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a sean. thank you for agreeing to speak with us today. first of all, i want to ask you about the state of your health. how are you? you are in captivity at the moment. so 1st of all about your health. mm hm. okay. not too bad cuz she worries from, from the front of nothing too serious. with being said and more certain needs for someone to say certain kids not too bad. now the 2nd question 1st about the circumstances surrounding your capture, the situation was we were moving from one position to another. we don't we 2nd know where we were going. it was 30, i was the last tuesday morning, about 4 o'clock in the morning without we moved to another position. we collected

casualties and other soldiers on, on the right down where we got to the, the r assume which was the position we were covering soon. and mortars and across, started shooting rockets, houses, and around the area where you, where you were in. it was total confusion in the commanders and crew tunes just went off in different directions. some of us help to try and keep our casualties up with the price in charm with their designated returns, but they were to so injured and bad injure to learn. they can can cheery and then during that course of that time. so we lost contact with the main main platoon that we were with. and i'm story short. we found lots more casual teaching buildings in the house. it's, you know, coming out of trees and earth, who couldn't keep up with the price of what was happening. i stayed with another

medic and another medic to help her to the cost to the casualties. we put them in one of the subject matter. put them in one building or we had no food, no water, no idea where we were communications officer down. and so we then decided they don't then decide it's sean, look around for ukrainian troops around the area. it is sort of a $360.00 round can see anybody. the medics altered more back to where we came from . she conceded 40. so we were sort of stuck with like for, you know, which in life and i sure i the only day where we were and then no, sir, i saw him see a picture station on a village up in one corner went up to see if i can find some more for some food, and that's where i was catching up until this little village on the central avenue, utah street. can you tell us about your tenure from the start to the beginning

in within the ukranian armed forces says, starting with your rank perhaps. and how did you end up there? a social, not just with the 1st battalion training marines from nikolai, i'm just coming to the end of our last 6 months in my contract. so i've been there for 2 and a half years when i'm there fast. and nothing spectacular just to be appeal was a my wife married a ukrainian in mario pushy, listing marianne full. so we were there and needed some work while the walla of sun from the school. i'm a transition to university of carland to re key the saw it with 3 year stint in the marines. our company background was working. i was working on yours as a patient with a volunteer that didn't really know it is a big step. 30 years like 30 car backing to during this regular army. so,

but it was, were written a suffered language over my client. he was very, very bad much between matter. pacific question. so i understand it will be a russian, this comment on i now swear we ended up with a sector normal $6.00 to $12.00. we kind of obviously rush and now coming in to play on the 20th, we'll certainly changed everything so. so this is where we're at with over slow stay with one unit. never mind your new institution entered areas. and then obviously we had sustained cost america a could get out anyway, i wanted to show you that for me. but mary, i 1st been behind for, for yes, yes. yes, i want to go now to find friends. now,

internet, you know, showing i have been working here in boston the last 8 years since the start of the conflict back here in 2014. and myself, i saw the children who were ripped apart the elderly by the shilling of the ukrainian army. he just told me that you've lived there for, for years. obviously, you have the information that's a little bit different from what i've been getting on. obviously i'm reading everything that's happening in the western media having the language. but in your opinion, at the moment, do you realize, do you understand what's been happening to the people on the bus i to yeah, i could certainly feel because obviously myself, i've lost my house. i've lost lots of friends in the last 3 weeks. it's been a tori tortora time. war is no good for any point in the day. i was kind of hoping it means korea which sort of come to sort of some sort of attrition and we can

solve this patient or yeah, i do. i've seen more before, i've been in boston yourself and you know it's one to 2 with the united nation. so a senior come or who isn't good. at some point, there are 2 sorts, 2 different views or i don't agree with everything with the policy. so ukrainian, or russian language. exactly. so i don't agree with i wouldn't take up arms or discuss this in a whole lot. of course, you know, my home is, this is a my was so essentially on the sort of the suicide. but yeah, i can certainly understand from that sort of diploma and with this to crowd for, for could say and damage it does to, to families and people are starting. understands what your

comrades, i was in your unit or probably other foreigners that fought with you. of course, many of them are not share your history, meaning that they don't have, you know, a relative here. the play like you and just trying to gauge. you know, there's sort of silly ations of the war here. what are they here for? if it's purity soldiers of fortune, is it for the money? is it's the ideological. is it possible to gauge their involvement of what's going on here? there isn't as many people seem to think there's 2 in our unit, he's met you, craig, and studies that join the range is i can ask them as everybody knows myself merit. and there isn't as many foreigners as people seem to think when the lawns became status. can the seas 1st came,

is flat and then what is really interested in coming are those are very few foreigners say that, you know, with there is a network of x patch, you know, who to most of them are gone home or maybe 3 or 4 that is still a self inherited included and they will merit to, to your cravings. so i don't know anybody to come on. yeah. there are people that do come over so some are running away from things. some are problems on some just want to share with the actually adventure and you know, you can get those. some are actually believes that the course, you know, so it comes in degrees of practice. what people still fall into clearly. i mean, yeah, i don't know many here now since orders, you can static in the last page. that's of each problem. i have changed. now i don't know. i've not had any information or any wife or i have no idea what's going

on in the world. what's happening, you cry where it stands for the last 5 or 6 weeks because i've been on a position in mario. i've been in the hospital because obviously a bomb went off quite close to where i was so or come out hospital and rent that consumer front loss runs. are important at the moment. i'm going to same trouble with my ear because i was shot at by. well, this front in the, in syria and, and tank michelle, i hit my car and i'm out of here in years. so, and i know exactly what you're talking about. i wanted to ask you also about the difference between the ukrainian regular army and the so called territorial defense battalion called as of gold. i dar, i'm sure you heard of all of them. could we, you know, put, you know, kind of distinguish between the, could you tell us about that?

yeah, i live in mary, i so, so as of see, see, is quite common. you know, the situation is the, from our understand is the national guard control as well. so national guard, no western, those are allowed to the to decrease or as a default on it's controlled or inspected, it's not from what i understand as of it's not a site showing me great. it was back in 2004. and as for as of itself, it has very good equipment for me, but recruitment, the more you asked with my unit consist, so you know, all the details on the equipment. so, and you know, is it varies based in the pirates or need constant work in refill? we did, we train it is i can't compare service center training,

but the training is very modern. it, but it's trying to understand as a little bit better, a bit more funds are made available as of but sally and they've been accused by the united nations of committing a war crimes and atrocities. i've seen time and again myself people or did say from as up italian. they have a swastika, you know, painted over their body and they've been accused of nazi variations by b, b, c by vice news by, you know, what have you, by many difference, a news media around the world. and obviously, you know, more about them, since, you know you've been closer contact if you will. i'm not sending direct. but still, what can you tell us about that? about they're not asians, and about their atrocities against peaceful civilians. i told them too much about

a student who civilian special can't really comment for i. i would if they find it to be honest. no. i. so i some of the car is a has off. i generally you guys to car, to work in a village is going to process the trademark on a stan. i know there are sure, maybe a minimum, you know, soon course through the all the cause of not for i don't really see much of it and it's not a lot of people walk around preaching or theory and entertainment barrier for showing it on the rooftop started really say all our lives in new cars for years. if it's about the nazi for any credit or i have never seen enough to track me,

never witnessed any nasty behavior in our street parade. no, i just, i've been here a mood. i've been to the crime shows, i've been sick all around you crying and he never seen this for granted. actually, most more time he spent actually on the saw, it was my wife and i have been very helpful. so this is why my dear to learn more should be presented here every time it's easy for me showing, you know, it's a somewhat surprising to me when you said that you haven't seen any of the signs of neo fascist on that is mean ukraine. do you know who monday? yes, this is history. do you know that it's a state college and ukrainian, or do you have source it naturally marcia's, on the, on? don't know, to fall aspects of it. i don't know the us a can't comment my under. so i don't understand, i'm not ukrainian, i mean,

i don't, i understand, well, just to, to fill you in the era is not a collaborator during a world war 2. and i want to add a different presidency in ukraine's our pro russian, somewhere to russia and said they were all want to party were for nancy him as the hero of ukraine. the others denounced it. so there's this constant fight where they, he is a hero of ukraine or not, but he's been proven that she is a car to talk about it, cuz i hear this phone too. so it's an on essentially never going to be incredibly english is my con source. so right, the difference between, you know, there is why very well one is because everybody knows fall. when i want to leave, you have made the choice to take up arms and fight on one side. yeah. because more harms that i've lost my harm. okay so so that's it is done. my heart is beyond its tra, everything's gone. and so i had to make a choice because it's my high and did,

did you want to go on to the 3 year contracts when there was a sci fi? and i'm a soldier in ukraine. the end of the day, i had no choice other than to it just to say fine to my home. and that's the only reason i'm being because i started in for my my why apply for the battery or do you have a crating citizenship? no more. um, you know, at the end of residency for the time of the contract, which is where you were looking to finish the contract. and i have to leave the country anyway or theirs, mine on the contract, and then apply for residency, which is easier and statistic, which is a certain number, which is the only reason why are to run the management. and then they know because we have to leave the country. i didn't know we were gonna say i'd like to said, i mean we're going to see my son off to university, finish my contract, a hard to see more about time. so are you being treated as

a prisoner or, or, or are you being treated as a criminal year because you're training citizen and are you a hired gun or are you a ukrainian p o w? what are you at the moment? did they tell you that they have but just home and so, so in the last couple of days for any ukraine, really, you know, we're 3 year contracts for our change to laws to allow foreigners to join the army . and we essentially fall under the colors if you cry and, and we thought there were 4, you can ask here asap. so is that we are now considered a legal combines, even though we have got a live here married here, because we are not a citizen of the frame. so under, under, from what i'm told is that we could go to trial. we're under investigation 3 days.

we could go to trial and if it goes to trial, the worst case scenario is debt financing. with her, which is just been told to me for that. so you can understand more. i'm a little confused at the moment. because the lens is put out over a call for foreigners to join the military. obviously i get one side of it here. so i don't know the full information on both sides. i get one side, and so he's put a call out to the foreign military authorities to come join the military, essentially myself and i didn't, i was like when the 1st foreigners to, to join the military. and it looks like, if we don't get swats, we could actually end up, you know, worst situation and being neglected for the fairy country we were forced to make in . i'm not really too. so i hope that is not the case, but i'm, but you know, it's, it's, it's for the delay and people want, you know, to exchange prison. listen,

people want different things. so we're hoping that something can be arranged as fast, so we can ukraine. and so can see my wife are good now in friends make some decisions, you know, definitely need hosp towards some treatment on some staff and things that are otherwise worst case scenarios. we could just be but you might get the death penalty, which is which is nice and good. would you have done anything differently and knowing now that you have your hand well practically. no. back up there. in murray, who pull from ikea. i only empty promises. you unfulfilled promises because i read the ukrainian press, i read it before. impress russian press and we constantly hear over the last couple

of weeks that ukraine is about to send more troops to the blockades murray opal to help out the people there. but each time we just saw attempts to rescue, you know, higher, higher ups from your truce, but people from 4 to 6 brigade, regular soldiers more just sent out from the burgess cannon fodder. if you have done anything differently, if you knew that before you went in for well, 1st of all, let me adjust the fact that if i did not agree with the class is illegal, confess a hard copy would have signed a contract. thus that's for sure. or would it cost for citizenship 1st and 2nd, because when citizenship comes on through contract coming. so i assume, you know, it's on the, on the back and i just said for probably the worst time in my life where we thought

it's mary or full and the circle just got smaller and smaller make on the phone. bob and from bob, from bob, from bob, we very little return. obviously as the previous, we knew that was the case with, with source because that's where most people dies. and thes says, i don't know any information about most we said, i'm nice because we've had overseas not going on. i might not find the information isn't good, positive or negative. so i can't comment on the decisions on my heart. or if you leave a consent because i just, sometimes it just abandoned me. i don't know. i have no idea. i still don't know, mary, or i don't know even a lie of how you current, you know, maybe start by i don't know anything on just sit here. are you thinking, you know,

where are we at? is this silly crane? is there no, what street type you want to know? are we gonna get exchange? and now i think a few somebody places to worry about. you know, it's done now or, or here it is finished and then now are stuck here with this problem. so a car ready comment and shot. finally, a bill told that you made a call to british authorities for foreign exchange. i don't know if i'm right or not, and what was your call to them and what do you think they can do for you at this point for? they made it clear that they wanted to exchange us for the so much message a uses his name and they said that he wants to exchange us for him. a ukraine with no i dont know. he says,

i think they said no. did the dentist peoples republic cancer exchange us for i know that i think it was, it was missing translation because from what i'm for, from what i've seen in the news. i mid that shockey the ukranian citizen, and there is no basis, you know, legal or political or whatever for him to be changed. it's something ukrainian side wants to exchange one politic figure in ukraine for you guys, and for the rest of the ukrainian soldiers, there are at least 3000 in contingency right now. that's what they want. but russians are yet to answer about that. so i don't know, see again or the are not fully up to speed in the ocean, comment on it for now, because i was like to make a call to the british authorities. i've always done that. yeah, we did make a video to the asking for obviously push the agenda and i let me bring my family to

sort of say, you know, i'm r k, i can re lobby and paste and maybe look at doing this. so yeah it's, it's done. it's been done on sort of controlled here. so while i have an opinion for it, if it helps me then i will, will, will help them of the sleep. there seems to be accepting the fact we come from 2 different parts which, which is quite humble, really. and like i said, all personally mary, are poor is over at the moment. bigger problems with are still wonder if more sure she's got money or if she's r k. and i think what they say is, is this now where tax number i'm going to ever get out? generally we've been so you can expect obviously a little bit of discomfort being a prisoner for i'm sorry, so you know, it's not going to be here in hartwell or sheridan, you know, i'm sorry. so you said that generally, generally, you know, you know,

going with your trade. i kind of whoa calling with georgia summarized as well. hold or the war end of this conflict. ukraine will be over soon. what i would say about over my last a year tenure ear, i understand that more as hell and the 1st people that suffer our civilians to lu. yeah, i've seen my fair share and i think to fill in a city i'm with you. i hope it's dollar kicks in, so 2 course stops very soon because his son snar. good friend, sean. thank you. ah

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