is nato on the same page as the by diminish ahead? well, i think i'm short alert. does seem to be on the same page as the buying administration because the united states, i think i really doesn't care about your grade. i think it just simply wants to extend this war for as long as possible. however much death and destruction is wrong. as a consequence. they don't care. i mean, when a lawyer in austin, the defense secretary said, we want to weaken russia. that's obviously not the policy, it's even the biden try to deny it in his head last week. but that's what the united states is doing. now. the europeans, you know, the so called euro defense secretary donald rumsfeld, talk about the france, germany, the italy. they want this plan and they say this is just not, it's just destroying the continent of europe and the europe will not recover from

this. but they don't have any way. because ultimately, ukraine, as long as is being fed, you know, infinite amount number of arms from the united states. it can just keep going. and i love that it's like giving an alcoholic for free reign of the booze in the bar is getting like, or a gambler, you know, you have a limited credit and the by the administration is doing, you know, whatever you want to give it, you know, one day they say, you know, going to send you this multiple large rocket systems, then they change their mind if they will, they will make sure that the missiles are short range, you know, they're going to change their mind on that as well. so so level 2 can just simply continue, no matter how often the peripheral consequences are, i suppose until they run out of ukrainians. there was one point where it in exactly a stone and burg statement to the craniums was quite interesting to me because the nato in its leadership are just overwhelmed. they finally found

a reason to exist and they wanted to go on on. this is a bureaucracy that has been searching for a mission, and now they found upon it and they actually force the issue by ignoring russia. russia on diplomatic notes of december 17th, remember one to washington, 12, brussels. they ignored it. they wanted this to happen. and they've gotten what they wanted, but you know, the, at the end of the day when george was saying here, i mean, this is just, mission creep is not they want to keep going as long as possible without really, really any kind of coherent thought about a goal of this war, go ahead. example. if you remember before the ukraine crisis, which started in 2014, the propose of nato was a quite a strength, for instance, in 2013. the said that the men aims to protect again, pirates in the african coast and against the trafficking of human beings. so

it's good, but though you don't need a having a military allianz like not to fight against that. so of course, the you, current crisis was a very, very great opportunity for nato to justify just to, to be, to be in place. and the problem know is that if they're lows in ukraine and they're losing and you can actually today. so is a loser. what's the purpose of nettle? because, or if you're quite cynical, for instance, what will happen is russia decided to invade, for instance, the baltic countries to protect the russian speaking population will not all wheel and get more money than they did with ukraine. i don't think so. i mean, rush i want to, it's ok, but just just to represent that they can do, they can't do model that they are doing no and i was just isn't letting me put in a set of regarding the i am us a weapon system that actually ukraine has already such

a system and the name is it's a 990 kilometers a range and it's exactly the same. and i'm just but you have, i don't know, maybe 16 a rockets, but 6 on her. i am us. so it's every single question of sending messages, sending premises to try to keep, keep fighting, and russia, even if everybody knows, know that the russia ones use the soap aeration ones use were which started 8 years ago. interesting, george, you know, you hear this phrase. nothing about ukraine without ukraine, but i mean, that's a very curious situation here. and i said in my introduction, is that, you know, in many different forms. ukraine has been a client state of the, of the west of the european union and of the united states. so give me everything you want, let them know, you know, whatever you want to give it to him. well then, you know, it goes from

a client state to kind of a very fuzzy wag the dog because the, the, by the administration bo joe. and they're all in on this here. i mean, this is a very dangerous situation because you're giving worth already to the, the most junior of junior partners in this equation. go ahead. but i don't think they are giving it a did. i think the lady of pretense of getting it all florida, but basically they just want to keep the war going because you know, i'm just simply gives you something for not. so any time the united states kohler said, well, you know, this is going with strings, the trash, uh, we want to just sit down and go, she seriously. well, basically want to give you anything that you know, you're done with americans and on this many times in the past, i mean, they did this to the south vietnamese. i did this to afghanistan. oh that one point . that's it. we got, you are, i haven't done that, does it? what's going on?

and in fact, it's done the this way because it seemed like some, some kind of an agreement was in the works and is time bo bone, the united states and united, gave them just moved. and i, you know, bring this thing to an end. and since then, since the is a symbol debacle, let me know, negotiations and you know biting again said recently that well and so you know, the reason why we're getting on so your brain is to strengthen your grains, negotiating position while negotiate it while negotiate the 2nd place i was laughing any, any back in the moment, the grady negotiate position was strengthened a little more. so it's essentially just saying, you know what, what are some calling for a cease fire and, you know, and we know what that means, so they can regroup,

and they can send in more arms and all that. it has nothing to do with them to go shaded and hear me. i'm more kind of a, a soft goal level here. must not be allowed to win. well, i mean that's rhetorical. you know that i guess it sounds like maybe for some people it's a listing. but that has nothing to do with geo politics if they rationality their, their, their ability to reason his escape the minutes being overcome by an ideological position that has nothing to do with reality. we would all agree. our viewers agree, the war is going very badly for ukraine. and so this is where the conflicts come. he must not be allowed to win. but there's no way that ukraine can win unless they want to start world war 3 and then everybody loses, go ahead. you know, i imagine i don't want to come for, of course the west was hitler, but i imagine this in the beginning of april, 2945. so we can over the west and the allies to win

the war. so it's not a question what you want to a lot, so what you can do, and if you observe what happened on the shield during the last week, there is a such a many, a disparate cnn assault. i mean a, you know, a zalinski and the, and the west need just a small victory just taking a small village just to say that, ok, we are counter attacking. we are going to win. but the even which older, although the force is a sense that they couldn't achieve such a victory, it's a complete collapse everywhere on the front line. but of course, as you say, there are still on the irrational approach of this conflict. and the will continue sending many for us is losing the last a huge, it's very it's, it's very dangerous for the, for the recurrent frontline. but that this very want to win just just one village,

just so i can say on the french channels on the us channels on the all, there were some channels that work into attacking. we're going to win just for just for what i can't explain because again, we are on a national approach of these conflicts. that is not right because they're saying that regime that has been posed on russia is boomerang backfired. and it's the last that it is experiencing all of the, the, the pain of the sanction. so they have to have something to just by what they have done. yes. that, that, that's right. and unfortunately on the west is basically ruled by the united states earlier because the house from boom, we would expect something sensible. and i think that they probably do have some sensible cause. i'm sure micro shows draggy. this is insane. we just

don't like this. this is just destroying our economy. they don't really have any anything because they've allowed themselves to be essentially starting to lose more text of nato. and i brought in these new nato members who are absolutely demented. i'm in the bowl in the baltic space. you know, the very, you know, the, your check republican about garrett. they are actually, you know, running things as opposed to the, you know, the most sensible powers and therefore, is something, you know, my problem. they give you say things a sense of what he said. it the other day, but he just simply is overwhelmed by the people who are really running the show. and obviously it makes them wait because their words have no impact whatsoever. so you talked to poking, you don't talk to the result of this. and i gentlemen, that your company here, we're going to go to a short break, and after that you will continue our discussion and stay with our ah, ah,

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a little. this is the home addition to remind you. we're discussing some real news . ah, i select exactly a hearing this guy said, hey, you know, there's all this talk about negotiation today. they go, she a, you know what? well, what should they accept the ukrainians? i mean, what's the best venue, the timing, rice correlation of forces as the soviets used to say. and i find that to be just all of it to be nonsensical because the, the fact that the west would not interact in good faith with russia. but prior to this conflict, and i'm looking at the again, december 17th, all the way to february 24th, they weren't good. faith actors did not take rushes concerns seriously. and the russians warned military technical response. we got it. ok, so i mean, why would russia even care what ukraine has to say?

what it's, it's backers in the west have to say, you know, particularly like poland, balding republics, a rabid me. it's the way i look at it is that, and we've talked about this so many times the slow grind, you know, well that's how russians fight wars. ok. they do it methodically. and so my, my thoughts are the russians will say when the war is over, when they are ready, it will be their time table and they will dictate the results. there will not be maybe a minute chat a little bit here. and there might be some discussion, but basically as i thought, this is the outcome of the war. and you must live with it because there's nothing you can do about it unless you want to go to the new killer. you want, you want the, you want to test the master shared destruction thesis, but basically it's because the russia saves the west as not having any good faith actors. they're going to have to make unilateral decisions and they have, they are in the position to do that. if you remember on the 21st of february, 2014,

the french, the polish, and the german, us a minister to sign an agreement to go out to crisis. this agreement last less than 24 hours in 2015 the sign, the agreement. there was a vote on the un and so heiress, every people who voted, including the u. s. a. are supposed to guarantees this agreement, they didn't do anything. so of course, russia doesn't trust the west, and a rush has rights. and, you know, the problem is russia as already changed one time, is a war ems is a war targets. it was on the $22.00 of f will, before the target was a dumbass and cremate to be recognized by jeff as independent or other part of russia. and on the 22, on the 22nd of april,

that they said i to change the target and those targets to control all the south coast of ukraine. so wednesday, we'll have a liquidated, do you current army in? don't boss, i mean, the men of their crime isn't done, boss, actually. they are, will be able to change against the targets. why not both over? why not check and see the can they come to? i to his origin that can take what they wants. so father forgive and for the west, it's her an emergency to, to try to honestly negotiate with russia and to stop fighting, not to cease fire to stuff fighting to the lens. he has to get the order to look or an army ok. we are, we lost a war and it's time to, to negotiate on a good face. and without that, a rush, i will window that the war ended and on bus. and maybe after that it will change again. the ams and the next aims could be worse and worse for ukraine. of course,

you know, church as a link is not often said that he wants to negotiate out $1.00 to $1.00 with. but i will, i will. well imagine that from the russian side, the only phone call they want to get from zalinski is an unconditional surrender. your thoughts? yeah, i think that's right. i think a very good point because the long of this war goes on, the higher the price that russia will exact from ukraine and the west. i mean it just. ready makes sense, i mean, you now sacrifice a great deal. you want to reward for less sacrifice, so raw, i get off the world war to a heavy beating a terrible devastation. now, you know, because the cache, you know, lots of things for our security. and i think that this is a historic opportunity for russia to address various security vulnerabilities that

a lot of the breakup of the soviet units. ok, you know, i think the, the back seat goes to go to control of the city of seacoast. they're going to control, i think they're going to get the land bridge to trans this syria. so, you know, maybe even more, i mean, you know, that's, that's it. i mean, is this, you know, the, let this historic opportunity just to pass them by. it's such a good point to things here. it's not to get russian public opinion, will not allow anything less than an absolute victory. public opinion is important here and different, but you can expand upon this point. this is all about russia security. this is not about rebuilding the soviet union. it's not just oracle a fight with you. read all the nonsense you hear? george is absolutely right. we stuff this all started by russia demanding it security guarantees in europe and. and because it doesn't have honest interlocutors

in the west, it will create those conditions all by itself. that yes, of course and know that we can add, that putin belongs to the so i'm sorry, in, in community in the eighty's were thought that the kitchen was too big and it was too expensive for the trip public of russia. so it's look the question of rebuilding a huge empire, which is a impossible to rule and possible to, to, to, to make wealthy because because to big. so for russia, the only thing to do is get a safety get security and protect russian people. because in the ukraine, you have russian people and your russian speaking people. so this people are closer to russia than to the west than even to move on to a day. so of course, there is no question to with the question of protecting people to protect the

russian people and especially in the bus. and when you see precisely, that's all this a phonetic battalions. they hate people living in them, but they use it as a you use them as a human shield because the heads and it's not a problem to exterminate them. so yes, i agree. it's not a question for building a selection of security and of protecting people in the bus and in the russian speaking, part of your brain is backed up with exactly a sense that it makes what he said. it makes perfect sense because i want to explain why russia didn't change, why there hasn't been a regime chain. all the other things. when the u. s. dash around the world all the time. ok. but the russian, any of those things, i mean, how would you found it really curious that like nancy pelosi and chuck schumer can show up and walk around the center of given the middle of the war. they don't seem to be, feel any a security threat. and that he's absolutely right. it's about security interest in

protecting people. and it's nothing to do with boys running, you know, showing up on the emmys or the grammys, you know, sitting in the presidential palace in campus in different it's immaterial. yes. i think that's right. it is about the russian people specifically and again, if one of them voted to inform speeches on february the 21st of february, the 20. well, the february, the 21st stage was all about how the bolsheviks really just screwed over the russian people. right from the, from the 917 all the way up to 991 just for the low. and that's obviously something you feel very strongly about. and he thinks of the west is actually continuing the work of the of so they are going to protect the russian b. right. and i think at some point, i mean it goes back to the beginning, the issue of the both states is going to come up because a,

a berry i'm going to put up for will away lisa, very substantial russian population of be treated. 1 in particularly in last, the sonia again brings up, you know, the security issue, which is the basically, i asked the gillian brother on the list. a friend in the past. couple rushes access the believe. so there are other issues that, you know, he's going to start raising about, you know, it's need to feel the russian people. i think george, you're absolutely right because maybe we don't have a whole lot of time left on this program. but do you think you're additional sanctions that happened? why here? i mean exactly. the sanction po box is empty now. ok, i mean other sanctioning relatives have relatives of relatives. ok. it's, you know, it's really, it's a fanatical and now there's nothing more they can again,

unless we want to go to a general mobilization than a general global war, which would be a craven choice on the side, on the part of the west. and to add to it here, what do you do exactly when it all does come crashing down on that? ok, because it's going to happen. it's going to happen sometime this summer. ok. what are they going to do then? the next step, if you look at the 2nd war, is a global society. i don't, i don't see. and it was a and use a idea. but to be a, i don't know if it's to be more sales, but the deputy foreign minister of the european union with a polish one said does are preparing the sentence the packet of sanctions. but i would like to know what the, what is talking about. because they, the guess actually have to suggest, but this is a change in supposed to include,

you know, or, i mean, what's the point of sanctions if you're not influencing behavior? i mean, how long that if you have, you know, in back that so on anything russia is doing a dia with play for restrictions on the use of energy this winter as well, the food rationing on the table. so there's a point to other than what we're going to do something. so let's say he has another round of sanctions. i suppose a country friends can borrow some money from ukraine because they're swimming in it right now here. exactly. i'm going to let you finish off the program here. where does this all end? because a lot of people have invested a lot in this and gotten 0 return. 15 seconds, go ahead. there were no return and you know, the problem was

a land lease. it's up to, i don't know all the ukraine we get, we give back the money. we give the money back. i don't know, they can do that because russia is taking all what interesting part of your credit? no it. what specifically is we on the product? what part of ukraine is going to pay this back? who's going to be what's going to be the successor? state the car off. you know, it will be determined in moscow not in washington, but it's all the time we have want to think, my guess, here in moscow and in budapest where i think our viewers for watching as you can see next time, remember, oh, in ah, during the 2nd well, water in nazi occupied poland valinda was

a farming region today. it's part of ukraine. between 19431945 members of the ukranian insurgent army led by step on bendara. nasa could thousands of poles and valeria in a diabolical ethnic cleansing process. the murders were particularly horrific and brutal villages were burned and property looted of aline, a massacre is without doubt, one of the bloodiest episodes in polish ukrainian history. my al ukrainian politicians, still reluctant to talk about these events, how to modern day ukraine and poland view. this tragedy of the past, and why does the memory of belinda us do divide? people look forward to talking to you all that technology should work for people. a robot must obey the orders given by human beings, accept where such orders at conflict with the 1st law show your identification. we should be very careful about on personal intelligence. at the point obviously is to

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i think will they spots around next? for almost supply c crate has only one goal that is going to drag out the military conflict as long as possible. and so i think you think the thought of the complete, but the main putin quit the size of the huge amounts of weapons being sent to ukraine. thing russian forces are cracking them like nuts. this comes as mo, voices from the us call on here to make concessions to moscow. as a retired us general says ukraine lacks the military capability to defeat russia. there is no way that the great ends will ever have enough combat our to keep the russians out of ukraine as well. and so what does that look like in the in game is in 10 fighting continues.