successful, very difficult time to sit down and talk with what happened didn't would you would have, you know, so it rushes ambassador to the un say's moscow with that the shed lights on the deaths of civilians in the ukrainian town of butcher slums. the disturbing footage from there a fake that says the un security council is scheduled to meet later at this hour to discuss the events in boucher on the conflict overall. also here on the program from a former officer in the ukrainian security services explains a potential motivation of those behind what he calls a stage publication in butcher. the task here had several goals meant to target

various audiences take, for example, the population of ukraine controlled by key of the goal here is to trigger hatred towards the russian army so that people do not even think about some kind of brotherly relationship with a spanish journalist claims most of the reports of crimes by ukrainian forces against don bos residents are true after heading to the region himself to investigate. the also voice is concerned over why such incidents are going on, reported by many western media. terrible news that i can now share is that most of the information coming out is true and in the west. there is no desire to investigate and report on what is really happening in maryville and don bass with life moscow to the world. this is our t, my named you know,

neil. then you're welcome to the program. today's main developments in brief, 1st, this hour, the un security council will meet to discuss the ukraine conflict them. the disturbing videos that have been emerging from the ton of butcher will cross their live to hear the main speeches in new york. meanwhile, the european union has announced a new wave of sanctions against russia, including an import ban on coal referring to it's an important revenue source for russia. the you will to issue a full transaction ban on for key russian banks. president putin meanwhile believes that you wants to shift its own mistakes and economics and energy on to russia and solve its internal problems. of mosque was expense on a stage provocation by key f. that's the assessment from the russian ambassador to the union. following the shocking footage that come out of the ukranian town of butcher,

showing images of dead civilians lying in the streets and others piled in moss grapes. his statement came as the un security council is scheduled to meet later this hour to discuss the events in butcher, along with the wider conflict in ukraine, ukraine's defense ministry earlier claim. the alleged killings are being perpetrated by russian troops. brushes you an invoice for selling the venture, whoever sees russia will very soon shed more light and what actually happened there from the very beginning, it has been clear that this is nothing else, but yet another stage pro occasion came the discrediting. and dick humanizing of the russian military and leveling political pressure of pressure on russia. and i think that the truth said what happened in which it will reveal itself. it is, well, let's indeed take a closer look at what is known so far about the future killings. a warning in the find the images were about to show disturbing. at the footage from which it was images of circulated through the various media outlets. as journalists gained

access to the area, shortly after ukrainian forces entered the tone following the russian withdrawal, the apparently show the charred bodies of a family, including children. the images have not been independently verified, but key of his accusing russian soldiers of being responsible. the tons, mirth made no mention of any bodies in the streets and a video and i spent released following the russian army. thanks it for shortly after that, the ukrainian national police released this video of soldiers combing through butcher. after their take over some rec vehicles appeared to be the only signs of fighting in the city. no dead bodies can be seen in the streets. interviews conducted by ukrainian forces in different parts of butcher, also seem to have no mention of the mass killing of hundreds of civilians by russian troops. well, in addition, on march 25th, the ukrainian interior ministries advisor are posted the following video. people

say that their homes were shelled immediately after russian forces had delivered military need to them. here stop footage. good. yes. the russians were there with an inspection to see where civilians are. they saw the children asked if he were hungry if we had met sin and so on. as a result, stay later brought 2 of their kits and literally an hour later our house was shelled. after that, of course, we realized that we needed to leave the muscle. we interviewed a former officer of the ukrainian security services about the butcher killings. he feels the story being told by care of as a provocation, which raises more questions than that doesn't yours. when used to go work, the story is riddled with inconsistencies, the russian forces withdrew on march the 30th, but the ukrainians released these images only on april. the 3rd this already said something the longer they would have dragged it out, the more questions they would have raised. i think those who staged this

provocation tried so hard. they made a series of serious mistakes. why didn't they remove the white bandages from their arms, like pretty much all of those who they showed on video had white arm bands. those in the city war, those white bounds while russian forces were present to show their status as civilians. the task here had several goals meant to target various audiences. take, for example, the population of ukraine controlled by care of the goal here is to trigger hatred towards the russian army so that people do not even think about some kind of brotherly relationship. another target audience is the population of western countries. and one more target audience is the leadership of western countries in the west. and the task is to create a public opinion that will be unambiguously flavor toward key of and against russia . asked for the leadership over the goal is different. they need a reason to gain maximum support for the cranium authorities. the earlier i spoke

to academic, an independent journalist, jason michael. he said there's an urgent need for an investigation analysis of the events. well, the main question for me as would be a question all chronology the timeline. all the events is certainly something that would cause any independent analyst at home confound that, the russian forces is acknowledged people quite okay. we have to interrupt that for the moment because rushes envoy to the united nations is now addressing a un security council meeting on ukraine. let's listen. you refused our 1st request . we considered that it was you considered that it was possible to blatantly or violate the rules of the council and him to the 2nd time issued a decision that wasn't coordinated with any one that it would be better to discuss

this topic today. this is an outrageous situation now, i said at, in my letter to you yesterday as an official document of the council, i would like to ask you on what basis i will do you feel that you can act in such an outrageous way, in contravention of all existing norms and rules, don't you know that, that in case you don't agree with our proposal, you should have convened a meeting and put forward the issue of the advise ability of holding a meeting of our vote was on, especially since you should have had before you example of our presidency where we didn't refuse a single time to convince available any of the 6 meanings on ukraine. so we demand an explanation from you and we hope that in the future you will not challenge the the right of members of the security council to request a meeting and shrine in room 2. 0,

of the security council or the request of any member of the st. louis. i thank you . i thank the right representative of the russian federation. is there anyone else who wants to comment on this? i will explain the presence, his position in just a moment. if i could um, respond to your points out from the russian federation. we did not reject your request for meeting. we received your letter on sunday and it is the responsibility with the obligation of the presidency to schedule a meeting. you particularly requested a meeting for a time on monday. our proposal as presidency, was to schedule the meeting, either alongside the meeting today so well within the 48 hour limit,

which is the convention of the security council or to hold the meetings sequentially one after the other. and i understand that the russian federation turned down both proposals, but i wish to be clear that we did not reject the request for a meeting. the deferral proposed was less than 24 hours. and to be clear, we share the view that this is an urgent situation. and we have, as i say, offered the russian federation either a separate meeting today or to combine it with this one. and so as far as the presidency is concerned, we did everything in line with the provisional rules of procedure and with precedent, we have received no other complaints from council members on the subject. i give the floor to the russian federation. louis your book. thank you. not used

because i just the, we have evidence what you see, the good stuff actually will evidence pneumonia. jim's or was there. so this was no less than 24 hours before the meeting that we requested shows a picture a little because this is confirmed and documented in documents. if anyone is interested, we can provide proof, but i want to express the hope that what you said to day means that you will not in the future refuse members states of the security council to hold the meetings when they request for thank you. i thank the representative of the russian federation, the presidency will not refuse to host meetings in the future. ah, and i hope that that now close is that point and we can proceed with the adoption of the agenda. the provisional agenda for this meeting is letter dated the 28th in february 2014,

from the permanent representative of ukraine to the united nations addressed to the president of the security council. s slash 2014 slash 136. the agenda is adopted. i should like to start by taking the opportunity to pay tribute on behalf of this council to her excellency lawn, in the se, but the permanent representative of the united arab emirates for your service as the president of the council for the month of march. i'm sure i speak for all of us in expressing our deep appreciation to boston saber and her team for the skilful conduct of the councils business last month. thank you very much indeed to your team. ok, so we were just watching their little bit of a to and fro from rushes and buster to the end of a silly

a bench. the president of the security counsellor, the u. k. member at russia saying that it was outrageous that they had sought a meeting at the security council and it was rejected at dot said was what the president was and did not help in saying that it wasn't given enough time. we will cross back to that. so when we hear a little bit more about the, the situation itself, what's happening in ukraine and particular instant in the procedure? the problem. okay, for now let's move on to more news on the program. new disturbing footage apparently showing captured russian soldiers executed by ukrainian troops, has emerged on line. we obviously can't shoot the video in full because of it's extremely graphic content. several men in uniform or seen lying on the road and pools of blood with their hands tied behind their backs. one of them apparently still alive as suddenly shot and the head several times at close range the killers

or heard shunting. pro ukrainian slogans. russian officials say the gruesome incident is under investigation separately. we heard from some russian soldiers who say they were tortured while in ukrainian captivity the the video posted and they make me constantly without even asking questions. who was just non stop screaming. my lack of food, people were being beaten, they didn't even scream, they howled. it just doesn't sound human. i've heard a man's ribs break, his alms break. a civilian was watching, brushing news on his phone. he was taken there. a 71 year old man with diabetes. he was lying there, his hands bandaged. they were women there also was who knew some of them as a new can they tied hands and feet and were beaten them? i had a beard and their attitude to was chechens is bad. they were kicking us in the face on the had on the ribs threatened to hang and castrate us. they filmed us during the meetings ashworth notion of bust. they'll extend key. they put us against the

wall and many ukrainian soldiers were deciding what to do with us. some one offered to shoot at the legs, some one just to kill. we were kept in the gym, it was very cold. they constantly mocked the pilot's beat. them forced them not to sleep. they were saying the pilot could return to russia only as disabled people shall issue. this will you give parents in a shopping going as we were lying in the gym blindfolded and heard how they beat one soldier all night. and in the morning they said, do you even know that he sat next to a corpse? i think he was being the sticks to which are some western observers who say they're being shown a one sided picture of the conflict by their media at home. while they decided to go to don boss, to find out what's actually happening, their spanish blogger on political, unless reuben, his birth is one of them. he says, western country supporting cave with weapons could be complicit in what he calls a genocide. as part of my analysis of the situation in international politics,

especially on the internet and social networks, there have been reports coming in for 2 or 3 weeks. that there have been civilian deaths, especially in the city of mario pal, at the hands of military units connected to the government of president zalinski b. it's the, as of the italian or members of their regular ukrainian army. since this media content is not available for axis in spain, along with many other media sources related to the russian state, i decided to try to get as close as possible to the scene of these events. i was even able to go there myself to check to the best of my ability, what kind of information i am getting at home in spain. the terrible news that i can now share, which i have done sold the other day, for example, to a spanish tv channel with a big audience. and also in an interview to horizontal a, is that most of the information coming out is true and in the west, there is no desire to investigate and report on what is really happening in maryville and don bass in this is clearly a political agenda, which i am now exposing, i do not support the russian state, nor mister zalinski,

nor any political organizations yet, but what i'm simply trying to lay out here is all the information regarding the conflict and ukraine regarding the civil war in john bass. since 2014, the most important part of this all is that my own country, spain and the west, are supplying weapons to the government of ukraine. we need to look at what is being done with these weapons. because if they are being used to kill civilians, as i think they are, than this is genocide, and therefore my country will be complicit in genocide. i am not sure we can say this is really happening right now with absolute certainty what, what i am asking for what i am demanding here. and wherever else i'm given a chance to speak is an international monitoring mission to find out what's really going on. but especially in cities where there are more journalists risking their lives, such as patrick lancaster was been revealing such atrocities on

a daily basis. the worsening situations running global energy is a result of the politics of some western countries seeking to solve their problems at russia's expense. that's what a lot of our putin has to la meeting or his ministers to do. it says this when the situation in the energy sector is deteriorating, as a result of non market harsh measures, including administrative pressure on our company, gas problem. in some european countries, we're witnessing another attempt by our partners to shift their own mistakes in the field of economics and energy on to russia and to solve the issues and problems arising in this regard. again, at our expense a she with a lot the european commission present. ursula under lion has said the e you is working on further sanctions against the kremlin, including a bond on buying russian co on, on russian ships entering e u port. she jumped in a little early there. it's always good to say ortiz, your correspond charlotte davinsky at keeping us abreast of all the development.

charlotte, hello to you. so there we have more sanctions coming, rushes i'm, it's citizens, way we should point out, take us through what's being targeted this time around. yes, that's why the e lead has been meeting to discuss and thrash out, which essentially would be a 5th round of sanctions against russia. we've heard from the commission president to look on the line at basically outlining what she said of the 6 pillars of areas that are being proposed. as you mentioned, that it includes an import band on coal from russia, and that will be with around $4000000000.00 euros a year to quite a big hit that also foot transactional benz on a central russian banks, including the countries 2nd largest. and she said that would hate almost a quarter of the market banking sank in russia alone. 23 percent. and she also talked about for the listings of individuals who could be targeted by the sanctions

directly. and also said that you lead is, was still considering a ban outright on oil imports from russia to now gland. elaine said that the sanctions when needed to cut the russian economy deeper in light to those events that have been emerging in gotcha, these atrocities cannot and will not be left unanswered. the perpetrators of these hideous, cramped crimes must not go unpunished. the european union has set up a joined investigation team with ukraine. its task is to collect evidence and investigate war crimes and crimes against humanity in ukraine. russia is waging a cruel and ruthless war, not only against your cranes brave troops, but also against its civilian population. it is important to sustain at most

pressure on porting and the russian government at this crucial point. now these measures haven't yet been approved, but they are due to be approved later on tuesday. that's according to the commission itself. however, it's clay, there has been division within the use own ranks over the last few days. as ministers have been meeting to try and think of what the next steps could be against russia, we know that russia natural gas is something that certain states such as the baltic states and poland want to see on the table. but that doesn't to pay to be up for grabs just yet. when your countries like germany have resisted these sorts of calls because they're so heavily reliant on russian natural gas import said german minister saying such a ban. do more harm than good and could bring about mass poverty and unemployment in germany if that was brought about. and it's also been suggested that hungary

leader who is boyd off the back of his re election over the weekend. this is victor open, has also been resistive to some of the sanctions against russia to of course, all of this comes is the, has been grappling particularly over the last few days with this unseasonal cold snap here in northern europe at to deal with not just the high rising costs of energy, but also increasing costs of food. all of this part of the blow back from those sanctions that the e. u has been imposing on russia. charlie, thanks very much for taking us through all vox r t z. your corresponding charlotte davinsky. ah, no, the pentagon said it cannot independently verified a notorious footage from the ukrainian time of butcher that quote, we have said even before that the russians were going to be brittle. as we mentioned earlier, moscow has called the accusations of atrocities in butcher

a stage provocation. ortiz worlds apart hosts stock, santa boy, to join me earlier. here in this today to discuss her heart rendering imagery that was being used to manipulate public opinion. there is a whole genre, cold atrocity propaganda and emerged. well, well, i would say that even, you know, a couple of centuries ago. but with the emergence of broadcast television, it's been very popular. and i think one of the most memorable examples, maybe our viewers, remember that the so called nariah testimony, the testimony of a 15 year old simple girl from kuwait who was with tears in her eyes telling stories about how iraqi soldiers were you know, pulling babies from incubator is in the hospital in the way to hospital stealing those incubators and letting those poor babies die on the floor. and that story was picked up by numerous american immediate was repeated by the american president

george bush, senior at the time. i think he referred to at least 10 times. it was supposedly independently corroborated by amnesty international, which conducted supposedly independent research into that all to be proven for a later time as well. some 17 percent. i was just reading of the american public before the testimony. we're in supports all boxed and against the rock, q 8 that rose to 60 percent following the test. it was very, very instrumental in swaying the public opinion precisely because it was heating at the you know, the most vulnerable point. you know, the, the butchery, the, the murderous aggression against the most vulnerable. what, you know, who is more, more vulnerable than babies in the incubator? and at the end of the day, it turned out that it wasn't a simple girl from coy. she was actually a daughter of the equator bastard. well let's, let's listen knocked down a to, to that actual testimony we can played for years now. i volunteer,

volunteered at the hospital with 12 other women who want to help as well. i was young. the frontier, other women were from 20 to 30 years old. was there? i saw the rocky soldiers coming to the hospital again. they took the baby of incubators. thank you, bears and look the children to die on the call for. when you look at the, you know, your, your hard eggs, but it was a stablish to 2 years later, they said that she was actually a daughter of the kuwaiti ambassador to the united states who lobbied very hard for the american troops to go into his country. it was the pretext for the gulf war. it was later established that a couple of babies actually died and kuwaiti hospitals, but not because of the iraqi soldiers will never see that as the food there. but because of the kuwaiti doctors and nurses who deserted the premises,

but all was forgotten later on, but come on in every conflict since then we had a similar story bid in yugoslavia in syria, in libya and some hard breaking story that served the precise purpose to provoke western intervention and i specifically remember because i was back down on the ground and libya and, and guys it out story of gadhafi viagra being distributed among good off his soldiers. and that story had, you know, it went all the way to the international criminal court. they had of that war that, that time, i think his name was lose. murano. com pull went public, saying that they have the evidence that they have the testimony of the american officials, including us advices, and rise was very public and very certain that even did happen. whole hit to find out after good af, after you know, the united nations authorized the no fly zone over libya, and after get off, he was brutal murder them. his country was turned into one huge slave market. it

appears it immersed rather than it was wolf, even though that story was run by multiple out let from bbc to al jazeera. it was all false and it doesn't matter doesn't because the purpose is done. so even if they come out later and say an apology, what is not the care in the case of that girl? 50000 iraqis died following. absolutely. and one thing i was listening to your program, to your conversation with the guest earlier, and you ask a question, how come that those formerly sober thinking journalists were buying it so easily and it's actually a very valid question. even the pentagon is not buying it. and the pentagon is not citing with the story, but all the international outlet, those formerly or supposedly sober thinking general is our own running away that the story of boucher re a butcher. and, you know, you need to understand the ukrainian sort of p, our mentality to understand that such, coincidence is not coincidental. you know,

buttery and butcher. i think there were a couple of bride p r minds. we decided that, you know, this is a great headline for the westerners to swallow and you know, inter term that calculation, i think, proved accurate just in terms of the reaction from the information that's being sent from ukraine. because that's what it is. because people in the west can't make up their own independent minds and what's happening is the point of view being but taking on here you've got the president going on a drive to virtually every major country in the world going on prime time television, going to congress going to parliament and getting an uncontested questioning about what he's actually, what is happening. so in is that the p r drive that's going to continue? it's not the way this war is going to progress. well, at the end of the day,

this is all he can do. i mean, he's trying to mitigate and fight this war the best he can. so i'm, you know, the president lying that's not an issue for me. i think that has been happening with politicians for you know, times and memorial since times what my point is, he's not being challenged. he's not being challenged. that's precisely in the bell . tentative points of views are also not allowed. our channel is taking off, has been taken off the air of all social media, but one thing i wanna mentioned here is that a couple of years ago, nader explicitly publicly passed the doctrine of the so called cognitive warfare, which pretty, in previous st terms, laid out what they see as an alternative to kinetic warfare, that is manipulation of public opinion, trying to sort of shape the views, the public views and the country to the favor of that political position. and this

is exactly what they're doing. and you know, they've been investing in that for quite some time the ukrainians got a lot of help and support that expertise from the west and ultimately their banking on the fact that perception is reality. you know, this famous phrase that the americans like to repeat, then i think the russians or the russian leadership at least, is banking on the opposite premise. that reality, sooner or later, will reassert itself. and it will, i mean that this, i've been through that multiple times and i can promise you, this story is going to fall apart within the next couple of months if not weeks worlds apart. host, excellent. a boy who's speaking to me earlier. now at documentary 8 years in the making and we still don't know the ending my done route to war starts and movements the close. ah.