a with russia foreign minister, this method, the killings in the ukrainian city of butcher as a publication named derailing most goes keith told with what is the reason for this now to write provocation, we tend to think that the reason lies in the desire to find an excuse to disrupt the ongoing negotiation with around a 130000 pavilion to remain trapped in the city of mario. but russia and ukraine have opened humanitarian corridors to evacuate local teams on the ground with this income families being the united. a

and is the west coast adjust this on the trial alleged to russian war crimes. we examined why the us itself has historically not been subject to some international norms. oh, came in right body ah a warm welcome. this is alta international with the latest headlines. good to have you with us. now, the killings in the ukrainian city of butcher and international reaction is an attempt to derail moscow's peace talks with care. thus, according to russia's foreign minister, a disturbing footage of dead civilians lying in this de city streets was released by ukraine over the weekend as well as circulating in the media. k. f has blamed russia for the incident and allegation moscow has strongly denied. but the new

proposal, disclaimer, she was up of the western and ukrainian propaganda has exclusively been inflating hysteria around the video, which as we understand it was filmed by the ukranian military in the city of butcher, in the key of reading the frank orchestration. and to see, to learn about alleged to war crimes from the russian military has been proven. many times. this beckons the question, are you and what is the reasons for this outright provocations? we tend to think that the reason lies in the desire to find an excuse to disrupt the ongoing negotiations. just a class lies her correspondence in washington. now rachel, blevins. rachel, get to see. could you explain this up to speed with the latest face? yes. as foreign ministry allowed rob noted there, the claim surrounding the city of boucher have really become the main focus for the u. s. and it's western allies. but during tuesdays un security council meeting, it was actually china's ambassador to the u. n. who specifically called for talks

between russia and ukraine to continue. and he also noted the dangers at being too quick to rush to judgment. giovanni and all acquisition, strictly based on facts, before conclusions are drawn the parties true to exercise restraint and avoid unfounded acquisitions. now meanwhile, ukrainian president zalinski used his time before the un security council to make it clear that he is not waiting for any kind of independent investigation. and instead he is calling for russia to be put on trial immediately. well named malala senior living it, they killed whole families, adults and children on the choice burn that bought easy how to stop it, immediately bring them russian military. and those are gave some orders to justice for all crimes and ukraine. everyone who gave criminal odors and fulfilled them by killing people. thanks. a tribunal is similar to the nuremberg trials. none of the culprits was correct. no one. the still yes,

no one will escape justice and that includes ukrainian civilians. now that's according to a top ukrainian official who said that if those civilians are accused of cooperating with the russian military, they could be targeted mass. there were collaborators who gave away the location of our soldiers. those scoundrels who leaked information about the heads of government bodies, volunteers, participants of the anti terrorist operation, traders among local residents because of whom both civilians and members of the military died. to bring these persons to justice, please share their details. but law, ukrainian officials say they plan to target civilians. it was russia's ambassador to the u. n. who spoke out during the meeting and noted that russia has specifically tried to limit civilian casualties and has moved forward with the same demands that it has had since day one. noting that that is

a very different approach in the world typically sees from the u. s. and it's western allies we police lose to look at these 2 burgers done. the middle news, we came to ukraine to bring the long awaited peace to the bleeding. dumbass, not a truce, but a real lasting piece. and for that is necessary to root out cruelty to cast out the malignant neo nazi juma that's consuming ukraine and would eventually begin to consume russia. and we will achieve this goal hopefully, sooner rather than later. that can be no other way out. we do not hit civilian objects in order to save as many civilian people as possible. that's why we're not moving as fast as many expected. we're not acting like america or is allies acted in iraq and syria, wiping out entire cities used. they didn't feel sorry for them, but we feel sorry for them because they are people close to us. however, despite the fact that an independent investigation has yet to be conducted, both the u. s. and e, you have said that they will move forward with pursuing new sanctions against

russia in retaliation for the allegations from ukraine. united states and coordination with ukraine and many other un member states will seek russia's suspension from the un human rights council. russia is using it. never. i read so many thanks for that i typed our thought is rachel blevins talking to his life from washington. that english let's get to i guess. now international affairs analysts now boise at mileage. thank you for joining us on the program to boise as good to see our president lensky, a kids rush of crimes against civilians, and called for justice at the same time, one care of official edge for so called civilian traitors, collaborating with russia to be brought to justice and they can't reach and what are your thoughts on these statements? was just amazing. did the levels of projection and entitlement involved here. obviously the 1st rule of propaganda is always accuse the other side of what you yourself are doing. and so as he is masterfully delivering these lines,

i'm not sure who's coming up with them, but he's mass masterfully delivering them. and this whole thing is, i mean, i could be personally biased because i'm a survivor of the bosnian war. began on this day 30 years ago, but it's basically looks to me like the bosnian war playbook in which key is basically going down the list of lines that were written in that particular crisis . and. ready looking for the same kind of international intervention to win the war for them. and when you have this kind of saturation bombing campaign on part of the western media machine, it acts kind of like air cover does in, in kinetic battlefields. you can basically do whatever you want with impunity because anything that ukrainian officials say no matter how landis will be accepted at face value. and so they can literally call for programs like this advisor. did

you, these, this guy type of vigilante justice usually ends up with local, settling their own private scores and a lot of innocence getting hurt due process. what is that? there is no due process. and you can just basically accused of anybody being a sabbath to or, and commit unspeakable repression under disguise, of fighting traitors. and yet the fact that they're so brazen about it and so open about it justifies to the kind of media coverage that they have on part of the western propaganda machinery. either you wish for me to say, i love, ralph commented on the events in boucher saying is a provocation named disrupting negotiations between kiev and moscow. do you think there's any truth in those allegations? i think it's much worse. i think it's well provocation. as would translate in western discipline, speak to false flights. i think this kind of accusation is not just intended to derail current negotiations, but to make any sort of talks impossible going forward. because again,

to apply the bosnian war analogy, the party is serv. leaders were designated as war criminals by the west before any sort of negotiate investigation had taken place. just so they could be completely sideline from p stocks. and later on these western diplomats quite out admitted that's what they did and why both of us knew you're trying to calling to expel russia from the un security council. do you see that happening? if they, well, i've security council would basically be a un breaker. if, if a founding member, again, there's you with lobby, a president because you savvy was under the founding members of wedge. and it was simply declared non existent and expelled out of the un during the ninety's. when russia was under the yeltsin government that was doing whatever the west told it to but tried to expel a security council member that's basically unheard of. and if that happens, that would be, that would be the end of the un as we know it, perhaps in perpetuity. let me land skills, i should be un meeting that shocking,

but i'm verified, such as reporting called crimes by russian troops. do you think a full, improper invest independent investigation is needed before blame is so quickly assigned, especially when it's based on verify videos? well, normally yes, obviously, and i think so too. but the way propaganda works is that you never go through the investigation. you basically throw the video out there, get the emotional impact going and get the people to boil up an outrage and then push an agenda. and by the time, any sort of facts are established, the agenda is already been implemented and whether, whatever the outcome of the investigation they'll just move on to the next emotionally charged thing. that's how this works. us is also a case the russian army of committing war crimes calling for justice and to try and get the us itself has not been subject to international norms or legal body. so why does washington corporate justice when itself doesn't recognize it?

the, i see, see what's, what's, what's, it's, what would they do rather than what they say the united states literally has the law, the books that allows them to invade the hague, if any american citizens are brought up on charges before d i. c c. even though the u. s. was one of the architects of the quarter. originally it's refused to recognize your addiction. it's basically one of those we are above the law. international law is only something that you know, other people can get trial under. and obviously this is the kind of rules based order to be envision in which day would be above the rules. so it's pure sanctimony, nothing but the voice mail it in can actually fast unless many thanks for your time . i appreciate it. thank you. now the us envoy to the us on tuesday holds to the suspension of russia from the human rights council, saying moscow use it as a platform for propaganda. this meeting left a day to age and coordination with ukraine, and many other un member states will seek russia's suspension from the un human

rights council. russia is using its membership on the human rights council as a platform for propaganda to suggest russia has a legitimate concern for human rights. they do not belong on the human rights council. as well as the united states accuses russia of war crimes, washington itself as how difficult relations with accusations of war crimes during its military campaigns, ortiz maria phenomena takes up the story. the us says there should be an investigation that may sound exactly like what moscow has been repeatedly asking for. but it's not the pro but mary case talking about is not into what happened or who did what and when in the quinn, in town of butcher. but into russia is actions there. although the disturbing video is emerged, days after russian troops left the town. and even days after it was reclaimed by

caves, forces it seems beside the responsible has already been found. next us national security advisor jake sullivan says materials for the court will be collected from intelligence services. organizations like un eye witness accounts from ukrainians on the ground and interviews from global independent media. while so far, only certain american bridge and ukrainian journalists have been allowed to enter boucher and finally the case according to sullivan should be handled at the international criminal court and behave whose authority the united states of america, ironically does not even recognize. we have to understand that the united states did not make itself a party to that criminal court and does not allow its citizens to be tried in it. so there is a bit of you might say hypocrisy to say others should be tried, but ours shouldn't. when things happen and things do happen, and i see here reports from november 14th, 2016, contains data on

u. s. army war crimes in afghanistan, members of us armed forces appear to have subjected at least 61 detained persons to torture, cruel treatment outrages upon personal dignity on the territory of afghanistan between the 1st of may, 2003 and the 31st of december 2014, the majority of the abuses are alleged to have occurred in 2003, 2004. but the u. s. made it clear they were not interested incorporating we, the hague. we do not believe that an i c. c, examination or investigation with respect to the actions of us personnel in relation to the situation in afghanistan is warranted or appropriate. what is appropriate is the use of military force to free united states, military personnel, and other elected and appointed officials of the american government. in case they are detained by d i. c. c. this is what the 2002 hague invasion act is all about. the

states that have ratified this treaty or trying to strengthen the rule of law, the bush administration, is trying to punish them for that. and that's not all they seem to be reading to threaten the hague directly. if the court comes after us, israel or other u. s. allies, we will not sit quietly. we will let the, i see, see, die on its own. after all, for all intents and purposes, the icpc is already dead from ward. the laws to action have 2020 on a president, trump the us imposed sanctions on some icpc officials and certain unnamed individuals involved in the ccs efforts to investigate us. personnel cancelling their american visas and blocking their accounts. we hold our own accountable better than the i. c. c has done for the worst perpetrators of mass criminal atrocities. the court itself has no means to put any pressure on the u. s. in the ann best simply gave up. after reviewing matters carefully,

i have reached the conclusion that at this time there is no longer the prospect of genuine and effective domestic investigations within afghanistan. the united states is now appealing to the i see as an authority, an arbitrator in international disputes with washington itself seems to have done more than anyone else to actually this credit the have the russian ministry of defense has announced his intention to finish clearing the embattled city of mario paul alongside don. yes, republic forces. fighting when the hours of battalion refused to be evacuation fi humanitarian, cardoza's, ukrainian army troops laid down their weapons to ukrainian helicopter the power. they tried to evacuate the battalions commanding offices, but was shot down according to russian officials. fossils and mario on going with the cities mess illogical, long the last area controls are ukranian forces. she went to harry and corridor to

mary, pulled her allegedly being targeted in shelling by nationalists forces. despite the dangerous, they remain open with humanitarian aid, also delivered inside the city with good and essential goods being distributed to different areas of correspondent, among cars. rivers on the ground with the latest wood just delivers to many general aid and medicine to couple of addresses. here at mario val and as always, people pleading with us to take him to safe areas. nikolai is one of those people and we are taking her with us. didn't ask me if you tell us what happened to you. first we were hiding in the vestibule, near the elevators. my son who lives in the nest, told me mother, you better not go to the basement. my flag was burned down. that's why i moved to another entrance where lived together with a 90 year old human. every time there was shooting was so flames, but we got here

a little bit. you will meet your son and daughter in law to day. what do you feel with? i don't know how to describe it. i don't know what i will tell them. right now. i'm calling for a says daughter in law, alexander ross with him as a mom. of course it's been a lot out of the they did just a year ago. he is money opened a human yet still, but he's right alive as nightmare a

very go. another area hartfield says story about the 30 to 40 minutes they will reunite with that we will go back to variable morrow and then they say they're tried to reunite somebody else. of course, there are hundreds of people out there who have no contact with their loved ones. ukrainian civilians are being displaced, not only within the country but also fleeing. but also fleet as refugees that to the west with poland remaining one of the main hubs excepting these people. one of them gave an interview to a spanish tv channel revealing the details of what was done to him by his country's army, a promise, or government in military has abused us during interrogation. they treated us like

dogs. i was confronted by people threatening me with imprisonment and beatings, and they said they would take me to the back yard to beat me, eat me while russia and the west are trading accusations about the butcher killings as his mom. darcy of reports, a warning you might find these images disturbing. what happened and butcher seems to entirely depend on what different sides want to have happened and butcher. what actually happened seems to be of little concern. ukraine than that salads accused russia, russia and its allies, ukraine. day by day, the news about poorer stories is becoming more and more delusional. however, the key of fake machine won't stop nothing for the dehumanization of russia and its maximum denigration that have gone mad beasts and terror defense is ready to kill its own civilians. at the end of march, russian forces quickly pulled out of the area. on the 31st, the mayor of butcher,

in a video announced that the town had been re captured by ukrainian troops. he did mention any corpses, which, according to keith's version, already lifted the streets flu, he threw his dear friends dear buchan community march 30. first. we'll go down in the history. our town. as the day of its liberation from russian forces, ukrainian troops entered the town. soon after grizzly images flooded, social media alleged and disputed satellites. images which west and media claim to have been shot more than a week before. suddenly showed bodies everywhere. some near impact craters, butcher had been on the ceaseless ukrainian military shelling, even after russian forces had left. the united states to liberally glossed over the father after the withdrawal of russian troops, the armed force of ukraine shell to preach a city. many of the corpses, little round butcher,

also wore white arm bands controversial in the and of itself. ukraine claims that russian forces shot dead civilians who co operated with russia, who apparently showed support. some of the victims had their hands tied again with white cloth, ukrainian. nationalists themselves had commented on the hated arm band saying that they justified shooting at any one wearing them. these arm bands are used by the invaders themselves as an identification sign during fighting. therefore, ukrainian defenders may confuse civilians with russian invaders factor in that russian military rations were also scattered around many of the bodies indicating that they had been given them by russian troops. just before and this is what kia claims they shot them dead mentioning is ukraine's collaboration law enacted recently. and the ukranian civilian who is deemed to have call pirated with russian

troops and presumably worn a white arm band faces 15 years in jail. that is, if they survive arrest by ukrainian troops under these nonsensical circumstances. what hoop does the un school for a fair investigation have? it is vital that all efforts made to ensure that our independent and effective investigations into what happened in future to win. so truth justice and accountability as well as reparations and remedy for victims on the families. fair words in unfair times, given the voice and the unprecedented level of propaganda and vis information in the media. many have already made up their minds. the pictures from butcher testified to the incredible brutality of the russian leadership in dulls who follow its propaganda, facts, truths, evidence, and culpability. a things of a now dead, the era, and this new a age, emotion, and interest established guilt and atrocities. sadly,

have become sickening spectacles where the judges ye or she who shouts loudest. more at gaz, the of haughty from the nets. i mean law, they statement by the us ambassador to the then soviet union is a departure from the current us governance. we do not know for sure what exactly happened with these apparent atrocities and certainly we don't know that they were ordered for moscow. the thing is, practically speaking, i believe that the ukrainians need to make a deal. they do need to find some way to let russia keep crimea where the majority of people are russian, and where russia has a naval base to think that the world would benefit from making russia a nuclear power equivalent to the united states, a pariah. i think does not really represent our interests in the future care of plans to seize $400000000000.00 of russian assets. according to a russian news agencies citing presidents,

landscape advisor. he is quoted in saying funds should be obtained as a reparation from the aggressor. the movies already got the backing of the polish prime minister, is comes amid a flurry of sanctions from the west since the stars of the war and ukraine. the us passed legislation in february that would allow the government to seize and sell frozen russian assets. according to the white house, the money should be used as an aid for ukrainian refugees and rebuilding the country. meanwhile, in canada, independent, the senator rat, not only var, also put forward a draw proposing also have the same powers. she said that it's may name is to give sanctions teeth, showing any aggressive they will permanently lose money. russian foreign minister says that the freezing russian assets is a robbery. the us is well versed in these masses in 1979, a cut at the can, nor making diplomatic ties with iran. freezing its asses. in 2016, some of the assets that were not returned were turned over to family member of

people killed in alleged ukrainian terrorism. moreover, a total of $7000000000.00 was seized from venezuela and that's going on. however, sanctions, as a means of leverage don't have universal backing. china criticize the us approach to afghanistan with the foreign minister, st. just last week. washington and nato should assume their responsibility for the reconstruction and development of i've gone on and return all their property paging base, political and economic affairs commentator on a tongue and say, the crane doesn't have jurisdiction to seize assets from other countries. ukraine neither has the process nor the jurisdiction to seize assets from other countries. but this, this is something that is not in the ukraine. it's also the united states. you and canada have all introduced legislation that would allow them to do exactly the same . it certainly hypes up people from the other side. you know,

there's the sense that ukraine will have to be rebuilt. no one wants to repeat, she pay for it. and therefore, the ideas sees russian assets and use. there's many people, especially in the global south, stands southeast asia. they look at this and say, this is a tractor double standard us black with impunity. but when it chooses to identify an animated world, our magically use what they call on our product means, which means without due process to do as they wish. thanks for choosing asi international will be back in the top of the hour with the latest. ah, ah ah

ah, i mean, it all was signed. on february, the 122015, it was meant to end military conflicts in ukraine between government forces and don, best militia groups. the agreement stipulated that both sides would withdraw heavy

weapons to an equal distance from the contact line. this left several 100 settlements trapped between opposing forces. local civilians became unwitting witnesses to and victims off the continuing civil war. thousands of people still live in small towns and villages that have become the new front line. they call this area the grey zone a with

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