[000:00:00;00] ah ah i've muttered multiple to system have just for our correspondent reports from our you paul, as the battle for the city enters its final phase, ukrainian president compares russian troops, islamic state terrorists. now, despite reports revealing ukraine itself has for years used isis competence in

conflict. thousands of europeans protest against the blocks of weaponry shipments. ukraine, as nato unveiled funds to speed up the arming of the country. ah, from moscow to the world, this is our international. i'm peter scott and wherever you join us from, welcome to the program. we start off with a round up of some of the pressing stories as we welcome thursday morning here in moscow. with china, taiwan relations on a knife edge, the u. s. has pledged $95000000.00 in arms, 40 pe, he comes as the u. s. navies chief claims the war in ukraine has made the window for a chinese attack on taiwan highly unpredictable. meanwhile, poland prime minister slammed french president manuel micron for talking directly

with body. ma putin saying he achieved nothing. microns office hits by saying that communication was necessary in order for moscow to hear the west's concerns. elsewhere, at least 2 indian refiners are expected to possibly replace saudi oil with russian oil to raise the price to new highs. over to ukraine in the siege of murray will pull appears to be answering its final phase with ukrainian nationalists forces holdup in a steel ponds in the city. ortiz, rod goes the reports from the area with most of mary, you polls urban areas liberated that these apartment blocks and suburbs. housing fighting here has changed civilians out of the way. artillery has let loose with abandon this year, holly house, good. mary opened a battery of self propelled how to the far in the way of ukrainian military

positions or masses. positions inside the as of iron and steel works block, which is where thousands of nationalists are making their loss. stab as off militants have lost their capacity for counter battery fire. these russian and allied forces no longer have to maneuver off to each volume, which gives them an advantage. accuracy. and i bought them puzzled. we are launching strikes on the as of steel factory on the nationalist bizarre battalion. we use pinpoint strikes, we don't put local residents or infrastructure in danger, because these are our homes in our families. while artillery shakes the ground, the very air vibrates from a very different sort of weapon. behind my back, ah, that's good. what's it multiple?

well, it was the system of just thought it's ukrainian nationalist positions again, when the industrial zones have maribelle, they go just one salvo in this goes on day and night. russian grad, emerald systems have been unleashed at areas where civilians are no longer present . or josh, chill, jia must still be careful. the vast industrial complex lays at the heart of the city misses are intolerable from the on of the battle. ukrainian nationalists forbids any sort of civilian evacuation. even shot at civilians trying to flee to the disgust of russian and allied forces. were mirror with our new to the we tried to evacuate people out of the city, but they've been forced to stay by the local militants who would do such a thing. who would use people as human shield on the fascists? perhaps there is a crisis here. people have no electricity, no food,

no water while we see it in or it's just not right. every soldiers duty is to save people to protect them. at the end of the day, artillery is a tool with limited use. i is not an option. russian forces have come to liberated, not destroy it. which means this battle will be settled the hard way, with a bitter contest between infantry and very nearly face to face. more at gazda of r, t for mario bull, ukrainian president's vote him is the lensky said that russian troops, no difference from isis. that's this by numerous reports, including from western media claim, and ukraine itself didn't shy away from his ult into help from islamic states. ortiz maria financial reports. kemp has compare and russia with terrorists from the so called a lumnick state. speaking at the un security council, earlier this week,

president zalinski said russia is no different from the notorious terror group. in digital molig, the cutoff limbs cut the throats when raped and killed in front of the children. the tongues were pulled out only because the crest did not hear what you wanted to hear from them. how is it different from what these lemming states harris are doing? the occupied territories? not similar, but worse, according to ukraine's foreign minister. what we've seen in recent weeks is that russia is much worse than isis when it comes to its atrocities and massacres. serious accusations are made before any independent investigation or any solid evidence of russia's actions apart from delayed, disturbing, the dears from the ground that moscow insists a fake warning. they'll be more to come for what the zone and little monster, according to confirmed information on the evening of april, 4th, in the town of mushroom 23 kilometers northwest of kiev little service. men of the 72nd ukrainian main center for psychological operations conducted another stage

killing of civilians allegedly caused by the violent actions of the russian armed forces for subsequent distribution through western media. similar events have now been organized by the ukrainian special services in sumi connote up and other cities. speaking about i says, cave seems to know they subject rather well. ukraine is law known as a safe haven for his logic stage. he had his back in 2015. the new york times reported their president in easton ukraine. they were fighting on key of side. we like to fight the russians, said the chechen who refused to give his real name. we always fight the russians. the war for us never ended. we never ran from our war with russia, and we never will, according to different estimates their number could amount to hundreds, including ukrainians who joined isis in syria or iraq. and also foreign jihadists fighter is seeking a place to hide that same year. a hateful is mateo saline tried to ring base you to

the european parliament to date the ukrainian authorities have made no attempt to deny the reports and have neither disowned these fundamental as tice as combatants, nor sought to remove them from territory. ukraine has been claiming as its own, given the serious danger posed by isis in islamic terrorism in general. does the vice president hi representative, not consider it appropriate to rethink or stance regarding the conflict between ukraine and russia and engage in closer dialogue with russia? with a view to containing this fundamentalist threat give didn't seem to be bother. it is law mich. terrorism is not typical for our country, that is why the ukrainian special services do not focus on it. they act only on the basis of the fact. if another state asks to extradite a person or when information about the militant falls into their hands. so when in 20191 of his learning states, key figures, namely it's deputy minister, a war known as, as she, shiny of georgia,

was detained in kiev after leaving happily in ukraine for years. it came as a bitter surprise that the arrest of one of his la mc state's top commanders here in kiev right under our noses would surely suggest many of the world's most dangerous men. do think of ukraine as a safe house. corruption in all state bodies. the police courts, prosecutors opens doors to abuse. it seems the i says key refers to when describing russia has something ukraine is already more than familiar with itself. we'll area we spoke with scott with the former us marine co intelligence officer who shared his thoughts on that issue. i think the ukraine knows its history with isis very well. they're just denying it because they understand the, the predicament that it will place them in the eyes of the west, you know, most european nations, the united states view. isis is the mortal enemy. and it's,

it's difficult to square ukraine's cosy relationship with isis. but, you know, ukraine hasn't tried to hide this very well. there's a former presidential adviser to us and skew is given you know, a interviews where he talks about of the, the isis use of terror, of murdering civilians in terrible fashion. to make a point to, to control a population using the vehicle of terror. and he says this in a, in a very, you know, approving manner. and this is important because it's not just talked about the link between ukraine and isis, but to level to which ukraine has adopted isis practices as a mechanism of population control. and when you consider that in light of what we seen in the book of i and other places, it becomes clear that this kind of terrorism that's being inflicted on the cranium

population by its own government. it is the isis playbook, and ukraine has openly endorsed that isis playbook. after a un security council meeting held to discuss the u. s. funded bio labs and ukraine . versions, ministry of defense shed more lights on how those labs in the country allegedly operate on their parents in fights. ortiz, cannon, moping us more on the story. the meeting was held at the un headquarters in new. ready york in the eco sock chamber, and at the meeting we heard from the russian ministry of defense describing a lot of information. they have about these bio labs in ukraine, how they operate, and how they have impacted the local population of the country. this is some of what we heard from the russian ministry of the ministry of foreign affairs

of china. the pentagon controls 336 labs in 30 stage outside of the national modern i fi has been over united ways of defense, are located throughout the territories bordering in russia. and now there were some allies of the united states that did what they usually do in response to any talk of these bio labs and simply dismissed the entire thing as a vast russian fabrication here some allies of the united states. yet again, we are witnessing the russian federations misuse of the united nation, and it's privileged position within it. as platform for this information. we regret that russia is once again using the united nations as a platform for this information. now the united states and the united kingdom made a point of not attending the media. and we heard russian officials express somewhat

disappointments about the fact that seems like there is a big effort to selectively look over the information that russia is presented to just desperately tried to argue that these labs, that somehow they don't exist or somehow these labs don't pose any threat to public health when the information presented by the russian ministry of defense speaks for itself, but there are many countries around the world that share russia concerned, and these bio labs don't only in ukraine. they're in many other countries and potential health or it's risk associated with them. the fact that military kind of activities could be associated with these labs is something that many people around the world are concerned about. while us officials seem to argue, it's not important. an accused, anyone who brings it up of being a crazy conspiracy theorist. the european commission has moved to activate mechanism that could isolate budapest from you funding. this comes right off the prime minister to all buns, recent reelection, and was followed by hungry making the decision to pay for russian gas in rubles,

as well as voicing concerns about potential blow back from unseen russian sanctions . that will cause it wouldn't be a problem for us to pay in variables if the russians want to be paid in roubles, we will pay them in variables. so yeah, i think the most important contributing factor of the european economic crisis is the sets of sanctions that we have imposed on russia. we have to pay the price for that as well. and we have to prepare to actually pay the price of this and to manage the european economic prices with m. p. 's cold on the commission to sanction hungry over concerns about the rule of law and democracy. the mechanism which follows several years of tension between budapest and brussels could potentially result in suspended voting rights for hungry people in the country. we spoke to felt that it's been punished for non compliance with you as a symbol rights against what he wants and well we don't represent the use values

and we don't comply the way they would like us to. and we don't do what they say. i'm them of them, of the sanctions against hungary are not democratic. we are a small nation and we are vulnerable to others delivered or they punish us because it annoys them that we don't do as they say, letting them look at this. obviously if there had been a new government, they would have negotiated but the way it is now, i don't know. it feels like justice has been served with the good if the european union would handle it quite differently. if there had been a new government, as things are now, there won't be any changes and we're just getting closer to russia. and over to the czech republic, now we're a number of pro ukrainian protest is blocked, a road in prod. ah, europe's longest urban funnel has been blocked by pro ukrainian demonstrators, local media,

se the protesters one the government to sets heating levels to the minimal legal levels in order to reduce impulse of russian energy. please eventually arrive to break up crashes between the protesters on motorists. nato secretary general yen stultz and burke is outlined plans for the further arming of ukraine, including heavy weaponry which some view as a controversial escalation decision. excuse me. i also expect up ministers run the meter today and tomorrow we'll discuss how we can further support ukraine. ours are providing both for onto tanka onto air or air defense systems, but also different kinds of advanced her weapon systems on also both light on the heavier weapon systems to ukraine. let's go live now to our europe correspondence charlotte to bend ski charlotte's. so the question of whether to increase weapon supplies to ukraine is far from straightforward,

is appears for many europeans. what's been the reaction? yes, that's why we know the elite is our meeting again on thursday to discuss a 5th round of punishing sanctions against russia. need to lead is mean mobile also be meeting to decide what kind of increased military aid they can be sending to ukraine. but those decisions to punish russia whether that's economically or by aiding ukraine with military might already causing consequences for europeans, wednesdays, with demonstrations across many european capitals with individuals coming out to let a government know that they're unhappy about this and the concerns they have, they could end up paying the price. i was on start in bulgaria where we saw hundreds of protest is in the capital of sophia that came as the government there has been mulling over the last few days, whether it was to also send military aid to ukraine. now just to give you a sense of recent poll,

suggested 70 percent of individuals in the country are against this type of move. they want to be more neutral when it comes to the conflict and some pro russian parties. i say that by sending military aid bulgaria will be directly involved in that conflict, and that has caused anger. concern alone stays for testers, rather than gotcha. so we will not allow to bring war to bulgaria. europe. i came here because i'm bulgarian and i insist bulgaria to be neutral, but i always did, and i always will. and we must not deliver weapons nor directly or indirectly by poland, romania or other country. and it's not just in bulgaria that those anti war protests were taking place. also in turin, in italy, demonstrate is gathered outside an event where the prime minister murderer druggie

was there to sign a what's now called the new pact, foot 2. or you could see the aerospace industry and becoming dominant industry in that area. but the protest is a concern that what this will actually mean is that to and will become essentially a factory for making military material full nato. another cruise could also be used in a war drug is here to finish off italian society. what remains of it. he is the latest of our butcher is already leading as towards war. the other big issue that is hating people across europe is price rises. we saw in athens, greece around 10000 individuals taking to the streets to really say that they are angry about some of the ramifications that have been seen as a result of the more in ukraine. and of course, those are sanctions that the e u has been placing on russia. the bloom backs from those,

as some progress is saying, the siding is on its knees with these high energy prices, with the fact that the cost of food is going up. and as a result, there was a massive public services strike in the capital as well. now all of this course comes as you lead is a meeting again on thursday to try and do the i's and cross the t's on a round of sanctions. it will be the 5th round of sanctions against a russia described is in the punishing ground which will cut deep into the russian economy. there is concern that you leaders are struggling to find an agreement, particularly when it comes to an outright ban on russian an impulse of co will. it seems that there is been a bit of a technical point there which they're hoping to get through on thursday, but it does seem that oil, which was also muted as

a possible at sanction of will item has been taken off the table to ukraine's president zalinski didn't mince his would, over that hesitation by e leaders, embargo, the embargo on russian oil supplies will be applied anyway with the format will be found from the only question is how many more ukrainian men and women, the russian military will have time to kill. so that you, some politicians and we know you can get a little determination from somewhere. sure. when we are expecting that fresh around the sanctions to be given the green light. however, it looks in the end on thursday, but is really clear now that it is becoming harder and harder for all $27.00 and the states to muster. that unanimous support for the measures that absolutely needed. that comes as the blow back from previous sanctions are now hitting europe and bringing biting costs to their own economies. losses shala davinsky reports in

life from paris. thank you for giving us the latest on how those anti bush and sanctions are being felt back in your thank you to get more inside now into how grief has been impacted by the crisis. now it could develop less cross alive now thoroughly. and i dis kristen thoughtful as former greek diplomats, the united welcome to arts international. thank you for joining us. now. what do you think she's going to say, like for the people in greece after the russian energy bond? i mean, europeans have already been experience in record prices for energy. well, it would be, it would be very bad for the greek people. it is already bad. we saw the pictures of the national strike that took place yesterday in greece against the rising cost, particularly in the, in the energy where the cost have risen by 200 to

250 percent. the electricity bills that the greeks are getting are almost not payable with the, with the money that is, that is available to the people. so actually i think that the european union is actually sitting there our, our, our leg. and we're going to pay for these sanctions more than most homeless. and that is something that these people don't. that's the you does not realize. instead of coming up with proposals to start negotiations for peace between nato and russia, they continue imposing measures and measures and measures that will never end until there is a total global water in your own

cost. nobody's working to find peace. that's what i have to say about the situation increased and they, and it's going to get worse. we will want to see more and more demonstrations against the government. and also i would like to add here that there is a majority of the people that against sending arms to you. great. and this is something that should be taken into consideration mainly made by the greek government who took this decision without asking any. but what do you think these protest in greece and indeed in other countries in europe will force politicians may be to take into account the needs of the ordinary person when they are mulling the sanctions or imposing these sanctions on russia? i hope so,

but the way that you leaders have reacted up today doesn't give me much hope. they give the impression that they're not interested in the average person. and we saw that greece was destroyed when the miranda's were both of the country that left many people in dire poverty. were you worried that we could receive the repeats of the dia, crisis of 2009, the grease experienced? if these functions do continue? yes, of course i am concerned about that. not only myself, but very many other people, many, many other greek citizens are concerned about this. again, is the issue is that there are no proposals or piece coming out. i was, i was very happy to see that or by and said that he would schedule

a meeting between been zelinski and, and charles and the french president in budapest, president put in replied that he was favorable to that under certain preconditions and his 1st movement towards that well, there is some positive, something positive will come out of that. i guess we'll just have to wait and see the united chris on thoughtless form agreed diplomat. forgot to leave it there. i'm afraid, but thank you very much for your insight today. thank you. some nato countries would rather see ukraine focus on fighting rather than sign a piece agreements in the near future. that's according to a report in the washington post. the piece claims, not all countries in the alliance bike ongoing piece talks between moscow and kev. brian burly take a former us marine and geopolitical analyst says,

washington will have key of fights until the last ukranian, the united states, who really put ukraine up to this over the last 8 years. they put them on a, a deliberate collision course with russia. and i think that they fully intend to have ukraine fight until until the last ukrainian, until everything has been spent. every drop of blood that can be spelled is spelled and i think they make that abundantly clear their support by shipping weapons and money, and facilitating the war effort in every possible way. i think they're trying to harm ukrainians and russia, the whole nature of the united states relationship with ukraine since the u. s. a top over through the elected ukrainian government in 2014 has been one of self interest in washington. they most certainly do not want the t p, they want, they want russia to pay a price for standing up against us encroachment and dado,

encroachment, and bytes. and now you pull now where after weeks of fis bottles more humanitarian aid is now reaching. those civilians who chose to stay in the new destroyed city. with amusing art seems help to get to russia whether be met by waiting family members, ortiz, roman costs, or reports not been getting hundreds of messages from people around the world who are looking for their loved ones here in variable trying to find out their fate. there's no communication, as you can see the, the city is a devastated. i will try to find as many people as possible. aah! woman from st. petersburg contacted me through social media. she's looking for her mom and her and they live in this building. this building is in fact, so i have hold the very alive and doing how well

a so julia from st. petersburg wrote to me asking that i help evacuate her mother. i, rena, sacramento. and irene as a rubinez, is that you? yes, that's us. are you ready for evacuation? yes, i know he's next week. i don't even know how many blankets we have here. i sleep in a sleeping bag here. spike will get will one that we are using our bathroom is afraid because it's the coldest place in france. water supply has become a problem. port irene is kidneys are causing her agony and i'm suffering from dizziness. it's hard to juggle of

a convenient digital. ah the man in the city of for ra stove in russia is looking for his mother. he contacted, he contacted me some time ago, and just now i was able to reach this address actually, i'm good there, right now. i have a map right here. we are only 2 minutes away and hopefully she's still there. and if she's ready to leave with me, go take her to the roster off and reunite her with her son. mum. hi, thank you for getting in touch. we're doing fine. i assure you that you can trust these people and i'll come as soon as i can to pick you up