[000:00:00;00] a no gas for poland, i'm bold guerria until they pay for their imports in roubles. as russia turns off, but the new commission chief slums, the decision on, justified on the on acceptable. so i had several explosions or heard in russian regions bordering crane with a huge fire and golfing and arms local authority. se ukrainian drones were shopped on overnight on the russian foreign ministry. safe nato countries are competing to supply more lethal weapons to key while claiming they want peace out of the same spark or gas offer there with okay in the united states are not calling for

a piece of with not one to war 2 and see what the united states is doing is going to provo garage shop with just after 5 in the evening here in moscow this wednesday, april the 27th. i'm you know, neil and you're welcome to the program. russia shut the tubs on its gallon supplies to poland, unbolt gary and the energy giant gas prom cited the country's failure to pay for the imports in roubles on time are being done to any on authorized use of transit gas destined for other buyers could result in further cuts, but the u. n. chief has slammed the decision, justify the answer by guests from that it's unilaterally stopping delivery of gas to customers in europe. is yet another attempt by russia to use gas as an

instrument of blackmail. this is unjustified and unacceptable. and it shows, once again and reliability of russia as a guest supplier, you are was quick, took your moscow black male in the to you countries that are almost completely dependent on russian gas. the president of the european commission now says that the work should be intensified to bring as much director with the union as possible to minimize the negative impact from this decision. and also she says, a very interesting thing that right now, poland and bulgaria are receiving energy from their neighbors. so they are continuing to receiving russian gas. but just someone else is paying for that. and gas prices, of course, are much higher which sounds a little bit like observed various european politicians and experts claimed repeatedly that europe is not capable of given up russian gas. and this is why and this pending that many countries have already accepted pain in the way russia once among them, hungary, austria, germany, here is austria and a chancellor explaining,

but it's items we'd be un thought the we, i mean the ostrich mineral oil administration stock company accepted the payment terms as the german government and the payment conditions were found adequate to comply with the conditions of the sanctions. it was important for us, and this is very important for you to make it clear, or the states can still pay in your is or dollars or any other currency. they just have to open accounts in russia's gas from bank, so that later they are payments are converted into roubles. so it doesn't make a big difference actually. plus gas from claims. they notified both poland and bulgaria in advance about the suspension of the ration. guess if the payment is not made. so this is actually what happened. they were warned not flattened, right? the russian presidents spokesperson also stresses that this decision is rush reaction to numerous unfriendly step stores. more so you know, that the country's economy has been, he dramatically because of numerous packages of economic sanctions. so who's black

mailing who asked the question, ready? seeing, of course, a huge cost of living crisis in europe. is there a disconnect between what officials and seeing how people are actually dealing on a day to day basis is going to make the, the current situation worse. while europe is dependent on russian energy and of course, given adopt would fail immediately. and everybody knew that, and everybody was aware about the consequences and they have been talking about that. now we see that the market is in turbulence. clearly european gas prices rose by as much as a fees. but the sad thing is that ordinary people are those paying the highest price we hear right now, for example, that some people in europe now have to choose between paying their energy bills or buying food because it's getting hotter and hotter everyday to afford was great and then well, take showers instead of bob son bikes instead of cars. just some of the suggestions being proposed by b, e. u,

as ways of using less energy in there for inflicting economic pain on russia. later in the program, we'll be looking at more of the message being puts forward to catch another headline story today, several explosions were heard over night, across 3 russian regions bordering ukraine. no casualties were reported. this is footage from the scene in the belgrade regions, smoke and flames could be seen rising from an arms depot, while bluffs were heard in the city. the sound of explosions were also reported in the curse. again, water near the border areas. local authorities in both district said drones were shut down by ur defenses. our teeth double quarter has more. well, it was anything but a quiet night for russians living in border areas near ukraine in belgrade region. people heard explosions throughout early morning and a huge fire broke out. an ammunition steeple explosions were also heard and course

region, one of which was at the air defense system actually shooting down a drone. and the same thing happened in varone as region as well explosions, and a drone being shot down. now it's important to note that nobody was killed or injured as a result of these attacks and russian investigators are already trying to get all the details. and so far, ukraine hasn't actually taken direct responsibility for what happened, but one of ukrainian president vladimir zalinski is advisors, did, insinuated the disarmament of the belgrade and varnish killers. warehouses is an absolutely natural process. comma is a cruel thing that these are far from the 1st attacks we've seen on russian soil over the past several days. we've seen other strikes in belgrade region of fire in a brianne soil terminal, as well as another to drones shot down in course region. even back when i was reporting from russia's ra stove region, at the beginning of russia's military campaign, there was more than a bit of shelling, coming from the ukrainian side. what's different now ville is that western

officials are openly encouraging ukrainian forces to attack russian territory is completely legitimate for ukraine to be targeting in russia's depth in order to disrupt the logistics of moscow has since reacted to that statement, saying that if you crane uses you case applied weapons to attack russia, the countries forces will retaliate by hitting decision making centers in key f. so now the balls in moscow's court, and we're gonna have to see what the next move will be to the battle grounds. russian or forces have reportedly destroyed hungers in the south. eastern is up a ratio region which were said to contain weapons delivered from ukraine's western allies. the strikes were carried on by cruise missiles, the russian m. o. d claims, 59 military targets were had in ukraine overnight, in areas where national groups were located on the city of mario. but while none of the main front lines was a key topic of discussion during talks in moscow and choose between the united

nations chief and russia's president and foreign minister and tony, a good terrorist said agreement has been reached to use un resources to help civilians leave the adolf style of the factory, where some are believed to be sheltering. the industrial zone remains hold on for far right nationalist fighters who have refused to surrender. one more youthful resident claims locals were being used as human shields. since they were hiding in a 73rd house in the basement on the 1st floor, who is hiding there? not teeth nazis. whereas off i do not know which one of them it was sure did they have chevron has some kind of symbols. well, only craning military, have these ribbons and everything else. i do not know the answer for the national guard or someone else. did they offer you the chance to evacuate, where you used as a human shield for them? well, of course they were high. do you know, house entrance had artillery there?

a russian pilot serving jill time in the u. s. has been released in a prisoner exchange between moscow and washington louts, according to the russian foreign ministry constantine, yada shank. and had been sentenced for 20 years in prison. back in 2011 for suppose it involvement and drug smuggling. he's not being swamp for american student and former us marine trevor read. who has jailed in russia for resisting arrest and striking a police officer russian pilot yacht, shank coast jailing spark this spot between the nations. but moscow claiming the arrest broke the vienna convention of diplomatic relations. now, despite western countries repeatedly calling for a cease fire in ukraine, the russian foreign ministry has questioned nato with desire for peace. claiming members of the alliance are competing with each other to send more and more weapons to keep. because then you can book, it seems to me that they are competing to see her can supply more lethal weapons to ukraine. and at the same time,

they say that they want to listen for the need to ant. estes human, it's illogical. well, in one of the latest developments on that to and in a significant future in germany this week said, it will notice and anti aircraft systems to ukraine. this by chancellor schultz previously expressing resistance to the move much to the dismay of coalition allies . not the announcement came of the nato alliance held a defense summit than germany yesterday to discuss offing. arm supplies with the polish prime minister, confirming war, saw how sense. thanks to you, kramer, at the same time western countries, them, they don't want to be directly involved in the conflict. moscow safe weapons supplies can only further i griffey the situation. earlier i discussed the situation with a panel of guest. germany's now announced, then it will ultimately send heavy artillery to kiev. after much hesitation. why this sudden change of heart do you think?

i think they're responding to pressure mainly from the united states that possibly nato's the unit, the u. s. is, has decided, has determined to send as much as it can possibly send to the region. a lot of the stuff that we're sending is i think older stops, it's all stockpiled. it's not, we're not building new stuff for ukraine. this is stuff that we have on hand that we're getting rid of basically in the ukranian theater. that's what this is about. and i think we are leveraging pressure on both nato and specifically on germany to, to go along with that the americans, while germany at to do what drillers don't want to do. he said, germans want to remain peaceful hangers of european union the for the 1st time in history that can be, have them on with, without, ah, militarily all to buying other countries. but that the americans want them to get

armed to switch their peaceful industry. a military industry to switch producing from producing cars to producing thanks and to get involved in a war with russia for the 3rd time and history. the ukrainian people are really ah, the exposure to president offer you create a call for the do was to send more weapons too, too, too. so down to russians, and you know, i think is, is really adding uh, oil to do to the situation to the fire. the u. k. armed forces minister said he said that ukraine has the right to attack russian territory with nato's weapons. a very direct response to a question. how surprising is such rhetoric given that the west is publicly calling for a peaceful resolution? well, i think it, i think it belies the fact that the u. k. in the united states are not calling for a piece of resolution is

a proxy war. and the rest really did not want to war to end soon. why they wish to destroy ukraine and to extend the war and to make it more destructive and deadly, both for people, the economy and the environment there. why they are willing to do that. you know, they want to weaken russia. i don't know if they want temporarily to weaken it or permanently to weaken it, but them, that's the intent and they're using the ukranian people in effect. i mean, the ukrainian country nation. everything that's important to you, cranium is, is basically on the line just, you know, that's a battlefield. let's use it. also a door, friedman, i had a series of talk of talks that he gave ah, back in 2014 and 15. what heat were, he said that what the united states is doing is going to provoke russia while we

don't want to kill russia. we just want to hurt them a bit. and instead of stopping to walk in my a triple lot with closing more casualties, lensky, that it might not be actually wanting to negotiate. just as the foreign minister of russia has contained that the stone sky is pretending to negotiate. i think if the skis really want to have a spot, he should, you know, show it sincerity in making a possible volunteer, put and has warned if any one medals in the situation in ukraine and flames, the conflict rushes response would be immediate. the president also stated all decisions regarding such a response have already been taken. mr. brewton will, speaking during a meeting with members of the council, they just wished from if anyone had issues to interfere and this events

from the outside, that they must know that a he stays in the created with rights strategic threats to russia, that an acceptable to us they must realize our response to their attacks will be swift when you let the team through me and we will. we have all the instrumentals for all the weapons required to do so. you turn done the he thing to turn up the heat on russia. now it's just one of the suggestions to europeans by the international energy agency to help inflict maximum pain on blood, amir put, and other can, could driving less, some slower on taking showers, not by sart. charlotte dubin ski has been looking into whether those recommendations stuck up as the woo continues, the e u is trying to reduce the amount of energy it needs to import from russia. last week,

the box foreign policy chief admitted that an outright ban was proving difficult. i can't give a date. every one can speculate, but as far as i know, there is no proposal on the table. but there are options on the best way to do it. attacks and import band the iranian system. while countries may take decisions at a national level, citizens are being urged to do that part. so for you, commissioners and politicians have suggested a range of how to do your bit to help you crane. the advice is very from cold showers to turning down the thermostat, but now the international energy agency b, i. e, a has come up with a foolproof 9 point plan called playing. my part is in visions how every day people can feed puting. how well dr. last use public transport where possible work

from home at least 3 days a week. if you can't cut down on your call use, you could draw it will slowly on the highways and make sure that you keep air conditioning turned down in your car because he eats fuel at home. it suggests also less air conditioning in the summer. less heating in the winter, the i. e a, he says, all of this won't just stick it to pigeon. it will also help people be more sustainable . faced with the horrendous scenes of human suffering that we've seen following russia's invasion of ukraine. people in europe want to take action. this guide has easy to follow steps that with little or no discomfort on our part can reduce the flow of money to russia's military and help put us on a path to a cleaner and more sustainable planet. and how much exactly will all of these measures save the i e, he says a typical household will save around 450 years a year. that's about one year 23 a day or enough every working week to buy a lot

a in paris. however, if everyone across europe does pitching, this would add up to using 220000000 barrels of oil. less yet because right? except when you realize that russia exports around 5000000 barrels of oil a day, overall, this would cut back on me around 44 days of oil a year, while the pressures have been welcome and find some. there is also a sense that bolen reaction just isn't enough or that these demands could also be perceived badly by the public. the question is, what can we do in terms of regulation to ensure everyone is participating? not only those thinking of the climate or household budgets, all be honest, it is very difficult not to come across or someone telling people what to do in a mean scrooge like way. that is why it is important. we coordinate our information

campaigns, that european level. but if the only dis, every little help, then you can at least try to play your port. charlotte, even sky, all see paris will not all europeans appear to be on board with the plans citizens, the very least it li, for example, faces. it's usual soft re summer. no dark, tempting some to violate the countries energy decree which states are, conditioning, should not be run lower than 25 degrees celsius. we got reaction to the from italians, said she, russia has been supplying us with gas for many years. and it is not possible for europe to give it up at the moment. i also think that other countries do not have the potential to be able to supply all of europe with gas job support. in recent weeks, there has been a reduction, and we have already seen the increases in the crisis that exist. prices bills, gas have increased. all this is making us understand that we already need what we

did before and we cannot do without it. after coven, there was a great crisis, and we cannot afford other moments of crisis for gas london, stated it will be russia that suffers the most over its gas payments rules and claim. turning the top off on bulgaria and poland will only lead to even greater global isolation. holding gas supplies will have a very damaging effect on russia as well because it is becoming further and further more and more. not just a political pariah, but any can mcbryan. let's go live now to london speak to ushered, cha, shut tree, founder of enter straw consulting, which focuses on the energy sector. can i start off speaking about what seems to be a relationship that has strengthened even further this year, the up between russia and india. how do you assess the current energy ties between

the 2? well and the, at the present moment. oh, india appears to have bought a lot more oil than it usually has been historically by you know, overall in years you know, the russian share in india. i mix has been, you know, less than no less than $2000000000.00 a year, compared want, i think, on average annual spend about $100000000.00 a year. so it is important. but it is a small part of the whole orally gratian on the wider issue off, you know, russia in your energy relationship they have, you want to purify, they have had their own bumps are want to be i know that has been some frustration for a long time in russia that they've been able to increase a share historically as they have been able, as the russian cheryl historically increased in europe. one example of what there are there are some of the serious limitations also as far as the energy of the

refineries configuration for example, is concerned that that was in general. finally, that actually designed for middle east on suite crew. and therefore the you lost group which kind of started yesterday at the same level as bread group who has not had that kind of opportunity in the, in the group basket in. and that is not changing. and i've been following what has been going on, how that has been a lot of news reported about india having bought oil. and that is kind of creating a certain consternation within the rest of the media outlets. but i guess i can speak or, you know, it really is a storm in a t call. and, you know, this sentiment has been expressed by no less of course. and then the modern minister of india is beatrice jason. good. he famously has been quoted as saying

that, you know, in the amount of a while or india buys, has bought is, is a, one of the, you know, europe consumes in afternoon, which is accurate. so my question is that, you know, is this really been back beneficial because connection yeah, yeah, no i, i just want to really try and expand and some other issues as well. while we have you on the program, i should touch, you would have heard what you k, deputy prime minister dominic, rob said that russia's decision to cut off gas supplies to poland would make moscow a pariah. but what you've just been seeing there, considering russia is actively developing energy cooperation with other countries globally. how strong is that sentiment by london? well, look, i was, i haven't heard that statement only this morning and i've been following the subject for not that much longer time. than this morning, and i can see that i don't want to go there. don't really need to be going down because this is a very serious problem. look,

when the question mark crisis happened, the gas demand in japan went about 30 b c. no, because the nuclear blancho chart. so if we look at though, share off, you are in the russian gas and europe group, which is i don't $14250.00 b c m. you know, the crisis in europe is actually 5 times out of machine. so i would rather have, you know, what does it mean? it goes making it is having that judgment and actually trying to solve the current crisis. and you know, i have to say that, you know, you do, you know, if you want to know when it is a very serious situation, i have friends and you agree, and i have friends in russia and i'm absolutely saturn, by the whole of events. so i'm really just being that, you know, this crisis is resorted as soon as possible. people come to the negotiation, they will, i know, you know, we actually find a way to move out of this economic crisis. it is a very serious question. sure. just how dependent are european countries on russian oil? well, russia, i think, is a really interesting question. they are there is

a certain level of dependency which cannot be, that dependency is higher than that of gas to be honest with you. ok, but so you know, this is, this is not a, and you know, let's face it that, you know, your panels will be in your rush as was attractive customer, which is why the order to do when it becomes a nar stream or the saloon gas water or whatever, so, you know, there is a real soon buyer, or there is a real yes in buyers relationship that has, that has existed between europe and russia. and, you know, the reason why, you know, despite all the global pressures that we need about it here about, you know, the gas trade between europe and russia. are you an idea that it does continue to russia? hm. but it operates market share rather painstakingly since 1986 and 2 now have to be in a position where that 150 museum of gas has to be substituted by some other gas.

god knows where it is, where to come from. a shock. it is a serious problem. yeah, it's a big issue. just to finally turned back to what you were seeing at the beginning, i should touch because it was interesting. do you think india will continue to trade oil with russia or will western pressure? will it affect it's thinking, well, i will perspective on this and, you know, to be honest with you right now, there is a real part of crisis situation going on in india. so, you know why, you know, i was of these things from a little bit of a distance. so i'm kind of engaged in india. and i'm, i'm familiar and i follow the situation quite closely. but you know, being a spectrum that, you know, if you really have to, why this, why, why not buy a lot more? what has been achieved by buying a small amount of oil while it, while the prices are quite cheap at the moment as well? i'm not so sure about the pricing even because you know, the point of buying all those places. you know, the,

you're on school street or discount to bring by about $22.00. and you know, that has actually been a discount that has been actually, is the indian obligations are suggesting that it has been somewhere in that age of $20.00. that does not take into consideration by the way, the price of the insurance, the cost of shipping and the operational maintenance, jaya gene, just that we're good at y will actually be where it will absorb the russian group. small and quantity as it may be. so i'm not sure, you know, in the are the actual being on the details of the pricing that they want to be made public. but i'm, i'm not kind of my back of the analytical analysis or the discount cannot be very substantial. so i have a question, you know why sacrifice are smart is gone and you know, and why my eyes so little if you, if you have to go to the end of the line, article max at this point. and then we have been problems because, you know,

the transaction has to be done through who was the payment mechanism in our community. so there may be a number of reasons. maybe the indians would want to buy more. i would definitely suggest they would buy a lot. we're not sure what if it is available right now this i'll shortly at the moment. yeah, no, i love to chew on. indeed with those answers. thanks very much though for coming on the program and sharing your view with us. we appreciate i should talk shaw street funder of and are strapped consulting. thank you. well, as shown earlier in the program, more you paul has find itself as an epicenter of the ukraine conflict. more than 400000 people were stuck in the port city and it's all been destroyed. essentially, from the pictures you'll see in a new r t documentary local, they've been sharing their stories and documenting what they've had to go through. the following can be watched in full. it's available at

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