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one of its authors, all of them all coming up and today's going underground. but 1st, today, the international court of justice is holding initial hearings in a case brought by ukrainians. rush rover accusations of genocide. ukraine is looking to establish that russian claims that its neighbor has committed acts of genocide in the hands can don't yeske a false, and that therefore russia cannot legally claim to be intervening to prevent or punish ukraine. this is, you can't be embarrassed. johnson accuses russia of committing war crimes. joining me now from miami, florida is madame benjamin, the co founder of grassroots, anti war and geo code pink. thank you so much for coming back on. you know, you been campaigning against nature wars for decades. of do you think vladimir putin is actually now united the world behind nature nature, the organization that you've been so critical of for years? absolutely. we were looking forward to the june meeting in nato that is happening in madrid, organizing around it, saying, you know,

this is the time to really take the air out of nato to show that after afghanistan and the fiasco there. nieto is really an aggressive military alliance. that is looking towards china now and saying that china is a threat and really is, is looking for a purpose. and thanks to booting now, nato has its purpose. it's more united than ever. we were criticizing action so much how the u. s. was pushing the nato countries to fulfill the goal of spending 2 percent of their gross domestic product on military. and so many of our friends in the nato countries were fighting that and saying, no, we need that money at home. and suddenly that's all vanished into thin air. and those nato countries have a now announced huge increase in military spending. so this is a huge tragedy for the people of your crane and for the entire world. anybody who

thought we might get a peace dividend after afghanistan has now been all of our hopes. dashed, thanks to put in the aggression on ukraine. why though, do you believe it's impossible for the media in nature? countries not to realize that this war is actually been going on for 8 years. the media has no historical memory and really is always in the west, ready to criticize those that they see is the enemy. and let's also face it. i mean, we have in the u. s. anti war movement been pushing the media to cover the war in yemen, the disastrous war that's been going on for 7 years. in fact, we had a protest outside the headquarters in washington, dc of cnn and saying,

what about the m and more we want to see that coverage? we want to hear about it. we want to understand, well, why the u. s. continues to supply weapons to saudi arabia that are killing children every day in yemen. so the media has not been very objective about covering wars, but i am glad that they are covering this war and ukraine. people have to see how horrific war is. and maybe they'll understand that all war is horrible. well, joe biden has previously expressed disquiet about the weapon sales by the united states. obviously, not so much disquiet here in britain for its role in the yemen. warren, cnn probably say, well, that's a nato ally area your of this is why news from ukraine. let's take precedence over a wall where the u. n says 377000 been killed in recent years in yemen. unfortunately,

the u. s. government and the bible ministration says that it's going to stop, hold off fence, a weapon sales to the saudis. but what does that mean? it doesn't mean anything. the u. s. is still involved in the war in yemen. and i want to mention afghanistan, because i'm just heartbroken that after 20 years of nato militarism in afghanistan with horrific exit, the african and people's money has been stolen by mostly the united states. $7000000000.00. and that's one of the poorest countries in the world. and so we are working hard to get that money back to the afghan people. and we're also very concerned about the sanctions on russia hurting ordinary people because we've seen that's what sanctions around the world do. they affect the entire economy and who is it who is impacted the most? it is working people. we seem for 60 years. how the u. s. has imposed horrific sanctions on cuba. it hasn't changed the cuban government,

but it's close such hardship for the cuban people. yeah, but the united states, as it's fighting terrorism, obviously in yemen, you don't have to be a major general or a person in power in nature. countries to say, all of russia must be punish, it's sad, but they just have to be punished as regards them. well, perhaps even food, you know, when it comes to the invasion. well, that's just wrong. i mean, ordinary people have no say over their government, look at the thousands of very brave people who are coming out on the streets in russia to protest there will governments war and say not in our name, and those people should not be hurt by it. so sanctions are a kind of economic warfare, and unfortunately they don't hurt the people in power. i think it's fine to go after the oligarchs in russia. take your yacht, take your mansions, please do. but don't impose sanctions that are going to make people have

a difficult time putting food on their plates or getting medicines. yeah, i think you've campaign before against russian oligarchs, before the current sudden decision by everyone to realize the money was stolen from the russian people. what do you think of the arguments though, as you, as you talk about peace made in russian, russian think tank circles and people who pro kremlin saying, but, you know, russia did sort of piece and the going to carry back between now media as a by john in georgia, in syria, after all the u. s. interventions, this is just merely trying to critique your piece in ukraine after the killing of 14000 people in the eastern provinces is a piece operation. oh, come on when you see hundreds of thousands of people living. when you see that kind of destruction that's going on, this is not a piece of variation. this is an offensive illegal invasion

of another sovereign country. it is absolutely wrong. and i think all peace activist, those of us who stand up against the invasion of iraq against the invasion of afghanistan, those of us who stand up against the u. s. supplying of weapons to dictatorships, like egypt or the israeli apartheid regime. we have to be consistent and we have to be against this invasion as well. i call on all peace activists or people who are just a peace loving people throughout the world to get around the streets and to join in demonstrations. and in our actions, we say withdraw the russian troops, we say see fire. now we also say no nato expansion because we think that's absolutely essential when it comes to the negotiating table. and there are ongoing negotiations and there have to be more what is going to be compromised between the 2 sides. on the u. s. nato side, there has to be a compromise that says we will not allow ukraine to be part of nato. i wish that

there were people now like in the, by the ministration saying that i wish they would be saying we've got to get serious about nuclear weapons and the world that should be terrified right now. that russia's nuclear weapons are on high alert. but it should also be a moment where we say, why haven't we forced the world and the world's leaders who have nuclear weapons to comply with their obligations there now is a nuclear band treaty at the united nations. and this should be a moment where we say we demand as a community of people who do not want to see our globe annihilated by nuclear weapons. that there be a serious end to nuclear weapons by all the nuclear states were indeed russia was saying that the ripping up of some of those nuclear goods is part of the reason for the invasion, which as you say, and as the un secretary general says,

is inexcusable, or was he israel? would you mentioned that denies isn't about i'd state despite whatever and yos like yourselves around this international say actually come to think of it. what did you think of israel voting with the u. s. at the un general assembly, the u. s. i don't know when the last time the u. s. has paid attention to the un general assembly, but what did you think of israel voting with the us about how this occupation should be deplored? well, of course they always vote with the us, but there certainly is also a moment to talk about the invasion and occupation of other people's lands. we have to look at the israel is actions for decades now in palestine. and it's interesting that so many in the social media putting out videos that show the tremendous repression and, and beating, and explosions and the west bank and comparing it to what the russians are doing. we think this is a time where all aggression should be exposed. and i only hope

that as we work towards demanding negotiations in a settlement, in the case of ukraine, that we also look at ongoing words in other places and demand the same thing an end to war. why do you think that boy called davis when sanctions move and failed when it comes to the illegal occupation in palestine mandated under you in alicia? and yet, as we know from the cultural sector, which is being manned across europe and in nato countries, from russia, it seems to work almost instantly in a football match is no longer is it considered wrong to put the ukraine flag on the pitch. whereas once it was wrong to put the palestinian flag on a football pitch to express. so yes, we are find it very hypocritical that there has been so many attacks on the b b. s . movement in the western countries saying that it is not fair to attack the entire

country of israel that that is anti semitic. and then suddenly it's ok to attack people who want to compete in the special olympics as if those people had something to do with pollutants. invasion, so there's a lot of hypocrisy on all sides, but let me be clear, i think that it is a positive thing that the world community is coming together and saying stop this invasion looking at ways that we can through non violence. i look at the way that the russian people came and stopped the tanks from a getting into the largest nuclear plant in europe, that's in ukraine. and that was quite inspirational. and i think it would be wonderful if people in neighboring countries rose up non violently and went to the borders around russia. and i demanded an end to the fighting. just as people are

reaching out to all of those refugees who so deserve our support. and speaking of refugees, so you all refugees deserve our is for support. whether they are coming from country where people have white, skin and blonde here, or they're coming from countries in africa or their country coming from countries on the southern border here in the united states. where they have been ripped apart from their willis and at times put in cages, we should welcome all refugees who are fleeing from violence. yeah. as regards the tanks by the nuclear facility, i think we were ethnic russians in ukraine. but as far as we hear from authorities in the use of the said, but these are refugees. the, the ones of different colors are migrants. yes. as a horrible separation to make. and i think the world has seen the terrible racism of, from the people of color in ukraine that have had such a hard time leaving the country of. but i think it also does show the hypocrisy of

making it so difficult for people of color who tried to flee, even in the case of afghanistan, where you would think that the u. s. and all the nato countries would feel a tremendous obligation to take people from afghanistan in the immediate aftermath of the withdrawal. and they said they were going to, but then they've gone back on their promises and it's become very difficult for afghans who worked with the nato forces to even leave the country. but they have benjamin. thank you. the bleakest warning? yes. on climate change that is close to irreversible, we talk to and i v c. c author about the latest reported to how humanity may and even if there isn't nuclear war, awesome. all can we have about to have going underground? ah,

what we've got to do is identify the threats that we have. it's crazy confrontation, let it be an arms race is on offense. very dramatic development. only personally, i'm going to resist. i don't see how that strategy will be successful, very critical time time to sit down and talk united states with tax on other countries. we have a responsibility for the home and we need to make rules for the rest because without us there with. mm hm. welcome back to the industry leaders and government officials are meeting with

the start of the annual 5 day serra week energy conference with you as climate envoy, john kerry, and ceo's of exxon mobil and chevron. should you want to speak this days after the release of the new i, b. c. c report? it examines how humanity is entering on georgia territory in the climate crisis. joining me now from cape town to discuss that report is one of its alters. looks on vogue. go, thanks so much luck on for coming on. you know what we see here in your people are talking about babs, no immediate deliverable future on this continent. i know you specialize in africa, but that how rapidly closing is the window to secure a livable future as it says in the late as i p. c. c. assessment. i think to just give a big grant on the key findings for a recent report, this cumulative scientific evidence and he's an equal for call and coming changes, a threat to humanity and a human being. and so we have very limited and the rapidly

closing window and how rapidly lose it to zoom into that. i would say the tend to it is now. so i can give you like the exact time, but we the time for the global it is now. now or never goes, this is an area where they have said they did not. they have said that before. i mean share prices of booming and weapons companies. there's all the talk of world war 3. is it difficult for the i p c. c, and it's authors to get his information out there in the media at this time. i think our 1st ment, tim apiece is here. we are only for informative and valid, no, not policy, prescriptive. so our hope is that a, the government will take the message to their people,

the government will check the actual at all levels. so we hope that team are saw in every day planning decision making, that governments are going to consider these, this key findings for my pc. so the report says, no region inhabited by humans will be unaffected. up to 3600000000 people on our vulnerable. i mean, climate change this year will kill wound or displace people. i mean anger, anderson of the you in environmental program saying it's already upon us raining down, blows on billions of people. yeah, that's, that's true and say one thing to one key important thing to notice in the distribution of the impact is an event. so it all depends on how regions are moving, pete, to adapt. but i can, i can give the exact numbers of the people that are going to be displayed,

but what the climate change is doing is increasing the possibilities of these migrations of these movements, oil that are for the or that her directly from, from the environment. so i can give the exact numbers by t as it is now, every jenny is and a thread, but a how creek are we're moving in to who eggs or to decide who would depend on woo, actually determines how vulnerable regions to the climate change are there many enemies of the i p c. c in africa. are there any vested interests against the i p c. c? and what this report says about what needs to be done. i can say the enemies, but i couldn't speak off opportunities that are coming up or from the report

as it says, there's so many opportunities in our, the next us between an edge development, a war to issues, issues. so i think to africa this report is presenting another opportunity for many kid women sick does and t is take orders to come together to make sure that her people are acting immunities. so yeah, a speak more for opportunities that are presented. okay, you don't want to talk about, you don't want to talk about the enemies but the i p c. c report. this latest one says forget any idea of mirrors in the sky to deflect sunshine of machines to remove carbon dioxide from the atmosphere. those technological means are not going to save the human race. it is going to be, as you say, so socio economic restructuring and societal restructuring of how humans deal with

each other. i can't dismiss that technology, but in every, every step, every action is important towards a juicy, or the extent of these impacts. so any action or inaction towards that you see that impact of climate change is will come and say, that's what this report is telling us that no, no it is. no, actually legislate isn't saying matt, is it at all? it saying specifically that some technological or ways to stop climate change or wrong says so in the report i would want to wait in and say, i think the report of the army technological, her developments that her being in place or that are being proposed by a stick or dies by governments that are making sure that we move towards that he just seeing at the global warming to 1.5. so every

action is, is very important. empty, we now i 5, we already, we won't be very clear where we're 1.5. the report says the earth can only survive $1.00 for a very short period could be retrievable. but even at $1.00, just for a medium term, it will trigger feedback loops with sure could, i suppose, and the human race, i would say, let's know if the net $1.00 is from an african perspective. we are facing a order angel ah, impacts that are causing so much damage is less than damage to our economies to our society. so i am, we said to make sure that t we eggs now to avoid day are the possibilities of

reaching 1.54 to a degree. so that's why we are calling to we are calling us to court as and, and governments in particular to act now. but from what you're saying them, there's no difference really from the last to says what? i mean, the secretary general says delay is death and he hasn't read a report like this. we are saying we go to act now. they've been saying go to act now for for years there's no difference. and obviously, every time the i p c. c, releases a report. the temperature goes up. every time, every cop summit, the temperature goes up. i mean, is it time to abolish the i, b, c, c of it? all it can say is we have to act now in this kind of watery language. no, that's why i said it's not o dement and grandma in my 1st line because it is. and if evidence is presenting to us that of course they, i want you know what i call challenges or impacts that i'd gotten from the

increased or me. but the, they are big takeaways where the well, these adapting. but what we are saying right now is that rate and to speed at which we are adapting is not a matching a credit, which is the climate is movie. so the idea now or the way forward is to a tab, it in a much increase a rate than what j, than what countries do right now. so i think that's, that's a big takeaway. and let's say a very big statement in terms of giving hope to, to the people of african to the out there, there are food banks here in london and 40000000 need food stamps in the united states to eat tonight. how prepared is africa to cope with the, as it says in the report, the health problems, the homelessness, the disease that we will expect as these temperatures rise, i would say for,

for africa, considering that we're hosting the 27th this year. we are hoping that a the message to move forward, we move towards the increasing or climate adaptation. we share in africa. we are already adapting, but we hope to increase or to yeah, to bring to the pace at which economies or countries adoptee. but a yeah. of course i, that's not a true key sectors such as the hills, the food sector, the water sector are right now facing most plans from climate change and day. many, many africans, or of african citizens. they're facing foot foot, switch it. so she begins and moving forward with my tea because i better bay fed that tea and a increased. we're me productivity, i mean, aggregate productivity,

which is a key factor to, to, to the african economy will be affected. so we hope that the, the action or the time for a chin african government would be now, do you expect more environmental catastrophes or whether it be fires, hurricane cyclones before cop $27.00 in november in egypt? i can, i can see if specific number of a pro fee is that we are expecting, but the, the uncertainty is very high. right now i can give you, i'm in from experience we had kept on drought, but bless it for 3 years. we had recent dead flies in zimbabwe, more than picked a day or floods intake and give you the also it is in floods, infinity go. so yeah, they are, they are most of it in it is in their high chance that ah, we might be a. ready in a climate impacts i mean drought floods. ready in the coming years ago,

but i can say the exact number, i mean before, like a prince of it. that's it for one of your favorite shows of this season. the team and i will be back soon with a brand new look. but until then you can keep in touch my all social media if it's available in your country. and remember, you can continue to watch all going. undergoing episodes on odyssey and latino come see very soon oh ah, ah, in need to come to the russian state. will never be tied as on the most landscape div s mm hm. then close also maybe could been a $55.00 would be. okay, so mine is 2 bottles being anyone else with

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