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hello and welcome to cross stockwell, while the west maintains its anti russia rhetoric and backed up with an option of a political in financial analyst tommy want. and i always appreciate i. let's go to our guest in hong kong day davos in my introduction zalinski talking about there has to be negotiations. also. his chief negotiate refuted that immediately after the ukrainian president of henry kissinger is someone i usually don't invoke on this program. but he was also at davos, he said, the conflict with russia must end in 2 months, or it will spiral out of control. so negotiate or not to negotiate. and someone that i don't have a whole lot of respect bull street, but his intellect is something you have to deal with here. so where do we stand? did all of this year go head in hong kong. when peter, his older rhetoric, we should look at facts, not, not the words here. and in these knots, he says,

lensky is clearly not willing to negotiate. and we have to actually challenger, easy, really the wanting power. we all know that these pressed by death by and parties to have been made. yes, it is cleaning. yeah. and it's probably the decisions i've taken in washington dylan spend. let me go to margaret here. i mean, one french president mc chrome kind of on his own. and as always, at least keep talking here. fain the vast majority of the crissy because we know light austin huge casualties. so surprise, a cash cow for the military industrial complex. it was never really about caring about ukraine. the object of this war is as the to happen. russia's military is stronger than ukraine, obvious, of course, they were a going to win. all this talk of russia being a gas station masquerading. they are impoverishing the entire,

were referred to try to weaken or russia economically. there has to be negotiations, but i worry because biden, and his team of amateur it let's, let's expand it because see here is mission creep. okay. and it's really no coincidence that the grift of afghanistan was over law, even though there's the sums of money are getting more and more similar. there are people in washington talking about 3 trillion dollars that should light should go off in your brain there. that was what the afghan griff cost is here. i mean it, it, it seems like there's very few winners in this. around all across the globe are the biggest losers. of course, the arms manufacturers, the lobbyist, the, the hunter, biden's, absence world. they make money off of it. go ahead. rachel. you know, i think peter holding because it seems like the jacket on the part of the united states, which really has no interest in putting an end to this party. this any party is here in a year. and seems ominous complex so that russian can't get involved in us. but i

think the reality is that this from europe, because never in france, on the fact that this cats the italian prime minister of foreign white plans for ph you interested in it. but the fact is probably disgusted with some work for it. and additionally, to under general united nations who's already made a trip to moscow, suggest that maybe there's some interest in having him bring this forward and see what can be done with it. the fact that here doesn't seem to be interested in it right now. it's probably largely a factor of just the reality that united states and europe seem to still be somewhat behind it. but as that solidarity and unity, weekends and zelinski did touch on that point. this evening solidarity is each of those this week. i think we could see things starting to change. yeah, it's interesting to your point that i'm,

let's go back to hong kong and angela. it's very interesting. they this whole idea of solidarity and solidarity. but if you look at, you know, you're in hong kong, by the way, i mean this effort to isolate russia. but if you look at it broadly, it's the european, more and more i slade, people just not on board for this. ok, i'm saudi arabia came out in the last new cycles. they were not getting involved were not get involved. this is your fight. ok. the indians feel that way. obviously the chinese feel that way if the issue was to isolate itself, isolation and europeans were never supposed to be hurt by sanctions there being hurt more by side. the sanction ahead. what the leading here is i. busy think we should look more globally, this transition between a, from going from a uniform a was she a multiple a was in, i think this was her. those countries day they were did in the improvised the position of india probably was talked. they talk to each other in i think this is

the kind, the timing is isa. and how can i say, i think it's a combined effort from the grant is, is a coordinated in, i think, i think china, what are so closely with russia to prepare to what we're living here. keep in mind that or, or everything that we're living right now, the in ukraine, enter. so in taiwan, you have, i think that the papers and for example, the rand corporation, they already planned that. they talked about of window of opportunity between 2015 to 2025 where they can contain china and part of containing chinese contain russia . so the 1st step is, contain russia. so you can actually see, you can gives a lot of oil and gas to, to china. and then the last, the last goal is china. and you see, i mean the stud a coincidence that you have by than no, that is are going to south korea and japan, she begged them chiz, ju, ju, ju, had them in she containing china. well,

i really think go to margaret. i think binds trip is very comical. i mean, they, they, they want to get the, the chinese on board against russia. but their goal is going around the, the pacific rim, the rim to trying to create an alliance against china. i mean, this is a childish, a juvenile thinking here. i, i really don't know who's coming up with these plans here, but i mean, i don't think the chinese watching all this. take it very seriously whatsoever. go ahead in new york. well i of course, they don't, no one does i, i, i find it amusing that the u. s. can spend all these years accusing china of having concentration camps and all manner of things and trying to disruption in hong kong, and then turn around and expect china to turn against their strategic ah, partner. so yes, this trip is going to be a failure. none of these countries wants to be used the way ukraine is being you. excellent point and point yet to taiwan. it just astounds me that having had

ukraine blow up in their faces, they're now trying to replicate their failure with ty, wine. this administration is incredibly dangerous, biden. his, i did not vote for him, i never supported him, but he is 10 times worse than i thought he in countries, they're the only ones going this calamity of washington's making. or if it's very interesting, because very few people i describe that a short break. and after that short break, we'll continue with i guess with

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you. we're discussing official kids. ah. okay, it's good. it's go back to rachel in paris. i use that word, the term official care because eg genuflecting to our guest in hong kong. is it because of the result of the illegal change of power and i in cabin 2014. that's why i call it official care. i, rachel, i. m. russia must not be allowed to when this is the mantra that we hear through the halls of power in the west, but they're not going to lose this. that's for sure. why? because it's considered existential here. and this is what the, the part, the problem of western policy is, is that they don't want to see russia when, but russia knows that it cannot lose. that is a situation that is direly dangerous. go ahead, rachel. well, i think at this point,

all they're interested in doing here in the west is just tying up russia destroying the european economy, which obviously europe isn't willingly going to do. why re telling how i, i want to know why, why? i mean, that is the question, i can't get my head around god. why? well, because the people who run the show, they all have an idea axe to grind against russia. and for some reason we have this, we're kind of math, syria, math courses on the part of our leaders, where they are courage on the part in any of them to really stand up and say, hey look, you know what? we shouldn't be doing this. this might be american john the america. why, but it's really productive for us. instead, they all just pop more like we've seen. and it was pretty much everything else. and we're going to be stuck with the bill. well, that you big economic and military engineers of the you, friends, germany and that doesn't mean the leader that they have no problem. they get

assigned cars. they get here. you know, there are a lot of these huge salaries. they don't really have to worry about much like there's so much the ground, they're not ready both to check the price. yes. even here in the french election, running for office, couldn't even tell the media when asked what the, what the latest price bag. yet what you think people really care about what we're doing, what's on the ground as average citizens in your know, all they care about is their id, like the judge, and they are really hell bent, achieving it. yeah. but rachel isn't quite curious that, that i would agree, but you know, the united states, it's rubbing his hands with glee that they, at least this point in time. they have had gemini, over a year, a big, you know, they got everybody in line. they're going to get rid of sergeant chilton, germany real quick. they don't like social democrats. ok, we'll get rid of him. ok, and we'll see what, ok, but then what's it worth? what is the price worth when its productivity will go to 0?

what is the price of europe if it's worthless? rachel? well, well, i'm all you have to know about what's going on right now is you can learn by looking back what happened last fall when france not screwed up in the summary. and you'll, you who are summary, you know, with australia by the united states, which jumped any ground. and you were talking tens of hundreds of billions of dollars over many, many years. huge deal price economy. and so that french military industrial complex . and what do you need to know about european leadership and how they're highly, every needs of united? well, angela, me go to you and hong kong. is it continuing? rachel was saying, you know what? why didn't sergeant schultz? that's what i call him in germany because that's how essentially it comes to washington words of genocide and, and ethnic cleanse. what kind of german chancellor talks like that given germany's history but, but anyway, you, so he, you know, we have the french writ of the americans, essentially want germany that we don't want it. rachels run actual courage in the

european union. go ahead in hong kong. i think it's very important to, to put to the context. i mean, what is the you, how was it that you created your, the e, you was a u. s. initiatives after what, what, what you do germany who are so she can see that she be the father of the e. you was under the payroll of the cia. so the e u was an initiative from the us to better control europe. so you see the process after what were you, you had a, a good in democracy because europeans had no say the elect, some people that go to brussels, vaughn de leon. she was nothing like that by me as i'm italian. no, i didn't elect on the line is don beats a, they had no say normally normal times you would have france and germany to take that this policy here. we see clearly that the, you, we sticking the, the, the decisions here with it. so we should respect her,

they're not de mike nor democracy in the european. you know, i mean, no one is on a crate, they will never put it up for a vote. they have referenda don't pass, they have that's their diminished understanding of duly wanting out of time. you know, one of the things that leads want they want to complete breach for a breaking rush away from europe. well, that's in the cards. and heiress peroration and ukraine is settled. there is a new cold war for generations with an s here. we'll rush has got other things to do the west. ok. go ahead. no, it doesn't. and i, you know, that's part of the, the deep will who are simply delusional. i'm, i'm sure the stations of have arm a sure. but if not with a things going to happen, ah, the value of the ruble is going up. they have over the world rising fuel prices, road shortages throughout the global south nations with who can least afford to go through this. and for what, for a vein, dream that they can weaken russia or break up rush or contain russia. their big

fantasy is to get another yeltsin in power so they can pick rushes resources apart at will, none of which is going to happen. and there has to be someone in this world who is thinking clearly, who knows this is all of fantasy. and that will start us and be it's vassals are behind. and yes, this break is prepared now to turn its back, you'll see how well even those that do what el rey to it. we've been improved very real thing. so i support. so to weaken break up would starve, and that, that as is well we, we seen what's happened in war zones where the united states security. we saw what happened. well, nicole, ever, that can stand big rush and what's happened there says we and other hunting. that's really a big, consistently united states damage, i mean, as eagles based order. and the west is morally superior to every one, you know,

and they invoke, well they do. it's for radically international law. i mean, it's really quite amazing. let me, it's go to hong kong here it's, it's, it's really quite amazing to me that they put on these errors all the time. um, but it only an angel interests it all the right, great examples of western virtue in the world. go ahead. i. 3 i think the virtue should be, it should be about tangible results or, you know, it's, it's just a, it's a, it's a fig democracy, a democracy should be, the legitimacy should come for from the satisfaction of people. i've lived in china 27 years. i talked to chinese, they're happy with the system. it doesn't me to please me. it please needs to please them 95 percent according to howard university study. 95 percent of people are happy with the c p. c, y, because if the livery is delivery, you know, people are looking for tangible results in the west is premises. it's about

showmanship. it's about the politician that he's going to make the, the promise i'm expecting. and he's never gonna delivery. and this is what we're living, the faith, democracy of the west and in asia, they're not naive. they don't want that system because if it doesn't deliver it, margaret did that. i'm glad that we were with this is what we heard from angel here . i mean, the way i look at very broadly is this is the, the failure in the end of neoliberalism. and this is kind of a last gasp here. it's really it when you, when we look at this gambit with ukraine, which is all intentional, this could have easily, easily been avoided. and we're talking about i containing china. this is their last throw of the dice here because they are a multi polar world is here, and it's something these people cannot except go ahead margaret, i just wanted to add about the bidding is to do some must have peaceful coexistence with other countries. this notion of controlling the whole world will do us all to

failure at the very least and war at the worst. yeah. yeah. we, we don't deserve these lead all the time watching us here. darky. see you next time . remember, are stuck rules calling with or little to muddy over there, boss, those with us, you talk video with look out to me, you up pools up at your school,

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