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this, our story is let me remind you, our website as you covered all this fresh content lively debate to be find there. this is our teachers with hello and welcome to cross and politicians refuse to say the quiet part out loud. the conflict in ukraine actually has little to do with ukraine itself, this conflict, russia, this means when the war is over,

it will be on moscow's terms, any time. ah, just i guess here in moscow, dmitri so far, he's the deputy director in an international studies at the higher school economics . and we have the center of political strategic analysis strap poll gentlemen, and i always appreciate it. well, let's start. i went to meet the meeting it's i found a really curious on the last couple of new cycles. we have the ukranian prime minister saying the war. they're winning the war and they will win the war if one of the biggest cheerleaders of this conflict. a country within nato, the british prime minister boris johnson in many ukraine, is most likely going to lose this war here. so, i mean, can you kind of square the british prime minister doesn't think this war is going to be one on terms that he find doing it because it's in this fighting a war to the last ukrainian you're, i fully agree a national the west is religious this war

until the last ukrainian because this war is indeed multiple to this war is about getting russia out from the position of great power. and thus restoring the leadership of the united states and the west. the war has already contributed to consolidation of the western restoration of american dominance in europe in a way, which was unprecedented over the last, i will say 30 years. it is really about american lives. this really about such an international water in which the united states is position as a global leader. us, whether you agree in the near future or in the long term future. i mean, ukrainians die. it really doesn't matter. the purpose is to enforce process militarily

economical or undermine it political or thus the west is interested in this war going on as long as possible. it is very, i important that we have not heard any direct and explicit war from the united states that they support disagreements that they want to piece agreement as soon as possible. you know, there was some speculation about that, let's say from paris, mac wrong, told a few supports the disagreement also forced out of the, you know, the leaders who made the bias, russia, china, india. they all claim the peace agreement as soon as possible, but more from the united states of the major ones from the united states. because this is the regular offices. the interest is endless. combination of this war and can i, station of ukraine. thus we're face in greece. all the supplies or

items that we face constant pressure over over the world for countries to reduce their corporation with russia. and we're facing further increases in survey and it was interesting. the new cranium president zalinski a couple of days ago said that i guess he make, he can make demands right now. he wants the west to pay ukraine, civil servants salaries and $7000000000.00 a month or something like when you want them or to keep going. you know, and i mean, that sounds like a really good grip here. but on a more serious note, i think it's kind of counter intuitive because we get, we have the ukrainian side saying, these are the mariel, you know, mary, also we will not be in negotiations and negotiations if this happens here. the say of december, january and february,

when the russians were trying to communicate with the west, but negotiate with the russians. basically as i said in my terms, i mean they're not the, i get it, you know, the west and russia and even the ukrainians are kind of, you know, walked away from their own age and get engaged in some kind of negotiation. presumably would be in their in stubborn a phys lensky and the state will be worse. for instance, months ago for ems from russia was clear, it was the notification, the mail from the korean side recognized chris in but 2 days ago, it just changed already. so no russia, they will take control of the source part of the, of ukraine. so, so nose or russia is clearly talking about creating on the last year, the worst, the worst nightmare for the west end to west. the, can't understand the current situation. and something is,

were interesting as well. and i saw it on the, on the french channel that the expand has during a almost 2 months is as the russian army destroyed within one to finish before the 9th of may. and it couldn't do it and put in never said and is a put in order minister, mystery of of defense never said that. they want to finish on the 9th of my and know what it explains, an army, but we are going to take the house of ukraine. and if you continue what it means, so you. so the 1st proposal was refused. so this is the 2nd one is worth of the 1st, and if you don't understand the worse, so we will take both side of the stone politic from the, from the west, from, from that to. because of course, it's not a war between russia and ukraine in ukraine. that's exactly what happened. no. dmitri, one of the way, i look at this here,

a lease from the ukranian western side. this is from pain because the, this is, there is a propaganda victory. because a military one metrical one of the things i find very curious, like why should we assume that these armchair generals in 30 years, they understand brushes, war aims, other than those 2 goals are very intentional. they don't really show them always said to people and i get a lot of push back, obviously, is that you the, the, the, the russian side has in mind for you crisis of the military campaign. and so if you don't understand the in game well for, i think that no matter how much will not be able to radical shift the balance of power i am, there is no way for your brain even with all the military, you know, with sharing it. so it's just impossible and this makes the western position so

cynical because they understand her, you know, either sooner or later. but if i and they're just extending this, anthony, i more people on both sides to die and more because of course they also are still appear on the propaganda side. india is one of the very few instruments of power, which is a way to last me a little bit ago and they are a nation global resort currency and exchange. got all of there also was a political dominance before us raises china, india, brazil, middle east. they, they're actually strengthening their relations. so the only instrument which is still in almost full possession of the west is information created in the global media. and they're doing a lot of the narratives that they create nothing to do with reality. because i

remember the original russian m j. s complete and was talking about that. i was supposed to fall in 24 hours and all that, you know, exactly. i mean, i find it really astounding. if we look at afghanistan, we look at a rack. we look at syria, how these people can even show their face in public. ok. look, look at the fall of kabul. everything was fine in afghanistan until it was it. okay . and these people are talking about what rushes military ames or, i mean, i've never understood why any kind of occupation of kids would be necessary at all . ok. and now your wife says, you know, we will not allow ross or to or to buy the whole of your grade over there. well, direction to occupy your grade, especially provided. i mean, even the very limited number of thoughts the brush is using in your brain. very

limited. ok, but oh no, but there are shortages and they're asking china for hell. a, you know, actually what, what did russia started? an operation in 4 direction 0 observed, and this saw that in a 3 direction of things going very well and very quick, very fast. so there's a decided to concentrate the forces in the place where it's a, it's a most easier it's, it's your rule. it's nothing surprising, it's doesn't mean that the doesn't want to, to the says if there is a failure in the north of credit is completely different. but you see the difference between the, the root forces and the russian forces. is that the rican forces lead by the communication team that the recent rise of the sacrifice with troops in the middle pole there refused to if i could them to fight in another line. ok, this is what a military i should have done. but in russia is exactly the country for break. and

after that hard break, we'll continue our discussion on ukraine. stan ah, who is the aggressor today? i'm authorizing the additional strong sanctions today. russia is the country with the most sanctions imposed against it. and number those constantly growing, figure which of the problem was to call sure, as we speak on the bill in your senior, mostly mine the wish you were banding all imports of russian oil and gas news. i know they, franky with russia, has destroyed the american economy. you so there's

a robot must obey the orders given by human beings, accept this law, show your identification. we should be very careful about artificial intelligence. at the point obviously is to place trust i would like to take on various job with artificial intelligence. we have so many with most protective phone existence with oh, we're all things considered. i'm peter lavelle. this is the home edition remind you were discussing some real news. ah, let's go back to the idea here in moscow, we were talking about the how russia is pursuing opperation in ukraine and i,

we had to go to a break. so finish up. go ahead. yeah, i just did, tina leading the ukraine forces outgoing communication team. that's the reason why the sacrifice troops in my you paul, when they were able to move them up to the west to fight again, but they don't want to lose my up. what exactly. i'm comparing hitler was in his queue. ok, just a point of view, a variation exactly as the same that it can refuse to move the german troops in the baltic countries because said, but if we move the about to countries means that we lost the war. and so as the reserve, the russian go to belin and the german demand trucks couldn't to fight any more does the end of the war. so it's exactly the same. on the contrary, on the russian forces, this is the military were leads operations. and you saw that, for instance, in kiff, of course, on the honor communication point of view, it was a fellow for russia because a kiff could pretend that they start to control infancy then that's all. but

actually in writing a put in doesn't care of that illegally gives the lead to the military. and so that the 1st is to bring them to the for the men operation. the men of derision is the east of quinn for to reason. first of course is the question of liberating gun bus. and the 2nd point it because the army zucker arm you were about to invade dawned, us is all concerted on this, this place. and again, zalinski and of course, is our sponsors. there doesn't want to move the recurrent army to move them to the west to try to, to build a new line of defense. there will lead them a hand in several. don't ask in you see chance? it's love, just because i don't want to lose the communication. we're but underwritten size. i don't care of losing. i mean, exchequer. we're, when there will be in the pub, it was in or in odessa at such a good point in time. you know, me go back to dmitri here. i mean, you know,

obviously it's my job to cover western media on this topic. and i've been, you know, unlike western media, i've been covering this ever since the, my, the qu on my don in 2014. and so the context is very real and meaningful to me. and it's obviously for both of you here. but the, this, there's very little commentary about who is, who has influence of the in regime. and can we have these a soft group? we have private sector. we have, we have a really maligned group groups of people that are turned into freedom fighters, which in fact they are not ok in the intelligence service. they s u b, even before the military conflicts started on february 24th of this year. there was scathing criticism of their behavior as a secret police, very much along the lines of the stars in east germany. please tell us a little bit more about that because that's really

a black hole in the coverage of this conflict. or 1st, i will read it, discuss the issue of the west grading narratives, which are very little with the reality of the narrative. democratic government in ukraine is precisely why you know, because 1st again, joe biden is wired, lou talking about the democratically elected government to new grade. here we have to be are in mind that the current regime in your grade immersed as a result of it as a lot of cool. right? so yet physical is in the ascii was elected, but the whole regime came to power mode as a result most through a credit process. and secondly, especially already before the beginning of the russian special operation. but especially when we've missing

a very red cross formation of this current gear towards a staunch dictate, i will say, comparable to the theater ships and central asia, the previous t k. most even today, we're going to what we're viewing political part as being a political rivals been put into prison, or maybe the torture persecuted, right? all the opposition is being burned down completely. any one, both among the political elite in the society who does not share the mainstream is being interrogated and persecuted, right? then people are in danger. they can no longer have to point out to me is that the media has been nash virtually on media, has been nationalized. and so there is no freedom of speech

in the part of the brain which is under the control of the machine right now. and this is the real thing we just completely missed by the west who continue to create the picture of the struggle, you know, between the bad it's been so hold off right there in russia. and so my credit cream, you know, in fact it does not match the reality of exam. yay! yes, i would like to add that there is 2 men. opponents. 2 are lensky. the 1st one is maybe the truck is in jail. the 2nd one is a natalie sherry is in excel in spain, and oh, and actually it, and it didn't stop because of the war because a year ago already zelinski close 3 tv channel. because there were a provision is supposed to be production channel. and there was supposed to belong

to me, which hook? and actually it took sanctions, again is all citizen. so know the care for him is origin when you can send people to j, you can a sits without any court just taking the decision from the with because the prince decided, and the prince know, is a lensky. so of course, it's not a democracy, is just a, it's just addicted to a country. because of course, when you should not agree you will be interrogated. and what is interesting is what happens know, in the source of ukraine. we're the region where the russian immediately the control, i mean a person region and to sort of the origin knows there is a military civilian administration from the russian side. and people are very happy using rouble. they can again speak russian in the street in the school. in the university. we don't been being

a 3 than we are getting penalties. so in my opinion, is that the russian need to do, and i would like another example, if you allow me know that the city of cooper and is about and was immediately taken by the russian. because the local store, anything we will cooperate with you and what did the is beer is his daughter and the threatened him. and so he and you can find it easily on the internet saying that he for what will happen to his daughter. so this is a low level, you know, look at the look at some adventure when you were sewn by c s b u, it was kidnapped, i think maybe 3 weeks ago. and it's clearly that the, the condition where he leaves know, are very hard for him. showing the domain, again, is a main, zalinski is open and look at him. it's exactly, it is a symbol of a gypsy regime. he's know,

a part of the narratives. the dmitri has been mentioned on this program already. it is actually again, very counter intuitive. so the west sanctions, russia sanctioned, like no other country. and we've talked about sanctions on iraq, north korea been right, lation, a supply chains and, and it's also the religions as a you, thanks unit you cause all these problems for your own people. it's what, what is the book price? i, it's, i like to call it here. i mean, it, this is really just a propaganda campaign, because if you get down want to cut off russian energy. so you take that energy off the market, the price goes up, you mean russians make more money for? i mean, they think about these ideas because the more they push, the more they hurt them having a very difficult time because i think personally there's going to be a because of this, this is, and the sanctions, no matter what happens or not going to go away any time soon? metering, well, i say that this process of social or, you know,

the inflation and all you do not, it stays is unprecedented for the last 3 decades. i am, it's going to be worse. no better or worse, the us, the western plight. worse is the the master condition, but also the worse is the state of the look on here. no strikes me is for instance, the latest statement by the minister of finance of the g. several claims are ridiculous. the sign in a way that they're very a, i mean this is just a staunch line from precisely the and by russian sanctions. and the result of increase of their price is the major reason behind the increase of the price. no,

because we started the car school of economics and over the last 50 years there is absolute depend, direct, absolute dependence on oil and the price. you know, they just follow on breast and unrest and social and rest. of course, a famine in the 3rd world in ever a game already know of the g. 7 countries are trying to put the blame on russia. whereas in fact, they are the responsibility because it is their attempts to establish new oil embargo on russia, which results into the price. right. and uh, i liked it local to finish on this, we just uh the reports coming out of the u. k. now that the upcoming winter of things remain the same is that they're going to be extreme fuel insecurity for the

average britain, who would have thought that for a g 7, g, 20 country. but that's where we are gentlemen. as all the time we have, i want to thank my guest here in mosque. i want to thank our viewers for watching us here to see you next time. remember with aah! russia opens a humanitarian corridor. also in the program this, our vladimir putin acute we look into chilling words of warning from.