because it has never been in russia before. hush, i knew about russia. i knew of russia. i knew everything, of course, culture and everything. this. but i knew everything because of maria, because he was always from morning that he was getting love with the child that you would have the bottom of the child with the lives that play. he would see he was very superstitious of he would see how they were posed to see what it would be. he was just plain like a like a child with incredible enthusiasm that only children they do have. but i must say something then before i cannot say, but what i have discovered in this trip in ashby could have only been want to see of course out of me 1000. but only 2 days it is not enough. i saw it on my badge and that said, but now that i could have because of the opportunity to of this festival of murray, if they have invited me and with great pleasure in spite the difficult to send in

spite of fir of that is all that i'm the only one who came here, nobody there to travel income, but i don't feel fear. i am a little bit. i'm a little me told so extra to read them. not so much studies in. so what i have seen here, and i discovered here it was really the best, the nice this constant surprise at that ever head in all the countries in my life. you know, i have been lucky since of my birth. i had always really the cream of the best, and i was also doing my best efforts to to know the best that i could from myself as nori of as all artists are doing really the realities. but i must say that in every country when i go to the museum to the, to the governor's places. and of course i have the best treatment, honor lauser. every scene that for 2 days. and for that massage for the opening,

after certain interviews or with a name, all newspapers and everything. but even russia from the moment that they put my feet here until the last moment that they wouldn't go to day. and i feel sorry that would really go because i love the russia and what i have discovered here in the country i have been cover. it would not only with honor who is love with ceilings, with enthusiasm of people. and i discovered that really the values that always have been the key, strong, a powerful, think for all humanity, that kind of values here. they're still alive. unfortunately, and very sorry to say that in europe they are not so naturally of course they are always alive. may

a minority of people may not may the majority here i saw the majority of people, the top, the middle, the simple everywhere i had the same reaction of love, of enthusiasm. and, and this is something that i never, never had 24 hours a day. i mean now in every part of it has been in the beginning from moscow, going to for the governor. they are the 1st lady there in all the people who are incredible, incredible, beautiful area and thank you you the for larry and also so difficult. i discovered that you have more than 100 ethnic different ethnic populations. and he same article how you can have that kind of incredible result to me in peace, in love, all of them. one thing that i've noticed in my time here in russia is that there's the stereotype of the russian facade of been called and blocking everybody up. the truth is, from my experience,

russians have the biggest heart and the most welcoming ideas. one thing i want to ask about you because we are in the time of difficulty here in russia. and of course we have to address that are not in russia all over the world is changing, sounding must change for the best. i agree. so as an italian, was it difficult for you to get here? you mentioned that you're the only one who came. i mean there are flight restrictions for weighs is on the vehicle because they have done an incredible thing. it seems that everybody has to be against russia and that they don't understand. i'm not political out this. i love everything. so i don't want to be misunderstood. i am talking from my point of view being greek and absolutely having faith in my absolutely old and past generations. and i cannot forget socrates, i cannot forget that christie does the dad live in the justices. i don't forget

that he thought that was the, the, i don't forget the results of our philosophers to alexander the great, more recently. and i cannot forget of that. and i s greek, i go and search myself the result of the, of the reason of sampling that they see exterior, li, everybody seems to be against the you are by facing china. india said the narrow boundaries and i really don't understand that kind of for a firm of strange, strange this season. unique in the, in the human existence in this earth. and according to that, the values should not change. but they don't, they don't change the values that they change the people that they are able to do sound think or not to those sound. think to m, dawn,

do something good for the values or is keeping respect for them or to make people be mislead. did and don't to respect the values. this is very, very bad. very said. we must forget as often knocks because it is glass head to forget every body. so i can forgive my country and italy that they are the most responsible because they gave culture and art and, and every progress in humanity without getting one penny for over 4 writes of author. this is very important to say they gave every single is not payment because those values are priceless and money are all only a way to me to make beautiful things in to give a fresh air of immortality. to the result with money, money are important. don't misunderstand me,

but to not to do but as traffic things to do bill different things like the aristocrat they did in the pastor centuries. we have so many things to absolutely enjoy and for philanthropic things that they did, and we have buildings or have hospitals. we have or cathedrals. we have a civil places. we have art works that those out is the class, their head, those are the stick. those are artist says that they were at that period and they were close to them to make them feel better, to be better, to me market debate to themselves and the children on their cell. so money, we're using it for immortality. also. now money are using only only for bad the result and that i don't agree and being an artist, i'm above everything. i think that everybody at this point there to arrive,

but i have to the sadness to avoid take gorski. to avoid, don't stay ascii, but this is a wrong can think of a general situation in the whole word. but this is not the immortal. sink of the spirit of humans, because obvious above and will remain above and even the period of hitler. you did not a prohibited beethoven. jose had their sent me and the fact that i am shared with you today. i am brick and i adore my grease. i adore, and i love my retail good day for my greece, and 8, bring honor to my greece and to my family because of my family did a lot for mary's. and i'm very happy to have discovered here that the values that that are for them gotten all over the world here to respect them. you respect family, religion, and i mean a promises and humanity and will give love. and you give love and do respect art and culture. so i think that is the best moment to begin to have

hope all over. and i wish really myself that could be a place that they think that i am able to just the i am able because a body than a have it in greece in the supply, these islands in care. i want to be there as center and heart of the whole world to bring people together. we the love culture and out. i want to peek into your brain just a little bit as an artist, as a beautiful mind. um, unfortunately, all good things come to end, you're gonna have to leave russia. what is going to be your takeaways to tell your friends back home, culturally, politically, what are you going to tell people about russia and your experience here as well? had to tell you something, they can also tell it here, or that always has been respected. the value, priceless value of foreign culture. humanity has brought it the best to prove. it

wasn't a difficult period of russia on the 60s that it's not having like now eliza president, you have in all the situation. it was med, absolutely indifferent. and at that period, russia had proved with italy together that absolutely values are above everything, political situation at any kind of situation. and in italy and russia had any change or for this that they were going to italy any balance here with ballad, with theater, with personalities when it was incredible. and i have, i have taken all those documents, i have them with me on the telephone. unfortunately, i'm not would enough to show you, but you know, it's the story and so on the 6 is it wasn't that the, my article done to prove it, that the symbol of everything today, you prove the same thing on another way, but exactly the same thing and i must say that art absolutely is

not possible to be involved with other things has nothing to do with it. you cannot say to fish to go and walk with for a pat. say if you cannot a to humans to go in fly nori african fly because he's also royal eagle. who is your imagination? you can fly because the imagination gives you the possibility to dream, to dream, to think, and after, to do the effort to build something to day. another horrible thing. it is the absence of absolutely instruments to make, to make improvement of the imagination, they prohibited books. in the school, it is the worst thing that they could do to begin with. so young generations, they don't read, they have not knowledge of reading. and so what they need with this, they absolutely cut off any possibility of working with your brain with it,

with the brand. they don't work, they take food ready, and they don't go deeply. they don't search. they don't want to the scholar and the worst of all, they cannot dream. and if you're done dream, you can accomplish to nothing. would that mean be covered today without that was able to found mind. so have to bring met dreaming at schools with books. and thanks to you that you maintain the values. and also many people, i must say i cannot con van on europe a late fee, but it always, they think not. they think like me, they feel like they should feel the humans. and i hope this is the beginning of their hope for the future. ah

ah it seems, and we've already touched on this a little bit, that there is some sort of russo phobia developing in the european union in europe . you mentioned how that is disheartening for you one another as a fabi, hourly in europe in europe. it was, it was passed as messages if, if they did not the european mind they can do is something they're drunk. if they really do a deeper analysis, it is not possible. they did nothing as analysis,

nothing as research. they took results without seeing why. what were the reasons they brought to that the result? because this is natural, what can be done to counter this growing trend to kind of isolate russia and keep it separate from everybody else? i must say that myself, i am repeating your, i'm not political, i'm not economical. i'm not an am not a person involved in either interest except art and creation. and these he said to her, as i'm not so much human, i'm a little bit extra terrestrial. but they must say that my feeling is that there are i don't know, i'm not so so mean that it to say something better evolving in that military situation. i don't think that there is a one. this is

a protection because the history what there have been informed and known mathematically, i mean the cry now was russia. hey, you had the ration population there that it's millions and millions of persons. of course, today, the word was divided into forces. americans and russia. but the forces and the agreements were taken. diamond go and do you have to go to read and to find out what they were, how they were maintained, how they were full feel upset, and what was done? not so perfectly correct? objectively talking was so in that case, you will see that the really you cannot avoid from one country and not to have its proper language. i can say that as greek indignation,

no matter. then anybody who had 450 years, the mean nation of ottomans, there had prohibited church, prohibited the values. but he did scores that we could maintain all our integrity of culture because of the power of the incredible work of our church orthodox church is absolutely related with greek existence of freedom. you cannot separate to them because because of the church they were to with candles and live light in the coverage because now schools not like they want to do in a grammy. and now, because i have heard somebody that no one referred to europeans, because if the europeans, they would know that they would not think likely thing. now, they don't know that really was pro he with a degree exam with the, the russian language. and they did not know that there were kid persons because

they weren't doing that crime to talk with their own proper landed. this is craziness, nobody knows it. in europe, nobody referred to one time. i never saw something like that. i heard then i saw the document here really. so i must say that in these gays, and i hope that the tools will begin to come out from the small elite of people. did they begin to realize what did these the reality behind that? so they had to give, read them to the rations there. there is no way i want to ask about this surprised me that back in the day you had never actually come to russia and so you weren't able to compare and contrast um, but there is an established narrative about what russia is in the western western media because they don't know because they don't know, but also my, i did not know it. i thought in the beginning that america was heaven really. that

it was my own personal opinion because of course i went there. so young 1st moment was famous, alexander, your list. we discovered all the meagre artists of last century. i was the youngest one 1st day of my arrival in america in his gallery. it was doing, did you say became known on coast to coast? i had there's cluzee with pierre. of course, a younger this, i thought it was heaven and it was heaven, but really afterward to i don't know is they changed also there because through the decades people are changing and it and nothing is stable. everything is moving as the plan that a they say or to in greek. but i must say that really now i discovered another aspect of america and it not of americans. it's def, rent. oh, but the aspects of difference. also with ration rations. i discovered it here. the americans are nice people, a singer, really, if you,

they see that some of these talent and they are very happy to talk to by him if they can, and they can or to, to feel happy because of his talent and his success in europe. it is not so i must say that them european i know also like that is but ethan, somebody salad that they try to. absolutely to patch his head. so is different. the possibility, the, the, the big territory that they have is full of incredible sources. of course, europe is smaller and everything but europeans invested there had it. there's their mind. is there potentially the and the incredible power of man of man of mind and out to use it not to use read the informations that they dont like the ready made information because i make my own decisions. after i see the facts

and i never have enough if they will tell me these or that no matter which, but i don't belong in one part, they belong to myself and i am the heart of act. so i'm above all those little human things. it always exists that the moon, the med, as the beautiful and the avenue, they all toys east. but myself, i use only the positive energy to choose the matter, not to the less good. why do i have the same energy i would spend exactly if they haven't even more on the, the lesser. yeah, absolutely. so they don't know russia is they would have the possibility to come and meet rations. they will change like i need here. i change mind. i heard no problem, gander from no one because a traveler all that. and i have been well with every body. and i am lucky because inevitably they treat me like a queen. art has that right already always. so if they come here and they see all

your people because he had a meat that he thought the me, the love to the simple they had the same. and susie, as me say, love to leave the same love for the same humanity. certainly they must come and see you, and i believe that all those estates are that they have done. they must have an end because my self, i'm also, i'm not put up because that little logical, the best market for all europe. and the whole lays. it was russia, the russians. they were adorned by on europeans, in tourism, in fashion, in everything in cars, every who at all the big factories had an incredible prosperity because of russia. now doing this. yes, they do little little problem to russia, but not real problem. maria probably will have them with the factories that after a year or 2 there have to close them because they don't have to bring for on the

moon. people to the place that that kind of flip incredible potential market is their head with irrational mining. you mentioned something earlier and you're an artist, and this is clearly evident, and it's a beautiful thing to see. but london's royal opera house is canceled performances by russia's prestige. they fail to cry for that. what, what do you think about the sanctions and the council culture, if you will, of all things russia, not a lot of those 3 ascii and tall straight. i will tell you that will turn to kill them. you can, can never get out. and that this because after not do, they can die for the values. the other people, number of people they do with that grooming malady because this is a green ality really. and i know my words, what they mean. i love greece, i love everybody. i love even every government in greece,

even if i don't agree with them. i love them because greece and greeks are to me my heart, but they don't agree. absolutely. if they that art art is, i bought pantry above person, miles about will vermont. they don't have the right to do that. and they did sunday, they never should have the right to do it. and i will not have enough force to say it, because i hope that they will listen to me. also, the category of people that they have always been able to make improvement and, and progress. the progress has always been by a small minority of people, not by the biggest, the biggest. they have the right to leave well, to, to be respected. the give them the possibilities, but the top, the clean of the wanted that really like soccer. this said the most important because they hadn't medicating their breath, their soul, their heart,

and their capacities to do some good will be use will also for the rest, those wonder they exist in europe, and i am sure that they think like me. so i hope this is a beginning because when detach the real bottom in touch, it is said horrible way as they did took that to that are to prohibit, i mean those to magical artist it's, it's not possible that really i forgive them or find of your christianity, but i don't forgive them to do that seem to are because they will not accept to have nothing except to do to ruin themselves. and you see, those are a little pat, but the biggest you can see in the, in the, in worse and, but this has a particular history because this is the only left from rudy's hand,

because his collection i told you before, unfortunately, does not exist, exist i mean in the whole word last because you have to concentrate things to remain. otherwise they are lost. and this is the reason they gave also an orthodox cape means in the museum because i have beautiful icons there. and i thought that it would be lost all in the family. and they did really an incredible presentation in means. they gave me also water. they are very, very nice. i did a very me the division in, in the national museum. and now all of these collection of my creativity and also part of the key the course are there in means. and they are ready on, on nadine costumes because it was faster. the moment of temporary for me shut down the museum. so in means can model of and everything. and so they are ready there to go back to europe,

but they stop to them because they are there. they are 2 steps to come here. so you will have the possibility to see me and i will have the pleasure to see russia again very quickly. and this one rooney was wearing the the home because after said that he was relaxing with his off his shoes and everything with that with an afghani a robe that he has. and i have also a couple of robes about gunston that through the was wearing. and i can give you one perfect for your museum and must i have to talk. i had to think about it, but it's something that comes to me now in my mind. because i've seen the collection that you have in your museums it's, it's absolutely amazing. i'm sure it would be amazing that there would be that they would welcome and then i, this thing that represents the song and also the good i against the evil i. that

this is the deep since don't 2500 b c. i bought it from se and rode the love needs because he was with dishes and it is the good i and he was playing hello math. putting good the tutor, vance, in his head. that i had also from i've gotten some trouble. clara from glad. i'm glad i see russia. yeah, yeah, definitely. and i had to think about it, they can do something out. and this is what they have to show to you with my love to all russia. everybody because really you are a wonderful country, but with wonderful people, the only see it is a little bit difficult for me that them san you on the sand that even in winter will have sometimes 20 to 23 degrees and i was seeming all winter, all winter time. here i see ice and white with the white is beautiful. i have to

hold somebody because i'm afraid to say but it isn't beautiful. russia really is incredible for the humanity. and for the values that you keep so much a life family interest and but really lisa, so tell us a beautiful mind, wonderful conversation. greek and italian art has factual been with us here at our international pursuit. and i thank you really for all the wants that you are absolutely giving to me and you hold me so tight. ah ah ah ah ah ah,

with ah good government. i'd say we should impose punitive measures in such a way that only the other side is hurt and out there. now people to do so, so to speak, do not have to make any sacrifices. only the other side has to make to sacrifice. and we have to push the other side into short them that action through a kind of collective punishment, because that is what the sanctions on this large scale. and in that sanctions a few more and out against human rights.

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