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the worse you case, the worse of the worse actually. um, they don't seem to, they seem to have forgotten the, the, the terror that we had in the 1980 is of a new killer war. you remember like threads and the day after and all that, i mean we were to terrify. they don't seem to care, they seem to be immune to it. i mean, we even have members of congress a, everything's all the table, everything. you know, i mean this, rambo, type rhetoric is just, you know, it's very dangerous marco, what happened to the public. it really is very strange. the public effectually has disappeared from the discourse of the i really, real with astonishment when i have some pronouncements from u. k. positions as well as really talking about imposing no fly zones on puts in the ukraine. and so it is astonishing to me that they could it all syrian seriousness be talking about this. and we have a ready, for example, the kevin regime doesn't distinguish between a big war for itself and the big war for the world. and it seems to imagine that if it gets nature involved in a war against the russian federation,
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and that's going to be a good outcome which, which you cannot understand who they will be a little bit diluted in care. however, to c, u. k in western positions and in the us politicians joining in is, is worrying. indeed, because russia recognizes that it's complex, potentially with nature it would face the world. will ukraine use re keen on the world war? and if we have a close policy, happy to have one or indeed a rogue elements, some went down the command structure. you might decide, unilaterally to take some acts that might have conflict with this. we all are all risky world war and the population is those fall in the west paid on a die all. it's all ok and we're being be sleep boots in and that's all of it should be and we'll have a cold shallows to pay for it. that seems to be the western game plan. not a good one. i think if stanley cobra were alive, they could make a sequel to dr. strange love right now i really do. ok because we have the same
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cast of characters here. you know, john, one of the interesting russia is losing rushes, losing. well, i mean, i've talked to serious military people, there aren't serious military people on the west because they haven't want any wars . ok. they just excused themselves and they just get huge amounts of money. spent their way to lose ok in wars. they never should have fought but talking to military personnel here is that russia's barely actually committed a very little of its armed forces for the reason why we're making this program. because they do plan on that nato may start something and they're prepared for it. okay, that's why there's, they haven't had this overwhelming force or keeping almost everything in reserve because they know the thinking or the lack of thinking in nato capitals. john, go ahead. well, as far as natal capitals, let's remember. so johnson, basically a comedian biden, a senile old man. of course, you leave sky comedian as well, should owe a fox,
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a joke. so we have these western leaders in power who really are just not capable, they're not able, they should not be in those positions of power, but yet they are, which brings me to the conclusion that there is a power behind them and you can derive me the conspiracy theorists please, i don't care, but i think there is a power behind these people and the goal, and i know this is going to sound radical, but i think there go is world war 3 and maybe even nuclear war. maybe you would have to stop exp, start entertaining the idea that maybe somehow a new nazi party has as risen in the west. it's not announcing itself overtly, of course. maybe the people, the grandchildren, great grandchildren, the original losses, or maybe they just inspired by not the ideology, but we can see what they're doing. we can see where they are by the result of what they're doing in ukraine. they are psychotic, mass murderers. that is what is happening in ukraine. they knew what was going to happen. hope the russian bare for 8 years and you think it's not going to react?
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no, i'm sorry. do not blame blood report and what's happening ukraine. i put all the blame on nato on western leaders. it's going to be maybe go ahead. yeah, i was gonna say, maybe it depends on what we mean by winning washington will feel certainly in the short term, it's one of massive victories, not europe, in its pockets a supplicant. dependent in the future on energy supply, it resulted in political orientation on washington entirely. there's a new iron curtain between the europe and rock and the and russian, the russian parts of europe in a white america got everything it wanted in terms of european compliance. no street to is parked but completely for a moment. so it will show some americans make too very pleased with what they've got. they've got an outlet for sales in a huge amount that we should run with a just a vehicle on sales by the u. s. to, to member countries,
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that's its main function apart from a guy who is from the pentagon. so washington should feel or don't feel like the so please a moment. but what it doesn't factor in is what it's risky. it's, it's already lost. most of the rest of the world, which is not joining in the anti russia campaign, and it's also in danger of losing your once when to say once industries in germany become uncompetitive, because they're paying sky high prices for the energy they need to make their products once, once the thing hits the fan, then you have a different, you're going to different european attitudes. so washington is in danger of losing it all. so if i were in washington, i think he will lonesome and tried to plan for a negotiated solution. however unpleasant that might seem to the hoax they've daniel, i wish that way it could happen, but i just don't, i just simply don't. i mean, that's the rational path, because we're just kind of an extension of what we just heard from john and marco is that, you know, europe is flexing it's, it's really weak muscles, you know,
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and it feels really good about itself. but it's isolating itself from the rest of the world. the chinese are watching the child, the russians obvious are. these are not reliable people. these are not in tele and people that you can actually seriously deal with. you know that what happened between a december and in the time of the military incursion, is that the russians remember this very carefully. you can't talk to these people. these people don't tell the truth. they, they're out there. they have a different agenda all the time. and i and i, i personally think the, the peter, the great, great outreach to the west is over. it's completely, it's done. ok, because you can't trust these people. daniel, go ahead. well, i kind of expected putin to give up this morning because you know, janet yellen walked out of the russian, started speaking, and i can just imagine, mister president, you'll never guess what happened. we've got to give up, janet yell and walked out of our meeting, were so depressed. but you know, of peter more seriously. i spent over
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a decade working in the washington foreign policy establishment. and the one thing that i found most astonishing is the absolute absence of intellectual curiosity among foreign policy practitioners. mean this is an absolute bubble in d. c. they read a couple of newspapers. they only speak to each other. they don't have any dealings with anyone who has different kinds of views. they never certainly want to talk to me because i read things that weren't approved. you know, i didn't only read the washington post and the wall street journal. and so you have a group of people who live in a bubble, who talk only to each other in the same language. they basically are spending the entire lives getting high on their own supply. and that's why you, one of the reasons i think you have such a crappy u. s. foreign policy. it, john, you know, it's, it's very interesting because this, this, this elite mentality and it comes from virtue signaling, you know, something must be done. well, i mean, they'd so easy to say that ok, but the consequences of that we've seen that repeatedly, syria, libya, and the,
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you know, everything was going well in afghanistan until it wasn't going well. i mean, there's no learning curve here whatsoever. and it's, as it's been pointed out in the program already, is it policies that are be made in london in washington. brussels are affecting western citizens now. energy, food. i mean, this is something the 1st time in my life, and this is happened. and i have to believe that's going to create instability. that's where you get to see they the apple cart turnover in it's not going to be pretty john. yes, that's possible. i mean, i guess your question is, will there be some mass discontent in riots and i mean, it's certainly as possible, but the amount of social control here is, is tremendous and growing every day. and they're starting to implement something that resembles that social credit system. and a lot of americans are indebted and they're on the hook as you would say. and there's a lot of ways to exert control over the american people in the european people. and
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of course, the mass media is the greatest tool of social control us because there's so much pressure to conform. you don't even, i can't even say public that i once used to live in russia. if i would say that i simply lived in russia, i don't have to even voice any, any support for russia. the fact that lived in russia is compromising is enough to get me a lot of trouble here today. so i just say i live in eastern europe, i have to hide that fact. so it's, remember the mass media is a tremendous amount, a tremendous tool, and the government's ability to control the population in europe. and in the us say, you know, marco, i'm glad the john said that. i've lived in russia for about 24 years. and even, you know, even with this going on now, nato, when people have watch the nato's aggression, as an american living here in russia, i have no animosity directed to me whatsoever. 0, i'm a, i'm a foreigner, i wear a funny bow tie. and people are friendly to me, they want to be there, you know,
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actually overly friendly and you know, i, and i always feel the really sad that when i have my russian friends from r t that would go to washington or london. and they were treated in a very shabby way, and i just thought it's really interesting is that at one side hates and the other one simply won't go ahead marco, i think traditionally, russia and east european audiences have come about duration for america. kind of cultural imperialism, same, but there was a lot of liking in preschool. the idea is represented by the u. k. and the us and it's not endemic in the, in the psyche. we need an educational system, all the russians to really pull school. and this ritual on the alba, which the supposedly pro diversity system of the you can the u. s. is so keen on doings. i mean, there is this off of the main rush and the brand name is, is accompanied by hatred pretty much and it's a full on now,
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because the russians have chosen to exercise their use of force without waiting for the americans to approve of it, which is what the americans have been doing all over the world for no good reason whatsoever. the russians have done it for a very good reason. and on that point, they are gentlemen, we have run out of time. fascinating discussion here. i want to thank my guess in new york, london, and in lake jackson, and thank our viewers for watching us here at our dc you next time. remember across the world news i me, i lou needs to come to the russian state. total narrative type as i'm phoning those landscape div,
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asking him american host all sons and up with the group in the 55 when. okay, so 9 is $25.00. i'm speaking with ben in the european union, the kremlin community up machine, the state on russia today, and split our t spoke neck, even our video agency, roughly all band on youtube and pinterest and with me only one main thing is important for naziism, internationally speaking, that is that nations because that's allowed to do anything, all the mazda races,
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and then you have the minor nation, so other slaves, americans, proc obama and others have had a concept of american exceptionalism. international law exist as long as it serves american interest. if it doesn't, that those are the groups by turning those russians into this dangerous boy, man that wants to take over the world. that was a conscious strategy, was and walked out of it on your own english v i n b. i nod, felicia stood off to exhibit in tablet block. nato said it's ours. we moved east. the reason us had germany is so dangerous, is it the law? the sovereignty of all the countries? the exceptionalism that america uses and it's in national war planning is one of the greatest threats to the populations of different nations. if nature, what is valid shareholders in the united states and elsewhere in large arms,
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companies would lose millions and millions wars, business and businesses. good, and that is the reality of what, what we're facing, which is fashion. and alexis, mr. alexis, thank you very much for your time. you on thank you for inviting me in that fall coordinate, once colonel of the you this laugh air defense, myself forces. now you are a retired officer back in 1999 when nato was ruthlessly bowman belgrade you and asked think serve where it part of a unique operation into each. they ask 117 ny talks, tao fighter jad of america's air forces was shut down. as far as i know, this was the only time when the aircraft of that type was lost in combat. how did that happen with richard? that nice. i was at the command post of the $200.00 and 15th air defense missile brigade, which was guarding belgrade. chief of staff, colonel dragon,
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stank of each, was the commander of the task force. my zone included. the 3rd battalion, which was under the leadership of colonel danny's alton. we were in touch and he was telling me what he saw in his radar. and i was relaying to him the until that i got from our control and reporting center. at some point, a target appeared and the intercept zone of the 3rd battalion. and i gave danny the order to shoot it down. now did you know what the target was? yes, mean is lol it no, we didn't. it was just to target force. his team did a good job and the next day we found out from the news on t v that we had shot down an f 117 night hawk stealth aircraft. the pride and joy of the united states air force, i guess the saying is true, we just didn't know that it was supposed to be invisible. so you learned about the sas of the authorization from the new yes, from our new seal at that moment. cougar's pride, it's not every day that you get to shoot down a stealth aircraft. this happened for the 1st time ever. this helped only emotional
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level by boosting the morale of the 3rd battalion. it remained the most successful battalion throughout the whole bombing operation. it fought for 78 days and didn't suffer any losses at his high here. yeah. amazing. so as far as i understand, if he hadn't shut down the bomber, it would have carried out its mission rate. the sambal nearly on as it was coming towards her air defense command post. but it didn't succeed on its way out. it wanted to strike the 3rd battalion and ended up being shot down the f. 170 ne has a computer that tracks its route so it can avoid any threat. but they didn't know where our defense battalion was maneuvering and hiding. well, there was an imperative force. we were also good at diversion. some say that we used microwave ovens, those were not microwave ovens, of course, we call them radio signal imitators. other devices that they caused confusion when
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they used anti radiation missiles against us. we would turn on these alternative devices along with our actual raiders. these imitators drew the missiles towards themselves, so our equipment stayed safe here and trailing any military secrets i year. is this a well known tactic? as is new, political? yes, it is a well known tactic. we didn't come up with this idea. i actually don't know, maybe we were the 1st ones to employ it. but from what i understand russians were ready to sell us these devices while we manufactured them from whatever we could get our hands on. river boat raiders, old aircraft raiders. i think that today it is a well known tactic. it happened back in 1999. yes, i see you brought a small piece of it though. yes, i brought a fragment of the f 117. a stealth aircraft. this part is from its wing. this is the so called honeycomb structure. it is very lightweight. this technology is well known noun. it is used in russian aircraft as well. this is all about it does look
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like a honeycomb thought. yes, a honeycomb. i'm here, where do you get a? did you just go to the crash site? god? oh yes, there were lots of those fragments there, but it mostly stayed intact. it didn't shatter. it was falling like a leaf. it fell in one spot and just one. when got severed, we had a hard time retrieving the swing from our roemer, people who had collected it because of its valuable metal. they were taking it away in a wagon they even showed it on t. v. how our roemer people were transporting the pride and joy of the u. s. air force. and what happened to the pilot the all the pilot catapulted. he was scared of being captured, but it was in the early days of the wall on march 27th. the war started on the 24th . it was a quiet neighbourhood of belgrade. the troops were in cost of a. we only had civil defense in the area. so american just came and rescued the pilot that night. we couldn't shoot them down playfully. world moto range. we tried but failed, said he survived those, those are you?
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yes, he survived. he later visited serbia and apologized. he says he had no idea and now his opinion has changed. his origins i actually in yugoslavia slovenia, his mother was from slovenia. his last name is aiko a to more. and why did he change his opinion with time though? i don't know. he met with danny's alton and in that meeting he said that bombing yugoslavia was a mistake. i don't know if he was sincere me, uncle. why did you shut down only one plane, the raleigh. i think we shot many more. my brigade responded to enemy alerts 51 times, but those planes flew at 10000 meters and serbia isn't very wide. so those aircraft that we're head often managed to land outside our territory. they denied being shut down and we couldn't prove anything. some planes even made it back to their home air drums. they said there was an aircraft boneyard at the vienna air base, according to their instructions. damaged planes were no longer allowed to go and
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mission. so as i say, ethan i switch, moscow has always been stressing that the current conflict in ukraine has a lot to day with native expansion east to. and i'll say, do you see any parallels between what's happening today and what was happening in survey and the balkans 20 years ago? yes. who of course i do. there are very obvious parallels. i think what they did in yugoslavia was in preparation for a conflict with russia. they used us as a training ground to practice how to break up russia just like they broke up yugoslavia. i see that everything that had happened in yugoslavia is happening here now. for example, all these fake reports that i see everywhere now we had the same, there were used during yugoslav was 2 only back then we couldn't do anything about them. they did it to demonize serbia and all these fake reports were used as a pretext to bomb yugoslavia, such as the russia massacre, which was a fake. if the twin brother of the butcher massacre fake russian television has
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compared to the case of this lebron, it's a massacre, but the events and cerebral in its are were different. you can't compare them in strawberry inn, it said there was a group of fighters whose deaths were presented as a as a crime. no, that's the thing, not just to crime a case of genocide. suddenly there was a crime committed there to some serbian soldiers who engaged in that fight, took revenge after their families had been killed when lots of serbians died. that was a crime and were aware of that. but there was no genocide, not a single woman or child was killed there, only men who were fighting. and they made a memorial cemetery there and have been bringing the remains from all over bosnia and herzegovina to bury their, to make a really big number of graves. they love us. so what do you thing happened in the ukraine in town of buttah? vegas was like, it's a fake. i know everything about what happened there. i saw it. you showed it how 1st the dpr militia was there and how all was fine. and then how the nazi fighters
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said they need to kill everyone wearing white arm bands. i don't know why they didn't remove those white arm bands. some questioned who those people were. if they wore yellow arm bands that would raise questions about who they were. and the mayor of butcher was very happy when the russian troops left a cape when the russian tropes left the city, the ne, a, paste it in the days indeed lucky yours. and he wouldn't be so happy if such a massacre had occurred. the same things happened and serbia and everyone and serbia knows what really happened while you see what the west is saying about the same events. no speaking about asli, they teams nater had some success there. florrie, yugoslavia is small and had no support at the time. we had no allies, we were the only european nation that had to fight the american troops after world war 2. is the vacation, different to day warrior was today, the situation is different rushes well prepared. it's one of the major world powers
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. i believe that the u. s dominance has come to an end. russia must win ago. he said, you think russia will win? what outcome would be considered a victory for russia? thank you. i don't mind. i think russia's command is doing a great job there. ukraine is a proxy of the western, it's warren, russia, naziism and fascism are on the rise in the west western democracy these days is nothing but naziism. in essence, the as of battalion was trained by israel. it's now and they were trained by native instructors. yeah, that's right, the same jews who were victims during world war 2 today are training nazi fighters . i have friends in israel who think this is an acceptable dissertation on the ground as dramatic, of course, with lots of shelling, firing, death, and destruction. but there is also a massive information more going on. you mentioned before they send to you that you can't find a way to follow our teen english al sputnik anywhere that co now that's true. not in english was band. sputnik and serbian isn't band,
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but it's been the target of endless d dos attacks and i haven't been able to read it even once. i follow our teen russian every day was on how he's winning and who is losing this information or in your opinion? lovejoy the party, the sleeping, the information wolf is in fact, losing on the ground because the only thing they can do is produce fakes. we are a cartoon published once with one russian soldier saying to another with a sad face. we've lost the information war after the battle to take control of the white house in washington dc. time will show who was right, who's cause was just and who's wasn't hours is a just cause victory will be hours, especially with the coin optimism. thank you for being so optimistic. miss alexis, many countries to day face edge, a magic pressure re, they're being pushed to choose whether they are on the russia side on ukraine's survey. it does feel that it's pressure to for sure. yet, despite all the consequences and risks the survey might face because of its
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disobedience, they, serbian people and leadership support russia. how do you know that you are on the right side? with throughout the entire period of mood and history, i see connections. everything that happened 1st in serbia happened later in russia, and when it started, it was never our fault. the majority of serbians consider russians, a brotherly nation. i don't know why, but i know that's how we all feel. we're brothers one big nation. so to say we're even called little russians of the balkans and that's no wonder. and that's just how it is. you can see that all other nations that were once liberated by russia's red army and were once parties to the warsaw pact and now on the opposite side against russia. no one has ever to serbia. that's just how we feel that serbians and russians are brothers forever. watching like if he wouldn't have fortune. meanwhile, i can say to day, if he would agree with you or sarah bear or official moscow,
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do you think they can come back one day later with apologies like that pilot of the fight and that you shut down dead? can they come to say they just saw it all wrong? no, i don't know. these are just one of cases in serbia. we also have the 5th column, just like in russia. it's a big problem for us. why are the west uses the 5th column to try and control us? it's really active these days. people say this means that our president has chosen the right policy. we can all easily go out in the streets and chant our support for russia, but it's much harder for our leader. we are surrounded by hostile nato member states. how can we survive and such environment? is it i carry it? we fought and many was, there was a time, i didn't believe a major will. could ever happen again, but then i had to fight into conflicts. my father died in 1993 and sorry ever, we don't want any more, was serbia's population is shrinking. each new war took half of what had been left
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of us after the previous one. there aren't many serbs left here ration is really good. where do you learn it? while i'm self taught one? it was your well them? yes, i did until here 2000 i could barely say a few words. and then i said to myself, i have to learn russian can to call the cell. my souls desire is the slider culture that we share. it's the science, technology arts. it's a great civilization for me. russian language was due to the russian culture and science. i have a technical education. all the books i couldn't read before. later became available on the internet. i wanted to read the russian classics in the original. i read anna karenina, the brothers karamazov and serbian, and russian simultaneously to teach myself. and then we all got internet and cable tv, and it helped me with my pronunciation. i had no speaking practice. this is the 1st time in great job, mr. alexis, i haven't ever talked so much in russian until recently, especially romanus,
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alexis, thank you so much for your time. i wish you and all of us peace, the sooner the better go away. thank you. ah. oh was recently munoz cards and that if you speak russian, keep your voice down while out and about a quarter. don't put your human symbols on display a guy. so you guys don't talk to strangers. i avoid noisy
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gatherings and rallies with your colleagues and perhaps also your friends think you're guilty because you'll russian a specific social consignment. mm. oh. when i was a kid, an engagement equals the trail. when so many find themselves worlds
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