a bill and i guess my thought was an invalid again, dionte fortune. very up my bill at about this morning at 1st financial i was standing in an alley smoking a joint one day and a man came up to me and pulled the joint from my mouth. and he said, don't you know that that's what the capitalists and the jews want you to do. we were violent towards those people because we believe that were the superior race. we were here 1st and this is our country guns ammo. still tow doc martens,

tattooing violence or just prerequisite to enter or exit 3 walked off like you see this looking to face about it. i fear he feared me being part of that movement. i got to feel a sense of power. when i felt powerless. i got attention when i felt invisible and accepted when i felt that we had a strategy, we wanted to clean our image up and make our message more palatable to the masses. don't get tattoos don't shape your head. don't get arrested. go to college, join the military, keep your head down. go mainstream news. news

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the movement because only the guys who were in the movement could really understand what the guys who were currently getting out would feel like life after hate is an organization that was founded by for ex skinhead, neo nazi white supremacist in the us and canada. and they found each other and they knew that they wanted to help other guys get out. so the idea is to get them out, make, keep them safe and get that kind of support that they need from other performers in order to stay out with

. welcome or well, we're pioneer just where the 1st one is to do this for the 1st one. and quite frankly, probably the only ones doing it. and we're certainly the only ones driven by 100 percent formless at this point. even if your desire to do this is new and you don't have the experience. each of us in this room has the capability to help people where we once were decision or path and anyone should have to do a loan. and if there are people in this room who have to do it alone in the beginning, and you understand how difficult that was and what kind of critical role we can play in the lives of someone else. when i, my name is franklin jackson, philadelphia got in the movement in any age 13 going on 14 in the movement. i got very active, especially very violent can up. somebody went to prison and i was 17. as i got out of the movers. don't lose any bombing that made me reach out to people to help the

picture of the fireman right down the street, that, that little girl is something that will always stick with me. ended up going to prison for about 4 years. and i got all the skin movement, there's meaning behind the color of the tattoo. like if it's a solid black, tad to a person committed a murder and got away with hulu. i do some serious are not thankful i get that covered out. i have to look at it, no more went to treatment last year. and when i graduated, my reach out to white pastor hadn't been involved with them doing stuff. hire portland, trying to reach out and help other people that are struggling to come out of the movement. i was involved with the white area resisted skinheads, and emerson has in san diego for 13 or 14 years. we would do gay bashing runs and we would attack people just for the color of their skin. i

have left people laying there that i don't know if they lived or not. i was involved in the scan that seen from the mid eighty's all the way to the, to the mid ninety's. for 7 or 8 years i went through a disengagement, but i'd left the movement at the movement and left me. it was the birth of my, my daughter, you know, getting the little girl and the delivery room and my son was born 15 months later, they saw the magnificence of me when i couldn't see it. and they gave me that gift that allowed me to, we humanized i became a gang member. how about 18 years and sort of that kind of lifestyle in prison, june or home, stuff like that. after surviving a race right became pretty violent and aggressive and started started manifesting, to say towards whites as a result of that race, right? because of my role in the riot,

i quickly grew within the game one of the highest ranking members of my state. i had even made a vow that if i was going to rob steele, pillage whatever it was, nobody white we can start to feel special and what we're going through here and it is special, but it's not as unique as you might think. it's really a humanistic place. it's the same story. it's the same feelings it's, it's the human experience and hate no matter what. what flag you fly it under has a very similar approach. this inaugural gathering of the former's, i think, is an incredibly important you know, we were able to get and so far is just us as volunteers working together as a team and being able to handle the load. but that's not possible anymore. this countries and to far crisis

with we are being ethnically quinn. yeah. you know, a regular guy like to preserve ourselves. we've got a right to keep this nation, the nation that our forefathers in vision. that's what we're fighting for here. everyone moved together now in the 40 words, i want to secure the existence of the white race in the future for white children. that's what this is all about, is about stopping why genocide, sobbing multiculturalism american white working class is angry. they've been systematically ignored by both major parties for decades. now, i'm looking at these extreme white nationalist white premises here, nazi's. these guys who are active in the stream, right? the very, very end of

a continuum. because i want to know how they went from the center and drifted off there and ended up so far from what i consider to be the mainstream. because i think they can tell us a lot about what's going on in the mainstream as well. why would this group that seem so privileged feel themselves to be such victims? these guys are furious and in many cases they're kind of right to be furious. they've been delta bad. and you can understand the sense of this range without understanding the sense of entitlement that it's founded on. so when i say that their anger is real, it's because they feel like they've been dispossess something's taken from them. the the do me the language that they use is all a language of retrieving restoring, reclaiming your masculinity because you had it,

they took it away. now you've got to get it back. i think i like the the ah, the word that i that i would ever back down a little like mayor finer that i would ever got down when the governor of the state declare a state of emergency. if they think that they don't understand why they don't understand the all right, they don't understand some higher moves with

randy a sammy i just wanted to check in with you see how you're doing before we come over can be so good to meet your brother. okay. wait, great, our brother will be there in a few minutes. all right. it's the hardest thing i have ever made a good time. my young 1000 years was to get out of this. i was going to 20. i'm now going to lose family members that are in mentalism. when i was every friends i've just had for the last 6 years and they're all going to go are so just kind of recap and fresh out. fresh on like, i think you just like he one day to the next is still questions. things. yeah. but he, he went, he didn't go through

a period of questioning his membership. he went from being in to be in like almost instantaneous the same day. kind of thing. you know, he was got turned at the rally. the getting beat up. he was getting beat up through protester side of things. people were getting them in the house and people have to know that it's really ramp it in when people are getting out to turn to other things, alcohol, drug, other addictions. and so, you know, it's, it's, you know, this makes clean breaking. you know, it's, there's going to be a whole $180.00 on a lifestyle. my situation when i got out it was like, i'm alone out here. like i'm completely isolated. i'm alone. and i would try to tell people what my experience was like, but no one could. we leave, you know,

and it sounds like this guy that we're seeing right now is what i'm hearing this loan uncertainty. cut off. i think happy to know there are others out here to understand what it's like to be in the movement. to understand what it's like to get out of the movement. to understand what is like post change is possible, there is a way out there is life after have who in the ah

with industry to restore can just look up some of natalie muscles on noon. she kitty doesn't beating train. she'll own a nurse to me as possible. mamma cook girls goose creek summary tamika, but i possession of a basic one of the 2 pieces goes down to come from one to 3 for the cool position with you. but now it's not looking for the children to know for phones, the ride, something like that. and then we got that. what did i see or anything like that?

i had a little grain. lisa let me ask you like the racial and you always have been a little racist. yeah. yeah, yeah. and this kind of fell into the next step and you know, was in your like in your family and your community, it's ever ever so norma for you them. yeah, yeah. well, i'm way lighting way like i was afraid to be open about it every come. grace was a good person. the prism never collab person around with you know they get the walking already had i didn't, i need to know what i felt and what i believed. all right. love love. most guys in

the get out. they don't keep with it. i know if i, if i have a good person and that's what i have to do, to click back. oh, so how long over the whole course your life are you involved like actively as like a white supremacist michelle time? sure. it's all the time. we always make new ones. you know, makes it more fashionable, easy on the i know so just one big was the on the for i know i, michael i was like was coming off now to can i don't i will add it pointed up you know, 44 magnum, you know, long barely, you know, it's gonna take it everything inside. it kicked down and it came back. clean, clean sharp. how long you've been clean. now let's see. when we left a couple of years ago or for 3 years. you know, she up, she met home all day long into life boys doing this on this to call not, you know,

it's a lot of change is getting thrown at your right now. you know. yeah, yeah. a lot, a lot, lot using drugs, you know, familiar. he's gone and the racing was all correct, if you will, when you get it in lifeline. irreplaceable. you know, you're reaching out to them and you know, yeah, didn't, didn't, didn't do william and, you know, god coming to hit me and now there wasn't, wasn't that guy. you know, god, you not fearful as you know when you are definitely going to be down there. got real. got real quick. i can't imagine what, what, what the future holds. sure ma'am, but if it's anything like what we're seeing is good enough to glove, you know, one of the most struggle to keep going through scare selma. you're

joining that that, that group of men and women men who are facing the same, changed your face. right. i can't tell you how many hundreds of people who don't believe in the ideology of loss while they're in the movement are too afraid leave. are too afraid to leave for safety purposes. but they're also afraid to start over. they don't want to abandon that identity that they have or that community. and they stay in because they have nothing to go back to because they walked away from everything. when they joined up at the top. what do you think about a nation or political order that is racially, they are richard the what do you think of israel of have some coffee was talk. okay. the mike michael, hey,

nice to meet. you know, know what formats show us is that you can, you can think as, as low as human beings can think in some ways you can do horrible things and you can come out the other side. you should have been so badly broken that there's no way you could come back from this. if you did so can have that right. so can you, if you are going to pretend that this is simply an intellectual exercise, and you don't speak to the visceral experience that these guys have in the movement, you won't be able to reach that violence was fairly new to me. i know at the beginning i certainly enjoyed the adrenalin rush and the ability to instill fear in people that was like water to someone to be wandering the desert correlated factor and someone joining about when the extremist group with child trauma abuse could be coming from a broken home and drugs and alcohol. my case if there was abandonment,

going out the foster care my whole life in being physically abused as a kid by my an uncle and my cousins and stuff and i've cited since i was a kid, you know, and i grew up in the streets. i know my father loved us very much, but i didn't get to see him a whole lot when i was 10 walked in on him with another woman and then bang, that's when the the gone sell off the pedestal. we started to act out at school and to go down this rabbit whole of, of defiance and anger and confuse i was very confused in my dad. you know, i used to be like another guy being another guy. and barbara. no i, i walk in and you know, it's not in basically knocked me out with a punch. i'm out fade, the black. they form a very unhealthy identity about themselves. they're not good enough. they're not smart enough. they're not pretty enough. they're on level. they're less than all my

friends in the gang as a young kid, as a young man as an older man. we all have very similar experiences. nobody use words like trauma or abuse or child abuse abandoned man. my father wasn't there for me. no one could talk about that. it was just like we, we stuff it was depress it. the shame was, i think, compiled with humiliation. if you couldn't put it away and you couldn't be violent, we live our lives. and until we heal that shame in reaction to in another way is to adopt an ideology which tells you you're greater that that's what i did feel like other people think they're not. and here's a group that comes along to we think you are something that we think you're better, your special it was my family. it was my identity, it became the person who i was for 8 years. i found comfort and mostly because i

was angry at myself, and my parents being a part of a hate movement, gave me an excuse to kind of remove my own pain and put it on other people so that i could project that and not feel it myself it's sometimes hard to, to really look inward and see that maybe the cause of your problem isn't the other, the ideology as secondary. and i'm talking about every type of extreme, whether it's fundamental religious ideology or hateful or racist ideology. that's something that is just a layer on top of that group here and most when i got in prison and mississippi, the reverse racism is so hard core. i got everything from

a, from a number. oh wait, oh, good behind here. so i figured the best statement i can make and i can join the most vicious thing i can think of and let them know if you touch me again, i'm going to kill you. and nothing said that message better than the brother. much easier to recruit inside there. now, when it is easy to exploit, you know, you have that person 247 around you. you know, it's not like outside where they can go home, get a break and maybe make a difference. and then you want to do and there is perfect. i guess you'd be here on around one and then not have a covered you know, hidden view all my touches. so i used to be the guy with a swastika on that one down the street and people would pull the kids or me literally, i've seen people pull their kids away from. and i say this. so yeah, i get that reaction to somebody who's looking down and like live down there. so now

i try to use as much as possible. thank you that you wanted me to be able to get some of this remote cover up. i wouldn't be live changing because i people will never see that in the me. that doesn't call without putting 1st. when you come from nothing. you really have gotten up and a little bit power. you know, i think it's nice and, you know, those good to think you're in control of something one does the whole things about who's the power of how, how power so yeah, it's hard to leave that. it's hard to give it up. you know, okay. i will say well with all that, but here's the thing. i've also taken all the rooms, i've had everything, all the stress, i've been through all years of torture for them to say, okay, that was for nothing. i'm gonna leave it alone and go over here and be nobody. i don't think there is a single group in the united states that i know of that can be accurately described

as white supremacist. the white supremacists is presumably someone who wants to rule over people of other races. that's a term from the history books. yeah. in terms of living in african climate, it's still lot easier. it's why they're, they're different. like foods falling off the trees. yeah. black and white, have you looked at the victim service? i've looked at a lot of victim survey. ok. you're looking at how many white male on black female rates were there. and the last 10 years, i don't know, approaching the euro. okay. okay, so there are huge discrepancies in terms of crime. and that's our fax. but you think that they're more predisposed to, to being criminals? yes, africans. yes. or do you think it's just what it is? i don't blame them. you don't think it's a, you don't think of a product of our systemic failures and law enforcement justice system and the

schooling system. and the fact that up until very recently, very recently in our history where parents were alive, they weren't allowed to have the same access. the white people, africans, i, i think a lot of conservatives sale africans was destroyed by the welfare states. i don't really buy that. i think there was a certain, i think they were destroyed by slavery. howard immigrants affecting you right now. here in whitefish white fish is deeply segregated. do you think we need to bring in more syrian right? no, i don't think we need to bring in anybody, but i also don't think we need to exclude anybody if they wish to come in. right. how do you feel about that? well, i would ultimately exclude people. yeah. but i'm willing to say, i'm willing to say it, like i'm willing to defend the community. and most people, what i'm doing everything i can to protect my people in civilization. i went down a path and like you, i was passionate. i was willing to die for it. i was willing to do what it took to to, to make the vision come through a reality. i think your last,

like i was for 8 years, and i want to know what you down the path. i have the higher ideal of what the right white race can be, and i actually have a superhuman ideal. i'm not caught up in, you know, justice or security or comfort. so white people are just, they're so good in so nice. it once me, it makes me want to puke they, they, they, they really are accepting towards the other. they want to trust people. but you also need people like me who are guardians of these nice people. we live in a country that's rich by it's diverse and had a can only way it's going to, it's going to become that way as if it comes down to a civil war. i think there will be a terrible presentation. i don't know when it's going to happen. it might happen tomorrow. it might happen in 50 years or so on. but in this thing can go on. what do you think you really going to accomplish and already accomplish so much like what identity and his own the all right. and i mean not to be good to go,

but my name are now household to rooms to meet me. what endo, to create a more beautiful world that is exclusive of everybody. but why people ah, with your own i was showing wrong when i just don't know. i mean you world, if you have to say proud disdain becomes the advocate and engagement,

it was betrayal. when so many find themselves worlds apart, we choose to look for common ground. and united states has always had a variety of tools to use and tags on other countries. economic sanctions or are often just the beginning. another thing you like to do is place some military pressure on the country that you're talking about here. and there has to be an effort to demonize that country and the leader of that country to talk to. we have a responsibility for the whole world and we need to make room for the rest.

because without us there will be 2. ah, a ball of desperation, amid the destruction of the ukrainian military's deadly shelling of civilian areas and the don, yes, republic group. despite the carnage, the white house is to send a new batch of advanced heavy weapons to ukraine, reportedly off the clear from a state wouldn't use the arms to attack russian territory. plus the ominous warnings of some a few short days go on hated as western leaders press on with a ban on russian oil import.