ah, on turn begins with alka, but it does not in there. it will not end until every terrorist group. a global reach has been found. stopped and defeated. ah . i think we lost more in the warranty. so you know, a comparison decline, resort to torture, and i think it gives them the illusion of mastery and dominance and control by torturing essentially we blind ourselves. but we could in fact create a democratic society which actually has consistently valuable and effective

techniques to fight terror. the fact that we don't is more an expression of our own anxieties and fears. mm mm. so called test interrogation techniques used by us officials were basically designed as techniques to break down the human mind. and therefore, also the body because they are very connected and leave note physical traces. it's an extremely destructive practice. torture on, of course, on those who receive this pain and suffering. but also on the sidey that becomes a society of cruelty. what we've done is we've not so much lost the war on torture

as we've won the war on democracy. and that through terror arising a population over a period of decades said that there's nobody in this country who didn't grow up with some booking man, some danger 1st, it was communism. then it was terrorist. ah, we are obviously engaged in many facets of what is generally called the cold war. rich, the communist policy is forced by bad no dog as sci engage in any political activity, or any intelligence there was not approved. at the highest level,

there was a concern that emerged the 1st started cold war in the late 19 flores that the soviets had cracked the code of human consciousness. that they knew how to apply pressure upon the human mind and break the human mind. and it was that, that set off this whole pursuit that laid ultimately to the creation of the she eyes, doctrine of psychological torture. this was the time of the brain washing scare. there were show trials in eastern europe, in hungary and poland, which aroused a lot of concern in the west because people seem to be confessing to crimes that they hadn't committed or mm. most importantly was the trial of cardinal months and sky and hungry. and jessica

was already in natural war 2, quite famous because she was known for having resisted the nazis and their occupation of hunger. and then after the war, he became the cardinal in the primary church. they arrested him, they can find him, it was jesus being an aristocrat, it became a kind of target of that regime. and then he was put on trial, were publicly he confessed to the charges against him. and there was this fear in washington, the prince of the church, a man known for his courage, under nazi pressure, that if he could be broken, clearly the soviets work session of techniques. the c i a's reaction was primarily around what they thought was brainwashing the concerns with communist brainwashing. what they never seemed to realize was that

these communist techniques were actually borrowed originally from earlier american techniques. in the 1920s in 1900 ten's, using sleep deprivation exhaustion exercises. all these other techniques were standards, domestic policing tortures. they were also driven by 2nd concern. there was a moral panic in the 1950s that an american p o w is in korea. they confessed to things that were completely untrue and it didn't look like they had been tortured. during the korean more, what happened was that there were chapter down american aviators. and there were around 30 pilots, a testimonies. there were 4 pilots that broadcast on radio burgeon alleging that the united states was using bacteriological warfare against the korean people

. after the armistice, one, these pilots were released or brought back and they were put through court martials and they realize that they had been put through what was then called brain wash. could you describe the method used by the communist with oh yes, i would put these methods into to categorize physical torture. all the start and mental torture. it consisted mainly of standing at attention, having my face flap once in awhile and i did fail to respond as they wanted me to. it consisted of being confined in a very close area. the mental treatment which they gave was a start day designed to try to wear down my resistance to their interrogation to break my well power to force me in some manner. to confess.

a mind control project starts in 950. this was a project that involved a $1000000000.00 a year. there was a, a formal creation, a british american operation at the highest levels in order to mobilize behavioral scientists. so these 3 countries are to kind of crack the code of human consciousness of medical doctors or cornell university medical school in new york city. they got access to some of them are classified material on people that escaped from the soviet union and had been tortured in the survey in wolf was a very well known neurologist. he had a personal relationship with our dollars to head of the cia and with the human ecology of son wolf offered to who does cia essentially

a france in order to study questions of brainwashing what they discovered. i was 11 of the 2 foundational techniques and the ca, doctrine of a psychological torture. they discovered a self inflicted pain. what they described in that, in their, in their co author article was that the most devastating technique that the k g, b a n, k b, d practice was not crude physical beatings. but simply making subject stand immobile for hours and days at a time. if you force a human being to stay in a certain position, especially position that puts a little stress on ligaments or muscles or bones, joints. it doesn't take very long for the pain involved to become absolutely excruciating. but nobody slain figure finger on you. you are doing

it to yourself. ah, that was one of the techniques, the over technique they discovered was from the, the, the biomedical research. there was dr. hats work. it was the chair of the psychology department. and mcgill university in canada. students volunteered to participate in the study of human behavior under extreme and prolong monotony. their hands and arms were softly covered to muffle a sense of the punch all horse ride subdued by a mass comfortable bell choir. and yet it was impossible for most of these students to take it for more than $24.00 or 48 hours. center deprivation really is a way of producing cream monotony. it's a horrible experience getting worse and worse for

a sub is talked about cooling. what they said was that the degree of boredom became intolerable and was once i'd been shed as bad as anything you had to hitler had ever done to any of his shug theresa victims. as we know from almost any basic medical understanding, human contact is what makes us human. and a leg enables a person to have it a sense of normalcy in their lives. and when they are completely isolated from any human contact and often kept in this sensory isolation, you will literally easily become severely mentally impaired on that then they came okay. consult with the she i could she had to work for them. is really the progenitor, modern psychological torture on that.

this project funded another guy, mcgill named dr. dylan camera. what your and cameron did at alamo moreland city was, was close to monstrous. ah, i came in psychotherapy, i was just crying, crying cry was a hopeless. i didn't know what to expect. they said i was going to the psychiatric ward you meant that on that day, cameron? that's you and carmen. yes, i met him and we were all was terrified of him. why? we also fear we all had a fear of him, and we didn't want him to notice us because whatever he did, whenever there was a patient with them, the patient was always screaming. so

what we've got to do is identify the threats that we have. it's crazy confrontation, let it be an arms race group is on often very dramatic development. only personally, i'm going to resist. i don't see how that strategy will be successful, very difficult time time to sit down and talk with industry to restore and just look up from when literally a muscle around noon. she judy doesn't be military and she'll on obnoxious to me as possible. mama, kirk rush, sit critic, somebody to look up to his ashley. uh, this is one of the most of the biggest piece that goes down to come here from $1.00

to $3.00. if this is sort of cool position to to you, but now it's not booking for the children to network for furnished or something like that. and then we got that for that, that might be worth a 1000000, residential for eval gray. meet that have that a nelson as well. yeah. wow. div easy while finance says oh yeah. or you know it's a one slide yet if south. yeah. rush south was i really need it. that the new dock. awesome boys. now watch

them up all me at that. i'll pull up my people in the yeah, full of getting from sheila, the systems to them sort city it's, it's the watts eula a bill come yes. my thought watching in the it again to you watching body of the bill at about the 1000000 search financial these are the days and hours. oh, the occasion professor, you and cameron was a very famous psychiatrist. he was head of the american psychiatric association and the world psychiatric association. he was the top of the field. at the same time,

he seemed pretty much willing to do anything. and the for the cia to find a doctor who didn't have limits in a nearby cap at oh, with lots of patients to work with. last as subs as subjects was somebody they were interested in supporting patients would come in ah, worth ordinary psychological emotional problems. they sign their waivers and, and they were be subjected to this czar written of extreme center deprivation isolation for, for up to a month. one of his favorite things was he had a sort of a football helmet with a tape recorder in that would play a tape on look up to 500000 times, say things like my mother, it's me. and he would blit the brim where broke center deprivation and kind of psychological emotional a song. well, what's working?

i mean it's garbage move. ah, what he did was he would put people under massive electro shock and he would give it to the banner prolong basis along with what he called sleep therapy. his idea was, once you wipe the brain clean, you could wipe out the site, the a buried behavior, the bad ideas, the ideas who were messing up people's minds. and you could program in other ideas . electrical vasa therapy picked up and was widely used in germany before it went anywhere else as a way of returning soldiers to war. the german army was going to spend tons of money on psychotherapy for regular soldiers, so they were looking for cheap and effective ways to send soldiers back to war. it

then moves into the united states in the clinical note of march 23rd. 19. $62.00 confirms a $129.00 e. c. t. 's cameron's clinical notice september 12th recommend patterning and sleep . the clinical notes of october, 19th, november, 1st, november, 3rd, november 8th, november 15, all confirmed the patterning and various stages. my sister was that was supposed to be acting strange, right. my mother decided to have, i decided to have the bill to the on find out what was wrong. so i went to the on a couple of months later and her bathroom has shocked on me. i was in now on for 6 months and this would repeat yeah, over days and days and weeks and yeah, it's what you feel you have been through being the patent. yes,

i guess and i say you in mariah and are different we're older. i mean, you're a somehow could be yeah, well. 1 a true friends with me, so when i came out, i was still active and so on. but they did. you went through 3 sessions of d patterning treatments. and when i asked you about things before you don't, you don't remember like i say, if i ask you what were you? what's that for you typing for the national defense, for instance. oh, on that now, are there certain things in your memory that you just don't remember? oh, this 1st hospital life. i was about 1616 and a half. the doctors pushed me into a sleep therapy. and that was it for about 3 weeks in sort of a deep sleep. but i don't remember getting up to go to the washroom. i don't,

i just remember that the doctor came in occasionally to feed me, and that was it. and then shortly after a while there was another patient that came in and she was an older one and she slept in the other bed. when i started to wake up, i saw these patients and these patients were in tube, some of them they had earphones and headphones. i dont know if they did any of that to me because when i was the 1st 3 weeks, i don't know what happened. but this was d patterning. ah, the, she is doctrine of psychological torture that they develop through research in the decade, the 1950s. and was codified in the bar counterintelligence interrogation manual. oh hm. mm

mm. mm. as to basic techniques on which all the rest of the procedures to run one is sensor deprivation. and the other is self inflicted pain. ah, the cia trained allied agencies in the techniques. so in effect, you know, knowing about, dissemination about is huge, send these techniques to other armies. could you take an ordinary individual, like a resty or recruit and make a person become an effective interrogate? and it seems that milligrams experiment was like an art of this project. when i learned of incidents such as the destruction of millions of men, women and children, perpetrated by the nazis in world war 2,

how is it possible i asked myself that ordinary people were courteous and decent in everyday life? can i callously in you mainly without any limitations of conscience under what conditions, when a person obey authority, who commanded actions and went against conscience? these are exactly the questions that i wanted to investigate at your university. the mower experiment very simply was assimilated torture. this was one, not all the research we've been describing is the impact of interrogation upon the subject. milgar had another agenda, the impact of interrogation upon the interrogator. if he were to indicate the wrong answer, he would say wrong. then tell him the number of roles you're going to get him. then give him the punishment and read the correct word pair. once he got an ordinary people who fit by all the regular scale is very normal americans. and then he

subjected them under false color to due to doing what he called an educational experiment in tried to encourage people to apply ever higher voltages as a false patient kept on getting, making mistakes. in fact, milgar was able to encourage, at least in his 1st experiments, i think close to 70 percent, to go on to apply highly dangerous and sometimes fatal shocked. i'm not going to get that man's name is learner lice. and not we must go on until you all refuse to take the responsibility and get that intentionally essential as you continue teaching. still many left here, i mean j going to get draw good as to when i left. i mean,

i'm going to take the responsibility of the job. i'm responsible for anything that happens here. continue and actually slow. wow. dance truck music. answer. blaze wrong. i know 90 my votes. dance. yes. you did this simply with a very simple thing. putting the person behind the wall and having a person with a white lab coat, telling them that they needed to continue. very ordinary people can be influenced by situations. and it's one of the implications of both the milligram experiment is embargo.

the stanford prison experiment was i think, a unique attempt to answer that question of what makes some people behave in good way. but what makes some people having a bad way? and so the idea was let's find an evil place and prisons everywhere in the world are evil places. and let's fill this evil place with only good people to get the students involved. i had convinced the palo alto police department to make mach arrest of all the students who got a president. and then they came down to the basement at stanford psychology department. the place where the prison study was done. the idea is prison is made to feel inferior, insignificant, worthless. the most important thing is you take away their name, they become

a number. and of course, given they have smocks it with no underpants that behind is showing like my 1st hour in there. it was humiliating, lose also, abrupt was quick. it was just, you know, take them off, put this on. and then i got dusted with baking soda, which was supposed to be the d. lauser. and i was living in the cell. what some bardo did was a very cheap dark off of the kind of thing that milligram was doing not always embargo, but i think, you know, the guard called john wayne believed that ethics don't matter if the environment is artificial and that's not true. all life is real life

we needed to get tougher with the prisoners and it could well be that we were instructed by the experimenters to get tougher. in fact, i don't think we considered ourselves to be a subject of the experiment. were merely a tool of the researchers to get the results they wanted from the real subjects, which we thought were the prisoners. and i decided to become the nastiest prison guard that i could make myself or i was responsible for coming up with all these routines that i would put the prisoners through where i'd have them stand and align, recite their numbers, do push up to do jumping jacks i had never once stop to think that these prisoners were suffering any harm or any damage. we're not,

we're not beating anybody. we're just sort of applying psychological pressure on them. oh wow. yeah. a yeah, harms me. how did it? how does it hard? just to claim that people can be like, yeah, and let me in on some knowledge that, that i've never experienced firsthand. i read about it, i read a lot about it, but i've never experienced it. and i've never seen someone turn that way and i know you're a nice guy. you know, well, you and then what would you have that? i don't know. ah, ah, is your media a reflection of reality?

in the world transformed what will make you feel safer? isolation for community. are you going the right way or are you being led to somewhere? which direct? what is true? what is great? in the world corrupted, you need to descend a join us in the depths or remain in the shallows. ah with industry to restock and just look up some levels only a muscle is on noon. she doesn't being in the green shield on a to me as possible. mama cook gas gosh, sit to somebody,

tamika. but i put his ashley. uh, this is one of the most of the biggest piece it goes down to $1.00 to $3.00. if this sort of cool with you, but now it's not looking for the cim bryant's can that work for phones or something like that? and then we got that was there, there was a need for you with that ah, more than a century ago marked when remark that god created more so that americans would learn to griffey. and few us officials have done more to put that into practice than my guest today informing us national security advisor and former us ambassador to the united nations. john bolton has supported all recent american lab wars piece . absolutely appalled by russia's actions in ukraine. why is that

ah, ukraine's president zalinski suggests that nato has been to face in its approach to his country, telling him privately that ukraine could not join any time soon, while publicly keeping the door open. i'm being told that every day, more and more such trophy weapons fall in the hands of the russian troops are to take a look at 8 years of western arms applies to ukraine, believed to have fuel that the conflict in the country. you countries are split over whether to impose an embargo on russian oil. as politicians say, the measure would severely impact the blocks economy and rules for the but not for me. as western politicians are quick to castigate. russia over the

ukraine conflict, but are conspicuously.