it. it's a, it's very hard for any russian to see what's going on in your brain. regardless of whether we support or government decision of whether we oppose it simply because of the highest human type in countries. and the question i want to ask you as a strategic mine is dated question, do you believe? but i think emotionally and historically still very press, what do you think an operational like that would have been avoid it. i think
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a little bit of historical background would be essential when the soviet union collapsed. i think the was the ben, i made a good, but they could give me a short present but so that they would not expand what it is to us or you forget. and then now i don't believe well, which will probably be the politics of the union, which are members of the fact i couldn't, you know, in the middle and the last line of defense that, but i sure maybe you had the gold rush and maybe you had well, you could judge you or your country is black. i like, we don't have the amount that i would like as a god. so quite obviously you will be the price to the best price on the and then right? right. so you will need one more stage. that was what i understand. then in 2000 in
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august, we're at the conference in which it was decided by the american absorb the still country on. so that was the time that the russian, that said these are that like, these don't cross that. and unfortunately the deadline was crossed. good. yeah. and then the question went into action. in 4 days, they had to fight up the door. russian b robinson captured about 567 most if you look at them all but a different the next day. busy publication game when people beat, then young, risky. yeah, the russian president for the odyssey. a, well, i know once again, that was all. you could join the russia. i said you're going to join nato
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and you are just the, i'm of any of the, of them back to, you know, they again, rush out a food and then you know, the militia and then there was a light. ok, thank you for this very brief overview. of history, it's hard for me to find somebody who actually knows the context of our little neighborhood. but i'm wondering, you know, the bigger problem for recently was not even the abstract intention on the part of your brain to join nature. but the very practical and farming of your brain with all kinds of armaments. and the question i have for you is whether you believe that
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major countries, the west, was pumping ukraine. this happens precisely because of the calculation that russia would never, ever allow of south of military action against a, for historical i'm human reason, the 2 of the greatest american a, find it out for me. and let me tell you what you said, you know it and this eastern expansion of mental as being a tragic mistake. george gave on a but when on 2nd made i did the american actor, i think you had said russia, i believe we have a we have a pension or are you serious me?
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i'll put it. you know, last year in july there was a big out of minutes the exercise in your grade in which american troops on this 2545, to submit this lead. you know, you claim to believe that if it was shot it over the ground, they would, i would go like, nothing ever started happen. and i personally, frankly think it is, i mean, bottom, all, all for the united states. well, you're good to fight that i should, but i should be i and then leave them. i would write this i'm, i'm still fighting the russian with the last you credit for that. i thought was a need. well, in december and december, the major a, b by, you know, the united states have been the but i still go, you good. and,
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and the united states website for you, if you could talk to those, to be sure that anybody should be all these. what propagation the american starts, the part that russia is b, b, i b, economic b, w. and therefore it would be a starting of it. but it is a minute to the when it comes back to us, which i. ringback you know, as well as i show as now this, that the united states padded and bubble across the, especially with the s 400. it can carry out and be accessed and then i got to stop it out. and i fucked. a medicaid is in no position,
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i don't wanna rush as back. you know, this is actually a very interesting point and review anything. most technical analysts would agree and weapons analysts would agree that russia has a logical action over the americans right now when it comes to strategic governments. but it seems that the last try, you are russia where it's for the most by actually coming ever closer to the russian boys with conventional weapons and all the churches that were traditionally considered by russia as you know, cars or if not this territory. but at least, you know, it's historical landscape. so in a way that it was also an economy move. don't you think that to trying to try to turn the crank and i guess russian as a way of honoring whining, rushes logical superiority. no, that is precisely what i'm saying, that the it is in the convention that russia has not only close the guy,
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but in that, that a lot. and you see russia already has the edge. you go, you want 300 love. you want us to america by 1500. are you sure i have the form that i put on the lights? i russia as an educator. yeah. but the critical thing is the a conventional weapons which has been a rational why? what is the right, you're not going to mention the benefit of it. and you see, i'm not saying, i'm not saying a lot of good, very famous american. what you said, trying to bring georgie and your grade. it was only a dodge, get out here to expansion was a mistake, the east broad expansion. oh yeah. i think you're right, but what about,
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i'm not as is being made out of the west of media that you just pull things desire to recreate the soviet union. well, in general, we have to take a very short break right now, but we will be back in just a few moments state she ah, mm mm. and united states has always had a news and tax on other countries. economic sanctions are often just the beginning. another thing you like to do is place some military pressure on the countries that you're talking about here.
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and there has to be an effort to demonize that country and the leader of that country. we have a responsibility for the whole world. and we need to make rules for the rest because without us there will be k i d, l look forward to talking to you on that technology should work for people. a robot must obey the orders given by human beings, except where such order is a conflict with the 1st law show your identification. we should be very careful about our personal intelligence at that point, obviously is too great trust, rather than fear. a very job with artificial intelligence we'll
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summoning, with a robot must protect its own existence with a a i welcome back to the board with major general of the army of the indian military review judy boxes. general of actually before the break you mansion, the russian president, he recently made a point in announcing the celebration, put in, made a clear declaration of war,
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of the kind that used to be done back in the 19th and 20th century. he eventually wanted on public media and to russia and the rest of the world, what russia was going to do all the a 3 you can reach his mind, but why do you think such a declaration was important to him? you are absolutely right. it's a very interesting, you're starting to pass it. the fact is that if the all i've gone, i'll go well, what i had went out of fashion. after the 2nd world, we have not received a declaration of all the, you know, when there was a problem, you know, they never let a conflict cut off a point, but that was what i mean. got it matched. and number 2, there was no ostensible declaration health problems, and i don't know that i will be understand,
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i understand. but most of the other on the 1st, on the 2nd world war where there was a good displacement. but it was, it was in against one of these, which was just, you know, just before this board for president and michael on there just then the game and discuss them being spoke to. why did and then he had asked the russian order, but he said that there was any john. so we did, he saw that. he says yes, it appears to be somebody not a b, b, b a y, a u. and we'll discuss all the discussions. i, you know, i'm pretty good. there will be no change. well then again,
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i think the address one has to be unlocked. now if you have exhausted off the wall, there's lots of outreach in a western world in media with regards to russia's actions. and as i said, this is a painful situation for many russians to end up taking it easily. but one thing, you know, after covering many wars are in my internal is to korea. one thing that i kind of understand is all these moral and ethical outrage over still a limited military action in ukraine when the western audience has been all but aloof to all the blocks. and that has been going on in the world over the last couple of days. i think the west has trivialized a normalized war lonely go. and my question to you is, why do you think people in the west of treating this more as something absolutely
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exceptional as the end of the world is something that has never happened before? we're actually look at the map and the number of refugees, a number of people killed, the number of people in hunger and then other countries destroyed. you know, this is the reality that has been going on for many, many years. let me tell you, when you're united, i backed it up. you know, there was a problem. what did you have a list of media, a like that a good that company was and so the bill came back to us. it all was destroyed. everybody can look that wrong. when be a medical that back, you have a good that can happen. this country was again,
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but did you have a leak? and then the americans do it off of the 2nd when americans, when, when the americans, libya, i mean, i can give examples. so this is i have to see if can be what i do is right and whatever be back on, please do with this. well i think the critical value will now be to be. busy except the fact that you have russia, you have pushed it against the wall in the attic. i don't think people should be surprised about the general. i don't know if you would agree with that, but i think over the last couple of years, the western russia has been involved in what i would call the end of history debate
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. the american, in the worth of the former, say, secretary, can believe, arise, what we're trying to tell russia specifically, pollution, that the cold war is over and the russia has lost. that is a specific quote from canada lisa, right. which was others, surprisingly as the 2008 who the major time is where it was present and where georgia and ukraine were indeed very conspicuously given the green live or the prospect of membership in response to all, all these major talk, russia continued to says that whatever it is, american view of history, ambition, sorry, process. russia still has its strategic, i think you are, the interest is, will decided what, how do you see the historical debate developing from now on know kind of good or professor the american geopolitical said it was
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a resident bite to react strategic believe what was happening. you couldn't look part of or the start of the european going to be the one of the arms control agreements. we get with it and act repeated lost in the world to take that as india as we think the legit demand to get it done. all of it, i think it's you feel did i that a lot, you know, on the leave a spread democracy? well, i part communism russia lead to walk and see how much of our democracy as you live . you pay for b, r a to be on any of the united states a, you know, i know 2nd to them either and i was it that be american democracy is
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superior to be one of the, to the one it, if it, on any that is i mean, if you're all of them off to be on will by the pop with. so the point is that i'm a problems of the word, but the 2nd for the 2nd for it, they did it from, you know, i didn't get it going to be a bad word. right? well, it doesn't that you're going to be also be able to do it. so we have to thank you. have a general, as you understand, such an drastic action that russia has allowed itself to t is bound to have certain international consequences. and i want to ask you about a broader geopolitical context. do you think either international players will
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change the way they present themselves and their interest define their interest on the global state. and in the aftermath of a variation that roughly on taking, you know, as a study, i see the end of the unit on the united states was it was the what the, i think is the, is the big issue of the once again, people out of the global, or don't forget the started off and the 1st one, what happened? it was a my people are on the 2nd world war happened. it was a 100 people are. and now that we have, and i bet people order list, you'll find that there was water on the words like butt and quick. we're like
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what we have already done with it. and the rest of the world is that this is becoming very, i think the fire that as a reaction will be operation special operation. and then the rest of the problem have you all that. so you can all the sanction on russia. right. and the simple fact is, you would think that russian, this invented like a 99. you brought it to collapse and not if you haven't read the new facial. right. and if the, when i say this are going to be easily, you know, escalade beyond control. get into that because you know, to exchanges and the like, which would be got us profit for the vote. can i ask you one last 2. you can tactical question because there are many analysts now that i'm looking at china and
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some of them are suggesting that meeting will be presented with the most opportune moment to take control over time. want immediately after russia finishes it's knowledge operation. and you bring precisely because the western ability to impose penalizing sanctions on to china will be very limited and would essentially mean b weekend of the western economic dominance. do you think that that's the real possibility that may come to pass on. may i remind you, you see history men are exactly the people that i could find when the cuban crisis happen. china jones, that opportunity, you get a price to a china back in 1962, a for a,
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a possibility. and then i live in the back room with the chinese and then i want them not to do this. the simple fact is that if the technical factors, if you need to book this, because in the convention then and then you could do the entire pick on that edge or the united states. i like it for the but if you wanted and it's on backyard, i'm afraid china as well. that's not a good one. been over the united states and the combination against that intensive decide to take a look at it and then you, i don't like, i don't think it would be the use of practicum you no problem. let me give
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you a 2nd. let me think would be there because that are huge population investing center. what i see is the military capabilities that would be what happens or. and finally, general, i began our conversation by quoting the american general omar bradley and i want to finish it. another call of his american back in the ninety's was running on the golf lee history. one moment to run down. god how america she looks like the really nice to help us all to find a common sound with mercy, strategic thinking, compassion and mutual respect. we are the, the main condition for lasting peace. i really pray for that. thank you very much
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for being with us today. i hope you are sure i will do all the nations of the world . i hope all is a good guy. well, i think that has been like, i'm sure it's going to be brought it back to except that he doesn't want to join it out. if you had said this 25 days back, they would not have been all that the structure even now if you get a piece by the way, i'm sure this will happen and i'm sure i'll be happy or time that i thank you very interesting. thank you very nice, but reach out to our question. thank you and thank you to our audience. we're watching hope to see you again next week with
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ah, with the aftermath of the fighting ukrainian cities, the residential and public buildings destroyed amid reported shelling with rescue workers struggling to search for survivors. civilians in the daniel town of boulevard are trapped in a destroyed hospital after ukrainian troops, allegedly open fire from a tank with we have been sitting in the basement for more than 2 weeks. i haven't even lost track of what date is the fighters. we're all based here on the 2nd on 3rd force and conducted an active hostilities from the hospitals territory. we had about 400 civilians in the basement here. the fight is new. this us wraps up the pressure on nations that refused to rule out any friendly ties with moscow. india
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