a with i consider the proposed storming of the industrial zone impractical. i order you to cancel it, block off this industrial area so that the fly doesn't fly through vladimir putin congratulate to russian forces and their allies on taking the city of marble and orders a home to the storming of a factory. that is the last pocket of ukrainian military resistance in the city. our crew reports from the edge of the embattled industrial plant residential neighborhood that was held by ukrainian nationalist, been with chiles government joins in on efforts to find a plan. american journalist, gonzalo lira who went missing in the ukrainian city, a park of

a week ago after openly criticizing the country's leadership. several member states are now beginning to send heavy artillery to ukraine. after numerous, please. from kim's president, zalinski, examine how that move is purportedly violating their own treaties against supporting conflict with broadcasting lab direct from our studios in moscow, this is our to international. i'm john thomas. certainly glad to have you with letting me put in. it has advised russia's military to not storm the underground levels of a steel factory. that is the last remaining pocket of ukrainian resistance and arguable in a meeting with the russian defense minister. he said that those areas should simply be blocked off and made clear that any ukrainian troops who surrender should not be harmed. he congratulated rushes military on what he claims as a victory in the battle for the strategic port city, particularly blue. which was huge to i consider the proposed storming of the

industrial zone impractical. i order you to cancel it. this is a time when we must think, we must always think, but even more so in this case, about preserving the live and health of our soldiers and officers. there's no need to climb into these catacombs and crawl under ground through these industrial facilities block off this industrial area so that the fly doesn't fly through once again. invite everyone who has not yet laid down their arms to do so. the russian side guarantees their lives, putting such an important center in the south as mary you pull under control is a success. congratulations. russia's defense minister sagen chicago has said that the city has been cleared of ukrainian forces, with half of them being eliminated. and about a quarter of them surrendering the remaining fighters are reportedly hold up in the underground sections of the as of stall factory that we mentioned earlier. meanwhile, gives president zalinski has refused to acknowledge losing control of variable and

says ukrainian troops are continuing to fight correspondence. but august, yet reports from the outskirts of the embattled industrial zone in which the last ukrainian troops had been block heater that it was well on top of a high rise building right on the edge of the household, steve, industrial coven, please leave the left residential neighborhood that was held by ukrainian nationalists. they've been for out of here with just one building. everything beyond he's bought, i'll go deal with this. me. oh business. i was here still very much i had with the view here. everything that is controlled by ukrainian nationalists. russian forces now ring the entirety of the agile steel

industrial side, the orders that they have now at the stand in positions be ready, but vladimir putin has ordered the russian defense minister, the council, the council applied rate of the as of steel. so it offensive only hasn't seal industrial complex because of the potential body count. you must bear in mind that this is a button combat. perhaps the only thing was when combat to ease nuclear war. every single apartment, every single room, every single entrance meiza of ground is for 2 and blood spilled full. well, the russian president wants to save as many laws as possible because you have to understand the soldiers fighting here. their rule, someone's fog of someone's brother, someone's son, they have children who they want to return to. they want to support and who will miss them for their lives if they full in least battle,

especially considering the sorry state that the ukrainian nationalists inside the as of steel co blinks, are read about 2000 of them remain there as well as hundreds of foreign fines is, musson read together with their own morale, their low and food on water, on ammunition, many one to surrender. many one a way out. they understand that for them. this is the end, the russian side in say, still, i mean want to surrender will be treated with dignity there. you can hear a sniper far and away from feeling industrial complex. so it's, it's probably best to head out. but an allied forces have been leaving. are you able to return to their permanent basis after they say that the city was cleared of ukrainian nationalist troops?

oh, soldiers of the done yet republic, claiming victory have been receiving warm welcomes by local residents. but the formerly besieged city faces huge humanitarian problems as local residents lack necessities, such as fuel, food and water. with the agent being doled out on a broad scale, and are you able to help local residents overcome the planetarium crisis in the city or t correspondence, or among cause of comments on the situation. residents, self barrios are still living without electricity or running water. they have these a make shift kitchens just outside of their buildings. they're still in need of humanitarian aid and we continue to deliver on a daily basis. so this particular area, it's right next to us all us metallurgy,

a plant and you can see all around me. all these buildings have been damaged by a constant artillery shelley. at the moment there is no gunfire can not be heard in this particular area. and all we could hear our air strikes were russian aviation is bombing, the remainder of the nation is battelle is to have been hold up within as of style metallurgy plants. and it's hoped that the situation will soon be over. it became scary for us. now it is still not peaceful. of course we are waiting for victory. so close up a car as soon as the shooting starts, people start to get scared, so they hide in the basement. they are also afraid that they can get hurt from the shelling medicine and everything else is very hard to get. because of that, people try not to go out on the streets. they only go when they can make something to eat or help one another unless we had such times when we managed to bake rat

city. there are 2 grandchildren and a little girl from the neighbors with me when we were in the basement. when we divided the bread into 4 parts, let's my younger grandson took his part and ran while the elder one just stood next to me. i told him was miss dennis, take the food and eat that. and he said to me, grandma, no need you eat, do you understand? what more can i say we became so united that we get together and crowds and we helped one another with whoever had something to eat. we caught it when the russian army came, they brought a field kitchen with them and the soldiers came to us and said, go to the kitchen anyhow. it was very hard of the horse with we just didn't expect that something like that could actually happen. the trillion government has joined in on efforts to find the 54 year old, which lay an american journalist. gonzalo lira went missing of the ukrainian city of hark of a week ago after openly criticizing he of leadership and armed forces or figures done of comments, he called out the ukrainian government funded skeletons in the closet. he reported

from the ukrainian side of the front and now he's vanished or rather been vanished or so his friends via the ministry of foreign affairs, through its councillor section in moscow was informed that those close to the chile and gonzalo lear lopez who was in the ukrainian city of carcass had lost contact with him since april 15th last time lira was heard from he was in the ukrainian city of hot, and the allegations he was making would only have left key of very much unimpressed . there is constant showing of be done by us reaching the break away public republic. south. gotcha. and over the years, well, about 16000 people were killed there needlessly. and it was really because of the aggression of the ukraine regime, which never wanted to negotiate with people on the brake publics. lira was exposing corruption and institutionalized naziism right from the lions den in

a country that officially banned all the position media along with anyone else from speaking ill of the regime. the journalist had earlier raised the alarm over some shady figures loitering around his house. i don't know who exactly, but i know that convicts were released from prison. i hear from many people that the criminals were released by this lensky regime so that none of the civilians could leave carcass. there are rumors of those men who were armed going into people's homes. this is a list of journalists, lira put together saying they had been persecuted by the ukrainian authorities for descent. put my name on this list if i'm not heard from in 12 hours. bleary tweeted, it's been days with great regret turned even greater sense of concern and zion. and more that i have to tell you that there is still no sign of

our 1st guest, gonzalo liberal, and sadly the ground for concern is solid. one of ukraine's most notorious near not see henchmen hinted one of his zealots may have had something to do with lear's disappearance. the irony of gonzalo lira chilion being caught by guy with the call sign chilly is hilarious. anyway, let's hope the beheading pops up on telegram soon. that post has now been deleted. after all, lira is an american citizen. he criticized the landscape is missing. was the lensky who choked of all disobedient voices on a whim is getting international awards for upholding the values of free speech. gonzalez, disappearance definitely could be linked to what he has been saying. not only on twitter been on youtube and telegram, he's been one of the key sources. are people looking for information that contra

bales and to the mainstream narrative here in the united states that shows the lensky as some kind of great democrat when in fact, he's this, this regime which is full of se hiring real nazis has been murdering and disappearing dissidents. and so the fact that gonzalo lira has been speaking about about this and is inside ukraine, certainly could have made him a target for the ukranian government, which tolerates no opposition at all. we heard from anna maria oliver of the julian metropolitan council of the college of journalists, who says that leer as disappearance may have been violent because he was openly critical against the ukrainian government. mr. still be a good. our concern is related to the situation that has developed in ukraine not only during the war,

but also in previous months. some of the opponents of the current government have been attacked or killed. so we know that those who are not satisfied with the current regime are not accepted there. gonzalo lira would be among those journalists to report on the internet about what is happening from what we know at the moment, from what has been published in europe. we have the impression that this disappearance may have been violent because of the criticism that gonzalez, era expressed against the ukrainian government. therefore, it is extremely important that the authorities of our country pay attention to this and request from the ukrainian side of full investigation into whether he is still on the territory of ukraine. this is not the only case of someone critical of government going missing as a prominent ukrainian blogger and activists has been found dead in the city of caps on the larry coolish of has been said to have been killed when he left his apartment on april 20th and headed to his car, where apparently an assassin was waiting for him. a blogger was found with gunshot wounds to his head, body, and arms. a coolish off had been using social media to help find people who have

gone missing in the conflict. he also took part in organizing a charity fund, provide held for refugees. the regularly posted images from the city of epsilon, and talked about issues that demanded public attention. but some ukrainian media outlets have described the blogger as pro russian, and accused him of collaborating with russian troops, nor now in control. of course, on college, i've had denied those allegation saying that he was trying to help make life better for fellow residents of the words when city earlier. you cringe president issued condemnation and threats against any one who tries to make a deal with russia. who just because i want to address those who aren't shying away from talking with the occupancy. if any of you are tempted by their proposals, you're signing your own sentence to go the same way as more than 12000 invaders who just because of the issue so far, there has been no response from ukrainian officials about the killing of larry cush off we will keep you updated if there are any developments ukrainian president

zalinski is expected to be awarded the german media freedom price despite several western outlets. having asserted that ukraine lacks freedom of speech, the ukrainians, bella, russians, and russians are at the forefront of the fight against evil, against war and tyranny, and eastern europe and courageously defend their freedom, as well as ours, with words, deeds, great courage, and their lives. many ukrainian publications and journalists avoid reporting news that looks bad for their country or could serve russian propaganda violence against journalists as commonplace in ukraine since the beginning of 2019 the new j u has recorded 23 attacks on members of the press. the ward is presented to public figures who are distinguished for their commitment to freedom of expression, political dialogue and democracy. this year the prize is dedicated to the struggle for freedom in eastern europe, and in addition to the landscape, it is also expected to be given to bel russian opposition. leader said bonnet from

the sky and rushing journalists, marina overshown, the cova. we heard from journalist and author, daniel lazar who says that the western establishment pushes the idea that ukraine's press is free. but it's not. i think the un nato, a wind up losing at the, the information war in the, in the ukraine is all about the question of not the u. s. that made for trade the, the government is a democratic government and therefore try to disguise the fact that, that, that not the elements are extremely important and extremely influential throughout the, the quine and government and the ukrainian arms services. so this is the big lie, is that there are no, not these in the ukraine, that it's all russian propaganda that use that the ukraine i, it's free and democratic, etc, etc. this isn't obvious. for 3rd, yet all me the in the west are, are cooperating and pushing the line,

the new york times the b, b. c, etc, etc. and clearly this award is part of that gigantic effort to disguise what the situation in the, in the ukraine is really about the u. s. establishment media has alleged that russia diplomatic service functions as a quote propaganda network, as it makes moscow's positions clear to the public abroad. western media outlets say russian diplomats have assumed the role of state news agencies are key and sputnik to inform the foreign public about moscow's stances after the u. s. u and u. k. restricted access to those networks, american news outlet, political has alleged that russian envoys, quote, spread bogus narratives and cannot be held liable for that because they have diplomatic immunity. all right, let's cross live now to spokesman for the russian mc in china, georgia. the your board of now. hi, how you doing? good to have you with us on this really interesting story. yeah. us media

organizations have alleged that russian diplomats are spreading propaganda. but does the western establishment merely consider all of moscow's official stances as propaganda? if they contradict the western narrative well as a sheet and press article, i read it cancel and find it quite seem to magical the western journalism. labeling russian diplomats of just to work were published on page use of the daily basis by themselves. well, they claim that the russian did was this in the face. all right, now let's see what exactly we're publishing. we published comments articles into use and references the historical materials and do it without violating the community rules, including all the social networks. we use the opportunities that are provided to all social natural uses on an equal basis, no more, no less. and we explain to the public, the main goals and objectives. so the special moves operation. well,

people asked why it was started? well, the answer is clear. to jean, don't best region, post russia to launch special notes operation. you train that strategy. that lesson need to pay no attention to for 8 years. and the more of what we publish to discover documents on the many mill 3, or if you frame that, having tracings and operated by the pentagon. the documents that describe the areas of research and piece of artillery, which are often homeless. and instead of explaining how these by that was set up and why was what they actually did there, that you asked me just as in response that all this was like, well, ok. so here's my question. there's lots of information out there, lots of new sources, lots of places, people can look on the web and, and news agencies are to, for example, what exactly gives the western establishment media the right to actually label what

is propaganda and what isn't propaganda? well this to me and the reason why they label our social media accounts and then use public. there it is pretty plain to see is just the pathetic attempts to deprive ra, show the right to speak when it's contradicts the picture, what they try to draw. but that she's so unreal and so fabricated, investment organ start to suspect something it, well frankly speaking, it's a different game, but we know there is no rules for also on both on the political and the information filled up by the way of clothes in chinese, social media were centered or deleted. more than that, they grabbed much attention, all of the just posted on chinese, the tick tock generated his and get a fly and sprawling. for example, whole to 1000000 users have also read about the way you pregnant. what talk to hate

russia? miller, not chinese left comments, all in support for russia. and by the way, at the same time, chinese social media platforms, you want to western embassies, either they don't lead me to accounts. and i believe that's fair enough. however, western embassies don't have much numbers as we do, which means they just lose in a fair contest. in all social platforms, the u. s. embassy, china got about 3 and a half 1000000 followers. european countries got more than half a 1000000 ukranian, i believe, only $100.00 solvents, whereas our embassy have almost $8000000.00 followers and it's twice as large as the american accounts. i mean, it's again that our partner simply lose on equal footing and that's why they spend no effort to limit all potential by color pretext,

then simply illness. well, that covers social media and government's concerns about that. but a russian media agencies including r t, we've been blocked in the west and now there's pressure on russian diplomats. is the west trying to make sure that only western positions are heard? well sure, let me know when they get nervous when they feel that they might lose agenda. therefore they don't some they try to attack our social media, but also both for the closure. and certainly if social information they, you remember the price out a r e been ban, although your channel has no broken and the media regulation law in the us or europe. as far as i know, they are so afraid of losing the credits or their read this and you, us, that's completely forget about regional speech and other vital institutions of democracy. they so care about. well,

i leave it. it's all with that was needed not given accurate beach and stay in shape, public opinion, exclusively for propaganda and instructions handed down from washington and native structure. well, we know that for instance, that the ukrainian side, the places tang stand out cheerily in school, in the gardens and hospitals for employees and residents. this so is use the people as human shields. however, they need it on the blind. i mean, as we've mentioned associated press the, cnn, bbc, you can use a tool for that benefit, but when it comes to the fact when more fax that is current, they just lose interest. right? ga. gov spokesman for the russian embassy in china. thank you for your thoughts.

thank you. ah, and several you member states have agreed to supply heavy artillery to ukraine, providing money for it to be purchased and joining us weaponry plan. but that contradicts provisions and several core european documents such as the u. founding treaty, or he's trying to basically explains your greatest president has the week being calling on western nations to supply his country with falling, russia and those nations have he did the cool you for example, have for the very 1st time ever finance the purchase and the delivery of weapons, ukraine, but this is potentially problematic for the you itself. as the move goes against its own rules, member states will not allow exports that would provoke prolong on conflicts or aggravate existing tensions or conflicts in the country of final destination. however, some suggest that instead of actually aiding crane,

the use decision is only fanning the flames of war, weapons won't bring stability. they will fuel further destruction and death falls from the ukrainian government and its people for arms are understandable and difficult to ignore. but ultimately arms only ever prolong and aggravate conflict. i'm the role, plenty of lessons from the history which show that pouring arms into a country that move to actually help about bring stability. nor does it necessarily even contribute to an effective resistance. the west, the leaders probably think of that said the promotion of democracy must go on. and so the ukrainian craig case can be considered one of these. and as a consequence, the european union preferred to support in such a way in the sandy new weapons rather than to insist and to promote diplomacy or negotiations. i don't think that this particular area we'll support

will be an example of political the baby because there are so many articulated and complex social political gotcha sedation within. while the, you may believe that it's doctrines just that it can also allow ukraine to for the war is now having fall wide around with occasions. it is fundamentally changed . the european folk collective defense policy under reality, but standalone in new all me is now a major consideration. hundreds of billions of years will be spent on european defense in the coming years, but will not really make the union a safer place. i think that in contemporary word, nobody to safe due to the fact that there are many new key our weapons around the world, those. but the problem is, is the fact that the do

a p and union relied on the support of net. so the challenges that i'm can be it will be the interaction between for the future european policy dispense and the role of natal in europe. it requires a long time period, a long discussion. there is also a question as to whether such actions will indeed make ukraine a safer place in the featured to the use longest military mission to stabilize another country was in moly european forces on now pulling out from that african country without mission intact is 9 years off the it began, now the weapons is supplied to the molly and all me, you remain that and then now in the hands of those that the you cannot control. and for some, this raises questions about the future of european on the,

at the moment flowing in ukraine. charlotte db sky r t. paris. a group of former us intelligence and national security officials has published a joint letter warning that breaking up the power of american big tech companies with threatened american national security in their opinion. such companies are crucial to advancing u. s. policies on a global scale u. s. technology platforms and already taken concrete steps to shine a light on russia's actions to brutalize ukraine through their efforts. the world knows what is truly happening in cities from mary paul to kia, undistorted by manipulation from moscow. in the face of these growing threats, us policymakers must not inadvertently hamper the ability of us technology platforms to counter increasing. does information and cybersecurity risks, fake news, and this information about we are told the big tech monopolies and their fact checkers are the only things protecting us from a world of lies that is so vital that the information we receive be filtered. we

are told that the intelligence agencies are now begging the government not to break up a few tech monopolies in the face of these growing threats, us policy makers must not inadvertently hamper the ability of us technology platforms to counter increasing. does information and cybersecurity risks, particularly as the west continues to rely on the scale and reach of these firms to push back on the kremlin, but recently proposed congressional legislation would unintentionally curtail the ability of these platforms to target does information efforts and safeguard the security of their users in the u. s. and globally. so what can we take from this? well firstly, big monopolies are never really a big fan of anti trust legislation and the prospect of the government breaking them apart for the good of the market. but more importantly, this appears to be solid confirmation. at this point, social media tech giants are a wing of the us state department. they even point to the same enemies, russia, and china. the united states will need to rely on the power of its technology sector to ensure that the safety of its citizens and the narrative of events

continues to be shaped by facts, not by foreign adversaries. the russian government is seeking to alter the information landscape and it has already received by in, from other like minded states such as china, pro, russia, or anti nato voices have all been banned or shadow band on social media. before that, the hammer came down on american conservatives with even donald trump, the former us president being shut down himself. these forces seem to be totally fine with altering information. they just want to be the only ones with such a license, the latest movies you tube meddling in hong kong. they seem to have decided that john lee, the only candidate running for hong kong stop position is no good. he's now calling them out. the termination reflects the flagrant hedge, a monic tactics employed by the u. s. government imposing the so called sanction on mister lee, so as to intimidate him will not in any way affect his strong determination to continue to safeguard national security. mister lee will continue to use his best efforts to reach out to the public to explain his platform and to hear their views

through many different means and channels. big sack and the u. s. government seem rather cosy these days, plenty of lucrative government contracts for silicon valley. so it appears that enforcing standard anti trust legislation and breaking up a big monopoly here. or there may actually get in the way of waging some of history's most sophisticated psychological warfare. at least they're willing to admit it. a lot muffin r t new york. say with us, we'll have more news after short break. this is our international. ah ah, ah.

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has launched a new target and kurdish rebels in northern iraq on car these this up are just milledge into the terrorist group. any long time enemy, a lot of the conflict, garnered non stop coverage back in 2019. the mainstream media has to have a little to say about it this time around. the biggest difference, while the trump administration is no longer in power and the u. s. isn't withdrawing its troops from syria was a mother, i'll take a look at it. our heroic commandos and moonbeam arrays supported by attack helicopters, unmanned aerial vehicles and armed unmanned aerial vehicles. arrived at the scene by land and by air and captured the determined targets many terrorists were neutralized. at this stage at the point we have reached all plans, targets have been captured. a vigils in the middle east have sent weeks voicing concerns about the fact that the u. s. has been so focused on ukraine. it seems to have forgotten about the part of the world that has been its main focus for more

than 2 decades. iraq is now expressing concerns over the impact turkeys latest defensive will have on the regent. the office of the republics president observes with alarm turkeys continued military operations in iraqi kurdistan and considers them a violation of the country sovereignty and a threat to national security. but resident by the campaign for office of the promise of protecting the kurdish forces in the middle east, where allies with the u. s. and his fight against isis. washington support seems to have a back rated just a few years later. of course, back in 2019 bite was running against trump when now the us to do withdrawing troops from syria after turkey. you know, plans very similar operation targeting coroner's forces. turkey will soon be moving forward with its long planned operation into northern syria. the united states armed forces will not support or be involved in the operation. and united states forces having defeated the isis territorial caliphate will no longer be in the immediate area. at the time western media responded with wall,

the wall coverage condemning the true administration, accusing them of abandoning us allies and claiming the move was to the benefit of the government in syria and russia. so where is that outraged now? and if media talking has and politicians were so quick to forget about the same kurdish allies, they one's claim were essential to stability in the middle east. then washington's other partners might think twice about teaming up with the us in washington. rachel blevins r t r t has obtained a spoken statement by a former officer in the ukrainian military apparatus for informational and psychological warfare, allegedly explaining how the secret of organization functions luck as in to the sola, nato wants ukraine to be a buffer zone. a military frontier on russia's borders within the conditions of hybrid warfare. a portion of the military actions, as they say, are conducted in the informational sphere which the psy up sources engage in. the

principal tasks of these units have focused on the dom bass republics and russia, not ukraine itself. official financing has been provided through ukraine's defense ministry, and there has also been nato funding, nato, especially the americans have attempted to root out corruption, saying all the funding provided by them must go exclusively to the state of purposes. but the ukrainian commanders like always have tried to take something for themselves. there were a couple unfortunate incidents when nato caught ukrainian generals trying to embezzle a portion of the money to build cottages. there was also no official note of protest because nato was not officially in ukraine at that time. but we saw it. we were working with them. there is a special personnel policy. with veterans from the sy ops forces become a chief editors of media outlets. and in turn, recommending staff to work in the state apparatus. there has also been close cooperation between the media and the science forces with the state essentially ordering the publication of certain materials. the main task of the science forces

is to so panic on the enemy's side to convince people that ukraine's actions are justified. and to show that the, you and nato are alliances, that all countries like ukraine should strive to join the most important aspect of their work is to degrade morale among the russian armed forces. they find a specific servicemen and right to him pretending to be his girlfriend or his mother. there is a special group tasked with finding out details about the personal lives and families of servicemen in the morning as world powers seek to restore the iran nuclear deal, the u. s. says it's concerns still have not been adequately addressed. if iran wants sanctions lifting that goes beyond the j. c p o, a, they'll need to address concerns of ours that go beyond the jcp away. they will need to negotiate those issues in good faith with reciprocity. negotiations in vienna to potentially restore the deal have been going on for about a year. now. the u. s. has rejected ron's key demand is that iran revolutionary

guard corps be removed from a terrorist blacklist so that the country can return to compliance with the nuclear agreement. iran is foreign ministry has accused us officials of purposely delaying the talks. we've heard from iranian political analyst, christopher hill, ali, who says the u. s. has waged a duplicate this policy against the nuclear deal. i believe that this is the one of the red line that you don foreign ministry has spoken about. and the listing of the lucian garden court, the i r d as the terrorist organization by the us department of state, with an escalation in an already situation. after the united states, unilaterally withdrew from b, j, u, p. o, a, the 2015 nuclear agreement. iranian foreign ministry has made it clear to vienna negotiation that they don't, they don't want to cross any of the red line. and those include the economic aspects, but also the listing of the i r,

which was that under the trump administration. so i think you will have profound effect on the ongoing negotiations. it shows the belligerents and the rogue nature of the u. s. foreign policy and the current regime that seeks to unilaterally impose its will and of course under pressure by the israel nabi, which has been hoping for no new deal and, and was behind the scenes for the reversal of the deal under the trumpet administration. i will be back with more news at the top of the hour, but before that i'm going to leave you with our t reef notion as well. she speaks with former yugoslavia colonel youngel alex to lead operations to shoot down american stealth bombers during their rates in the balkan war of the late 19 ninety's electric seas. parallels between what western influence conflict then and the current one in your crane. now the sudden alexis, mr. alexis, thank you very much for your time, ron. thank you for inviting me in that fall,

coordinate once colonel of the you this laugh air defense myself forces. now you are a retired officer, back in 1999 when nato was ruthlessly bowman belgrade you and asking serve where part of the unique operation in reach they asked 117 knight hawks. dow fighter jad of america's air forces was shut down. as far as i know, this was the only time when the air craft of that type was lost in combat. how did that happen? with richard that night, i was at the command post of the 200 and 58th air defense missile brigade, which was guarding belgrade, chief of staff. colonel dragon, stank, of which was the commander of the task force. my zone included the 3rd battalion, which was under the leadership of colonel dan, is alton. we were in touch and he was telling me what he saw in his radar. and i was relaying to him the until that i got from our control and reporting center. at some point a target appeared and the intercept zone of the 3rd battalion. and i gave danny the order to shoot it down. as i said, did you know what the target was?

yes, me and his lawyer. no, we didn't. it was just the target force. his team did a good job and the next day we found out from the news on t v that we had shot down an f 117, nighthawks, stealth aircraft, the pride and joy of the united states air force. i guess the saying is true, we just didn't know that it was supposed to be invisible. so you learned about the success of your operation from the new yes, from one new seal at that moment. cougar's pride. it's not every day that you get to shoot down a stealth aircraft. this happened for the 1st time ever. this helped on the emotional level by boosting the morale of the 3rd battalion. it remained the most successful battalion throughout the whole bombing operation. it fought for $78.00 days and didn't suffer any losses that here. yep. amazing. so as far as i understand, if he hadn't shut down the bomber,

it would have carried out its mission rate. the samo nearly almost, it was coming towards our air defense command post, but it didn't succeed on its way out. it wanted to strike the 3rd battalion and ended up being shot down. the f 170 ne has a computer that tracks its route. so we can avoid any threats, but they didn't know where our defense battalion was maneuvering and hiding. well, there was an imperative force. we were also good at diversion. some say that we used microwave ovens. those were not microwave ovens, of course, we call them radio signal imitators. other devices that they caused confusion when the used anti radiation missiles against us. we would turn on these alternative devices along with our actual raiders. these imitators drew the missiles towards themselves. so our equipment stayed safe yarn trailing any military secrets i year . is this a well known tactic? this is new political. yes, it is

a well known tactic. we didn't come up with this idea. i actually don't know. maybe we were the 1st ones to employ it, but from what i understand russians were ready to sell us these devices while we manufactured them from whatever we could get our hands on. river boat raiders, old aircraft raiders. i think that today it is a well known tactic. it happened back in 1999. yes, i see you brought a small piece of it though. yes, i brought a fragment of the f 117. a stealth aircraft. this part is from its wing. this is the so called honey come structure. it is very lightweight. this technology is well no noun. it is used in russian aircraft as well. this isn't. it does look like a honeycomb thought. yes, a honeycomb. i'm here. where do you get a did you just go to the crash site dog? oh, yes, there were lots of those fragments there, but it mostly stayed intact, didn't shatter. it was falling like a leaf. it fell in one spot and just one. when got 7, we had a hard time retrieving the swing from our roemer,

people who had collected it because of its valuable metal. they were taking it away in a wagon. they even showed it on tv. how are roma people were transporting the pride and joy of the u. s. air force ashton. what happened to the pilot? the auto pilot catapulted. he was scared of being captured, but it was in the early days of the wall. on march 27th, the war started on the 24th. it was a quiet neighborhood of belgrade. the troops were in cost of a. we only had civil defense in the area, so american just came and rescued the pilot that night. we couldn't shoot them down playfully. we're not at our range. we tried but failed. said he survived those. those of you. yes, he survived. he later visited serbia and apologized. he says he had no idea and now his opinion has changed. his origins i actually in yugoslavia slovenia his mother was from slovenia. his last name is aiko a to more and why did he change his opinion with.