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i'm action retention. you're watching going underground team and i will be back soon with a brand new look, despite nato nation in the you, censorship. but until then we'll be showing some of your favorite shows of the season so far. as nations around the world continue to react and punish russia over its invasion of ukraine in violation of the un charter. but if the un secretary general was convinced that moscow had violated international law, why when joe biden arguably watered down the condemnation of russia for so called chapter 6, violation seeking peace, did not just china and the u. e, but the world so called biggest democracy, india failed to support washington. joining me now as an which is professor of some

strategic studies and new delhi sense of a policy research, rama celine. thank you so much for joining you for coming on. what have you made of putins, violation of the un charter? why have you said india will not be able to escape the largest or the larger strategic ramifications of the ukraine war? first, what's happening is a watershed moment in international relations. this market that went of a new law whose family occasions will extend to every corner of the world. the russian invasion of ukraine and the sanction centred reprisals of us and its eyes are compounding the national crisis. because the politics was already quite lucky in for the russian ambition. but things have become tragic and all the time since the nation began. and the cutting prices have the makings of have grown out and dangerous confrontation between russia and the west,

particularly nato. and as we all know, the crisis is already affecting the global economy with high energy prices and supply chain destructions said to fuel inflation and it's low economic growth. and india cannot escape these cases. and of course, the larger issue is that the rest is snapping. it's supposed to close war ties with moscow, despite the risk of meeting strategic instability globally. in fact, the u. s. live response appeals in dec effective regime change in moscow eventually . so this is the critical moment, the national nations, and i think they have been miscalculations both by president gotten and also by the western block. well, i think nato countries would surely say miscalculations would be made in deli why

when albania, in the united states had the chapter 7 motion water down to chapter 6. did. did prime minister moody say he wouldn't supported? why did they not supported when there's a time of war? and certainly here the view is that any refusal to vote with washington and nato prolongs the misery of ordinary ukrainians. what would have been here, chief by condemning russia and damning a country for the sake of condemning it doesn't advance foreign policy interests yet never. and even the boss can then i states for reading iraq or libya or any other country, condemnation is part of in different se, in any case, russia and the united states are both close friends of india to

walk into medic tightrope. that's to do a balancing act which was coming with me. this is called given the fact that what you're seeing is that went up a nuclear wall that's going to seriously compound in this strict challenges also affect its close defense stays with moscow. for example, given the financial tension said, the west us, in both in russia. how will it be? where the weapons at bias from russia? there's just one or many things. and there's also investing in russian oil and gas sector implants to invest in the russian far east. all these plans truck defy, given these mounting sanctions, it's russia. so for india, this is, the crisis really is complicating its diplomacy and

also its pursuit of long gums, credits, interest complicating it or speeding up the adoption by india of alternative methods of financing. as opposed to say the brussels based swift system and others. now, india can use new methods of financing, often discussed in bricks meetings, shanghai cooperation, organization meetings. no, no line move would meetings. so many trans national meetings that have occurred over the past. what 50 years? 70 since world war 2. you ascii, right? and i think by eliminating the system weaponized being an energy pipeline and by cutting rochelle off from west and lead institutions,

the us is actually undermining those wedding institutions because countries will be forced to choose alternatives or develop alternatives. so russia example will have to trade in rubel and ruby as it did bring the solid times. so any diet situation well have to be met with innovative methods. so i don't expect the russia and the relationship to snap because of the financial fractions, require a lot of work, both in utility and must go to maintain in relationship. that's why, for so many decades. in fact, it as it has solidified. despite the profound changes in the world,

in the past half a century, that relationship has been seen in new delhi as a relationship where they cried in test. a trend at the same time in i says, has also become increasingly important to india. so how does india balance 2 important relationships in a new cornwall? that's going to be a huge challenge for policy makers in new delhi. well, some would say it's very easy and your hesitancy is because as you know, he well, because you see china is a big adversary, that it may necessitate closer ties between your foe. he across the valley between pakistan and india, and china. and that's why you're hesitant about this closer relationship with russia without the u. s. and nato countries involved because it will necessitate closer relationships with china. that's your problem. and surely,

and to the blink and the former west exec consultant who's now secretary of state that alone jake sullivan. realize full well that there are dangers of moving russia closer to currencies other than the dollar. and his thought on par made the calculation banner from the dollar. well, you brought in china, which is so important. look at the international crisis that was created even before fortran launched the invasion of ukraine. yet how many of them in the world know that for the past 22 months, india has faced it. chinese aggression, it counties, aggression and roaming up to 200000 chinese troops. that invasion, aggression. what do we call? it began in april 2020. when try these forces furtively

encroach on several key border areas in the northern was the indian region of the dock. since then the military build ups have only escalated, creating the danger up in full scale wall. well, we, we invite the chinese bastards of the un united nation, but basically what, so your point and the point of many, and the leads in india is they don't want us to abandon its relationship with russia because they want russia alongside them in their attack on china, russia and india had fairly similar views on stability in asia or, or you ratio. and that bilateral relationship has stood the test of time. chinese kelly, an important factor in this relationship. even in this present military crisis,

based with the russians have been a social help for india, especially in helping get to fortify its defenses. so that really underscores the importance of russia for india. i don't think you can afford to see that relationship degrade in any manner, but i wrote it clea, the pakistani prime minister iran guy was in moscow at the time that we put in with daily planning, sending the troops into ukraine. brazil is not being that supportive of nato countries in washington bricks. never been stronger than that. now given that brazil india and india is perceived enemy nuclear fellow enemy, about your son. since they all seem to be against the nato and the u. s. line.

but india isn't the unique position of having to nuclear armed at groceries china and focused on that actually close alliance. so same strategic triangle in which india against china and pakistan and given that stock reality. and given the fact that greg increasingly has come under the chinese shadow, india has to be very cautious in relying on pricks as a institution. the bricks have this value, but bricks is currently not a credible alternative to other international institutions, but very much investment breaks. but so there are to exaggerate the bottom of

bricks. the fact is that the country like india, given this security predicament, has to deal with the realities that it faces. what, what is, what do you expect the u. s. and nato to do to india because of its lack of support, arguably for the civilians dying in the streets of ukraine. what has the american president spoken, even though word on the chinese potent ration against india has any western head of government supported india in the current military crisis that in that conference? usually chinese aggression answer is no. so why should be out and supporting though they still stand against russia? he doesn't have a dog in the fight against nothing,

from taking a position that could undermine its relationship with moscow. in the same time, india had done not see joe unders bought relationship with washington. and they are people in the state department who have set on set off the record to the media that they understand. india got emma and the dynamite as to why it abstain from the what the un security council. i don't, you know, i don't see how the us audits and i'm going to take revenge on india just because in the abstain from promote the un security council roberts relating, i'll stop you there more from the national security specialist and americans, professor of strategic studies at new daily's said to the policy research after this break ah

is piece at hand russia ukraine negotiations. the end the conflict appeared to be a real possibility. compromise seems to be prevailing. well, this impact the west offensive against russia. welcome back. i'm still here with professor brownwood delaney, international security specialist, and americans professor of strategic studies, a new daily center for policy research. so india tax shine or over perceived you and violations un resolution violations but refuses to attack russia. after

the secretary general of the united nations said it violated international law. and yeah, never attacked china over. why did any resolution criticize china for violating bilateral agreements, binding bilateral agreements, of course menu violate, violate while it bilateral agreement to wiley, the national law. because bilateral agreements are bought and partial of international law. yeah. not even un resolutions. and yet with russia, you won't vote with international law against moscow. well, if you look at the history of this century alone, they have been so many multiple foreign, military and nations of sovereign states in this century alone. the 2000 and began

with the us invasion of afghanistan then followed an invasion, which was monday by a un resolution. while the un has become increased marginalized and un stamp of approval on anything means humans come of a pro can come even ran a country flow to international law. for example, the us invasion of iraq and occupational the country using the protects, that there were weapons of mass destruction in iraq had the human stamp of approval . but that didn't make a legitimate international law s b, c, a is powerful against the policy and policy a case. the powerful extra harsh reality might makes right,

is still very much intact. and really for century example, today, the western block talks about upholding the rules based order what? but what the order is back. the fact is that those look at an order others make the routes for the world have been a trade or weapon ising energy weapon being served is certainly not uploading, enrolled space stronger? well, one can mention syria, f canister on iraq, livia and so on. but then what the view of prime minister moody is 2 wrongs make a right therefore don't vote with the u. s. at the security council. as i mentioned, it never, never fits an adjustment on any countries, aggression,

a case in the country has never condemned any military and nation well sorry and condemns package. it condensed by august on the use of terrorism as an instrument of state policy against india, against our guy miss was india, the rectum kind of use of terrorism. but certainly, india has demonstrated moral judgment on the military actions of any bar that's never been part of indian diplomacy. do you think the united states for saw what was going on as it pulled out of afghanistan after its longest war in his defeat in afghanistan? that, that's why it was boring weapons in the ukraine ahead of what putin says is a provoke provocation. and what nato, in the u. n says,

was his illegal invasion garnished tons of defeat in humiliation. united states was a watershed moment and that certainly but by doing the defensive and he tried to divert attention, he made some important strategic miscalculations just the way. wouldn't have made some sort of different calculations. first. which calculation on the part of binding was that he could use the thread of sanctions to deter russia from in reading ukraine? the problem is that the us true will use of sanctions, has blanket instrumental sanctions by repeatedly slapping sanctions on russia for the past 8 years or so. so the object of preventing russia from a meeting ukraine failed miserably. and that miscalculation was not to take.

walton's tread often an invasion, foolish me by giving him the security short instance, they demanded security concerns that the us and they don't want to turn ukraine into a front line launched by the russia, by, by deploying offensive weapons on new created inside almost 3 months or so put a truck to, to guarantee, but is wanting to ignored repeatedly. and there was also a bottomless confirmation. my view on the, on, on the part of putting in international relations. you can, by mounting a credible like regret, achieve an object without the need to actually execute the tract. where do you put in long term military against ukraine will compel the us to abandon its policy

of middle creek to russian borders. he woke up the world, the dangers of nato expansion ism commentators, even in the us began asking whether expanding to russia borders and thereby prompting russia to re militarize was an american interest. in fact, as you know, the military build up on nuclear waters kept the us on the ropes with bite and wanting for dance on in the nation was coming. it's sort of sustaining that threat . putting decided to execute that track, even though controlling the outcome of their warm once it is launch is literally impossible. so i think he could have achieved more, a sustaining. that's right. this is sort of actually launching the nation. obviously, moscow appears to believe that their course of action is the right ones and risking

all is the way forward in the united states thinks that the united states think that there must be, even if it's perhaps risks. nuclear war. the ability for ukraine to join nato. that's what the urban union also firmly believes. so, i mean, the point here is the rights of ukraine to be able to join nato at all costs. few believe you wouldn't believe that you crave, shouldn't be admitted to me. it's too intimately divided, highly corrupt. there's functional state in the eyes of many nato and there was a chance of, of ukraine being admitted to natal instead of is sort of a screeching, fresh air security concerns. and the most concerns could have been addressed to

what the war after on russia is not main lo, challenger, the main loan challenger is china, which is seeking to supplant the us as the global head on us as a us already said, sorry to interrupt them, but obviously, the largest on $850000.00 soldiers in the russian army, but european union nations, including germany, ascending in masses of weapons now into ukraine. do you think they think in washington of nato headquarters in brussels at b, a. u parliament in brussels and in strasburg, that ukraine can beat the red army as they pour in these weapons. if not, why would they pour in the weapons? the strategy is very clear now that they persuade that only containment to point all against russia. they're also trying to enter their

congress on to point all against russia, just the way they in sneered russian in many posts and congress done in a ministry quite minor in the 1980s by launching their biggest covert operation in history. now in addition to the high sanctions that have been post on russia, they are lieutenants, least seeking to and, and trap russia. it has similar liquid quagmire in ukraine by pouring huge with the sources by arming the resistance, the insurgency, they want to bleed russia. that's the strategy, or whether they succeed not returning the strategy when it can. in fact,

binding has asked congress for an additional $6400000000.00 for wide arms and other military id ukrainian forces, whether they are armed forces, the resistance forces in sentence that says, carrying amount of money that biden is willing to warranty, no grain. those are certainly the figures being thrown around hell in capitol hill when it comes to the budget then. so apart from all these countries in the global south using turning away from the dollar to get round the sanctions and so on. why do you think politicians in the russian duma wanted their boot in to support the recognition of danielle skin to hands and pushed putin, whoever's, he wanted it as well to act in this way. if you believe it, sir,

you appear to believe it's a catastrophic geopolitical mistake, let alone it's the legality. under international law. well, recognizing the 2 recovery of republics could have been seen as bato mounting, credible threat that could have posed the u. s. and needle. we concede what russia was asking back to actually launch an invasion or something completely different. that tragic and what i'll moment or to they could get worse without caution and prudence on both sides. but why with such a mistake? is this a strategy? but it's very clear for this what the military objectives oh, put in are in relation to ukraine. what do you think the chief, because,

as you can see from the lines of attacks that need 3 lines of attack that russia has mounted in ukraine, it starts seeking to occupy the entire country. what are the military objectives of food to come? they difficult to guess, he's certainly not keen to an extra whole of ukraine police in terms of the military operations so far. but my biggest concern is this. as a history of this city alone illustrates, foreign military invasions have decent lives sovereign states. and as there are serious libya and damage, such innovations have triggered, unending wireless and bloodshed and russia invasion and the u. s. plan to arm and ukraine's to believe pressure threatened to turn your credit into assyria on libya

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amid an unfolding, humanitarian catastrophe, and mar your bowl. and archie cru helps provide aid to residents in need and assistance in evacuations from the embattled city. they can take a look at some of the things that were bringing itself water chocolates for children. and of course i have a huge box of medicine. ukrainian children are reportedly caught on camera stopping cars to identify russian. white house has indefinitely postponed a special summit with leaders from across southeast asia, replacing it with a bilateral summit with singapore after that country openly condemned to russia. ah.