tv Documentary RT April 26, 2022 9:30pm-10:01pm EDT
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ah, with mm hm. welcome towards the part, an old chinese saying suggest that it is better to be a dog in times of tranquillity than human in times of change. a proposition that many of us may test out soon as the world we knew just a few years ago, rapidly disintegrates what is likely to emerge in its place. well, to discuss it are now joined by when. when's executive dean of the chung young institute for financial studies? dr. when it's great to talk to you. thank you very much for your time. thank you for helping me. now. johnny scully's are not known for their excessively dramatic assessments, but i noticed a lot of them, including yourself,
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warning about the danger over major war, perhaps have been a global war involving nuclear weapons. what made you reach such an ominous conclusion? so actually my a fish, now it in the increase often with that meeting is no longer regional. it is a, a whole walk. it certainly i will to walk. so the western fashion continued to increase or can only be forced to us. so this is the what i barrier
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waterhouse. i'm also a s a, a more dangerous moment. now there's been a lot of talk about the so called asian pacific pivot in the bottom administration . and in the previous ones as well. they tried to extricate themselves painfully and sometimes very clumsily from the middle east, from afghanistan, only to be embroiled in europe. do you think these are they speaking of allied with russia over ukraine was deliberate or has the west essentially stumbled into this conflict? the man, you got a, a, a, a, a,
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me, a, a stretch wrap. so if it's getting late. so this is very important. why many, a long, many chinese russia have been buying a long time and i have to find a wreck. this is why each other nowadays, many, many people a class and it's a point where the, i know from the article that many in china also sympathize very strongly with the people of ukraine and they're suffering. and i have to say that many russians are very, very greatly opposed by that. but you want to describe ukraine as having the body of a strong man and the fate of a servant girl and gender insensitive politically incorrect. it may
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sound to western air. i think it's hard to deny, given how poorly ukraine has been able to benefit from both his strategic position and it's natural resources. and i think to some extent it's very similar to afghan is some because i've got some essentially located within a region continent. it has very meet resources, but all that did it more harm than good fault is that both in the case of agreement perhaps even in the case a from janice then with a 200 yes. i love a tragedy in those middle sized countries or small countries for you, me a call. and we call just to why i called a. but the yes,
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those countries and media all small size, cannot be out of the countries in may county because it has a policy. so you agree that it should be a breach between the east. a bought another server to go there and need to. now a tool for us to, for you. all right? so i see now do you mean this is for wall with a copy? so i'm there to you, or maybe a copy of may become the police and worse
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country. now, you said before that the essential, i believe that russia was pushed into this military operation by natives containing encroachments i didn't put in hold off their eyes. this operation, his last visit brought wants to china, and it was a very interesting in my view visit because the reason delegation of food in the morning they had a day full of meetings and a lot in the evening. and there must have been something very, very important in those personal meetings to justify, you know, travelling such large distances for such a short period of time. do you think the chinese were informed of the russian intentions to launch this operation? i know that there is no way of knowing it, for sure. perhaps only present she in prison, couldn't know that, but what's your intuition on that q? now with a
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right, i mean there were some important talks behind the scenes with a e. i a to a lot of china issues and i need an answer whether that time a mission to try. but now i'm very concerned, and that is not a bench with that, you know, a very, very obvious and a complete time for me. you did not out of the chinese embassy you to please why. so these approved at, at to china?
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no. to choose so good. there are people complain about it. why we need a hand, we understand it, because we believe that the china, we believe that the country has a lot to do with us. now, despite this, i'm beginning on whether or not china was informed about russia's intentions. i think we would agree that even before this military operation, the relationship between russia and china was growing close over the last couple of months. i think it became even tighter. and while the chinese side is still trying to project a neutral line, you know, projecting that neutral line in and of itself is a sign of independence. it's not citing explicitly with,
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with the american head gentleman, do you think that is intentional? so i'm a u. s. 2 session watch to the fast now, do you know, was a country population not a washer. a washer in front of you can not so any progress, but we'll only ha, all know her order. china has always a post america. we have a lot of country, a
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treaty or war a doctor, one for now. the active fighting is still contain to ukraine and we all hope that it will stay that way. although the ripple effects from this confrontation already south around to well, what could possibly make because still it is spread further and trend the military operation from a local regional one into a global outbreak of violence. a very interesting you a, b, a, c, a, b, a, b?
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is there a power point? so now the time we want to, we push a 2 and a camera concentration. a yes. now you mentioned a prison she and he was also talking about humanity being the one big ship and having to face crashing ways together. is that throwing anyone overboard would present a major problem for you know, everybody, but i need to need a very chinese matter for i do think the american quite clearly in turned
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on thinking rush, i'm in there. no. not hiding it. they want to, you know, push russia under what do you think they're likely and, you know, to listen to your perceive that, that you from china were well with that being on the same shit. and now, man a, now to a war 5 is happening. so now a, so now we need to be done is to, i, man,
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not just the whole country. you know, you can't even imagine a whole universe and you know, and 100 all there. and our country is back to us. what happens and a not a united the address. so if a history ok, well, uh around we have to take a very short break right now, but we will be back in just a few moments. mm mm for ah
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welcome back to well the park with when executive dean of the chung institute for financial studies doctor, when you are a very serious scholar. but in one of your articles, speaking about this and going danger of a global war on, you mentioned that curious sense i would say graham, numerical kind of systems that this some of every 2 digits of the starting date of 128th of july 1914 what's you and the 1st of september 1959 and the russian ukrainian conflicts 24th of february of 2022 are the same. they all go down to number 5. and i know the traditional chinese philosophy assigns a lot of significance to number ology, but i wonder if your sound see any meaning in this. a weird
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coincidence. a major history or history. there can be a use all the records in the future for you. all numbers. a student in your office is that you can use this whole is not a p a p. if referring wall. it did. so now is there a lot like to push the wall or prefer walls and or not? you also, i think just the experience. so now the best way
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to start a war now, if i'm not mistaken, there's another kind of saying that suggests that the best war is the war enough for us. and obviously, the chinese trying to navigate that relationship with the united states, the best they can. you wrote your sound that for now at least you have been able to avoid, you know, falling into a cold war trap. do you think that they still in danger when it comes to the united states and china, or do you think that conflict with russia? you know, this indirect conflict with russia so far will keep washington b, a for a couple of years. a nation's having a boy is a,
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all a is all, you know, try to join the. so however, earlier this is you start history. and so now they pad and the best way to, to mandy is to start to was i have more too many a why fi? who not die? and maybe i i'm very aware that they anita, don't like the comparison of the ukrainian situation to that all tie one because of b insistence on the one china policy. but i'm sure you know, that president might, in the bottom administration on the other administrations to have promised her support for, for k u,
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how ukraine was treated by the american security wise. the fact that they have essentially been, you know, abandoned in the time of great need. do you think those promises of american support worth anything? yeah. each on each other a trying to for all, you know, we all agree. we see a, do you think that you yes, you agree to badness law and we can look at that time and this is very, very, a very small. and they think it easier to see. can you the same way to badness? chinese we are and we can find
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a lot you will be are here is very f u r c a r a s. they verify that the law is all use. so how long is it got it all the i state to contain to why i thought that a so me a now are thinking about ukraine. it's well known that the ukraine is one of the world's leading exports of agricultural goods. and as he rode recently more than 14 countries, i'm more than 25 percent dependent on the cranium with improve. i'm sure the russians are kenya aware of that own responsibility before the 30 countries. they do a know, especially those who are dependent on the ukraine. i experience,
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but do you think realistically, it is now within russia ability to ensure that the spring sewing season begins as it should and that it continues as it should so that to minimize the burden on the rest of the world. because in addition to this war, we also have, you know, many seasons of drought, locust, and asians, and many other factors that are affecting the production of food. so actually a china or russia, especially tree. a lot of that, i mean, a monetary warehouse a
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and also a with 2 or people. so now the whole world is the, was the war is a p, a h, b, a. so we have 2 of the other countries, washington for now, and we seem to believe that internalizing russia, you know, any means to justify the goal and, you know, it already led to, steve increases in commodity prices for many companies to alter action change. do you think that the world is likely to take it as it is? you know, the mind is always right. or do you think it may provoke some counter reaction from
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other countries to make the americans to force the americans to understand that you know, it's not ok to force others to carry the burden of their decision. they may take whatever action necessary as the russian out, you know, forcing other countries to, to do the same or more and more people, a countries, b, a c. or you can move it all through the speed it a country in country or injury to countries. a and ok, so i, we all b,
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p, i a not a look to run. i think it would agree that many countries, i mean i've heard it from a lot of my guess from around the world. they all believe that the americans have demonstrated selfish behavior. but up until recently, very few countries have any diplomatic or economic or even political force to resist that behavior. do you think that momentum, maybe building to something more productive? right now, for example, i know there are lots of talks about china and saudi arabia, you know, an old american ally, switching to are you on denominated trade in oil? do you think, you know, such indirect moves? can i not even challenge them can hi, tammy, it's not about challenging then american hegemony, but making the world more balanced and more secure. a sort of saying not to depend
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on the will of one country, a coffee with a speech that you're actually the common with a. so we are very correct. so every come to see that a dog and now you, you see, you saw it. do we need to trust the dog? so here we can see more and more countries are all the example a star or coffee national monitor with very ha, now it happens your days,
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258. so in the future. so in fact, i think a thought is coming to an end. and as we see the rising prominence of china and other countries, including on that currency as well. and, you know, one of the sort of philosophical question to one of the expressions we hear a lot in the international, these courses who is on the right side of history and who is on the wrong side of history. which i have to say is a very western, i would even say a very christian concept and you know, dividing everything in stark, lee, good or bad friends. as china continues, it's natural, iraq to prominence. do you think it will introduce a more complex understanding of what is good? what is that? and what's the balance between, you know,
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auxiliaries been shelling civilian townsend, mining villages for new york more. very lovely deal with what i do with deal about one of your company a little above the whole of the 3 of the little boys will give us bullet one. there are 2 kinds of conflicts being fought in ukraine. a western design in controlled propaganda war targeting russia and a russian military campaign that is changing the security dynamics of the european continent. and western propaganda is hell bent on escalation. a
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with me. neither won't that use multi paula. we've multi level institutions, un chief coals for global multi polarity journey is 1st visit to russia since the ukraine complete big gun stressing the need to keep alive the values of multilateralism amid the was international fallout. meanwhile, the u. k is armed forces minister says ukraine shall be able to target russian territory and can do so with nato weapons. the russian foreign ministry spokeswoman says nato countries are competing to send more lethal weapons to ukraine and drive less switch off your thermostats and work more from home. those are just some of the steps. europeans have been encouraged to take the stop reliance on brushing energy.
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