ah i was standing in an alley smoking a joint one day and a man came up to me and pulled the joint from my mouth and he said, don't you know that that's what the capitalists and the jews want you to do. for we were violent towards those people because we believe that were the superior race. we were here 1st and this is our pantry, guns, ammo, still tow doc martens, tattooing violence or just prerequisite to enter or exit tree walked off like i could see this looking to cease. i fear like he feared me being part of that movement. i got to feel a sense of power. when i felt powerless, i got attention when i felt invisible and accepted when i felt that we had

a strategy, we wanted to clean our image up and make our message more palatable to the masses. don't get tattoos don't shape your head. don't get arrested. go to college, join the military, keep your head down. go mainstream the news .

ah i began to hear about these organizations that were trying to help guys get out of the movement because only the guys who were in the movement could really understand what the guys who are currently getting out. what would feel like, what life after hate is an organization that was founded by for ex skinhead neo nazi white supremacist in the us and canada.

and they found each other and they knew that they wanted to help other guys get out . so the idea is to get them out, make, keep them safe and get that kind of support that they need from other performers in order to stay out with . welcome and we will stop. yeah, well, we're pioneer just we're the 1st ones to do this. we're the 1st one and quite frankly, probably the only ones doing it. and we're certainly the only ones driven by 100 percent formless. and just in your desire to do this is new and you don't have the experience. each of us in this room has the capability to help people where we,

once we're, this isn't a path and anyone should have to do a loan. and if there are people in this room who had to do it alone in the beginning and you understand how difficult that was and what kind of critical role we can play in the lives of someone else, why i'm name is franklin jackson, philadelphia got in the movement at any age, 13 going on 14, in the movement, i got very active, especially very violent kidnapped. somebody went to prison and i was 17. as i got out of them when i was oklahoma city bombing, that made me reach out to people to help the picture of the fireman right down the street. that, that little girl is something that will always stick with me. ended up going to prison for about 4 years, and i got all the skinhead movement. there's meaning behind the color of the tattoo, like if it's a solid black, tad to a person committed a murder and got away with hulu. i do some serious

things or not a st for i get that covered up. i have to look at it in a more when to treatment last year. and when i graduate my reached out to my pastor having been involved with them doing stuff. hire portland, trying to reach out and help other people that are struggling to come out of the movement. i was involved with a white area resistance can, has, and emerson has in san diego for 13 or 14 years. we would do gay bashing runs and we would attack people just for the color of their skin. i have left people laying there that i don't know if they lived or not. i was involved in the skin that seen from the mid eighty's all the way to the, to the mid ninety's. for 7 or 8 years i went through a disengagement, but i'd left the movement of the movement and left me. it was the birth of my, my daughter, you know,

get enough little girl and the delivery room and my son was born 15 months later, they saw the magnificence of me when i couldn't see it. and they gave me that gift that allowed me to, we humanized i became a gang member probably about 18 years inside of that kind of lifestyle and prison, june home, stuff like that. after surviving a race, right became pretty violent and aggressive and started started manifesting like those who towards why it's as a result of that race. right? because of my role in the riot, i quickly grew within the game one of the highest ranking members in my state. i had even made a vow that if i was going to rob steele, pillage whatever it was, never the whites and we start to feel special and what we're going through here and in this special. but it's not as unique as you might think. it's really

a humanistic play. it's the same story. it's the same feelings. it's to human experience and hate no matter what. what flag you fly it under has a very similar approach. this inaugural gathering. performers think it's incredibly important. you know, we were able to get and so far, just us as volunteers working together as a team and being able to handle the load that's not possible anymore. as countries in to far crisis the we are being ethnically own nation. we've got like the reserve her right to keep this nation the nation that are for

product. envision that's what we're fighting for here. everyone together now saying before the words, i want to secure the existence of the white race and the future for white children . that's what this is all about, is about stopping white genocide solving multiculturalism. american white working class is angry. they, they've been systematically ignored by both major parties for decades. now, i'm looking at these extreme white nationalist, white supremacy or not see these guys were active in the stream, right? the very, very end of a continuum because i want to know how they went from the center and drifted off there and ended up so far from what i consider to be the mainstream. because i think they can tell us a lot about what's going on in the mainstream as well. why with this group that seems so privileged, feel themselves to be such victims. these guys are furious, and in many cases they're kind of right to be furious. they've been delta bad and

you can understand the sense of this range without understanding the sense of entitlement that it's founded on. when i say that their anger is real, it's because they feel like they've been dispossess something's been taken from them. a with the language that they use, it's all a language of retrieving restoring, reclaiming your masculinity because you had it, they took it away. now you've got to get it back. a with

that idea that i would ever back down a little like mayor finer that i would ever got down when the governor of the state declare a bit of emergency. if they think that they don't understand why they don't understand the all right, they don't understand this entire moving with randy. hey, it's tammy. i just wanted to check in with you see how you're doing before we come over we can be so good to meet your brother. okay.

wait, great. our brother will be there in a few minutes. it's the hardest thing i have ever made at the time. my young 900 years was to get out of this. i was going to 20 is i'm now going to lose family members as well as every friends i've just had for the last 6 years. and they're all going to go are. so just kind of recap and fresh out, fresh on like, i think you just like one day to the next is still questions. things. yeah. but he like he went, he didn't go through a period of questioning has membership. he went from being in to be in all like, almost instantaneous the same day. kind of thing. you know, he was got turned at the rally, the the getting beat up. he was getting beat up through protester side of things. people are

clicking or mimic house and people have to know that it's really ramp it in when people are getting out to turn to other things, to alcohol, drug, other addictions. and so it's, it's, you know, this makes clean breaking. it's, you know, it's, there's going to be issues that a whole $180.00 on a lifestyle. use my situation when i got out it was like, i'm alone out here. like i'm completely isolated. i'm alone. and i would try to tell people what my experience was like, but no one could we leave, you know, and it sounds like this guy that we're seeing right now is what i'm hearing. there's loan uncertain, she, you know, cut off. i think happy to know there are others out here to understand what it's like to be in the movement. to understand where does like you get out of the movement. to understand what is like post change as possible. there is a way out there is life. i have to have

me o me release a russian state never. i've gone in san scheme again. the 50000 speedy will go up and we will ben in the european union, the kremlin machine, the state on russia today. and archie spoke neck, given our video agency, roughly all fan to on youtube because she did

a request for the who is the aggressor today? i'm authorizing additional strong sanctions today. russia is the country with the most sanctions imposed against it. a number that's constantly growing up in your list, of course renewed as you speak on the bill in your senior, mostly mine, or wish you were banding all in ports of russian oil and gas, new g. i. g, of course, with the literature with joe by imposing these sanctions on russia has destroyed the american economy. so there's your boomerang.

let me ask you like the racial and you always kind of in a little racist. yeah. and this kind of fell into exceptions. you know, was in your like in your family with your community is every other everywhere. norma for you then? yeah, yeah. well, i'm way, way. i was afraid to be open about every come grace one's a good person. the prism number still that person around with you know, they get mishawaka already had it. i didn't, i needed to know what i felt, what i believed. all right. love most guys in the get out. they don't keep with it . i know if i, if i have a good person, that's what i have to do to click back. oh,

so how long over the whole course your life for you involved actively as like a white supremacist michelle time? sure. so we always make new ones, you know, make them more fashionable. usually. i know. so just one big was the only for i know i, michael i was like was mccullen. so was off now to can. i don't fight both had pointed up, you know, 40 from magnum, you know, long, barely. you know, it's gonna take everything inside. it kicked down. it came back, clean, clean, sharp. how long you've been clean. now. let's see. when we left a couple of years ago or for 3 years, you know, she not, she met me all day long into life. was this unless it's why it's called nazi?

no, it's a lot of change is getting thrown at you right now. you know? yeah. yeah. a lot, lot, you know, not using drugs, you know, it's a familiarity is gone and the racing is all correct. if you will. you guys have been lifeline. irreplaceable. you know, you're reaching out though, man. you know, you didn't, didn't, didn't do william the 1st, you know, you know, god coming to hit me and now there wasn't, wasn't that guy. you know, god, you know that fearful as you know, when you called him today, we're gonna, we're definitely gonna be down there. they got real. got real quick. i can't imagine what, what, what the future holds for you ma'am. but if it's anything like what we're seeing up so, you know, one of the most struggle to keep going through scares, hell, you're join in that, that, that group of men and women men who are facing the same change that you're facing

right now. i can't tell you how many hundreds of people who don't believe in the ideology of loss while they're in the movement are too afraid to leave. are too afraid to leave for safety purposes. but they're also afraid to start over and they don't want to abandon that identity that they have or that community. and they stay in because they have nothing to go back to because they walked away from everything. when they joined up at the top. what do you think about a nation or a political order that is racially, they are richard. what would you think of israel? let's have some coffee. let's talk the like lego. hey, mr. major. know, don't know what form or show us is that you can,

you can think as, as low as human beings can think. in some ways you can do horrible things and you could come out the other side. you should have been so badly broken that there's no way you could come back from this if you did. so can he. and right, so can you, if you are going to pretend that this is simply an intellectual exercise, and you don't speak to the visceral experience that these guys have in the movement, you won't be able to reach them. violence was fairly new to me. i know at the beginning i certainly enjoyed the adrenalin rush in the ability to instill fear and people that was like water to someone to be wandering. the desert correlated factor and someone joining about when the extremist group with childhood trauma abuse could be coming from a broken home and drugs and alcohol. my case of it was abandoned, growing up to foster care my whole life. and being physically abused as

a kid by my an uncle and my cousins and stuff. and i've cited since i was a kid, you know, and i grew up in the streets. no, my father loved us very much, but i didn't get to see him a whole lot. when i was 10 walked in on him with another woman and then bang, that's when the god fell off the pedestal. we started to act out at school and to go down this rabbit whole of, of defiance and anger and confuse i was very confused. my dad used to be me like another guy being another guy. and barbara. no, i, i walk in and you know, it's not in basically knocked me out. will punch an out phase black. they form a very unhealthy identity about themselves. they're not good enough. they're not smart enough. they're not pretty enough. they're on level, they're less than all my friends in the gang as a young kid, as a young man, as an older man. we all have very similar experiences. nobody use words like trauma

or abuse or child abuse, abandonment. my father wasn't there for me. no one could talk about that. it was just like we, we stuff it, we suppress it. the shame was, i think me compiled with humiliation if you couldn't put away and you couldn't be violent, we live our lives. and until we heal that shame in reaction to it. another way is to adopt an ideology which tells you you're greater that that's what i did feel like other people think they're nothing. and here's a group that comes along and says, we think you're something that we think you're better, your special it was my family. it was my identity, it became the person who i was for 8 years. i found comfort mostly because i was angry at myself and my parents, and being a part of a hate movement,

gave me an excuse to kind of remove my own pain and put it on other people so that i could project that and not feel it myself it's sometimes hard to, to really look inward and see that maybe the cause of your problem isn't the other . the ideology is secondary. and i'm talking about every type of extreme, whether it's fundamental religious ideology or hateful or racist ideology. that's something that is just a layer on top of that here and most when i got in prison and mississippi, the reverse racism is so hard core. i got everything from my home from a number. oh wait. oh,

good bahama here. so i figured the best statement i could make and enjoying the most vicious thing i can think of and let them know if you touch me again, i'm going to kill you. and nothing said that message, better in the brotherhood. much easier to recruit in southern when again, it is easy to exploit. you know, you have that person 247 around you. you know, it's not like outside where they can go home, get a break in many fake, a different thought and then you want to do. and there is perfect. i guess you'd be watched you're here around. and then i know recovered, you know, hidden in all my touches. so i used to be the guy with a swastika, all my neck down the street and people would pull their kids literally. i've seen people pull their kid away from and i say this so yeah, i get that reaction to somebody's looking down and like live down there. so now child, you know, teachers like, you know,

most of the possible. thank you that you wanted me to be able to get some of this remote cover. i wouldn't be a life changing because i people will never see that any of them doesn't call without a problem 1st. when you come from nothing you really have gotten up and a little bit power and i think it's nice and you're good to think you're in control or something that's the whole thing about who's you know, power of how, how power, you know. so yeah, it's hard to leave that, it's hard to give it up the oh okay. i will say with all that, but i've shared everything i've also taken on the bruises and everything and all the stress i've been through years of torture for them to say, okay, that was for nothing. i'm gonna leave it alone and go over here and be in nobody. i don't think there is a single group in the united states and i know of that can be accurately described as white supremacist. the white supremacists is presumably someone who wants to

rule over people of other races. that's a term from the history books. yeah. in terms of living in african climate, it's a lot easier. it's why there are different, like foods falling off the trees. yeah. black and white, have you looked at the victim service? i've looked at a lot of victim server. ok. you're looking at how many male on black female rates were there. and the last 10 years, i don't know, approaching the euro. okay. okay, so like there are huge discrepancies in terms of crime. and that's our fax. but you think that they're more predisposed to to being criminals? yes. africans. yes. or do you think it's this is what it is. i don't blame you. don't think if you don't think of a product of our systemic failures and law enforcement justice system and, and schooling system. and the fact that up until very recently, very recently in our history where parents were alive,

they weren't allowed to have the same access that africans. i, i think a lot of conservatives will sail africa will destroy by the welfare states. i don't really buy that. i think there was a certain, i think they were destroyed by slavery. howard immigrants affecting you right now. here in whitefish white fish is deeply segregated. do you think we need to bring in more syrian right? no, i don't think we need to bring in anybody, but i also don't think we need to exclude anybody if they wish to come in. right. how do you feel about that? well, i would ultimately exclude people. yeah. but i'm willing to say, i'm willing to say it, like i'm willing to defend the community. and most people don't recognize that i'm doing everything i can to protect my people in civilization. i went on a path and like you, i was passionate. i was willing to die for it. i was willing to do what it took to to, to make the vision come through a reality. i think your last, like i was for 8 years, and i want to know what you down that path. i higher ideal of what the right white

race can be, and i actually have a super human ideal. i'm not caught up in, you know, justice or security, your comfort. so white people are just, they're so good in so nice. it once me, it makes me want to puke they, they, they, they really are accepting towards the other. they want to trust people. but you also need people like me who are guardians of these nice people. we live in a country that's written by it's diverse and editing the only way it's going to, it's going to become that ways. if it comes down to a civil war, i think there will be a terrible presentation. i don't know when it's going to happen. it might happen tomorrow, it might happen in 50 years or so on, but this thing can go on, what do you think you're really going to accomplish? and we've already accomplished so much like what identity syrian is on the. all right, and i mean not to be good to go, but my name are now household to rooms to meet me. what endo,

to create him a beautiful world. that's exclusive of everybody, but why people blue ah, the u. s. b, a in pushy. russia is the situation and a, but that was not, excuse exactly, you know, all the for sure. you have now after iraq afghanistan strategy, what do you want to do other country to fight their war? we can with doubles are going to put, well, talk about a week

with a ford edge that also choice issue somebody over there, both of those with a, with the and i do stories, you know,

that way. i don't mind you know, there was no program when i left i kind of and all of us that life after have kind of stumbled our way through it. and then we can take the lessons that we've learned from that and shrink the timeframe down. so there's less was less wandering in the wilderness, so to speak. when i was in the move in the last 2 years, and before i left, i was struggling with do i want to leave? pardon me, want to leave another part in it has been battle with us. if i leave, i had no fall back on that deposit. do i have nobody to go to? you know i lived around the last 7 years. i have nothing. sometimes it's hard if they've got a swastika tattooed on their neck, it's hard for them, but just to say, i don't do that anymore. it's kind of a long process. it's not like you just leave it on.