ah, to discuss these issues and more, i'm joined by my guess, george samuel in budapest. he's a podcast or at the goggle which can be found on youtube and locals. and here in moscow we have to meet bob. it is a political analyst and editor, and you know me, internet media project. i generally cross top roles and the fact that means you can jump any time you want. and i would appreciate i. let's start out with george in budapest. i'm sure you came across the editorial piece and the new york times, and we see now cracks in this narrative that is all pervasive as a matter of fact enforced by. so social media that is much as they want to support the ukrainians. the facts on the ground are working against them and the policy has to adopt to it. and it's basically kind of a shot over the bow of the, by the administration. now, asking them, are you in touch with reality? essentially, what did you take away from george? well, i think it's a clear indication of the,

the divisions within the u. s. lead, i'm obviously, if they're some of the people in the pentagon and in their intelligence. well, giving realistic briefing, they say, look, this war is lost. there is no way you frame them when this war of course goes in opposition to all the people in the state department. all of the lincolns and newlands and other stake, their reputation on this notion that your brain can win this war. this is also meeting with great possibilities in the u. k, where our french foreign secretary list truck again came out with an article the other day saying we must win in ukraine unreservedly. you know, we was put in isn't in your brain. so there were deep divisions and even that at the tauriel that you referred to peter that elicited a very b, m,

and response among read it. we weren't told any of this. so i think there are deep divisions and it's not yet immediately clear how these divisions get to play themselves out. well, the in the divisions are even more glaring because we have had, in the past few new cyclists, brands, germany and italy openly saying there negotiations and start there has to be a diplomatic solution. which important is it odds with the faxing world that it really gung ho this trust here was mentioned that i think i sent you before. jordan, see not every time she opens her mouth test, positive for stupid, because especially with her editorials are so, i mean, we keep hearing united, broad everyone's goal is obvious here, but the longer this goes on in the economic situation than europe grows or grave. i'm talking about energy and now the entire issue of global boom security

is on the agenda and they're very big way. so i'll be doubling down, but who's doubling down and is this essentially an escalation of what they want? go ahead. well, natalie or the great one. what does it mean you would you be and all the the the work where you're all the want to do the wrong. they read the role, the people i maybe you maybe

so the or is not going where you whatever the right people i way you know, i need all you know, just people who read there would be really, you know, you shop easy all the new years with all the law in general we. busy make it the thing really made. so the way you want

to see things change or see you re, you know, it's not one of the all and it's all in favor here and there won't be a great environment. why aren't you? we are. all right. ok. well live to george, it's a sad to a demon, had to say here, let's say the truth, let's say the obvious here. it's a military dictatorship right now. so, you know, the mentor of, you know, we're supporting ukrainian democracy. well, political parties have been ban. there's only one television station, it reflects the, the government line here,

and you have these lindsey graham types and lose trust type saying they're fighting for bomb is either right actually defending a military dictatorship, but it does not allow descent and it's never filtered to western public because i truly believe that they were told the true condition, they would say no, no, we didn't, we shouldn't sign up for something like this. go ahead. george is even worse than a military dictatorship because at least if it were a military dictatorship, it would have complete power over the country, and then it would make the difficult decisions that it needs to make. so a reversal policy and just simply saying ok we've, we've tried the war root, we fail, we're not going to assume peace. if you're a dictator, you can actually pull it up even though the public is sunday. i thought we were when a, now you tell us that we're losing, it's a little like him here. germany 980 could pull that off. but so essentially ukraine

is a military dictatorship. that is not a monster of its own house. the saying ukraine is being wrong elsewhere, and it's the powers that i go governing your brain from elsewhere that are pushing it to continue this fine. they continue, you know, whether it's less trust, lloyd austin, and they say, well, we have to defeat russia. how much you want, what's, what's, what's, what do you want? 20000000. 3xb4xbcw. government trillion. what do you want? we're ready to give you anything you want congress happy to sign off on any amount that you like. so of course your grade is just going to keep saying, yeah, give us more more. i mean, it's a huge money laundering operation. so they're all, they're doing very well, and the ukranian people are just suffering or zone. so it's military dictatorship with none of the benefits that come with a military dictatorship. well, glad you brought a big money. because i mean,

now we're just going to the 100 by scam on steroids. i mean there's a lot of money for a lot of people here. and of course, the way the, the us government, the congress and the president taylor. this is basically no spring can do what you want with. i mean, this is really incredible. and as you pointed out earlier, i mean there's every reason, but this will lead in their allies in the west to keep this going on as long as possible because you got a lot of money to spend it be all right. and the for the you know, the same for us who, you know, who they were going to be and we're in the same

you know, i mean, it's not all the boys said it was all over everywhere. so he did what he wanted. he was the government i showed you, you're a, a, a,

a, a, this is all part of the rules based order. ok, that's one of the, you know, the one of the amendments do it here. george, it brings up a fascinating point. is that not only is ukraine being used as a cultural against russia, but the us and britain are using ukraine is a culture against the rest of europe. ok. little little puzzling ukraine is, you know, calling the shots and telling me you have to do this and you have the cop up for us here. i mean, it's really quite an amazing show and that's exactly what it is. it's a propaganda show. go ahead. it's probably going to show when it's all about reorganizing the europe. so he breaks it, britain, withdraw from the u. the u back been managed to get rid of britain because now

britain gets to organize the, you know, in accordance with american wishes. so it gets rid of any kind of a, whatever want to go to the european dimension. so clearly, all are scholes is somebody is the sort of the best in the nation crash, whether it's in london or in washington, they just don't think that he's fully on board with, with the sanctions regime and, and everything else with the arms delivers everything else with nature, so i want to get rid of him and i want to get rid of anyone at all in europe that we have a country voice. it's really all about the consolidation. if you are the us, a lieutenant, you think that you creating officials like that would be speaking the germans without the blessing of washington? no, i really don't. i don't believe that your grain would talk like that. about germany

. i mean the leading power in europe. the total such open content, but germany is leaders and germany leaders meekly. exactly. so i think clearly, you know, they do, they be encouraged from elsewhere. yes. so the, the mentor, keep the russians out, the germans, americans, it works in 2022 doesn't know. i'm going to jump in here. we're going to go to which are breaking up some really say, ah, ah ah, need to come to the russian state will never be outside as i'm phoning the northland scheme div asking him the knock ingles house on meek, within 55 when. okay, so 92 bottles,

anyone else with we will van in the european union, the kremlin. yup. machine. the state aunt rush up to date and c r t spoke neck, given our video agency, roughly all band on youtube. and said with

ah mm who is the aggressor today? i'm authorizing the additional strong sanctions to day russia is the country with the most sanctions imposed against it. and um, but as constantly growing up in yo sich of lep, owen was the cosigner as we speak on the bill in your senior mostly mine or will sheila were banning all in port russian, oil and gas news? i g with regard to by imposing these sanctions on russia has destroyed the american economy. so there's your boomerang.

ah, ah, welcome back to cross top where all things are considered. i'm here a little well, this is the home addition to remind you. we're discussing some real news with let's go back to demo here in moscow. we had a really big media story over the last week and it was the mary opal finally fell. the still works finally fell. but can you explain to us how western media and the ukranian government described on that event? i'm not going to put words in your mouth, but you know, it was called evacuation thought schema. to me you will never come out of

the interview and all the remnants of the least around the rush. so no one be there. somehow they were all over the desert in the right people in the day. and so was wondering what

was the what the and the, the region to me on the be 3 the 13 people see you are. so there you go, you know, the legal and the year was full of you know, then you know, i won't be i and you know what? i love the, so i go in,

they are a where to eat all the q i you know, ok, well george, so a was described in they said evacuation, but nobody is allowed to use the word surrender because i would work against the narrative because ukraine is winning ok and also upcoming work crimes trials, which is something that i think will a shock the, the, the propaganda narrative of the west because there are soldiers involved. but there are also a neo nazi elements in the russian side for months when i understand these people will be a charge for crimes against humanity, war crimes. and it's very well documented. they've been watching these people since 2014, exactly. when demon was talking about george yes,

no question. incidentally. 2 the west, the media versus the new york time still hasn't been accepted, that mario as well. and so they write that according to the russian government, marianna is now under, has been completely free from the ukrainian ukraine. government has not confirmed this. your times is not able to come on the russian whenever the ukraine says anything that's always accepted. but when russia has to be independently confirm, i mean, i think that will be what struck, i doubt very much. those of the western media are going to give much coverage, much like the haven't given much coverage to the lot of fascinating information. the russians are providing about these bio labs in the ukraine. and it's a lot of very detailed information that they have on comment documents and everything. it's getting no,

no traction in the west. the media. what's what is playing in west the media and again, a complete distortion. and i think this is, this will play of a very big role as, as the economic crisis unfold this summer is here, this summer, russia is to blame for the food shortages, the energy shortages suppresses the in the, the western media or russia is blockading ukraine. sports now to block a to poll, that is a serious crime. if russia were really doing blockading is really important. we would be really hearing about it. that would be a 30 big deal would be hearing at the united nations everyday. every international or possible. so the very fact that it's kind of flipped in the news stories, not they know that this is untrue, but you still get the propaganda out. the reason your brain is having problems getting. 1 stuff out through the black season that they mind the black sea. and

when you mind the blacks, they know insurance companies are not going to handle any shifts because it's just too dangerous that they can't get anything out. so what is happening now is that the europeans, european union is going to lose ukraine. they're just going to get everything out of ukraine. all our agricultural produce, anything that up, you know, we're going to use that to pay for all the arm that we're giving you. so you will have lots of on, but almost certainly no food within a few months, you know, the, you just going to lose everything. well, it's one of the, another curiosity, at least, as far as i'm concerned, i'm going back. we are original comment is that the you is basically agreeing to pay the salaries of civil servants and government officials in ukraine. again, no reason to really want this thing to come to an end because those same officials not always paid on time or not. but now they're going to be guaranteed by the european union as we see increasing energy prices, empty shells,

supply chain, all of this going on. but the grain will be all right here. i mean, i can see, and we have, we have, we can get the millions of migrants that have left. greg got into europe here. i mean, beginning europe, you're be in, leadership is really bit off more than they can probably true because it's only going to get worse when you're preparing for when it's now as we speak right now. when you prepare for the next winter, they're not doing that. go ahead. well, yes. we do it again right now. again tomorrow. well,

radiant will and then you re quiet the me. oh, you know, the reason why they declare the key pad these which thought you might be prompted by the way my so you yes. store. you follow the real wrong

and the way things are getting wrong will be the be the rain me back. everyone knows all the way you might be and then all. well, this is part of the rules based order. ok. that's the way where we're actually running out of georgia. i'm curious. how can you come to my mind, the green new dealers? i mean, this is really a boom for them. ok. everybody gets cold and everybody's this is part of the d industrialization year. i mean, they love ukraine for this because that's

a good reason to cut off all this energy here. and of course, you know, when all that energy speaking turned off for some reason, there's going to be a lot more sunshine for solar and is going to be a whole lot more when, you know, i don't know where, why they think this, but i think they do go hit george a like you're right. it's actually very funny in that he shows up the fatuous, this all the green you do. basically there is no alternative to fossil fuels. so once you basically cut yourself in fossil fuel, there's no, there's no way there's no energy. i mean, it basically will. german industrialism will come to our show, say we got nothing 0, you know, you come up from, you know, russian oil and gas. we're going to be back to where we were in 1940. 1 so all the talking with the sunshine, well it's nothing 0, i mean it's, it's never, there was only reliance on fossil fuels. a lot of that,

i think a big market with 40 for a 22 or the germans were implemented on there. and so, i mean, it was a really very well be happy, you know, great the nationalization, but this is supposed to be the economic powerhouse of europe. so as you are doing well and, you know, speaking of the green party here, i mean, this is one of the most twisted of narratives i've ever seen from the one, maybe the president. i mean there were the greens in germany. what are some of the most pro nato atlanta says the ball, but they're also new dealers. so, i mean, this is really, really twisted because for them to be pro nato, they have to have a lot of energy to fuel their tanks and all these other things. i mean,

it's really, it's almost a last 3 d o a z, a, [000:00:00;00] a, that's all the time we have here. what i think my guess in budapest and here in mosque, i want to thank our viewers for watching a c, r t. see you next time, remember, ah, ah, oh no one main thing is important or not to some internationally speaking to that

is that nations allowed to do anything, all the mazda races, and then you have the minor nations who are the slaves. americans, proc obama and others have had a concept of american exceptionalism and international law exist as long as it serves american interest. if it doesn't, it doesn't exist by turning those russians into this danger is boy man that wants to take over the world. that was a culture strategy. so some golf out of it on your own, i know she leashed off tim zip on and tablet block. nato said it's ours. we moved east. the reason us, hey jim, it is so dangerous. is it the law? the sovereignty of all the countries, the exceptionalism that american uses and its international war planning is one of the greatest threats to the populations of different nations. if nato,

what disbanded shareholders in the united states and elsewhere in large obs companies would lose millions of millions or is business and business is good. and that is the reality of what we're facing. which is fashion. with

a with pohden is the aggressor to chose is war. today i'm authorizing the additional strong sanctions with seniors. he's becoming a senior, mostly mind the branding all in ports of russian oil and gas turbine and imposing the sanctions. are russia you has destroyed the american? any time, so there's a boomerang by way of suffering. the i was really hitting people in the pocketbook. boys i guess, was always there. i see you using your, your router visitor, unless you, this is gonna impose severe cost on the russian economy of immediately and overtime