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discussed these issues and more, i'm joined by my guest, george samuel, we in budapest, he's a podcast or the guy which can be found on youtube and locals. and here in moscow we have a maro. he is the founder of the center of political strategic analysis. strap hole are a gentleman, cross our rules, and the fact that means you can jump in any time you want. and i always appreciated . i start out with george in budapest, when people call it a gap. george, when it wasn't a gap, he actually said exactly what he thinks, what his administration thinks that must go. we've heard this in an administration that he worked for in the past. obama administration were assad, must go. i mean, so this really the mask has fallen off. there's, there have no interest in ending this conflict. and ukraine in the, in the ukrainians are going to pay a very heavy price for what is not nothing less than hubris. george, yes it is. what a chilling addressed by by them, because not only did you make that comment right at the end, what it's all about putting cannot remain in power. a whole tone was so

belligerent, so aggressive, if you compare that were ronald reagan, at his most aggressive like his speech in london in 1982 when he talked about the evil empire by whose address was more ferocious than anything, ronald reagan said at that time, and it was quite chilling and what was also chilling was that he said this is going to go on for many years, even for decades. so he's essentially mobilizing europe, the united states for a long, protracted cold war comb hall. busy against russia, and of course, it doesn't really justify any of that as to why that any of this is necessary other than russia is evil. bruton is evil, and it really wasn't an extraordinarily,

he never envisage any kind of a way to bring this fighting to an end. if so when you look at us, the g says, really, we're going to just go on with this. you know, we're going to keep boring in more and more arms. we're going to keep encouraging. everybody was, was this heightened of belligerent rhetoric. and this is forever. you know, we're going to have to sacrifice our lives for this, this code. or as i say, it's more ferocious than anything we've heard during the cold war. and i think that it's the very chilling visit vision that by laid out a sensually likely of the folks of, of centuries ago called it for a crusade. that's essentially what he's done. yeah, exactly. we, you know, with the concept of war it's, it's a military conflict, but how you discuss how you get there a declaration of war. you know, then there's

a, in the anymore, you have surrender, you know, you know, kind of the world war 2 model. we don't have that anymore. there's a state of war going on right now. it's hybrid in a process, every single sector and plus with the compass cation and freezing of a russian assets and central bank assets. that's a fiduciary matter that is usually been never touched. they've touched it this time, so it's, it's call our whole throated conflict and it's not going to end until apparently one side is vanquished. that's what it sounds like to me. yeah, i agree, but you know, in my opinion, biden leave in such a us because i actually is losing the war the most to were the u. s. last to war the 1st time again, against russia in 2008 in georgia. the last to were again, the child said when the risha decided to support special ed, and those i live in the mid of us with the russian economy is it was the russian

economy wizards. a russian army is weakened, the ukrainian army is strong and will defeat the russian army. but it's not the case, it's competent defense. and what i'm, what i'm very surprised that biden can make such a declare some such a war even on economic point of view on the military point of view. but he has no chance actually to win it. so yes, again, he leaves in a pallet we're, but it's not the only one imminent call, for instance, method declaration 2 days ago. and he said the same thing that russia is about to the russian economy is about to bankrupt. but it's complete. it's false is going to be false and the russian army, or is it, is about to win this, we're in the and these economy will be, in my opinion, really, 1st we use the sanctions to finer new markets. newer providers, new opportunities. so it's again the west,

the western elite leave in another world. yes, i talked it's, it's, it's almost a fantasy world that are talking about here before, you know, a biden's, a big announcement announcing a new cold war. maybe we'll come up with our own term here. on cross stock, but we, we had russian officials coming out saying that the 1st phase of their special operation in ukraine is come to an end. what i find very interesting about that and you, and i've talked elsewhere about this, is that the, the russian military and political leads don't really talk much about what they're doing. ok, unlike what you get from a blow by blow, 2nd by 2nd go or something like that. the russians are really quite demure about it and it makes one think, you know what the next step is because of course, rush is losing the war. it's there. so you know, all this stuff where there's no evidence of it whatsoever. and then there's a built in assumption that they actually know what the strategy is, but they certainly don't take it away george. right?

because the story that russell, losing the war was put out on day one, you know, you know, london now or a russia losing your booting was expecting to win this within 24 hours. you know how one of the london know this, and why would russia assume that you grain population 46000000 armed forces? the size of 260000 jar me particularly one that has been trained replenish for years and years by may. so why would they think it's all going to be over 24 hours? it was never explained, but they created the narrative that russia is losing. and from then on, it's been repeated over the russia, losing rushes, losing the russian offensive assault. and so what, whatever will happen, because it's not going to russia, it will announce that we have finished with completing our operations. there are going to be any negotiation display that was made. so the united states,

everybody's telling don't negotiate with anything, you know, don't, don't waste your time. you're winning your winning, i will keep helping your so it's not going to be any the go. she ation so rational at some point and now it's over. we have achieved what we wanted to achieve. and then that moment the western media will was repeat that russia law, russia, this fits this was a catastrophic decision by voting will be overthrown in no time at all because the military leave is. but we very dissatisfied with what, who did as a compass, but i think as a savvy, i said russia is accomplishing slowly but surely, everything that he's doing and there are on the ukrainian counter offensive. you know, the ukraine isn't achieving anything military. it's a little skirmish here and there, you know, they destroy an ahmed carrier or something that isn't the counter offensive that isn't winning. and i think, you know, that russian,

what you want to watch to expect is a state, you know, garcia and then, you know, ukraine can just a poland can have what's left of you. great. it was about a year ago. if i can remember correctly, that the foreign minister law offset that if, if the ukraine were to become a member of nato crane is a sovereign state, would cease to exist, they didn't make it into nato. but the in the thrust to get it in is actually resulted in the same outcome here. if there is no negotiations, which i agree with george, they go up to their roots and they chit chat and they run out the clock. they have no intention of negotiating while their country is falling apart. i mean, one of the, this is probably the most asinine strategy i've ever heard in my life. meanwhile, up to 4000000 people left the country. i mean, what is going to be left to fight for? i mean, i, the, the strategy coming out of western capitals. is it totally expensive ukraine,

in every sense of the word go ahead? no, actually the problem for the worst that put in is not the player. and he said on the 5th of march, he said that our demands are clear. we want a recognition of for independence. for the republics, we want recognition of the of the creamy as a part of russia. and we want you to know that she kate and to are not released. but it said at the same time on the 5th of march, this is the current proposal. but there is no dates, you have to respect. and in my opinion, the, the russian demons are changing. know, and if you look at what they do in the cities are completely controlled, for instance, in class on, in the middle. and the sooner invaluable, they put in place and you administration and for instance, or a road i read that in person in the region. there we start to use a ruble in april. so in my, you,

the russian war mp's have changed because again, the thing that couldn't could change his mind. but when put in said something and he said on the 5th of march, if you don't accept quickly, our demands, our demand would change and it's changing. and so this is the complete fault, the zelinski, and the, and in ski sponsors fault that they can't accept the fact that when russia says something you said about love learning your one year ago. if you, if you want to take a crisis, i not to do it, we won't accept it. they say that in november in december, if you want to start ethnic cleansing apparition the famous creation solution. so we will erect, the said, exactly gara, the mazda chief of stuff said it was the minister of defense to go studied level of study, put in, said it, but the don't want to listen. it's a georgia me,

i've always found quite whimsical. when you read western media, american cable tv, what is people thinking, what is it? why? it's always the same thing. just like, why don't you just go to the kremlin website or thompson, maybe just read official announcements. i mean, can take it with a grain of salt, but it's there in black and white. it's pretty easy. if you go to task, for example, there's a always write everything in very simple sentences. if you notice that it is very simple. and the strange thing is that now there's a lot of belligerent talk about a, well, why don't we escalate, you know, with, you know, even putting in a proposal. we're going in these nato peacekeepers into your brain or less of a no fly zone. bowden isn't going to escalate, he's not crazy enough to stop the nuclear war. we. it's ok, we can do this. you know, there's no danger of that be like back to the michael mccaul say this kind of thing . and it is quite clear that go to the rush of bluffing. they are very,

very serious, and they are making it very good. if you get involved in this war, we will attack it. we will attack nature, don't doubt about it. and so is it. but it's bizarre that people just continue to know who can is just bluffing. he's not going to risk a war with the mighty later that might be united states. well, believe it or not do it. going to go into a short break, and after that sharper, can you know, our discussion on some real new thing with our ah, ah, look forward to talking to you all. that technology should work for people. robot must obey the orders given by human beings, except when such orders that conflict with the 1st law of the patient. we should be

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ah with ah! welcome back across up were all things are considered. i'm peter labelle. this is the home addition to remind you. we're discussing some real news. let's go back to exactly what just george's making a point. we went to the breaker in a something that i thought about and said, actually quite a few times the russians don't bluff the act. and this is a fundamental misunderstanding that the west is had. i mean one of the things and i didn't cross talk after cross talk after cross talk from december all the way to february 24th. is that you, you are not listening. neither. these are serious demands. actually,

ultimatums. it's a call it what they are. you know, if you go one, do nato one to the united states, the decision maker, the united states. if you do not take our, our, our demand seriously is going to end badly. i told you, so this is what's happened, xavier, you know, i could add that it's serious and reserve the bill demands. actually, whether it was the husk or 4 months was ago already. but again, nobody want to listen to them. and actually if you look at the west and the wister may, yes, what they do that the try to find some sign of, for instance, the last 4 days ago wasn't available because it is working. so yes, no time to go to the and i guess it's everybody where, where is she goes of, you know, the want to find some science. we will show that put in e, he's unhappy by your what happened in a crime? so is going to fire through the did exactly the same with the chief of the a intelligent service. they did exactly the same with, with the central bank,

but no, actually everything going up following the plan. and it was everything, everything is okay. and as you say, just to, you know, just to say, russia said what they want to do, it's always very clear. you just have to listen to what, what they want and what they want. no, it's too and destroys o'quinn army because a men forces of european army is in the east. so they are destroy them in male invaluable zeno destroying them in the north region of dun bus, around earth come at us on sly youngest. and after that, they are going to move to texas city, which are necessary to be taken to a implement. in my opinion soon, you will political a solution in this region. so they will take a is i will take a hunk of their will take, or this up is there will take nicholas and actually is

a west, can't do anything again that, so this is time to negotiate. but as you said, it exactly, the point is on the surface. lensky sponsored don't want to negotiate. and so if you don't negotiate george, then the russians will all create political facts on the ground that no one can do anything about this is that this is the, the, the now the in the stupidity of this approach here. oh, and plus more and more ukrainians die needlessly when a negotiated and can come about. but that, that, that, that, that's a, that's an zalinski. ok, that sounds lensky. but there's, there's a plethora of theories out there of how this will move forward. you and i have talked about on the past, and on the independent states, have treaty obligations with russia, a new entity. nobody will see, it would be tightly aligned with russia and the $22.00 new independent states. and

there's nothing anybody can really do about that unless you know, michael mccaul wants to go new killer. ok, nobody will seriously wants to do that. go ahead. george. yeah, no, that's right. i mean, they're creating facts on the ground. and unfortunately, no ukraine is led by absolutely disastrous leaders, as has happened really since 2014. and they were, they started off with a big, huge country out with crimea, and they're slowly losing every, you know, boss on. so this country, they've already lost crimea. they're about to lose, you know, the guns and more of the car and so on. they're about to lose. know they've already lost the also see goes well lose the black see goes. so that's the result of a terrible leadership in kia that took it lead from the united states on the west,

not realizing the united states. so it has no interest in ukraine that absolutely no interest in the welfare of ukrainians. they always saw ukraine as just a battering ram against russia, and they have love the still taking the cues and zaleski who probably on the hollywood auster show. and everyone will stand up and play. and they love the whole t shirt unshaven look and everything. but it's not delivering anything for ukraine losing more and more of this country and going back to bite and speech by the messages. this isn't going to go on forever. he doesn't care about what he does. so you just wanted to go over because he sees this politically very useful. the united states isn't really, but nonetheless biting a lot of people around him like victorian london, lincoln. and the rest of this is a really good thing for the united states to believe. yeah, i think it could end up a run state, you know,

it could be called newland stand or maybe a possible names for it here on a more serious note here is, i mean the world is watching all of this. the indians are not on board. the chinese are not on board, most of africa, almost all the south america is you said right, quite rightly a few minutes ago, russian security demands were quite reasonable. they were never addressed and said, now you're, you're creating a conflict, whether it's not necessary. and when, you know, we have the case of the confiscation of venezuela and go now getting assets from the russian central bank. i think the indian chinese, they know we're not banking with you people any more. and also the dollar you trifle with it too much. why should we invest in that? this is a financial suicide for the west side. yeah. exactly. actually, biden. and the, and the, the western a lead that just killed britain hood,

so they killed the full tourist, the britta agreements, you know, 1945. so the destroys a fortress. no, they used to dominate the world. and if you look at you are just talking about india, india is about to implement a new system to pay. the good that they want to buy in will be chinese. other already such a system and no in russia, every bank want to be connected to the c i. p s. even saudi arabia. they want to sell the all to china using a you on a currency. so it's a, it's an offer one word and it's the birth of a new one. and this new one is not a including the west. that's a big problem because the future of economy of the world economy is in asia. everybody knows that for the last 15 years. and the, what we observe know is that the russia dizzy choice because we are, we,

i'm in the west or through russia, india in the arms of the, in the arm of the, in the end of the china. and i in india, in brazilian brazil don't want, doesn't want to support sanctions against russia even at this moment about so now ask for risha, asked russia for building submarines. so it's a complete disaster for the west and i've just lost. does the incredible advantageous ism is a currency and not only the dora, but actually euro as well. nobody will use definitely euro and their us as a reserve currency. and this is a big for in, for instance, for a country like france, because france is earth strongly a, some strongly dept either about to be a crappy on the country of russia. so if we can't use owe money to make it to take some credit with a lower rates, it will be very problematic and we are about to,

to meet very, very stronger economic crises, currency energy, food, it will be terrible. is it? well, i had a bad day, a lot of debt is well here in georgia, i sometimes wonder if the germans, a new world we should be a game because they're going to be crucify it by, gets what he wants. ok. essentially, this is as clipping, the switch off, the lights will go out in europe if biting and, and blinking and sullivan, him, newman, and boris johnson and the sergeant schultz. you know, they all, you know that and they go down that path. it is just a nomic suicide for the you who would want that currency if germany is not, you know, the factory of europe go ahead. yeah, exactly, and that's the point. once they did this, this is an extraordinary spectrum. seizing a country is a central bank for reserves. well,

what country is going to want to hold it reserves in dollars a year of knowing, but if they pursue any policy that the united states doesn't like that money can be seen. i mean, anything, i mean, you know, let's say that they're doing business with russia. we don't like that. we'll have, we'll take your currency. so i was in countries are going to start moving away. you know, i'm putting them into different banks holding the money in something different, but just goal oriented we, you know, something tangible rather than the dollars. but it's, it's going back to a point about the sergeant shows that germany rejected the plan that was envisaged by russia. you know, from the 1990 s on which is a kind of a partnership in russia, in the role materials of the market. and german industrial know why germany rejected that is the mystery,

but now it's essentially europe has become completely subordinate to the united states. and really, there isn't any europe, i mean, who's going to do with your, of them? you much will go to the boss. the boss is washington, you know why? why deal with europe? it's all now. you know, at the end of the day, you know, this, this entire strategy to create a euro without russia even against russia. is it severely damaging europe future because i would make the claim that this strategy is isolating euro. it's not isolating russia, certainly not china, not india, not brazil. zavion. actually, it's worse than that because what they're doing, no, by you increasing a energy price. there are destroying the german economy, which will be less a performance. and the problem is, at this time 0 opinion leave on germany money. that's a point. and for instance,

when i look at the polish government, wanted to put more sanction to complicate the economical situation for germany. and at the same time, they receive 3 percent of the g, d, p as a loan, not as a loan, as a gift from the european union. so a gift from your opinion is a gift from germany, essentially, and from france and from a italia. but what they do knows are this brings a european economy, but the lead, thanks to this european economy. and that's, that's incredible. what they do. as i said in, in the beginning of this program, they're living on a matter of us. and they don't understand how they get the money and they get a like to point out to is the strategy is destroying the west middle class. maybe that's you know, another topic for another day. i want to thank my guess, here in moscow and in budapest, when i think our viewers are watching us here. marquee, see you next time,

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