on our, not the only guy on the intercom is nothing i was trying to get you out. i was keeping you in. is your communication? oh, i think sistant who ah, ah, a more of the building. mm . more on turn begins with alca, but it does not in there. it will not end until every terrorist group of global reach has been found. stopped and defeated. ah,

mm mm. i think we lost more the warranty. so you know, a comparison decline, resort to torture, and i think it gives them the illusion of mastery and dominance and control by torturing essentially we blind ourselves. but we could in fact, create a democratic society which actually has consistently valuable and effective techniques to fight terror. the fact that we don't is more an expression of our own anxieties and fears were so called contest interrogation techniques used by you officials

were basically designed as techniques to break down the human mind and therefore also the body because they are very connected and leave no physical traces, it's an extremely destructive practice. torture on, of course, on those who receive this pain and suffering, but also on the sidey that becomes a society of cruelty. what we've done is we've not so much lost the war on torture as we've won the war on democracy, and that through terrorizing a population over a period of decades. so that there's nobody in this country who didn't grow up with some booky man, some danger. first, it was communism, then it was terrorist for

obviously engaged in many facets of what is generally called the cold war. rich, the communist policy is force, had no dog as a c, i engage in any political activity or any intelligence. there was not approved at the higher level there was a concern that emerged in the 1st started coal in the late notice that the soviets had cracked the code of human consciousness. that they knew how to apply pressure upon the human mind and break the in my mind. and it was that, that set off this whole pursue that lead ultimately to the,

the creation of the sea ice doctrine of psychological torture. this was a time of the brain washing scare. there were show trials in eastern europe in hungary and poland, which aroused a lot of concern in the west because people seemed to be confessing to crimes that they hadn't committed or mm. most importantly was the trial of cardinal minds and sky and hungry. and jesse was already in natural war 2 quite famous because he was known for having resisted the nazis and their occupation of hunger. and then after the war, he became the cardinal. and the primary of the church, they arrested him, they can find him, it was choose of being an aristocrat. it became a kind of target of that regime. and then he was put on trial,

were publicly he confessed to the charges against him. and there was this fear in washington, the prince of the church, a man known for his courage, under nazi pressure. that if he could be broken, clearly the soviets work session of techniques. mm. the c, i s reaction was primarily around what they thought was brainwashing the concerns with communist brainwashing. what they never seemed to realize was that these communist techniques were actually borrowed originally from earlier american techniques in the 1920s in 1000 ten's, using sleep deprivation, exhaustion exercises. all these other techniques were standard domestic policing tortures. they were also driven by 2nd concern. there was a moral panic in the 1950. is that an american p o w's in

korea. they confessed to things that were completely untrue, and it didn't look like they had been tortured during the korean war. what happened was that there were captain down american aviators, and there were around 30 pilots that made testimonies. there were 4 pilots that broadcast on radio bear june, alleging that the united states was using bacteriological warfare against the korean people. after the armistice, one, these pilots were released or brought back and they were put through court martials and they realize that they had been put through what was then called brain wash. could you describe the method used by the common with oh yes, i would put these methods into to categorize physical torture of

a start and mental torture. it consisted mainly of standing at attention, having my face flap once in awhile and i did fail to respond as they wanted me to. it consisted of being confined in a very close area. the mental treatment which they gave was a start day designed to try to wear down my resistance to their interrogation to break my well power to force me in some manner to confess. a mind control project starts in 1950. this was a project that involved a $1000000000.00 a year. there was a, a formal creation, a british finance american operation at the highest levels in order to mobilize behavioral scientists. so these 3 countries are to kind of crack the code of human

consciousness of medical doctors or cornell university medical school in new york city. they got access to some other more classified material on people that escaped from the soviet union. and i've been tortured in the service in wolf was a very well known neurologist. he had a personal relationship with alan dell as the head of the cia and with the human ecology of fun, wolf offered to who does see i essentially a friends in order to study questions of brainwashing what they discovered. i was 11 of the 2 foundational techniques and the ca, doctrine of psychological torture. they discovered a self inflicted pain. what they described in that, in their,

in their co author article was that the most devastating technique that the k g b or the inc apd practice was not crude physical beatings. but simply making subject stand immobile for hours and days at a time. if you force a human being to stay in a certain position, especially position that puts a little stress on ligaments or muscles or bones, joints. it doesn't take very long for the pain involved to become absolutely excruciating. but nobody slain figure finger on you. you are doing it to yourself. ah, that was one of the techniques, the over technique they discovered was from the, the, the, the biomedical research. there was dr. hat's work. he was the chair of the

psychology department at mcgill university in canada. students volunteered to participate in the study of human behavior under extreme and prolonged monotony. their hands and arms were softly covered to muffle a sense of touch, all harsh lights subdued by a mass comfortable bell choir. and yet it was impossible for most of these students to take it for more than $24.00 or 48 hours. center deprivation really is a way of producing cream monotony. it's a horrible experience getting worse and worse for a sub is talked about cooling. what they said was that the degree of boredom became intolerable and was one sided shed as bad as anything you had left to hitler had ever done to any of his son, teresa victims. as we know from almost any basic medical understanding, human contact is what makes us human. and

a les enables a person to have it a sense of normalcy in their lives and when they are completely isolated from any human contact and often kept in this sensory isolation, you will literally easily become severely mentally impaired. and then they came. okay, consult. she continued to work for them is really the progenitor, modern psychological torture on death. this project funded another guy, mcgill named dr. dylan cameron. what your and cameron did at elmore island city was, was close to monstrous. ah, i came in psychotherapy, i was just crying, crying cry was hopeless. i didn't know what to expect. they said

i was going to the psychiatric ward you met that man. that cameron, that's you and cameron. yes, i met him and we were all was terrified of him. why? we all fell to fear. we all had a fear of him and we didn't want him to notice us because whatever he did, it would never. there was a patient with them. the patient was always screaming ah,

yeah, you are 30 i school broker, legal work. so for what are your thousands of people still live in small towns and villages that have become the new frontline, georgia what they call this area. the grey zone didn't like the i to of sally ali founder of course, pretty me with that was only about a you had to come with for sharpen dishes or village olivia hail door. so no way it was funny.

so that similarly was him de morrison area with she'll breeland i knew i through and where she is. 2 or 3 alexander. okay. lou machine that tell us that she made a feel pleasure with that. with that. that'll hit somebody with buddy alleged with before he boy fin. prove here scott, your quality grow your favorite them with. i just didn't, didn't the global way to develop finished college, bonner's, not visit with you. can you go to gen and like other than you to be hipaa? these are the days and hours. ah, the occasion professor un cameron was

a very famous psychiatrist. he was head of the american psychiatric association and the world psychiatric association. he was the top of the field at the same time, he seemed pretty much willing to do anything. and the for the cia to find a doctor who didn't have limits in a nearby cap at oh, with lots of patients to work with last as subs that subjects was somebody they were interested in supporting patients would come in, ah, with ordinary psychological, emotional problems. they sign their waivers, and then they would be subjected to this bizarre urging of extreme sensory deprivation, isolation for, for up to a month. one of his favorite things was he had a sort of a football helmet with a tape recorder in that would play a tape and look up to 500000 times,

say things like my mother hates me and he would blit the brim with ropes answered deprivation and kind of psychological emotional assault. well, what's working? i mean it's garbage move. ah, what he did was he would put people under massive electro shock and he would give it to the banner prolong basis along with what he called sleep therapy. his idea was, once you wiped the brain clean, you could wipe out the site, the a buried behavior, the bad ideas, the ideas who were messing up people's minds. and you could program in other ideas better convulsive therapy picked up and was widely used in germany

before it went anywhere else as a way of returning soldiers to war. the german army was going to spend tons of money on psychotherapy for regular soldiers. so they were looking for cheap and effective ways to send soldiers back to war. it then moves into the united states in the clinical note of march 23rd 1962 confirmed a 129. e. c. t's cameron's clinical notice september 12th recommend patterning and sleep. the clinical notes of october, 19th, november, 1st, november, 3rd, november, 8th, november 15, all confirmed the patterning and various stages. myself to those that was supposed to be acting strange, right? my mother decided to have, i decided to have the bill to the and find out what was wrong. so i went to the on a couple of months later,

and the bathroom has shocked on me. i was in now on for 6 months and this would repeat yeah, over days and days and weeks and yeah. is it what you feel you have been through being the patent? yes, i guess and i say you in mariah and her different war older a race somehow could be yeah, well. 1 they didn't finish the treatments with me. so when i came out, i was still active and so on. but they did. you went through 3 sessions at d patterning treatments. and when i asked you about things before you don't, you don't remember like i say, if i ask you what were you? what's that for you typing for the national defense, for instance. oh, on that now, are there certain things in your memory that you just don't remember? oh, no,

this 1st hospitalized. i was about 1616 and a half. the doctors pushed me into a sleep therapy. and that was it for about 3 weeks in, in that sort of a deep sleep. but i don't remember getting up to go to the washroom. i don't, i just remember that the doctor came in occasionally to feed me, and that was it. and then shortly after a while there was another patient that came in and she was an older one and she slept in the other bed. when i started to wake up, i saw these patients and these patients were in tube, some of them they had earphones and headphones. i dont know if they did any of that to me because when i was the 1st 3 weeks, i don't know what happened. but this was d patterning. ah, the, she is doctrine of psychological torture that they develop through research in the decade, the 1950s. and was codified in bar counterintelligence,

interrogation manual. oh hm. mm hm. mm. as to basic techniques on which all the rest of the procedures to run one is sensor deprivation . and the other is self inflicted pain. ah, the cia and trained allied agencies in the techniques. so in effect, you know, knowing about, dissemination about is huge. send these techniques to other armies. could you take an ordinary individual like a resty or recruit and make a person become an effective interrogate? and it seems that milligrams experiment was like an art of this project.

when i learned of incidents such as the destruction of millions of men, women and children, perpetrated by the nazis in world war 2, how is it possible i asked myself that ordinary people were courteous and decent in everyday life? can i callously in you mainly without any limitations of conscience under what conditions, when a person obey authority, who commanded actions and went against conscience? these are exactly the questions that i want to investigate at year university. the mower experiment very simply, was assimilated torture. this was one, not all the research we've been describing is the impact of interrogation upon the subject. milgar had another agenda, the impact of interrogation upon the interrogator. if he were to indicate the wrong

answer, he would say wrong. then tell him the number of rolls you're going to give him. then give him the punishment and read the correct word pair. once he got in ordinary people who fit by all the regular scales, very normal americans. and then he subjected them under false collar to just to doing what he called an educational experiment in tried to encourage people to apply ever higher voltages as a false patient kept on getting, making mistakes. in fact, milgar was able to encourage, at least in his 1st experiments, i think close to 70 percent, to go on to apply highly dangerous and sometimes fatal shocks. i'm not going to get that mad. think it, there it is. i there, i want to learn a license. now we must go on until he's done wrong. i refuse to take the

responsibility and get her. i mean, he's under our end, it's actually essential. as you continue teacher. there are still many left here. i mean, ged, go ahead, get wrong, good. as to learn in last. i mean, i'm going to take the responsibility of only have was the gentleman responsible for anything that happens here? continue with. i national slow. wow. dance truck. music answer plays wrong. ah 95 volts dance. yes, you did this simply with a very simple thing. putting the person behind the wall and having a person with a white lab coat, telling them that they needed to continue. very ordinary people can be influenced by situations. and it's one of the implications of both the milligram experiment is

embargo. the stanford prison experiment was i think, a unique attempt to answer that question of what makes some people behave in good way. but what makes some people having a bad way. and so the idea was let's find an evil place and prisons everywhere in the world are evil places, unless fill this evil place with only good people to get the students involved. i had convinced the palo alto police department to make mach arrest of all the students have a good, a prisoners. and then they came down to the basement at stanford psychology

department, the place where the prison study was done. the idea is prison is made to feel inferior, insignificant, worthless. the most important thing is you take away their name, they become a number. and of course, given they have smocks it with no underpants that behind is showing like my 1st hour in there. it was humiliating, lose also, abrupt was quick. it was just, you know, take them off, put this on. and then i got dusted with baking soda, which was supposed to be the d. lauser. and i was living in the cell. what some bardo did was a very cheap dark off of the kind of thing that milligram was doing not always embargo, but i think, you know,

the guard called john wayne believed that ethics don't matter if the environment is artificial and that's not true. all life is real life we needed to get tougher with the prisoners and it could well be that we were instructed by the experimenters to get to. in fact, i don't think we considered ourselves to be a subject of the experiment. we were merely a tool of the researchers to get the results they wanted from the real subjects, which we thought were the prisoners. and i decided to become the nastiest prison guard that i could make myself. but i was responsible for coming up with all these routines that i would put the prisoners through where i'd have them stand and align, recite their numbers,

do push up to do jumping jacks. i had never once stopped to think that these prisoners were suffering any harm or any damage. we're not, we're not beating anybody. we're just sort of applying psychological pressure on them. oh wow. yeah. and then a. yeah. harms me. how did it, how does it hard? just to claim that people can be like, yeah, and let me in on some knowledge that, that i've never experienced firsthand. i read about it, i read a lot about it, but i've never experienced it. and i've never seen someone turn that way and i know you're a nice guy. you know, well, you wouldn't additional, would you have that? i don't know.

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