the same cause are for me once shame on you, i met a car and the west have successfully fooled the world and they are to putting themselves to be a democracy and freedom loving and nation. but their actions historically have declared them not to be such. i'm in, you look at something as simple as nature. nato was initiated to respond to the soviet union. but what is the pope's purpose of nato when the soviet union collapses in 1991. instead of following the u. s. society nato uses that opportunity to expand. i mean, we stand with the russian people when they say enough is enough. we saw what happened in poland. we saw what happened in georgia and it is enough. and clearly we cannot allow our sales people to come with guns here and tell us that they're preaching piece. we've got a situation in our continent, and that's why we share the sentiments of the russian people. we've got something

called african, yet there's no wall. there's no point for us to come to be here, especially if it is not assisting the people of sussman, if it is not assisting the people of western sahara. so we do not subscribe to this, said not a table renew, went order. and if the inviting as to when you were order, we are saying to them enough is enough with assumptions. sanctions must officially be declared as instruments of war because they made that states continuously uses this sanction to crucify innocent citizens who have nothing to do with whatever expansionist mentality they have. if they want to tie, get, put them, put him. why are they not targeting to president put in what does, what did the people of russia do? and this goes to say that the, the west and thinking must be called to order. and we're here that the russian federation has decided to stand up to the bully. we do not subscribe to any mentality or idea off and you will order the only well to what or well wall. all i

mean, well order that we want is one that speaks of peace. it one that speaks of silencing the guns and to us please them to. tim has displayed by opening the humanitarian recorded door by coming on the table and wanting to discuss with the cleaning custom. that is a display that is shown as our sentimental piece. and we are saying that war on war 2 and war and shooting to all what was said con, curious about president biden's speech was how he mentioned that 60000000 people died to pave the way for the previous world, oda and we're sort of message, do you think he's sending when mentioning so terrific numbers in context of a new world older this indeed is the proper age that has torn the almost found the like salad retreat like torres, as my colleague has pointed out earlier, it's like he's happy to see now there's

a moment the u. s. could seize upon and a to re game the leadership of the world of the new world order still called a well people in russia and ukraine obviously stopped for some people even died. and there's the money to our inquiry, and the world is being kiosk, in the wake of the mall as the ongoing pandemic, a crisis. so this is indeed, i want to say, we don't, we're to, to say there's a new global order under the us. you deployed the to lead. of course, as you mentioned, the number of people died. that's scary. you know, people would ask us prepared to do something to involve beep or in the war you crim that man, you know more people who to be killed. so this is the problematic, the lease, and also i'm not sure how, you know, he get this idea like almost common way to,

to lead. you know, well, the always ongoing pain. we are ready to leave this a new, a little older. you know, people hold eternally biting count, unite his own country. we know how to box them or days and he's in danger. you know, his party democratic party is in danger of losing majority in the congress in the upcoming. meet me like saying november you know, given is the inflation rate pressure. and also this, his handling of the people almost already expressed the displeasure with his, with his management issues and extra you take a look at the us the relationship with without the countries. yes. the u. s. is happy to be like there's unity because of the current crisis between european countries, the us, europe, country is getting closer to the us instead of

a relative economy because of the new challenge. but then if you look at a global you basically the us and the, you know, the european countries, the japan, probably the form to the west, west east west is alone. and the global south. if you take a look at the big developing countries like india, china, south africa, brazil, he said indonesia, argentina, you know, we live in the developing world when we see the crisis here a credit when we see the sanctions imposed by the west, the, when the make the decision, the never to, into the ration the interests of the developing world, like both countries when they be, in no sense in russia, how can they continue the tweet with russia when russia with, from which, sexual so the pressure china, the pressure india to cut pies with, with the russia,

you know, they have their interest only their interests in the ration, not the interest of the rest of the world. remember, develop the prime minister of france, that recently the ukraine, that the, you know, it is not western world, today's popular feeling of injustice and resentment toward this, the west this, i would say this, that this west that he's spending a lot, came up to you. joe biden certainly seems to think the western world is now united perhaps even more than ever before. do you think that's really the case though? i, i don't really think so. i mean, big, for example, biden's are those statements that he made right at the point when he's talking about the new world order. look at the language biden, 2 years ago when he became the american president was supposed to be the

distinctive liberal, who uses a gentle mental language. now he called the russian president, a war criminal. i quote. even he talks about india. he says, india is shaky in isolating russia now that's not the language it consistent with a person who is trying to unite the word. i mean, india is a member of the board, right? india, australia, japan and america, all 4 other members of the board in terms of indo pacific issues. now you suddenly point south, just because in the us, national interest doesn't go inside with that of the us. by doing the language changes, goals in a shaky in i actually think russia, he doesn't realize that he was equally shaky. in fact, worse than shaky when he withdrew from a gun. his fun. when he withdrew,

form of god is gone after 20 long years ago. and his son was reduced to rubble and it was totally american failure. and in that country like india was involved in trying to bring about peace, but totally left isolated. so what i'm saying is that his entire rectory, of trying to bring in the free world, i mean india is the world's largest democracy and you called died the shaky in isolating russia, the new flex the language in the past. often american who said, if you're not with us, you want to get stuff. that is not the language of, you know, a great visionary was trying to unite the free worn was trying to unite europe even within your or several of the countries in europe. for example, are dependent on russian oil, russian gas, b, r d. it is very difficult for them to agree to the kind of sanctions that the

americans want. or let's see, a few western european countries, one, several or even germany, for example, finland. somebody love the smaller country master, don't you like to be? many of them are very uncomfortable with this idea of massive muscular sanctions against russia. the, the, the, the need of the art is to reduce temperatures, to bring about pleased to let dialogue and diplomacy replace what's going on right now. to try and be the bridge between, let's say, ukraine on russia. but that's not the language. it's like a credit. if you don't listen to me, i will impose sanctions. i destroy, you. you are, you are a like a war criminal. i mean, that is not though the word that is not the language of

a leader of the free world who should be uniting the reward. and i don't think he has been even able to bring all the european union countries to gather, let alone the rest of the world and, and to day the entitle ward the w centered around europe and america. i mean, the, the big powers as my, my sort of colleague from china pointed out the big countries emerging countries in the world on india, china, brazil, south africa, saudi arabia, many of the 20 countries. and not only that, several, the, all the members of the united nations. so this or an ad against, of the moment members of the security council that we would have done the war heard if something that that mister biden was otherwise supposed to be a part of a gentleman. he should, he should not language. the language should certainly be one of as i said, diplomacy we. ringback read using all kinds of tensions right now. healing the

world which is facing a dummy, which is a several countries in europe are about to enter the recession. britain being one, unimportant, natal member. so right now the language should be one of trying to healed away. not send some kind of signal, which is the thread. and then further divide the word because that will not need to any kind of, you know, a balls or to future. ask us on, coming back to you and what kim was saying certainly brings us back to the discussion of a multi polar world. something countries like russia, china and india proposing for many years now. would you consider jo biden's proposal of a new world order to be a challenge to the idea of a multi polar world? a amended definitely is a challenge. look, i will keep on speaking about libya and because, by the way, there's no single african states that is

a member of nato. and there is no single african member, a state to that one, but a t p. they killed mom a cannon. gaddafi, we will not forget that an african leda julie elected by his people. and it so said that they did not. if they put, did not even give the african union a chance over it's area of jurisdiction. and it, we don't want a uni paula welch at where one country it controls the entire international financial system. we, we encourage as, as african people, we encourage em, progressive superpowers like china, to use this opportunity to ensure that alternative platforms are created. we need to move to a welsh estate of a wealth order where these sanctions of the u. s. are ineffective. and it's important that we study recognizing and looking at these sanctions as instrument of,

of what i want to say to russian citizens. that they may not see sanctions as soft power and as not military power sanctions imposed against a mission. and it is an attempt to separate the russian for deletion from the well, we wouldn't fuse, it would be possible for that. and we are seeing that we've experienced what this new world order they, they be referred to, that, that you went order, delinquents and african union. and it, it puts, then it may talk powers over africa and that we are refusing to be part of that. and it's not just limited to that. you know, these people have declared war against talent. they've declared war against talent in the world. if you are talented and who are not clear pro american, it is a problem. and we are saying that it, it cannot be correct. that to bill gates is called an innovator, yet

a visionary like it and a limb. alicia, it was man of it, roman up rome of each under heavy bucklin sanctions. and we are saying that it clearly these people, even as they lie to us and tell us about it for the world, they declare war against talent, talent, which has no political by us talent, which has no view on international matters. how do you ben cats from competing in competitions? this is out of dense, and it's a display that they don't have any intention to have conversations. progressive conversations. and you know, the well does, it is a refusing to acknowledge the patience of the russian people since 1991 when the soviet union collapsed it since 1991. when the soviet union collapsed, the u. s. and need to have declared war against the citizens of russia. and we

don't want it russia to declare war again said the well, however, we are saying that war on war 2 and walk. and we cannot fight a guns with brooms and sticks. and we, we, we applaud president putin, he must continue to stand them. he must continue to fight the bullies where as men knew about the does, they spend time, not a ting, and i do like i do amazing solutions. we are happy that there is a wendy that will finally stood up and challenged what is called a system. and by the way, this job, by them will be dead. you sticks up on the new. what are the, what is a point of speaking up on the new world, although where you will not be alone. we young people of this world progressive young people who are born out of struggles of up on day 2 upon out of struggles of colonialism. we will declare where this well goes and we are 6, well, my school, that protection of peace and that peace will not be mistaken by them to. okay,

thank you very much. we're running very, very short on time. i have to time for one quick question. i'd like to post to all of you. if you could keep you on his brief, i'd really appreciate it. i'd like to ask all, if you're speaking of the, the western idea to exclude russia from the g 20, which countries do you expect to definitely support russia on this? that's good to came off as please briefly though i, i don't think, i think it's a really silly idea itself. i mean, russia is a very powerful country. russia has highest amount of oil and gas. and, you know, russia is almost number one in space technology. russia has been one of the biggest suppliers of big defense equipment to a country like india. how can you ice removal from june 20? this is an arbitrary, completely arbitrary sort of real mock. and it should not take place. i think, in order to talk to someone you have to respect that country. russia should be part

of june 20. only then can you bring about the solution. you cannot bring about the solution by, by throwing it out of that you 20 or isolating it. it's the wrong strategy, according to me. i meant to share your thoughts. well, i think that, you know, the g 20 is important place to discuss global economy. is that the mechanism to resolve economic issues, the challenges and the theme for this is the g 20 b to be really about recovery after this dynamic. and it's not about the issues related to the ukraine crisis, politics. so the western pressure seems to be like, like, i couldn't walk pressure on russia and, but it's very hard to make it very hard to the host country indonesia, because indonesia, china, south africa, reveal value would be all these countries, india, it will say no to a clue to russia, otherwise the frontier will be russia is

a super power in terms of the why. if you want to solve this, ignore the problem we need at the end of the by well developing countries like india, china. i believe the met him in the other countries need to be rolled from roger. we have to keep this trade on and finally to this is cassandra. thank you. and thank you for your view. as in south african view, as to be particularly in the in see as a close, we want to make this message clear. i mean young person, i'm a student of history books and i've studied at what happened and we don't want you to repeat itself. and while saying that all countries which find themselves as former colleague colonies of leticia rule, all the countries which find themselves as former colonies of american portuguese spanish, you name it, they need to remember history. and they need to know who helped them when every one

to clear them. tell us when everyone to clip as enemies of freedom, we know who stood with us. it is our time now to stand correctly with those who are portrait and defended us when we will just animals, when we will quote the monkeys that are those for us as human beings. and it is the citizens of the russian federation. let us not be opportunistic and betrayed them at the pinnacle and sickness gentle, momentous in history. while saying to on the bricks, member countries, we are watching as young people of the world. and what if you see 3500000000 citizens in 5 countries of bricks? let us unite. let us ensure that if they remove russia, promises this in china must come to as a trick, not logical giant, and out uplift, out of that was refusing their consumption all of us if they're going to sanction. as for the same ideas, that monday law chem, if they're going to sanction us from the ideas of or the but then there must continue. but while saying that we as actually can people,

we will stand on the correct side of history and we are not while refusing to be to be convinced by television revolution will not be televised. it will not be retreated. we land and we study history and it's spend with the people of us. i think i'm afraid that so we have time for thank you very much. so 3 of our guests joining us and sharing your insights on the problem with this, with a speaking to a to came, our diet is of the research at india today. telecom is cassandra chairperson of international relations at the african national congress is league. and mr. changed or she political analysts, senior fellow at pango institution. thank you very much. thank you. ah, the u. n. 's international telecommunication union has refused to allow the russian candidate for secretary general to even present his candidacy. the i to you bond received is mylo from the meeting in geneva without giving any reason the only other candidates from the us and was allowed to attend. the association of the credited correspondence arranged an online news conference. so is my law could

speak where he expressed surprise at the un that behavior in a way, this is the only opportunity for me so far, to communicate and to speak with a will because i didn't have an opportunity to come to participate in. i to counsel is not only about, you know, the situation in ukraine as well say, well, you know, the sanctions. i cannot travel. i mean, my visa and mastercard, they're all blocked as well as bank account in russia. i've never had, you know, the one abroad, but it's a, it's a challenge actually have to take some cash, travel a role. i mean, there are problems on their very high level, like, you know, geopolitical what they call, but only about as well in the personal personal level. it might be

a big challenge actually to get these are somehow or then all flights somehow to get into book artist in september, i'm not talking about them. the period between now and an election itself will be very problematic, really, on washington's criticism of russia's military operation. and ukraine has come under fire over how differently the u. s. treat its own actions during the occupation of afghanistan, which so numerous cases of collateral damage, including the killing of 10 civilians and a u. s. drones strike in august last year. the investigation found no violation of law including the law of war. did find execution error, certainly see clear evidence that russian forces are committing more crimes. the pentagon concluded that the couple drug strike was quote, an honest mistake, and that no american military personnel would be punished for the killing of the

gun civilians which included 7 children. the u. s. ruling sparks our wage and scanners on which recently saw the end of 20 years of american occupation. let's discuss this further now with anti will activist david swanson, who's the executive director of the world beyond war organization. thank you for joining us on the program. it's good to see if this was that was your take on how the u. s. tried to white wash its own killing of civilians while now blaming russia for alleged war crimes in ukraine is complete hypocrisy by all sides. and the u. s . hypocrisy is absolutely no excuse for russia to be doing as the u. s. does. and there's no such thing as war. crime, separate from war. the instant that russia attacked ukraine, it was violating the un charter, the kellogg brianne packed numerous treaties. and conventions, and every element of that war is a crime, as has been understood since nuremberg and of course,

the united states use as cluster bombs. and he's only upset when russia uses cluster bombs, but there is no excuse the other doing the atrocity is no justification whatsoever for either one of them doing it. so it's just, i mean, how many times have i come on r t over the years, and you guys have acted as if you were against invasions and attacks and bombings and cluster bombs and vacuum bombs and all the rest of it. when you were against the use of those things by the united states is the same thing with us media. they are against the use of these things by anyone other than the united states. as we know, rushers, they say heavy power of western sanctions. i 1st operation in ukraine. why wasn't the u. s. given the same treatment when it bonds and invaded other countries? it's absolute hypocrisy. it's not justice equally distributed. it's justice for those who are not the united states. you know, if the united states had spent the past years supporting the rule of law and the

international criminal court in the international court of justice and accountability for u. s. criminals, it would be in a position to say things to russia. but russia has not joined the international criminal court. russia, like the united states, is a leading hold out on key treaties and on supporting the rule of lawyers i, they had a hypocrite lawyer show up for ukraine at the international court of justice. russia didn't show up at all. mean there is absolutely no respect for the rule of law on either side of this thing. there's just the use of it as propaganda against each other side. is there some way to to hold the u. s. accountable for the atrocities committed by its military, have the decades of interventions around the globe. there was, at least a month ago, right? russia could have said stop, stop ridiculously suggesting that we will invade by wednesday. what a mockery,

what, what absurdity we abide by the rule of law and could have joined the international criminal court could have joined treaties, could have unilaterally upheld treaties that the united states is torn up and could have urged the world to support the rule of law. and sanctions and prosecutions against the u. s. for its crimes. now, russia is in no position to do that. no governments that bow down to either washington or moscow or in any position to do that. this is what war does to the rule of law, you know it, it erases the possibility of upholding it from, from either side because everybody becomes a cheerleader for the grave of crimes on earth by their side. yeah. on the nato countries now supporting ukraine by pumping these huge shipments of weapons into the country. how is this supposed to align with west coast? the piece will, it doesn't,

and there aren't any western calls for peace. there are western calls for escalation and a disagreement over whether it should be with weapons or active direct participation. this is the extent of the debate just has on the side of russia, friends of mine in russia, who i thought of those war. they only opposed us war and now they want escalation and no negotiation. just like people in ukraine, the ukrainian government. i did a television show yesterday with a member of parliament from ukraine wants. no negotiation wants escalation if it costs us life on earth. so be it, this is the madness of war and there are very few and far between individuals and organizations, and absolutely no television networks on the planet that take a principled stand against war and atrocities by everyone. from the world beyond walk and eyes ation. david swanson, many thanks for your time. thank you. i thank you for joining us here on

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ah, president pierson says russia, gas exposed to europe should now be paid for in variables aiming to stabilize the currency while ditching the u. s. dollar in international trade. nobody did issue. so i decided to implement the sets of measures in the shortest possible time to transfer payment for, for gas to play on friendly countries into russian roubles. and ukraine, russian lead don't yet. republic forces say they've taken control of more than half of the embattled city of mario, intense, i think this included rates of civilian building to sweep out ukrainian troops hiding inside. and washington steps, the pressure on china to join the us lead condemnation of russia with beijing standing firm on its neutral storm. despite threats that american sanctions against .