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hello and welcome to cross talk, where all things are considered on peter level. the western narrative, ukraine is winning and will win is crumbling. even the new york times it gets as much the ukrainian military is collapsing, none the less, washington and its allies continue to pour in money and arms. it's crunch time for kit. ah. to discuss these issues and more, i'm joined by my guess, george samuel leon, budapest. he's a podcast or at the goggle, which can be found on youtube and locals. and here in moscow we have to meet bobbins. he is a political analyst and editor and interest me internet media project. i generally crossed off rules and the fact that means you can jump anytime you want. and i would appreciate i. let's start out with george and in budapest, i'm sure you came across the tauriel piece and the new york times. and it's that we

see now cracks in this narrative, that is all pervasive as matter fact enforced by. so social media that is much as they want to support the ukrainians. the facts on the ground are working against them and policy has to adapt to it. and it's basically kind of aim shot over the bow of the bite administration. i am asking them, are you in touch with reality essentially, what did you take away from george? well, i think it is clear indication of the divisions within the u. s. lead, obviously, if they're some of the people in the pentagon and in their intelligence, well, giving realistic briefing, they say, look, this war is lost, there is no way you frame them when the war. now of course goes in opposition to all the people in the state department. all of the lincolns and newlands and others web stake, their reputation on this notion the ukraine can win this war. this is also meeting

with great possibilities in the u. k. where our french foreign secretary lists trust again came out with an article the other day saying we must win in ukraine unreservedly. you know, we was in ukraine. so there were deep divisions and even that as a tauriel that you referred to be elicited a very b, m, and response among read it. we weren't told any of this. so i think there are deep divisions and it's not yet immediately clear how these divisions get to play themselves out. well, the divisions are even more glaring because we have had, in the past few new cyclists, brands, germany and italy openly saying that negotiations start there has to be

a diplomatic solution, which of course is at odds with the i was actually. busy that it really gung ho trust here was mentioned that i think i sent you before. jordan see not every time she opens her mouth test, positive for stupid because that's essentially what her editorials are. so i mean, we keep very united broad. everyone's goal is obvious here. but the longer this goes on in the economic situation than europe, bros, or grave, i'm talking about energy and now the entire issue of global security is on the agenda in a very big way. so i'll be doubling down, but who's doubling down and is this essentially an escalation of what they want? go ahead. well, i think we natalie or the. ringback will grade one. what does this mean?

you would you be in the matter tomorrow? were you all want to do the ged that you were in the, the role these people i maybe you might be maybe so the or is more boy where you whatever with the right people. i mean, you know, i will be all your, you know, just people who, why read there will be in your brain,

you shut off from the all the growing years with all the law in general. we all need the things made wrong. so the way it was in russia, actually d, j r c u re, it is one of the all is all will be gone. they are here and there

is a great environment. they say, why aren't you, we all ok, well live to george. it's a sad to what demon had to say here. let's say the truth, let's say the obvious here. it's a military dictatorship right now. so you know, the mentor of, you know, supporting ukrainian democracy. well, political parties have been ban. there's only one television station. it reflects the government line here and you have these lindsey graham types and lose trust type saying they're fighting for demography. they're actually defending a military dictatorship, but it does not allow descent and it's never filtered to western public because i truly believe that they were told the true condition. they would say no, no, we didn't. we shouldn't sign up for something like this. go ahead. george is even worse than a military dictatorship because at least if it were a military dictatorship, it would have complete power over the country,

and then it would make the difficult decisions that it needs to make. so a reversible policy and just simply saying ok we've, we've tried to leave the war root, we fail, we're not going to assume peace. if you're a dictator you can actually pull it off even though the public is sunday. i thought we were winning. now you tell us that we're losing, it's a little like him here, germany 918. it will pull that off. but so essentially ukraine is a military dictatorship. that is not a matter of its own house. the same ukraine is being run elsewhere. and it's the hours that i go governing your brain from elsewhere that are pushing it to continue this fight. they continue, you know, whether it's less trust, lloyd austin. and they say, well, we have to defeat russia. how much you and what's, what's, what's, what do you want? 20000000. 3xb4xbcw. government trillion. what. what do you want?

we're ready to give you anything you want congress happy to, to sign off on any amount that you like. so of course your grade is just going to keep saying, yeah, give us more more. i mean, it's a huge money laundering operation. so they're all, they're doing very well. and the ukranian people are just suffering or zone. so it's, it's military dictatorship with none of the benefits that come with a military dictatorship. well lead, you brought a big money because, i mean, now we're just going to have the money to buy and scam on steroids. i mean, there's a lot of money for a lot of people here. and of course, the way the, the us government, the congress and the president taylor. this is basically no spring can do what you want with it. yeah. i mean, this is really incredible. as you pointed out earlier, i mean there's every reason, but this will lead in their lives in the west to keep this going on as long as

possible because you got a lot of money to spend. absolutely, it be done. all right, and for the you know, the same for us who, you know, who they are going to be and we're in the same you know, it's not all the ones that are everywhere. so he was,

he was he was the derivative government. i showed you your wallet model lower. it will be more and more now when you go to the people, i don't mean people . this is all part of the rules based order. ok, that's one of the, you know, the one of the amendments to interior a georgia daemon brings up a fascinating point. is that not only as ukraine being used as a cudgel against russia, but the us and britain are using ukraine is because you get the rest of ok,

a little little public ukraine is calling the shots and telling the you have to do this and you have to come up for us here. i mean it's really quite an amazing show and that's exactly what it is. it's a propaganda show. go ahead. it's probably going to show and it's all about reorganizing europe. so we had breakfast, brittany withdrawals from the e u b u above been managed to get rid of britain because nothing gets to organize v you in accordance with american wishes. so it gets rid of any kind of a, whatever one called the european dimension. so really all i show is someone who's the sort of the best in the wire of the nato crafts or whether it's in london or in washington. they just don't think that he's fully on board with the, with the sanctions regime and everything else with the delivers everything else

with nature. so i want to get rid of him, and i want to get rid of anyone at all in europe that we have a country. it's really all about the consolidation of europe. us a lieutenant. you think that you creating officials like that would be speaking the germans without the blessing of washington? no, i really don't. i don't believe that you grain with talk like that about germany. i mean the leading power in europe. the total such open content. but germany's leaders and germany leaders meekly. exactly. so i think clearly, you know, they'd be, they'd be encouraged from elsewhere. yes. so they, the mentor, keep the russians out, the germans, americans, it works in 2022, doesn't. i got to jump in here. we're going to go to which are really say, oh,

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ah, welcome back to cross top where all things are considered on peter lavelle. this is the home edition to remind you were discussing some real news with lewis. go back to demo here in moscow. well, we had a really big media story over the last week and it was the merry opal finally fell . of the still works. finally fell. but can you explain to us how western media and

the ukranian government described on that event? i'm not going to put words in your mouth, but you know, it was called evacuation thought schema. to me you will never come out of the interview and all the remnants of the day. so no you won't be there somehow. you know, they were all the reasons they deserve in the

people in the day. and so that is what we what and they may be really in about 13 people in your reading. so there you go, you know,

the legal and the year was full of you know then you know will be really want to know i will be sold for him. they are range that they will be where people or q one they will be there. there was a judge, the way it was described, they said evacuation, but nobody is allowed to use the word surrender because that would work against the narrative because ukraine is winning. okay. and also upcoming war crimes trials, which is something that i think will shock the,

the propaganda narrative of the west because there are soldiers involved. but they're also a neo nazi elements and the russian side for months when i understand these people will be charged for crimes against humanity, more crimes. and it's very well documented. they've been watching these people since 2014. exactly. when demon was talking about george. yes, no question. incidentally. 2 the west, the media versus the new york time still hasn't been accepted, that mario as well. and so they write that according to the russian government, marianna is now under, has been completely fried grove, ukrainian, ukraine government has not confirmed this. your times is not able to the russian whenever the ukraine says anything that's always accepted, but when russia has to be independently confirm, i mean, i think that will be what struck, i doubt very much. those of the western media are going to give much coverage,

much like the haven't given much coverage to the lot of fascinating information. the russians are providing about these bio labs in the ukraine. and it's a lot of very detailed information that they have on comment documents and everything. it's getting no, no traction in the west, the media. what's what is playing in west the media and again, and complete the distortion. and i think this, this will play of a very big role as, as the economic crisis unfold this summer is here, this summer, russia is to blame for the food shortages. the energy shortages suppresses the in the, the western media or russia is blockading ukraine's bullets. now, to blockade or poll, that is a serious walker. if russia were really doing blockading is really important. we would be really hearing about it. that would be

a 30 big deal would be hearing at the united nations every day, every international or possible. so the very fact that it's kind of flipped in the news stories, not they know that this is untrue, but you still get the propaganda out. the reason your brain is having problems getting. 1 stuff out through the black season, they mind, they have a black sea. and when you mind the blacks, they know insurance companies are not going to handle any shifts because it's just too dangerous so they can't get anything out. so what is happening now is that the europeans, european union is going to lose ukraine. they're just going to get everything out of your brain, all our agricultural produce, anything that, you know, we're going to use that to pay for all the arm that we're giving you. so you will have lots of on, but almost no food within a few months, you know, the e was just going to lose everything. well, be my one of the, another curiosity at least, as far as i'm concerned. going back we are original comment is that you basically

agreeing to pay the salaries of civil servants and government officials in ukraine . again, no reason to really want this thing to come to an end because those same officials not always paid on time or not. but now they're going to be guaranteed by the european union as we see increasing energy prices, empty shells, supply chain, all of this going on. but the grain will be all right here. i mean, i can see, and we have, we have, we can get of the millions of migrants that have left. greg got into europe here. i mean, beginning europe nearby and leadership is really a bit off more that they can probably true because it's only going to get worse when you're preparing for when you do it now as we speak right now, when you prepare for the next winter, they're not doing that right now go ahead. well yes, we do

the games now. ready will be again tomorrow. well, radiate will. and then you re quiet the me. oh, you know, the reason why they got the key factor. we switched on by whoa whoa whoa whoa,

by the way. so you yes. store was very real. and the way things are getting wrong, basically the idea we use them back. everyone knows. all right, now, you know, basically you might be

well, this is part of the rules based order. ok. that's the way where we're actually running out of georgia. i'm curious, how can comes in my mind, the green new dealers? i mean, this is really a boom for them. okay. everybody gets cold. everybody's. this is part of the industrialization the year. i mean, they love ukraine for this because that's a good reason to cut off all this energy here. and of course, you know, once all that energy speaking turned off for some reason, there's going to be a lot more sunshine for solar. there's going to be a whole lot more when you know, i don't know where, why they think this, but i think they do go ahead. and that's exactly right. it's actually very funny in that he shows up the fatuous, that's all the green you do. basically there is no alternative to fossil fuels. so once you basically cut yourself in fossil fuel, there's not, there's no way there's no energy. i mean, it basically will. german industrialism will come to our show,

say we got it because it 0, you know, you've got a cell from, you know, russian oil and gas. we're going to be back to where we were in 1940. 1 so all the dog, you know, with the sunshine when i was, it's nothing 0. i mean there was only reliance on fossil fuels of living with all this time about i think a big market with 44, a 22 or the germans were implemented on there. and so, i mean, it was a great the nationalization, but now this is supposed to be the economic powerhouse of europe. so you're, we're almost, i think, you know, you've been speaking of the green party here. i mean, this is one of the most wish of narratives i've ever seen from the one,

maybe the present. i mean, there, there were the greens in germany. what are some of the most pro nato atlanta system all, but they're also new dealers. so, i mean, this is really, really twisted because for them to be pro nato, they have to have a lot of energy to fuel their tanks and all these other things. i mean, it's really wasted. it's almost, it's running last 3 cycles. oh, well they say a little bit about, well, i run a i and all the time we have here when i think, my guess in budapest and here in mouse, going to think our viewers were watching a c a r t c. next time. remember? ah,

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