worries from, from the front. so nothing too serious for the exciting lot with these for someone to say say it's not too bad. now the 2nd question 1st about the circumstances surrounding your capture. the situation was that we were moving from one position to another. we don't, we set, you know where we were going. it was 30, i was the last tuesday morning about 4 o'clock in the morning without, we moved to another position. we collected for casualties and other soldiers on the right down or where we got to the the i assume which was the position revoke are in soon and mortars and a cross started shooting rockets that houses around the area where you, where you were in. it was total confusion in the commanders and platoons just went off in different directions. some of us help to try and keep casualties up with the

patient chime with their designated returns, but they were just so injured and bad injured to them. they can can pass cheery and then during that course of that time, we lost contact with the main main platoon that we were with. and i'm story short. we found lots more casual teaching buildings in the house. it's you know, coming out of trees in who couldn't keep up with the price of what was happening. i stayed with another medic and another medic to help her to the cost to the casualties. we put them in one of the subject matter, put them in one building or we had no food, no water, no idea where we were communications officer down. and so we then decided they don't then decide it's sean, look around for ukrainian troops around the area. that is sort of a $360.00 round. can see anybody. the medic started more back to where we came from

. she conceded 40, so we were sort of stuck with like for you know, which in life and i sure i the only day we were and then no, sir i saw haven't see a picture station on a village up in one corner went out to see if i can find some more for some food in that's where i was, catches up until this little village on the central avenue, utah street. can you tell us about your tenure from the start to the beginning in within the ukranian armed forces says starting with your rank perhaps. and how did you end up there? a social not just with the 1st battalion currently, marines from nickel. i'm just commit to the end of our last 6 months in my contract . so i've been there for 2 and a half years when i'm there fast. and nothing spectacular just to be appeal was a my wife married a ukrainian in mario pushy,

listing marianne full. so we were there and needed some work while the walla sun from the school. i'm going to transition to university in carland to re carry. so it works for 3 year stint in the marines. our company background was working. i was working on yours as a patient that you know, with a volunteer that we nearly know it is a big step, 30 years later to car back into the, in the regular army. so, but it was, were written a suffered language over my client id is very, very bad, much between matter of pacific rushing sort of our understanding that will be as russian is coming on, i now swear we ended up with a sector normal sick to 12. we kind of obviously rush and now

coming in to play on the 20th, we'll separate, changed everything so. so this is where we're at with obviously stay with my unit. hm. and your new institution entered areas. and then obviously we had to stay in class and i really couldn't get out anyway, i wanted to show you that for me, but mary crispin mahonnan for yes, yes. yes, i want to find friends. now, internet, you know, showing i have been working here in boston the last 8 years since the start of the conflict back here in 2014. and myself, i saw the children who were ripped apart the elderly by the shilling of the ukrainian army. he just told me that you've lived there for, for years. obviously, you have the information that's a little bit different from what i've been getting on. obviously i'm reading everything that's happening in the western media having the language. but in your

opinion, at the moment, do you realize, do you understand what's been happening to the people on the bus i to yeah, i can certainly feel because obviously myself, i've lost my house. i've lost lots of friends in the last 3 weeks. it's been a tori tortora time. war is no good for any point in the day. i was kind of hoping it means korea which sort of come to sort of some sort of attrition and we could solve this patient or yeah, i do. i've seen more before, i've been imposing as well and you know, it's 193 with the united nation. so senior come on isn't good. some point there are 2 sorts, 2 different views or i don't agree with everything with the policy. so ukrainian or russian language. exactly. so i don't agree with, i wouldn't take up arms or discuss this in a whole lot. of course,

you know, my home is, this is a my was so essentially on the sort of the sort of side. but yeah, i can certainly understand from a that's a with just to crowd for, for property damage. it does with families and people are starting, understands what your comrades within your unit or probably other foreigners that fault with you. of course, many of them are not share your history, meaning that they don't have a relative here. the play like you and just trying to gauge. you know, there's sort of really asians of the war here. what are they here for? if it's purity soldiers of fortune, is it for the money?

is it's the ideological. is it possible to gauge their involvement of what's going on here? there isn't as many as people seem to think. there's 2 in our unit, but he's met you crying in studies, enjoying the rain as well as everybody knows myself, merit. and there isn't as many foreigners as people seem to think when the launch became status can cease 1st came, is flat. and then what is really interested in coming are, those are very few foreigners say that, you know, we found there is a network of x patch, you know, who to most of them are gone home, or maybe 3 or 4 that is still a self inherited included and they will merit to, to your cravings, so i don't know anybody to so come on. yeah. there are people that do come over so

some are running away from things. some are problems on some just want to share on the adventure. and you know, you can get those, some are actually believes that the course, you know, so it comes in degrees of practice. what people still fall into clearly. i mean, yeah, i don't know many here now since orders. you can static in the last page, that's of each problem. i have changed. now i don't know, i've not had any information or any wife or i have no idea what's going on in the world. what's happening? you cry where it stands for the last 5 or 6 weeks, because i've been on a position in mario. i've been in the hospital because obviously a bomb went off quite close to where i was so, or come out hospital and rent that consumer front. not sure, i've got a fair hearing program at the moment. i'm going to same trouble with my ear because i was shot at by well, list for front in the, in syria and,

and thank michelle. i hit my car and i'm out of here in years. so, and i know exactly what you're talking about. i wanted to ask you also about the difference between the ukranian regular army and the so called territorial defense battalion called as of gold. i dar, i'm sure you heard of all of them. could we, you know, puts, you know, kind of distinguish between the, could you tell us about that? yeah, i live in, mary, i so, so as of see, see, is quite common. you know, the situation is the, from our understand is the national guard control assessment. so national guard, no westerners are allowed to the, to the cries on, all right, and it's fall on it's controlled or inspected. it's not from what i understand as of it's not a site showing me great. it was back in 2004. and as for as of itself,

it has very good equipment for me, but recruitment, the more you asked with my unit consist, so you know, 80 hours on the equipment. so, and you know, is it varies based in the barracks or need constant work in refill? would it be trying it is i can compare service center training, but the training is very modern. it but it's trying to understand as a little bit better a little bit more funds are made available. push us off. but sally and they've been accused by the united nations of committing a war crimes and atrocities. i've seen time and again myself people or did say from i was up italian. they have a swastika, it's, you know, painted over their body and they've been accused of nazi variations by b,

b, c by vice news by, you know, what have you, by many difference, a news media around the world. and obviously, you know, more about them since you know you've been in closer contact if you will. i'm not sending direct but still, what can you tell us about that? about their not c affiliations and about their atrocities against peaceful civilians. i told them too much about allegations we was soon to civilian special, can't really comment for i i would if i knew to be honest but i so some of the car is a has off. i generally you guys to car work in a village is going to be process the trademark on a stan. i know there are sure maybe

a minimum, you know, some cost to the all the cause of not for i don't really see much of it. and it's not a lot of people walk around preaching or theory and entertainment barrier for showing it on the rooftop started really say, i've lived in new cars for years. if it's about the nazi for any credit or i have never seen a nasty track, never witnessed any nasty behavior. the no st. parade's? no, i just, i've been here. i've been mood. i've been to the crime shows, i've been sick all around you crying. i never seen this for granted, actually most more time he spent actually on the side with my wife and i live in marietta with. so this is why my dear to learn more should be presented here every time it's easy for me showing, you know, it's a somewhat surprising to me when you said that you haven't seen any

of the signs of your caches on that is mean ukraine. do you know who monday? yes, this is history. lesson is a state college and ukrainian or do i have to torture it naturally? my marshes on don't know to fall aspects of it. i don't know the us a call from my under so i don't understand. i'm not you crying, and i'm, i understand, well, just to, to fill you in the era is not a collaborator during a world war 2. and i want to add a different presidency in ukraine's our pro russian, somewhere to russia and said they were all o one party were for nancy, him as the hero of ukraine. the others denounced it. so there's this constant fight where they, he is a hero of ukraine or not, but he's been proven that he is

a car to talk about it, cuz i hear this phone too. so it's an on essentially never going to be incredibly english like con source. so right, the difference between, you know, there is why very well one is because everybody knows fall. when i did with you had made the choice to take up arms and fight on one side. yeah. because my harms that i've lost my arm. okay, so, so that's, it is done, my home is beyond its tra, everything's gone. and so i had to make a choice because it's my home did. did you want to go on to the 3 year contracts when there was a sci fi? and i'm a soldier in ukraine. the end of the day i had no choice other than to it just to say fine to my home. and then next, the only reason, i mean, because i started in my room are why apply for the battery or do you have a crating citizenship? no more. um, you know, at the end of residency for the time of the contract,

which is where you were looking to finish the contract and i have to leave the country anyway or theirs, mine on the contract. and then apply for reggie can see which is the c and c to speak with a member, which is the only reason why are to run the management. and then they know because we have to leave the country. i didn't know we were gonna say i'd like to said, i mean we're going to see my son off to university finish my contract, a hard to see more about time. so are you being treated as a prisoner or, or, or are you being treated as a criminal year because you're training citizen and are you a hired gun or are you a ukrainian p o w? what are you at the moment? did they tell you that they have just told me so? so in the last couple of days or in ukraine, really, you know, we're 3 year contract for our change to laws to allow foreigners to join the army.

and we essentially fall under the colors if you cry and, and we thought there were 4, you can aspect here it is on so is that we are now considered a legal combines even though we have got our take live here married here because we are not citizens of the frame so under, under, from what i'm told is that we could go to troll, we're under investigation 3 days, we could go to trial. and if it goes to trial, the worst case scenario is definitely with her, which is just been told to me for that. so you can understand more. i'm a little confused at the moment. no. you could select, he's put out over a call for foreigners to join the military. obviously i get one side of it here. so i don't know the full information on both sides. i get one side, and so he's per call out to the foreign military for foreigners to come join the

military essentially myself and i didn't, i was like when the 1st foreigners to join the military and it looks like if we don't get swats, we could actually end up, you know, we're situation being neglected for the fairy country we were forced to make in. i'm not really too. so i hope that is not the case, but i'm, but you know, it's, it's, it's who are in there today, and people want to exchange prison. listen, people want different things. so we're hoping that something can be arranged as fast. so we've ukraine and her can see my wife again now in pens, make some decisions, you know, definitely need hospital or some treatment on some stuff and things like that. otherwise, we worst case scenarios. we could just be but you might get the death penalty, which is which is nice and good. would you have done anything

differently and knowing now that you have your hand well practically. no. back up there in murray who pull from key if you only empty promises you unfulfilled promises because i read the ukrainian press a for in press russian press. and we constantly here, over the last couple of weeks that ukraine is about to send more troops to the blockades. murray, who paul, to help out the people there. but each time we just saw attempts to rescue, you know, higher higher ups from your truce. but people from 4 to 6 brigade, regular soldiers more just sent out from the burgess cannon fodder. if you have done anything differently, if you knew that before you went in for well,

1st of all, let me address the fact that if i didn't know that we were to class is illegal contracts a hard copy, want to sign a contract that's. that's for sure. i would appreciate it 1st and 2nd because when citizenship comes onto your contract and come and sign a certain, you know it's on it. and on the back it up, i've just set it for probably the worst time in my life where we brought in tomorrow and full time. and the circle just got smaller and smaller. make on phone, bob and from bob, bob from bob, we very little return. obviously, su previously we knew that was the case that we've written pastor with source because that's where most people don't know. that phase says i don't know any information about mostly said i'm nice because

we've had overseas not going on. i might not find the information isn't good, positive or negative. so i can't comment on a, this is my heart or if you leave a consent because i just, sometimes it just abandoned me. i don't know. i have no idea. i still don't know, mary, or i don't know even a lie of how you current, you know, maybe start by i don't know anything on. just see here, are you thinking, you know, where we are? is this city crane is the know what street type you want to know or we can get exchange the now got think a few somebody places to worry about. you know, it's done or, or, or here it is finished and then now are stuck here with this problem. so a car ready comment and shot. finally, a bill told that you made a call to british authorities for foreign exchange. i don't know if i'm right or

not and what was your call to them and what do you think they can do for you at this point for? they made it clear that they wanted to exchange us for a piece of metal metal, a usage with his name, and they said that he wants to exchange us for him, a ukraine with no, i dont know. he says, i think they said no. did the dentist, people's republic cancer exchange us for i know that i think it was, it was missing translation because from what i'm for, from what i've seen in the news. i made the joke. he's a ukrainian citizen, and there is no basis, you know, legal or political or whatever for him to be changed. it's something ukrainian side wants to exchange one politic well figure in ukraine for you guys. and for the rest

of the ukrainian soldiers, there are at least $3000.00 in captivity right now. that's what they want. but russians are yet to answer about that. so i don't know, see again or the are not fully up to speed in the ocean, comment on it for now, because i was like to make a call to the british authorities. i've always done that. yeah, we did make a video to the asking for obviously the push the agenda and i let me bring my family to sort of say, you know, i'm r k, i can re lobby and paste and maybe look at doing this. so yeah it's, it's done. it's been done, i'm sort of controlled here. so all i have an opinion is if it helps me then i will, will, will help them over there to be accepting the fact we come from 2 different paths which, which is quite humble, really. and like i said, all personally mary,

are poor is over at the moment, bigger problems with our civil wonder if more sure she's got money or if she's ok, you know, i think what they see is, is this now where they protect, you know, where i'm going to ever get out. generally we've been so awesome. you can expect obviously a little bit of discomfort. been a prisoner for i'm sorry. so you know, it's not going to be here in hartwell or sheridan, you know, i'm sorry. so you said that generally, generally, you know, you know, i mean, it was a trade i kind of well, georgia summarize this will hold the war, end of this conflict. ukraine will be over soon. over my last a year, tenure a year. i understand that war as hell and the 1st people that suffer our civilians to see my fair share and i think to fill in a city are reviewed. i hope it's dollar kicks in. 2 hours stops very soon

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