check issue for a number of years have been present in syria, which is also somewhere in state. your army conducted a ration there. despite the very clear objections of the sitting government, what is the difference here been defending its interest in syria and russia to funding it's interesting ukraine. 30 not started the inmate syria because there are numerous terrorist attacks missionary circling by everyone that is not an issue . this is a certain issue, just accepted by everyone. 30 is being attacked by p k y p g forces from the border . for this isn't the turkish operations on the more little syria is limited on the with to a 25, you know, meet their stuff from order in order to secure the area and turkish troops are not securing the area about the sodium portion now are securing the area which call

themselves as it pretty story and are me for this reason the turkish operations, let's say on and just getting the border security with a very limited dep inside the sodium border. not that operation. you know, the car, you're, i left for the mass schools and other cities. but what is that? i'm sure you remember, and i remember that for sure is a workers funding they cover that or from the ground. it is true that the for now the trick is present to present is limited to about i think, $15000.00 troops and it's mostly alongside the truck is going to be much larger. and as you know, i'm sure you've heard of the russian allegation supported by the satellite images jerky was running a lot of well, what should i say contraband oil operations in that country. its presence is presence, not only military, most commercial cousins and political presence used to be much larger in the french,

don't you think so? jackie has upper issues other than the mid throw inside storia is also limited areas that are located near by the border. so the main difference between them is about securing the border. for example, let's give you an analogy that most co say is that if you crane part of the space for a nato, then nato are moments including emanation. santa reference systems will be as close as 500 kilometers to moscow, and it is a huge security problem from the perspective of to russia. this can be discuss about maybe russia is right. but can you imagine that if 500 kilometers is

a huge tract? so the security off russia, which ma'am we share, might be acceptable. how can turkey let the y, p g forces, which is sort of, especially by the united states, just on the border, which is shooting every day to the turkish cities. is acceptable. you mentioned neva, and i know that president arizona as well as many turkish and military analysts, commented on leaders present the american presence in syria as detrimental to check to security in the united states and nominally allies, russia and the united states. i'm not l. i stand straight adversaries. that's written in all the strategic documents, at least as far as the american military doctrine goes. do you think that russia should have ignored made us increasing presence in ukraine? not only present in terms of training soldier,

but also military it present sending. i'm in conducting all sorts of psychological operations. what have you, i person said for in many different platforms. net crisis in between you crate and russia. could me proof beforehand if the ukraine egg, our mom and it is over show, has a little sensitivity about what's going on in that area. for that reason, i certainly agreed that ukrainian or officials could bill it before the war has started and declared that they will not be a part of natal. that's clear. and then throughout the war, i said it's not only in your tv channel, in many different tv channels, that the war could be proactive. but it has me motivated by the west,

a love that they will be a part of nato and european union. and new zelinski government is the motivated, high the by the rest of them. and it, there, they didn't, took in the lesson from the georgia and the guy of ukraine and ukrainians is giving a life less especially the european union, united states policies and the united unity of nato. for this reason, i don't believe that russia has some security concerns as far as that nato is not friends and allies off the russia, russia. but those alaska government is being highly motivated and they do to gain a lesson from his story. i want to ask you about another comment of yours and these elijah resurrection of russian. zara expansion. isn't your suggestion?

and i'm quoting you here in europe and all the countries will undoubtedly still depression much more from now on. what exactly do you have in mind? from my point of perspective, if the security concern of russia is over ukraine is opening a way to the invasion of ukraine. and if the invasion becomes successful, then why there won't be any security threats from the bulk of countries to the russia, the balkan countries or the baltic countries with you mentioned, they are part of me though they're officially part of me. do you think russia, i mean, i think one of the distinctions in. a you know, military analyst and all the other kinds of analysts is that really to people tend to take into account, you know, the capacities of various actors to go outside enough ration,

given the scale of the challenge of russia and ukraine. you know, the military challenge, the social challenge, you know, all the western sanctions associated dc. russia has any resources, let alone motivation to invade, as you suggested the baltic states or to even look aggressively that way for the, for, for that issue, i should take a look at what is me call new sites. russia, when i read the newspapers relate to those issues. when i read the commands analysis, there are many are presented of source duma. and also there are many party leaders inside the russia which are stating that their goal is to prove and turn back to the border of night night to. so my cell for that reason it turned back to the night night to so that's why russia does not take into

consideration that the baltic countries and the eastern european countries also shoot me off natal. i'm also reading the russian newspapers, and there are many, many hours to suggest that russia should not try to undermine i ukraine's state that ukraine needs to remain a sovereign state with certain capital with the economy is not going back. and there will be some independence or some special regime on like some, some special rules or functioning for the non boss region. but there are many russians who believe that russia has a vital state in keeping ukraine as an independent country. i just want to point out that, you know it be opinions that you're reading is not the only one that exist here. tell you that are keeping the crania is a very high low state. let's say i'm a you, in a very high, low commons position. so the boss vision might be a solution to the problem,

which i also wrote that to my newspaper in the turkish a newspaper because compromising requires her so i have no idea if rational side, except the high low autonomy premium, which is officially connected to the ukraine. but it has a very high autonomous status, which has its own troops on putting a man, but connected to trade. and if my dot net net my to resolve the solution. but i also you, should you my right so that if the ukrainian site will accept this is not certain because then our, the ukrainian side is ready to accept some issues. there are many best news coming from the area, lack the butcher. for this reason,

i am very clear that also you can find that in my twitter account, i said that from now long if there are some shooting. thank links from death momentum. there'll me some suspects who is trying to promote peace in the ukrainian side, which i am stating less because that's the ether message, which i shared with the publish was very open. it was before the butcher, just after i showed it, the butcher video started to spin over to the international media. then i said, aha, someone who is not wanting the piece you said is a game on the stage. for that reason, i can believe that some compromises may be peace, but as mister laross said,

after the poke, you stumble, the ukrainian side started to bring some extra issues with cable, which i understand that he is a game being motivated by the rest in order to not accept russia is all for now. you know, again, i will answer about the issue because the issue that i wrote about the return of char, is not the same much you are telling. now, what, what do you mean i'm telling? now i'm quoting from your article where you can just say that rashid motivated by again, rather than security intra. if russia has time for those issue, but this is the history, every country is eager to turn back to it is moved off base. i don't understand this perspective, it's just to be very western dominated,

you're suggesting that russia is leaving in the past and it wants to recreate itself where as far as we're concerned, we're looking into the future, the media presence. you cringe represents a real security threat to russia. you should have nothing to do with resurrecting imperial russia or the soviet union. ask you with something to do with addressing needed challenges and hasn't russian been quite being patient in that regard given how stubbornly nater have moved towards it. also a couple of all sorts of things are being discussed inside russia in order to turn back to 1997. the nato, a large major russian side should ask to himself why. busy although west east european eastern european countries such as bulgaria, romania, paul is trying to be a part of tomato. they do not want to be together with russia.

i can answer that question for you right here. because when we entered meter, made in the european union was associated with prosperity. right? tricky also wanted to be part of meter. people wanted to have the reading standards as in europe, that situation has changed. and if i had people in your group given a choice on their security options, i'm not quite sure that they would overwhelmingly support b membership of data. if you cannot explain the nathan umbrella for protection, for the eastern european countries on the for welfare because they felt the soviet era killed the launch. they have some freights from the russia. for that reason. they want to be part of the nato and go around the they are security, especially from the russian expansion. the idea of which is coming from the soviet

you know, the proc spring and the other uprising and the soviet no pressure or the capital steers of that. and eastern european countries. for this reason, they want to be part of nato eagerly because of the phrase of russia expansion again to their home that then other issue. turkey is also part of the, as you said, if you take a look at my turkey became a part of nato. we can go back and me can find that mr. mala cough. the minister of foreign affairs in the soviet time, clearly demanded some lance from turkey in 1940. what it is, he push turkey himself to be a part of the nato for this isn't russia. turkey, eastern european countries,

best ukraine. everybody should learn from his story. so, so what i believe that russia should make them really is that russia does not pause that threat for those countries. well, mr. how about that? we have to take a very short break right now, but we will be back in just a few moments state you mm. mm hm. we're to talking to you all that technology should work for people. a robot must obey the orders given by human beings, except when such orders that conflict with the 1st law show your identification. we should be very careful about artificial intelligence. and the point obviously, is to create trust rather than fear a with artificial intelligence. real,

somebody with a robot must protect this own existence with just look up some levels of muscle with one of the cool position. did you bring up with something like that and then we

got that with that. ah welcome back to will record smith use of all of our data. retired colonel of the turkish army and security analyst were talking about the situation in ukraine. all those countries that you mentioned about from turkey, because turkey has a very singular, very specific security poster. it's a, it's, it's pretty unique when all the other countries who have invested, who have outsourced that security to the united states. having seen what ukraine has done and ukraine has extended it so we can, ada was left one on one with russia. it's not being defended by nita, how do you think the culture of those eastern european countries will change from

now on? do they have really have confidence in later security terms made those secure deterrence? is me test the invasion off to ukraine so far? the natal scott on these and especially united states, going to use europe in union countries go on to the ukraine, didn't for, as i said, it didn't work also in the georgia. so you can see beforehand, but because they have no state hoot traditions. if they had some fatal traditions, like in the past lines, they could understand that the never be together with them. if the lady and you on with your conscience by yourself, that is the history that showed us. it is very and you are by you are all with those countries is sensing lots of tracks

from the russian aggression inside you create for 3 is that the russian operations russian media also should move up in order to proceed that for those countries that russia does not have an intention of meeting those countries. well, we celebrate all due respect. most of the russian media have been cut off. i was waiting them or anything is very difficult and i don't think rush and i bring that . can i bring it criticism? this put me news was lost on a time telling that international media insight turkey was on the pressure, but then it comes to present. now, me can say that on the turkey is the country that the international media, including the russian international media general,

just elation of russian economy to some degree from the perspective of europe, which my contra never part, bates, them understandable. but who can tell me that poll slow and both is out of the curriculum. this is unacceptable. this is a typical restaurant of standing book is alicia. and me know that from the historic, that is the issue that i also advocate all the time in my country at tv shows. and also in my daily newspaper step, there are 2 pillars of the turkish foreign policy. one of them is the international law that it cannot be acceptable, the invasion of one country, but the other side. for the sake of europe don't, you shouldn't isolate and put some relocate to the russian side. you should keep

are with relations while they're one of the situation is insight you credit for that reason. i don't believe that having would relations with russia like in this area. we do not understand in every aspects in storia. we do not understand and each other, it every inch of in libya in the houses, but in both neither sister put in and mr. alarm is successful for finding a solution area. when we look at that relationship and then put an end on it or ration tricky, it's a very complicated relationship with fraud. but you said that your countries and that you really have been able to find difficult compromises. and a few years back when question was asked specifically about and on. and it was right in the middle of the syrian war. shortly after the church shut down the

russian plane. he said that if he and mister and on agreed on something, there was a high chance that'd be realized that you could trust areas on war is the same way to mr. the landscape where it, if that meeting ever comes about, agree on anything, can you really deliver what he promises? you know, to keep your promise, you should mean depend on what happens in pakistan. we can see that just for the sake of visiting moscow, the president in ron ha, now being toppled down by an interaction which is supported by the american operations. that is very clear because we know it from our story. for that reason, if you ask me mister booker, we'll keep it as promised. news. also believe that mister zalesky will keep this promise. i cannot say yes. why? because i do not believe that zaleski go,

and mister lansky is very free to take is on decisions. that is the issue that we should discuss in the next coming days for the peace process. talking. as mr. larosa i mentioned a couple of minutes ago, says that zaleski government starting to break new issues to the table after the stumble song. so this is unacceptable. for that reason, mr. avalon is keeping it this promises, but he pay a lot, especially in his struggle insight or let me you an example. if mr. long was not successful, keeping it as leadership during the $515.00 july. could that i had them. mr. long will not be able to sustain a good relations with mister vladimir booking. through our history, many prime minister has been coupled on from the government. the american

intervention isn't just because keeping with relation of the soviet and nothing changed. look at pakistan. look at that. you like them inside 30, for that reason. turkey paid lots of prize in order to establish if free foreign policy. and now we are getting the advantage that turkey is a long time establish relations. we must go by now you take a look at what the less the turkish opposition clearly and locates got all your relations, do not talk with russia. apply all the same to forward russia. what happened inside on kinda, you know, very well as me killed the owner isn't that the russian ambassador has

been as a snake in the capital city of turkey is just to break relations with relations with russia. that's a, that's a very important issue to raise. because tricky, obviously plays not only diplomatic or plays and. busy role in this company, but it also has a very important military role as the guardian on the, on the street. and i know that a minister of defense attorney will not allow native military ships into the black sea. he also speculated that he, what he said, that he can exclude the possibility that all those mines that have been appearing in the black sea near the turkish water has been brought there by those who want neither ships to go through the trade in value even contemplated i wonder what is the state of trust between turn can need or if your own minister defines allows for thought that you know, some of you need to alice can bring several 100 minus 2 to your sure. ah,

this is very important. also, the mines which came to the most source is a huge threat for the international trade. but before the war has thought that one of the former commander of the nato, which is responsible from the defense of the europe as clearly says that turkey should close the straits all even to look trading ships. and i said, we should take a look at the history in 1942 german ships. trespass from the was for sandra darlena and mom, the city is off, russia, and me and geisha war bethia rush on up on empire. and they asked me last night to thousands of our soldiers. why? because there were 2 adventurous, 3 adventures guys who was ruling bought them on empire. and they were not

a comfortable today or nation. and i asked this time you have now no chance because mr. i long the now we're left matthews, because closing straight even for the trading and ships means that turkey should fight with russia ukraine and the other black sea sharing. one says of, i don't believe that nato is trying to be a part inside the black sea, but there is a monster convention which turkey clearly applied that convention this to nato countries. and the less does not want turkey applies that launcher on. rushing over shallow turkey is an ally within a thought. but i can say that in 2022 turkey knows very well that in every security issue,

turkey should on the defense. it's guaranteed it is on force, this element that we have to leave it here. thank you very much for your inside. i really it. thank you very much and thank you for watching cold this year again next week. all the part with . mm so what we've got to do is identify the threats that we have. it's crazy even foundation, let it be an arms race is often very dramatic. development only personally and

getting to resist. i don't see how that strategy will be successful, very critical of time to sit down and talk who is the aggressor today? i'm authorizing the additional strong sanctions today. russia is the country with the most sanctions imposed against it. a number that's constantly growing up in your which of literally list of course. sure, as we speak on the bill in your senior, mostly mine or wish you were banding all imports of russian oil and gas news. i know they, franky, with regard to joe by imposing these sanctions on russia, has destroyed the american economy. so there's your boomerang like

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