he stained glass instead of building the one or the other site. this is out the decal far artie from new delhi. well that's how the world is looking for 30 am moscow tie? my name is peter scott. i'm back with more in about half an hour. see you then. thank you. lou needs to come to the russian state co. never. i've stayed as i'm phoning north lansky in dba. mm hm. now knocking also slaps and made it within a 50 babel did. okay, so mine is 2000 speedy. when else with we will van in the european union the kremlin. yup, machines. the state aren't russia today and spoke ortiz spoke now,

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the western narrative. ukraine is winning and will win, is crumbling even the new york times. it mits as much. the training military is collapsing, none the less, washington and its allies continue to pour in money and arms. it's crunch time for kit. ah. to discuss these issues and more, i'm joined by my guess, george m u l e. in budapest, he's a podcast or at the goggle which can be found on youtube and locals. and here in moscow we have to meet bob. it is a political analyst and editor, and you know me, internet media project. i generally cross top roles and the fact that means you can jump any time you want. and i would appreciate i. let's start out with george in budapest. i'm sure you came across of the tauriel piece and the new york times, and we see now cracks in this narrative that is all pervasive as matter fact enforced by so social media that is much as they want to support the ukrainians.

the facts on the ground are working against them and policy has to adopt to it. and it's basically kind of a shot over the bow of the, by the administration. i'm asking them or are you in touch with reality? essentially, what did you take away from george? well, i think it's a clear indication of the divisions within the u. s. lead, i'm obviously the, some of the people in the pentagon and in the intelligence well, are giving realistic briefing. they say, look, this war is lost. there is no way you can win this war. of course, are we going opposition to all the people in the state department? all of the lincolns in another state, their reputation on this notion that ukraine can win this war on. this is also meeting with great possibility in the u. k,

where our friends for secretary list trust, again, came out with an article the other day saying we must win in ukraine unreservedly. you know, we was put in and put in your grade so that there was deep divisions and even that editorial that you referred to be a response among readers. you know, we went told any of this. so i think there are deep divisions and it's not yet immediately clear how these divisions are going to play themselves out. well, the end of the divisions, even more glaring because we have had a few cycles, france, germany in italy openly saying negotiations and start there has to be a diplomatic solution, which of course is at odds with the anglo saxon. busy that is just really go, a little stress here was mentioned that i think i said before, george, you know,

every time she opens her mouth as positive for stupid, because especially with her and, and royals are so, i mean, we keep hearing, you know, i didn't, broad everyone's, you know, it's, the goal is obvious here, but the longer this goes on in the economic situation than europe, well, grows or grave. i'm talking about energy and now the entire issue of global boom security is on the agenda and they're very big way. so i'll be doubling down, but who's doubling down and is this essentially an escalation of what they want? go ahead. well, natalie or the great one. what does this mean? you would be in the matter tomorrow.

so you all want to be in the role these people are maybe a huge maybe the so the or is not going where you whatever the right people. i mean, you know, i will be your, you know, just people who, why read there would be in your brain, you shop or you're

going to use a room with all the law in general. we all need to be made. so the way you want it actually d, g, r c, you re, it is one of the all. and it's all we do even if they are here and there is a great environment. they why are we all

right. ok. well, if you're george, it's a sad to a demand to say here, let's say the truth, let's say the obvious here, it's a military dictatorship right now. so, you know, the mentor of, you know, we're supporting ukrainian democracy. well, political parties have been ban. there's only one television station, it reflects the government line here, and you have these lindsey graham types and lose trust type saying they're fighting for demography. they're actually defending a military dictatorship, but it does not allow descent and it's never filtered to western public because i truly believe that they were told the true condition. they would say no, no, we didn't. we shouldn't sign up for something like this. go ahead. george is even worse than a military dictatorship because at least if it were a military dictatorship, it would have complete power over the country, and then it would make the difficult decisions that it needs to make. so

a reversible policy and just simply saying ok we've, we've tried leave the war route, we fail, we're not going to assume peace. if you're a dictator you can actually pull it off even though the public is sunday. i thought we were winning. now you tell us that we're losing, it's a little like him here. germany 980 could pull that off. but so essentially ukraine is a military dictatorship. that is not a matter of its own house. the saying ukraine is being run elsewhere and it's the powers that go governing your brain from elsewhere that are pushing it to continue this fine. they continue, you know, whether it's less trust, lloyd austin. and they say, well, we have to defeat russia, how much you and what's, what's, what's, what do you want? 20000000. 3xb4xbcb. government trillion. what. what do you want? we're ready to give you anything. you want congress api to, to sign off on any amount. that's right. so of course your grade is just going to

keep saying, yeah, give us more more. i mean, it's a huge money laundering operation. so they're all, they're doing very well. and the ukranian people are just suffering or zone. so it's, it's military dictatorship with none of the benefits that come with a military dictatorship. what lead you brought a big money? because, i mean, now we're just going to buy scam on steroids. i mean, there's a lot of money for a lot of people here. and of course, the way the, the us government, the congress and the president taylor. this is basically no spring. you can do what you want with it. yeah. i mean, this is really incredible. as you pointed out earlier, i mean there's every reason, but this is a lead in their lives, in the west to keep this going on as long as possible because you got a lot of money to spend it be

all right, and for the you know, the same for us who, you know, they were going to be and we're in the same you know, it's not all the boy said it was, you know, the wall or everywhere. so he went around, he was he was the derivative

government. i showed you, you're a, a, a, a, a, this is all part of the rules based order. ok, that's one of the, you know, the one of the amendments do it here. george, it brings up a fascinating point. is that, not only is ukraine being used as a cultural against russia, but the us and britain are using ukraine is a culture against the rest of europe. ok, little little, luckily ukraine is, you know,

calling the shots and telling me you have to do this and you have the cop up for us here. i mean, it's really quite an amazing show and that's exactly what it is. it's a propaganda show. go ahead. it's probably going to show when it's all about reorganizing the europe. so he breaks it, britain, withdraw from the u. the u back didn't managed to get rid of britain because now britain gets to organize the, you know, in accordance with american wishes. so it gets rid of any kind of a, whatever want to go to the european dimension. so really all i show is somebody is the sort of the best in the nation crash, whether it's in london or in washington, they just don't think that he's fully on board with, with the sanctions regime and everything else with arms delivers everything else with nature. so i want to get rid of him, and i want to get rid of anyone at all in europe that we have

a country voice. it's really all about the consolidation. if you the un nato umbrella with brittany and his loyal lieutenant, you think that you craning officials like that would be speaking the germans without the blessing of washington? no, i really don't. i don't believe that ukraine would dare talk like that. about germany . i mean, the leading power in europe to total such open contempt for germany's leaders and germany's leaders meekly. exactly. so i think clearly, you know, they'd be, they'd be encouraged from elsewhere. yes. so they, the mentor, keep the russians out, the germans down to the americans. it works in 2022, doesn't i gotta jump in here. we're going to go to which our break. now that's why i'm really say, ah, ah, ah,

ah ah, i think it is very difficult for us to understand that the conflicts generation also comes back in on the generator mac formula. if you unleash some kind of project into a country of interventionist as it negatively dis, this can and may effect the security of the country. ah

ah, welcome back across top where all things are considered. i'm cute lavelle. this is the home edition to remind you were discussing some real news with let's go back to d. m a. here in moscow we had a really big media story over the last week and it was the mary opal finally fell. of the still works finally fell. but can you explain to us how western media and the ukranian government described on that event? i'm not going to put words in your mouth, but you know, it was called evacuation thought schema. to make sure

you will get all the more you did and all the rest of the day. so no question. and then i won't be there somehow. you know, they will be the only user in the right people in my day and so

was wondering what was the how and the region 2 may be 3 the people who are reading. so in order to get back and go, you know, the legal and the year was full of you know, then, you know, will be really want to know i will be.

so they are, they are, they will be where the queue, you know, are they will be there? well judge the way it was described, they said the vacuum ition, but nobody is allowed to use the word surrender because that would work against the narrative. because ukraine is winning. okay. and also upcoming war crimes trials, which is something that i think will shock the, the propaganda narrative of the west because there are soldiers involved. but there are also a neo nazi elements and the russian side for months when i understand these people will be charged for crimes against humanity, more crimes. and it's very well documented. they've been watching these people

since 2014, exactly. when demon was talking about george no question incidentally. 2 the west, the media versus the new york time still hasn't been accepted that mario slowly and so they write that according to the russian government. marianna is now under has been completely fried grove, ukrainian calls this ukraine. government has not confirmed this and the times is not able to own the russian whenever the ukraine says anything that's always accepted. but when russia has to be independently confirm, i think that will be what struck, i doubt very much. those of the western media are going to give much coverage, much like the haven't given much coverage to the lot of fascinating information. the russians are providing about these bio labs in the ukraine. and it's a lot of very detailed information that they comment documents and everything. it's

getting no, no traction in the west, the media. what's what is playing in west the media and again and complete the distortion. and i think this, this will play of a very big role as, as the economic crisis unfold this summer is here, this summer. russia is to blame for the food shortages. the energy shortages suppresses the in the, the western media are, well, that's, well, russia is blockading ukraine's bullets. now, to blockade a pole that is a serious walker. if russia were really doing this blockading is really important. we would be really hearing about it that would be a 30 big deal would be hearing at the united nations everyday, every international or possible. so the very fact that it's kind of flipped in the news stories, not they know that this is untrue, but you still get the propaganda out. the reason your brain is having problems getting. 1 stuff out through the black season that they mind the black sea. and

when do you mind the blacks? they know insurance companies are not going to handle any shifts because it's just too dangerous so they can't get anything out. so what is happening now is that the europeans, european union is going to lose ukraine. they're just going to get everything out of your brain, all our agricultural produce, anything that, you know, we're going to use that to pay for all the arm that we're giving you. so you will have lots of on, but almost no food within a few months. you know, the e was just going to lose everything. well, be my one of the, another curiosity at least, as far as i'm concerned. going back we are original comment is that you is basically agreeing to pay the salaries of civil servants and government officials in ukraine. again, no reason to really want this thing to come to an end because those same officials not always paid on time or not. but now they're going to be guaranteed by the

european union as we see increasing energy prices empty shelled supply chain. all of this going on, but the grain will be all right here. i mean, i can see, and we have, we have, we can get of the millions of migrants that have left. greg got into europe here. i mean, beginning european, the european leadership is really bit off more that they can probably true because it's only going to get worse when you're preparing for when you do it now as we speak right now, when you prepare for the next winter, they're not doing that right now go ahead. well yes, we do the games now. ready will be again tomorrow.

well, radiate will and then you raise the quiet the me, oh, you know, the reason why the key the switched on my oh whoa whoa whoa, by the way. so you yes. store was

very real. and the way things are getting from will be the idea be be back. everyone knows. all right, now, you know, you could be basically, you might be well, this is part of the rules based order. ok. that's the way we're actually running out of georgia. i'm curious, i can comes in my mind, the green new dealers. i mean, this is really a boom for them. okay. everybody gets cold. everybody's. this is part of the

industrialization the year. i mean, they love ukraine for this because that's a good reason to cut off all this energy here. and of course, you know, once all of that energy speaking turned off for some reason, there's going to be a lot more sunshine for solar. and there's going to be a whole lot more when you know, i don't know where, why they think this, but i think they do go ahead. well, that's exactly right. it's actually very funny in that he shows up the fatuous, this all the green. you do basically there is no alternative to fossil fuels. so once you basically cut yourself in fossil fuel, there's not, there's no way there's no energy. i mean, it basically will. german industrialism will come to our show, say we got it because it 0, you know, you've got a cell from, you know, russian oil and gas. we're going to be back to where we were in 1940. 1 so all the dog, you know, when the listen, you know, with the sunshine when i was, it's nothing 0. i mean there was only reliance on fossil fuels. so

a lot of that i think would be the market with $44.00. busy who would have thought of 2022, the germans went implemented on there. and so, i mean, it was a great the nationalization, but this is supposed to be the economic powerhouse of europe. so your wellness, i think, you know, you've been speaking of the green party here. i mean, this is one of the most wish of narratives i've ever seen from the one maybe the present. i mean there, there were the greens in germany. what are some of the most pro nato atlanta system all but they're also new dealers. so i mean this is really, really twisted because for them to be pro nagle, they have to have a lot of energy to fuel their tanks and all these other things. i mean it's really

wasted. it's almost, it's a brand new glass as well. they say we have a i, a, i, and all the time we have here when i think, my guess in budapest and here in mouse, going to think our viewers were watching a c a r t next time, remember, ah, ah, ah, with

i think it is very difficult for us to understand that the conflict generation also comes back and on the generator some more formula. if you unleash some kind of project into a country of interventionist as it negatively this cam and may effect the security of that country. ah,

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