ukrainians, look at our situation. the u. s. must not leave us in an uncertain manner. we must not be forgotten because of ukrainians. what saw a difference from ukrainians? what is this double game? yes, i am on without doing dahan young man, the whole world in particular, the u. s. was responsible for a vacuum eating afghans. now they're focusing on ukraine. they now must buy attention to us again. melinda, it's kathy, i have worked with americans for 18 years. we want americans to evacuate us as soon as possible. our children are being deprived of education, while living in an uncertain situation for 89 months would be do not, not a dark side of the american experiment and focus next, neo nazi hate grips. we examined how is some members molars to change their lives around on, or not a force for good in their communities, despite pressure from their peers? not documentary rad. ah,

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after iraq afghanistan strategy where they use. ringback use other countries to fight their war. we can move the i was standing in an alley, smoking a joint one day and a man came up to me and pulled a joint from my mouth. and he said, don't you know that that's what the capitalists and the jews want you to do. we were violent towards those people because we believe that were the superior race. we were here 1st and this is our pantry. guns ammo still tow doc martens,

tattooing violence just just prerequisite to enter or exit free. walked off like i could see this looking to face about that fear like he feared me being part of that movement. i got to feel a sense of power. when i felt powerless, i got attention when i felt invisible and accepted when i felt that we had a strategy, we wanted to clean our image up and make our message more palatable to the masses. don't get tattoos don't shape your head. don't get arrested. go to college, join the military, keep your head down. go mainstream. ah

i began to hear about these organizations that were trying to help guys get out of

the movement because only the guys who were in the movement could really understand what the guys who were currently getting out. what would feel like, what life after hate is an organization that was founded by for ex skinhead neo nazi white supremacist in the us and canada. and they found each other and they knew that they wanted to help other guys get out . so the idea is to get them out, make, keep them safe, and get that kind of support that they need from other performers in order to stay out with . welcome, you're welcome,

ma'am. we're pioneer just we're the 1st ones to do this for the 1st one. and quite frankly, probably the only ones doing it. and we're certainly the only ones driven by 100 percent formless. and this point in your desire to do this is new and you don't have the experience. each of us in this room has the capability to help people where we want we're, this isn't a path that anyone should have to do alone. and if there are people in this room have to do it alone in the beginning, then you understand how difficult that was. and what kind of critical role we can play in the lives of someone else. when i was trying to leverage actually, philadelphia got in the movement in any age 13 going on 14 in the movement, i got very active, especially very violent. kidnap somebody went to prison and i was 17. as i got out of them when it was douglas, any bombing that made me reach out to people to help the picture of the fireman run

down the street. that, that little girl is something that will always stick with me. ended up going to prison for about 4 years. and that's when i got involved the skinhead movement. there's meaning behind the color of the tattoo. like if it's a solid black tattoo. a person committed a murder and got away with hulu. i did some serious are not thankful i get that covered up. i'll have to look at it in a more went to treatment last year. and when i graduated, i reached out to white pastor having been involved with them doing stuff. hire portland, trying to reach out and help other people that are struggling to come out of the movement. i was involved with the white area resisted skin has, and emerson has in san diego for 13 or 14 years. we would do gay bashing runs and we would attack people just for the color of their skin. i have left people laying there that i don't know if they lived or not. i was

involved in the skin that same from mid eighty's all the way to the, to the mid ninety's. for 7 or 8 years i went through a disengagement, but i'd left the movement. but the movement had left me. it was the birth of my, my daughter, you know, getting the little girl and the delivery room and my son was born 15 months later, they saw the magnificence of me when i couldn't see it. and they gave me that gift that allowed me to, we humanized i became a gang member. so probably about 18 years inside of that kind of lifestyle. and i was prison, june home, stuff like that. after surviving race became pretty violent and aggressive and started started manifesting his head towards whites as a result of that race. right? because of my role in the riot, i quickly grew within the game one of the highest ranking during members of my

state. i had even made a vow that if i was going to rob steele kelly or whatever it was going to be white and we start to feel special in what we're going through here. and it is special, but it's not as unique as you might think. it's really a humanistic plight. it's the same story. it's the same feeling it's, it's the human experience and hate no matter what. what flag you fly it under has a very similar approach this inaugural gathering performers. i think it's incredibly important. you know, we were able to get and so far it just says volunteers working together as a team and being able to handle the load. but that's not possible anymore. as countries in to far crisis. the news

that we are being ethnically when they are going to preserve herself right to keep this nation the nation that are for product . envision that's what we're fighting for here. everyone together now saying before the words i want to secure the existence of the white race in the future for white children. that's what this is all about. is about stopping white genocide solving multiculturalism american white working classes, angry. they, they've been systematically ignored by both major parties for decades. now, i'm looking at these extreme white nationalist flights, premise, se, or nazi's, these guys who are active in the stream, right to very, very end of a continuum. because i want to know how they went from the center and drifted off

there and ended up so far from what i consider to be the mainstream. because i think they can tell us a lot about what's going on in the mainstream as well. why would this group that seem so privileged field themselves to be such victims? these guys are furious, and in many cases they're kind of right to be furious. they've been dealt a bad hand. you can understand the sense of this range without understanding the sense of entitlement that it's founded on. so when i say that their anger is real, it's because they feel like they've been dispossess something's been taken from them. the the me the language that they use, it's all a language of retrieving restoring, reclaiming your masculinity because you had it, they took it away. now you've got to get it back on

the news. but i did that. i would never back down so little like may or signer that i would ever back down when the governor of the state declare a state of emergency. if they've got they don't understand what's in my heart cuz they don't understand the all right. they don't understand this entire moving with

randy sammy, i just wanted to check in with you see how you're doing before we come over be so good to meet you, brother. yeah. okay, great. yeah. our brother will be there in a few minutes. all right. it's the hardest thing i have ever made a good time. my young 900 years was to get out of this. i was going to 20. i'm now going to lose family members that are mentalism. when all is, every friends i've just had for the last 6 years and they're all going to go are so just kind of recap and fresh out. fresh on like, i think you just like one day to the next as still questions, things. yeah. but he, he went, he didn't go through a period of questioning his membership. he went from being in to me and i'll like,

almost instantaneous the same day. kind of thing. you know, he was got turned at the raleigh, the getting beat up. he was getting beat up through protester side of things. people were getting, remember people have to know that it's really ramp it in the people are getting out to turn to other things, to alcohol, drug, other addictions. and so it's, it's, you know, it's, this makes clean breaking and so yeah it's, there's going to be a whole $180.00 on a lifestyle my situation when i got out it was like, i'm alone out here. like i'm completely isolated. i'm alone. and i would try to tell people what my experience was like, but no one could we leave, you know, and it sounds like this guy that we're seeing right now is what i'm hearing is loan

uncertainty. you know, cut off. i think happy to know the others are here to understand what it's like to be in the movement. to understand what else i can get out of the movement. to understand what is like post change is possible. there's a way out there is life after, hey, you know, with a what we've got to do is identify the threats that we have. it's crazy. even foundation, let it be an arms race is on, often very dramatic development. only personally and getting to resist. i don't see how that strategy will be successful, very difficult time time to sit down and talk

with let me ask you the racial and you always have a little racist. yeah. yeah, yeah. this kind of fell into the next step and you know, was in your like in your family with your community, it's every other everywhere. arm of them. yeah. yeah. well i'm way lighting way. i was afraid to be open about every come grace one's a good person. the prism number still out prison around with

you know they get mishawaka already had i didn't, i need to know what i felt, what i believe. all right. love love. most guys in the get out, they don't keep with it. i know if i, if i have a good person, that's what i have to do to click back. oh, so how long over the whole course your life are you involved like actively as like a white supremacist michelle time? sure. it's all, it's all. we always make new ones. you know, make them more fashionable, easy only. i know. so just one big was the only for i know i, michael i was like was coming off now to can i don't fight will had pointed up, you know, 44 magnum, you know, long, barely, you know, it's gonna take everything inside. it kicked down and it came back, clean, clean sharp. how long you've been clean. now. let's see. when

we left a couple years ago are for 3 years. you know, she's not, she met me all day long into life boys do this unless i call not you know, so a lot of change is getting thrown at your right now. you know. yeah, yeah, a lot, a lot, lot using drugs, you know, it's a familiarity is gone and the racing was all correct if you will, when you get it in lifeline. irreplaceable. you know, you're reaching out though, man, you know, you didn't, didn't, didn't do william in the past. you know, god coming to hit me and now there wasn't, wasn't that guy. you know, it was god you fearful as you know, when you called in today we are definitely going to be down there. got real. got real quick. i can't imagine what, what, what the future holds. sure ma'am, but if it's anything like what we're seeing is good enough to glove, you know,

all of us struggle keep going through, you know, scares hello. you're joining that, that, that group of men and women men who are facing the same change that you're facing right? ready i can't tell you how many hundreds of people who don't believe in the ideology of loss while they're in the movement are too afraid to leave. or to afraid to leave for safety purposes. but they're also afraid to start over. they don't want to abandon that identity that they have or that community. and they stay in because they have nothing to go back to because they walked away from everything . when they joined up at the top. what do you think about a nation or political order that is racially they richard the what, what do you think of israel of have some coffee was talk

the like lego. hey, mr. mitchell. oh no, no, no. what form or show was is that you can, you can think as, as low as human beings can think in some ways you can do horrible things and you can come out the other side. you should have been so badly broken that there's no way you could come back from this. if you did so can have that right. so can you, if you are going to pretend that this is simply an intellectual exercise and you don't speak to the visceral experience that these guys have in the movement, you won't be able to reach that violence was fairly new to me. i know at the beginning i certainly enjoyed the adrenalin rush and the ability to instill fear in people that was like water to someone to be wandering the desert correlated factor and someone joining about when the extremist group with child trauma abuse could be

coming from a broken home and drugs and alcohol, my case there was abandonment, going out the foster care my whole life and being physically abused as a kid by my an uncle and my cousins and stuff. and i've cited since i was a kid, you know, and i grew up in the streets. i know my father loved us very much, but i didn't get to see him a whole lot when i was 10. walked in on him with another woman. and then bang, that's when the god fell off the pedestal, we started to act out at school and to go down this rabbit whole of, of defiance and anger and confuse i was very confused in my bad, you know, i used to be like another guy being another guy and barbara, that's no line. i walk in and you know, it's not in basically knoxville will punch. i'm out for the black. they form very

unhealthy identity about themselves. they're not good enough. they're not smart enough. they're not pretty enough. they're on level, they're less than all my friends in the gang as a young kid, as a young man, as an older man. we all have very similar experiences. nobody use words like trauma or abuse or child abuse, abandon, man. my father wasn't there for me. no one could talk about that. it was just like we, we stuff it was depress it. the shame was, i think, compiled with humiliation. if you couldn't put it away and you couldn't be violent, we live our lives. and until we heal that shame in reaction to in another way is to adopt an ideology which tells you you're greater that that's what i did feel like other people think they're not. and here's a group that comes along and says, we think you are something that we think you're better, your special it was my family. it was my identity,

it became the person who i was for 8 years. i found comfort and mostly because i was angry at myself and my parents and being a part of a hate movement, gave me an excuse to kind of remove my own pain and put it on other people so that i could project that and not feel it myself, it's sometimes hard to, to really look inward and see that maybe the cause of your problem isn't the other . the ideology is secondary and i'm talking about every type of extreme is whether it's fundamental religious ideology or hateful or racist ideology. that's something that is just a layer on top of that pretty fast here. and most when i got in

prison and mississippi, the reverse racism is so hard core. i got everything from a, from a number, you know, so all the way up behind here. so i figured the best statement i can make and i can join the most vicious thing i can think of and let them know if you touch me again, i'm going to kill you. and nothing said that message better than the brother. much easier to recruit in southern now, when it is easy to exploit, you know, you have that person 247 around you. you know, it's not like outside where they can go home, get a break and maybe make a difference. and then you want to do and there is perfect. i guess you'd be just while you're here around. and then i know recovered, you know, hidden in all my touches. so i used to be the guy with

a swastika. i mean that down the street and people would pull their kids literally . i've seen people pull their kids away from me and i say this. so yeah, i get that reaction to somebody who's looking down in life live down there. so now i try to utah teamsters like, you know, most of the possible thank you that you wanted me to be able to get some of this remote covered up and you know, i wouldn't be life changing because i can see that it doesn't come without putting 1st, when you come from nothing, you really have gotten up and a little bit power, you know, it's nice and you know, those good to think you're in control or something. that's the whole thing about the power of power. power power, you know. so yeah, it's hard to leave that, it's hard to give it up, you know, okay. i will say with all that, but i've shared everything i've also taken on the bruise of had everything, all the stress. i've been through all years of torture for them to say ok,

that was for nothing. i'm gonna leave it alone and go over here and be a nobody. i don't think there is a single group in the united states that i know of that can be accurately described as white supremacist. the white supremacists is presumably someone who wants to rule over people of other races. that's a term from the history books. yeah. in terms of living in african climate, it's a lot easier. that's why they're, they're different. like foods falling off the trees. yeah. black and white. you looked at the victim service. i've looked at a lot of victim survey. ok. you're looking at how many male on black female rates were there, and the last 10 years, i don't know, approaching them 0. okay. okay. so there are huge discrepancies in terms of crime. and that's our fax. but you think that they're more predisposed to, to being criminals. yes, africans,

yes or do you think it's this is what it is. i don't blame you don't think it's a you don't think of a product of our systemic failures in law enforcement and justice system and in the schooling system. and the fact that up until very recently, very recently in our history where parents were alive, they weren't allowed to have the same access. that way we'll have to can i, i think a lot of conservatives will sail africa will destroy by the welfare states. i don't really buy that. i think there was a certain, i think they were destroyed by slavery. howard immigrants affecting you right now. here in whitefish white fish is deeply segregated. do you think we need to bring in more syrian right now? i don't think we need to bring in anybody, but i also don't think we need to exclude anybody if they wish to come in. right. how do you feel about that? well, i would ultimately exclude people. yeah. but i'm willing to say, i'm willing to say it, like i'm willing to defend the community. and most people, what i'm doing everything i can to protect my people in civilization. i went down

a path and like you, i was passionate. i was willing to die for it. i was willing to do what it took to to, to make the vision come through a reality. i think your last, like i was for 8 years, and i want to know what you down the path. i have the higher ideal of what the right white race can be. and i actually have a super human ideal. i'm not caught up in, you know, justice or security or comfort. so white people are just, they're so good in so nice. it once me, it makes me want to puke they, they, they, they really are accepting towards the other. they want to trust people. but you also need people like me who are guardians of these nice people. we live in a country that's actually british by it's diverse and had a community way. it's going to, it's going to become that way. if it comes down to a civil war, i think there will be a terrible presentation. i don't know when it's going to happen. it might happen tomorrow, it might happen in 50 years or so on. but in this thing can go on,

what do you think you're really going to accomplish? and i've already accomplished so much like what identity and his own the. all right, and i mean not to be good to go, but my name are now household to rooms to meet me. what endo, to create a more beautiful world. that's exclusive of everybody. but why people ah, a in pushing russia into the situation and a, but that was not, excuse exactly, you know, all the data. and unfortunately, you, well, after iraq afghanistan strategy with a huge profit, they want to do other countries to fight their war with

. i think will this fuss around next. rom supply. c crane has only one goal. that is to drag out the military conflict as long as possible. in his 1st interview, since the start of the conflict, vladimir putin takes aim of the huge amounts of western arms being shipped to ukraine. claims russian defences are quote, cracking them like nuts. also ahead. ah, 5 civilians are killed this weekend and yet people as republicans under ukrainian shelling, according to local officials, we report from the scene all around. you can see this is a residential area very.