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dime action retention. you're watching going underground team, and i will be back soon with a brand new look, despite nato nation and the you censorship. but until then we'll be showing some of your favorite chose a for season so far. i'm actually retents. here we're going underground on ukraine's day of resistance to occupation of the autonomous republic of crimea. and the city of asked of all this at the end of a week in which british politicians have been seemingly attempting to interfere with the independent regulation of broadcasting by calling on you k, p. m. bars, johnson. to shut down this channel effectively ending press freedom in the u. k. johnson, the former journalist himself claims the doing what the british labor policy want him to do would amount to be being as bad as russia, with nato nations and the u. condemning. russian president vladimir putin for authorizing what russia calls a special military operation against the graeme after antony blinkin canceled his meeting with russian and minister counterpart survey leverage nation media is

talking about the whole new era and geopolitics. let alone nuclear weapon use here are naughty and had going underground. we seek to question more, as well as provide viewers with all sides of any debate. we have been reaching out to pro ukrainians to hear their side of the ukraine invasion bridge in the current climate. many do not want to come on to talk to us. we like therefore, to extend an invite to any ukranian journalists or politicians watching now to come on the show and give your side of the story. but joining me now from moscow in natalia nourish at sky, the former vice chairman of international as committee in the russian duma. thanks so much italia for coming on. not sure how much a british media you're watching. i know you're appearing on on it sometimes. as you might know, ne donation media has been broadcasting. views that vladimir putin has gone mad. and boris johnson has called on the russian people to overthrow what he says is a dictator. it well as the language of course. so for

co, modern or western eat leaves much to be, you know, desired. because even in the 19th century, the notes are to declare war, sir, began was mad shit, more gentle and men longly are vocabulary now. well, i believe that i met people have expected, after the dismemberment of the soviet union. that such huge geopolitics entity as was the historical russian state which grew in centuries and came to actually broom with alter ward in centers. would just be drafted as a 15 or new states and everything would be stable, et cetera. so this

a few trial and obsolete paradigm of democracy versus it'll tell italian as you could or for them. i explained everything. but what about on my poor ukraine? why poor? because the grace of my ancestors lie, it shall niga of region and my grand to what father was before evolution. director of a college in chattanooga and my grand grandfather was a priest, orthodox priest. in saint michael church insured and eagle ridge. and so you understand how, how painful it is all for me. but you grin was composed of a very different and even conflicting huge. our population and parts are. that's history and vladimir putin in his address or to the nation, explained it or not to say that she's not recognized. they said that just to

explain why it had to explode, because galli share hadn't shared the destiny. was also looks ukraine for 500 years because it was under poland, chest or in 14th century. then under austria, hungarians, and then it again or as polish territory between 2 and world wars, et cetera. it hates russians. god then moscow lights for them. we moscow light and i am all some mixture of barbarian mon walls. we sit on. busy such, shins and while the ukrainians there, arians, you know, and we have stolen the key of history and be something heritage. so, and we are so huge and we have multiplied and reached 3 oceans.

so, and to see these people from calisha could have become, what now russia ease. but for all that history, since 1945, the united nations was set up. and the un secretary general and donor gutierrez said that recognizing donates and no hands. the unilateral measures conflicted directly with the principles of the charter of the united nations. and that in for if also said a name checked the international court of justice. i don't know whether for a broad circulation of letting me bruton, if the un secretary general, who oh, presumably has some of the history books there. if, if antonio gutierrez says this speaking for the un, then garage exaggeration is committed a crime,

or by the way, international court of justice goes into a new one. it just gives legal assessment of a deed or over an issue or well, the west mom, clover in yugoslavia, signatory to the o. c. no documents and found father founding father of the united states. the states under the retakes that there were genocide against fell by means . it was not an aggression. according to the western interpretation, it was a humanitarian mission. wise. the west ignores the 80 years going civil war that keep started against the nest and will ganske people who have been shelved for 8 years and civilians does thousands of

them were killed in my house now in moscow lives a woman from logan's carriage and whose house is think without windows yet, you know, and she is crying every day, et cetera. why is it? and in the recent, these preceding the act to her, of our president, the shelling exceeded any scale since their fights over the, the last airport. and there was real threat to the lives of people and you know, and as you know, in the later nation media, all we hear about our people from their attacking ukraine. but you mentioned yugoslavia on this program we talk time and time again of alleged violations of the you and charles her by nato members. you mentioned yugoslavia there are,

which is often alleged 2 wrongs make a right russia now acting like like the united states. russia. whoa, as far as quick. oh, cool. so what is concerned? there was no referendum at all. and the west recognized course of a contrary to all the rules on to regulation. so there will now labourers random not let me, let me, let me just say another saying this is only one aspect of what has happened already . another aspect is that the west was not sparing any effort to shrink. oh, the russian zone of our security and with every step in this, shrinking, wilbur accused more and more of allegedly being so aggressive had said so we had to pay and to pay for our losses. this drink was compressed to the limit and mister putin and our government a warrant in december, and they openly, ah,

you know, declared the prince boz, which walt ow satisfy russia. exactly, in terms of its legitimate security. just imagine if mexico is declining, jerry ha, america in government and russia. stout suck, lying it with soviet union, start supplying it with arms miss grosbeaks to from mexico to enters the warsaw pact. oh, the think, what is united states do in this case, when all what 3 did during the caribbean crisis when cruise shelf installed, some was watkins while next, reaching the american territory. and we were on the green also nuclear war that we were ways enough. you know, to step back. so this link is considered

a compressed as an image. it can only and, and clench. and that if we have to pay, that's my own opinion. you know, i'm not. and being asked that erst state function, i am just an expert. and besides my carstairs member of parliament for 1st of all, i am a historian and from the family renowned historians. i studied the international relations from each a still 20th century. okay. whether it's will arguably a girlie the we have to read it were b let's. it's better to bake for games and not for losses. while arguably the united states, sir had to fill them in japan with the mexican revolution in a very different way. and obviously did occupy territory, but then why did vladimir putin say he wasn't going to invade and war were all the russian drills, military drills that occurred in belarus and in russia beforehand,

while russian or even the foreign minister. so gay lover of all assuring everyone there would be no invasion. was it just that particular nights shelling by ukraine, that is alleged that cause this invasion? or had this been a plan for months and even years? russia was believing and understanding and seeing that obviously in the west, to have a pretext not to. i'm in the united states, of course, and maybe also britain, because europe is now has no voice. it needed so much intensive ideas, concepts, med center. so, oh, real, a coaching to us for. spangler asked me to have a pretext, not to answer,

rush us the months in regard to security, in their situation. certainly sponsor the aggravation situation against a region which ukraine performed, especially to provo crash. it was clear. so if you want this, now you have it because we have left no other, wait out or wait with current to leave our people, no big rush. and where are you? you know, without health. just because just because you are provoked doesn't mean you need to respond to provocation. and you mentioned wrangler. i think hardly the person for the degradation of you really. i'm not sure that's a good one to mention at this stage value narrative sky. i'll stop you there. more from the former vice chairman of international affairs committee in the russian do

after this break in, ah, with just look up some of so me a muscle with doesn't being in the green shield on. nice to me. yes. maam, cook that goes to somebody to get that to his ashley of dc. wanted to work with you, but not with trying to network for phones or something like that. and then we got that with ramonica have that

ah mm. welcome back. i'm still here with natalia nurture sky, the former vice chairman of the international has committee in the russian duma. the pro moscow line seems to be talking about as off battalions and neo nazis. what do you think about the president zelinski saying you are told we are nazis, but cannot people, subordinates?

is that gave more than 8000000 lives for the victory oven autism. how can i be a nazi tell my grandpa, who went through the whole war in the infantry of the soviet army and died as a colonel in independence ukraine. that's what sir lensky says. oh, well, i, i read. i read the address of landscape. it teaches that he never said it 5 years, a go way knees ists are poor trish were carried to long and seats of keys with torches and glorifying the hitler. we're henchmen, are there are screenings reviews done? sure that it in countries here in the media, nato nation, countries and her and then formation, picture in europe is totally different from ours. that's why we do not understand each other. you know? because the, even to glue they are glorifying or been there are that may be the cases where as

you see it, they deny that. and in fact, they continuously. and boris johnson in his statement are comparing the invasion to sedate land implicitly referencing hitler. and we hear the ukrainians continually comparing vladimir putin to hitler. what do you think the russian people, russian politicians, russian elites, and the ordinary russians think when they are being compared to hitler and the nazis routinely now in the united states and in western europe? well, of course we're no this illusion about the west, but you know, the west has all were dosed it, sir. you know, nick jewelers and tours russian some 20 years ago. russians were sensitive to

what was said about to russia and its leadership in the west. now they couldn't care less anymore because they don't trust the worst. they see that no matter how we behave, we are barbaric, you know, blanket zigzag of world history for them. and they are, they cannot stand that we are still so wiring and especially they are so hysterical . i mean, in the worst that russia, with all its programs and economy in not them enough for, you know, income per, per capita still is. zillow only nation. the only people and they only do the ship whose national state will is equal to cumulative the will of the whole west. and that happens again when hitler conquered the whole europe, because they were afraid of collateral damage because they couldn't risk as their

comfortable life. and it was only a rush and the form of soviet union, which declared better grieve than sleeve. and to chris in a glove. and now it repeats the west now in sort of organized and muley a munich accord. again, 22, orient all what they can use. thankfully, we have enough arms so that they never, there, we are against russia, but after each munich there is new bank. russian. people are now support very much, you know, how much of all protest i sent them and so russian, there are a lot of pro to sentiments and in russia i'm enduring goals is years and now it's not very calm in our society, but 90 percent of all these protests are,

are not liberal, but they blame the government, the leadership that it's indecisive and did present. and so the way it should is, you know, how much bruton in russia really grounds if he is with you, is that he is traitor to a russian or people in the ukraine that he doesn't defend them, et cetera. now they said, oh, or, or finally trying their lives. that's real answer to all these are to ross if this again and finally, after 8 years of this war. but the, the u. k. daily mail, which i think is involved in a court gaze with for prince harry actually here in britain, they report that 150 senior russian officials of signed an open letter calling the invasion, an unprecedented atrocity. how stable is the russian federation? now the decision has been taken to invade you mentioned how many

single 150 senior russian officials probably they're working in the banks and their children. study in london, oxford or hanging yard sir. a canary is et cetera. and to teach to people, we are millions who support and think differently. so you claim that the russian people's aboard vladimir putin in the russian dumas decision, even though the un secretary general serve the principles of the un charter, a norton a la carte menu. oh, very elegant, very aga elegant sir, and you're phrasing, but it has nothing to do with reality. there's nothing to do well. i swear,

and i feel that it was not russia's choice to lead the situation to such a scale that she had to interfere. and i'm sure if you green is more sober, if the united states talk or sponsoring can't, endorsing all are also for being action search in from key of source key for with regard to people. ordones, continental ganske at this san operation would urge like surgical operation or end when are their lives in your worst, she cute and and her nothing more. nobody has a desire to occupy ukraine. we hope we have no way surgical strikes and the language being used by the russian side is like the language nato used in the rog, libya, syria in afghanistan, arguably. again, gutierrez said they are not peacekeepers at all. how can they be peacekeepers if

civilians ukrainian civilians? are dying. ukrainian civilians are not dying or reports of civilians dead. and how can anyone trust what comes out of the kremlin given they said they were just drills over the past few weeks that he wouldn't invade that he wasn't going to threaten key f o. busy you say that you are not trusting call, you again says not trusting and thank to not independent source of news. so what comes from our country. but sir, are your so soon reliable after colin powell, you know, showed, or corn starch in glass, saying that this is explosives and iraq? yes, but, but even her all sources are saying that this happened that an invasion has

happened. but his moscow doing what moscow has been accusing washington of doing all through the so called cold war. well, i moscow is becoming washington only in one respect. that it clearly declares of its national interest and will never used such sure, you know, faker, et cetera. and moscow was all planned when in december it sent designated states and nato. it's concerns. it's a list of concerns which coins, which are of crucial importance for. and we're waited for 2 months. so the same if keith would be sober and decided to relax the situation. now i think would have happened like,

what is happening to day in a and now like washington coord, let's it yogi, or jury in english normally, to theory what it is entitled to jupiter is not entitled to their boot. it's oh, we're almon layton, crows, herb. i know it's it only arrogant who it was. if her room was an empire too, i've got to ask you, do you think diplomacy? and obviously washington denies any wrongdoing in all its foreign operations. since 1945 perhaps. will there be diplomacy? now to end the current violence, i think our diplomacy is always needed until be erroneous to say or when our bonds are exploding, that diplomacy is closed. no, no, i am sure. and to i, i would love to hear that there are some diplomatic steps to,

to discuss what is happening and what is her position and shooting of each of the parties concerned. lansky says, diplomacy is over. he found vladimir putin, the result was silence. well, president lance care. oh, oh god with him. he is not doing some church in it but why? why did vladimir burton not speak to president zalinski before the invasion began? because zalinski declares that russia, is it more country aggressor long before you know, many years ago in the continues to say so. yeah, well i, they buy a lot of coal from my seller da schwartz in oil gas. so. busy for,

you know, salmon to concrete, it's ok because there are no construction materials for lack always in that you step kind to ukraine, et cetera. you know, go to our no amount to for our 32 rows. ukraine is enormous, you know, is enormous. ukraine could flourish between russia and the west. when i say with 1000000 you cows milking to girls, you know, because each party, i mean, rush and the westwood new know, earning a pamper ukraine to gain more attention and ukraine could, could flourish. but now, no, the, no galle shannon irving and been there a man who could not be satisfied with her. and her vague no imposed sandy communist nomenklatura or 219 the power to read.

it immediately took the banners of calisha and philosophy, you know, and her, then it like a snowball. you're only our aggravated and i will always say neighbor countries, nato countries, denials wrong doing. they say the blame squarely with russia and her soda's, sir. so, so does it come from key of that's it for one of your favorite shows of this season, the team and i will be back soon with a brand new look. but until then you can keep in touch my all social media if it's available in your country and remember, you can continue to watch or going underground episodes on odyssey and latino come see very soon. ah, ah, ah crazy joe biden says those are w m d f imminent in the ukraine. well, he would know, of course,

because false flags are an american speciality, one of the last remaining american specialities all the way from the gulf of tonkin in vietnam through the iraq war all the way to syria. the stars and stripes are the false black and then the weak, where mr and mrs. julie and i said, we're finally able to get married or be in reduced circumstances. we look out what the future holds for the new happy couple. it's all coming up on this, but nick, i think with what we've got to do is identify the threats that we have. it's crazy confrontation, let it be an arms race is on offensive, bearing dramatic development only personally and getting to resist. i don't see how

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