ah ah, 3 civilians are killed in the done yet. people's republic of the area continues to come under intense artillery fire that dozens of missiles were reportedly launched by ukrainian forces. also ahead, with more long reaching the weapon systems you'll be shipping to ukraine. defer that we will push the line which follows the neo ne, from threatening our country, rushes foreign minister, a warrant, the west against it's continuous flow of weapons to ukraine. the conflict grinds on a number of western media and politicians alike move away from the previous key. it will wind styles to questioning whether there will be

a victory for ukraine at all with broadcasting from moscow. this is our t. my name's unit illegal. in 30 minutes. of news and views start out, free people are reported kill to on their own. 10 more civilians under after heavy shelling and that done yet, people's republic continued for a 3rd day on monday. local officials, same be attacks were carried out by ukrainian forces. ah. so 5 more civilians lost their lives and more than 20 were winded by artillery fire . over the weekend, danielle authorities claimed around 70 missiles were fired up the region from grad rocket launchers, which can shoot several missiles simultaneously. kia hasn't yet commented on the

attack for schools. a kindergarten and residential building suffered heavy damage. ortiz, romano culture reports from the city. the ground here in the nest was shaking once again as f 5 city. this freaks came on zer, heavy artillery fire from a ukraine, at least a 70 around storm multiple rocket launchers were used against civilians and civilian infrastructure. at least 3 people have been killed and then wounds it. now several apartment buildings caught on fire. cars were damaged by shrapnel as well. now we are hearing reports about storage facilities with construction materials, also catching on fire. now, water supply facility was also damaged here and done as come yet to hear about any damage to military infrastructure as that ukraine continues to target peaceful civilians. and that their infrastructure as well. now, this have been happening,

it has been intensifying over the past 3 months. and i hear in dennis kaz civilian casualties continued to manage, not only here but in the rest of the dentist people's republic as well. but meanwhile, the russian defense ministry has confirmed russian troops of successfully pushed back to ukrainian military units in a village in the north of the done yet sc republic. thereby preventing their advance in the area but not as commerce is to fathers in any, under the onslaught of the russian troops, the remnants of the crane and on the forces brigades were cut off from the main forces and supplies due to the destruction of the bridge by the great nationalists units abandoned their weapons and equipment and dispersed along the coast up to 80 soldiers swam across the river. the russian troops deliberately restrained from opening fire on them. we view the refusal of the ukraine and military to defend the nationalist lead key for jim as the only right decision not cover this work. russia

is foreign minister has worn the west against it's continuous flow of weapons to key. if jim de la boyd knew the more long reaching the weapon systems, you'll be shipping to ukraine, the fur that we will push the line. which bars the neo nazis from threatening our country. you will sir gale of ralph, also. sab, it's impossible to take seriously the promises of ukrainian presidency. lensky not to strike at russian territory with the new weapons. mister love, roth claim kia vase quote. simply laughing when washington said it believed the promised not to shoot of russia. also during the press conference, the minister insisted that in order to resume grain exports from the black sea, the ports their 1st half to be de mind by ukraine, while the country's top diplomat pointed as well to the long ties established between russia and europe friendly relations that to day are seemingly forgotten,

unusual butchery, bushes still the western countries are facing more and more problems inside their countries. and not only because their social and economic policies lead them to a dead end. but also because more and more sane europeans is starting to ask, why make an enemy out of russia? more and more people are remembering the way we together with many european states, wrote a great and glorious history. ukrainian president love mercy lensky today. stress key as being pushed towards on favorable agreements with russia that comes of some western media outlets on politicians seem to be edging away from their previous victory for key about all costs. stones questions have been raised that run against the normative, ranging from whether ukraine should consider territorial concessions to reach peace . to pondering if the country can win at all. if tiers and moscow are headed for a multi year or even multi decade, frozen conflict, we will need to push ukraine towards its most realistic rather than its most

ambitious military strategy. morale among the ukrainian troops is reportedly suffering brushing command as a concentrating massive firepower on ukrainian positions. what has happened of the past several months is western politicians, western media, the mainstream media, which have complete dominance again many over the information's fear in the west. they, they built this, this bubble of unreality, an alternate reality in which they misled millions of people into, believe it into believing what was happening in ukraine. and what is happening now is this is this bubble. it is, it is beginning to pop because what, what are they hopeful? western politicians and pundits. they had hoped, the, the russian military offensive would collapse, and that ukraine would go on the offensive when back it's, it's territories, as they claim they did everything, everything that they could to achieve these goals. and none of them, none of them are achieved. ergo, you have by now saying things like this,

it steer territory. i'm not going to tell them what they should and shouldn't do. but it appears to me that at some point along the line, there's going to have to be in negotiated settlement here. and what that entails, i don't know, they had hoped to isolate russia, they boasted for months that russia was completely isolated, the, it was an outcast. and what do you have? you have the hill, for example, a very pro ukrainian outlet. now, now writing admitting that no russia isn't isolated, that out of the $195.00 countries in the world, only $65.00 have joined in to some degree not entirely on western sanctions against russia, china, india, brazil, mexico, and indonesia. many, many was continue to do business with russia, continue buying more and more of russian exports. at the same time, you have consumers in the west looking at looking at petrol station prices,

looking at all the empty shovel supermarkets and the price is then going, how would we shot ourselves with the side? you also have, for example, the new york times, which says, we can keep rising blank checks, the grade, there's been no result. what has been the result. the ukrainian military is on the defensive and it is being routed more and more units of surrendering. you have the times saying that ukrainian morale is dropping at catastrophic levels. you have no illusions, western military offices, nato military offices, general staffs, they will understand very well. the situation in ukraine, russia has a heck of a lot of comment are de ukrainians. and so there is no way that the ukrainians will ever destroy or defeat the russians. there is no way that the ukrainians will ever have enough combat. are they cheap the russians out of ukraine as well? and so what does that look like in the, in game, the more this war goes on,

we never know if that's going away. and then they will lack the ability to go to the bargaining table and a position of strength and may lose more than they intended. interesting commentary, isn't it. and with those headlines with those stories emerging morale as well. you've got and at the same time the u. s other western countries continuing their arm supplies to kia. what's going on there? why did the virgins, of course, that they're there. they're continuing those because they fed the, the sly, the people that if we are you grand, it's going to, when they can suddenly over, not stop with all these supplies and shipments and say, look, that they are changing anything. they're just, they're just dragging these conflicts out. nevertheless, that look, many people have this illusion that all these weapons to the said to ukraine. they end up with the front lines and they're used against russia. most i would say most

never reach the front lines every day. they are targeted that the sure this is something that the media and the western military outlets of concealed from the public. and out of those, the reach the front lines, pledge via also captured by, by russian forces and slowly, slowly, ever so soon, the media is starting to admit that you know, everything is in fine and dandy as they had led people to believe. despite pledges of tanks, artillery and u. s. rocket systems, the ukranian front lines continue to be populated by at times dangerously ill equipped fighters. they are lacking bullets and extra magazines for the rifles. one canadian fighter said, the reality on the ground is, is very different and slowly, as you can see, that that bubble that they had built up was beginning to bust. and ukraine is just one hot spots in an extremely volatile global situation at the moment with tensions and other conflicts,

leaving many to ask are we living through a period of change that will be sustained to delve further into that? i'm delighted to welcome live on to the program mohammed arthur, java director general of the pakistan house international think tank to discuss that at current geopolitical situation. you're most welcome to the program, sir. thank you very much. at recent events are, are changing global politics, that much is clear, but do you think just to start with the big one 1st? are we living under a new world order? yeah, i would say actually there was a world order or different world order. i'd be new world order can be categorized in terms of how the west is looking at the other half of the word. and that means that on the one hand, there is a supreme dichotomy in deer articulation of the wall daughter. at the, on the other hand, there is a glaring, as we say, contacts is appearing,

that there is a changing resetting of what was before. the, you know, special operations of russia, special operations in ukraine. the 2nd point, which i would say, which makes sense to all of us that the euro centric and the us centric and the west centric policies. more or less had been and created lot of trouble has been creating a lot of trouble for the developing countries. for only one mattered. i think the sanction the gym has paralyzed many economies. i have to say that from the world bank i m f, all of that institution. the 2nd point in relation to what we think that the new world order is, is, is on its way already than the making is the cloud. which other than breast has it, which breast has never accepted an undermining 2 different propaganda warfare.

this also makes sense to all of us that on the ground, the realities are being translated into manufacturing of content with public is a, it was not aware of. and that is also part of that, as they said the previous well daughter, the new world order, i would say also can be categorized in terms of how he, one country or set of country stand up to one narrative. the construct had only the rest and way to deal with any issue is correct one. and if the west make some rules, every one has to follow. the issue here is there is, i mean, entire issue. for example, se, asia middle east, a large majority of countries,

if you look at them, it will find out that it is only a matter of opportunity when you ask them about the issue. they will speak up. but frankly, i'm looking at to reset the button that the button is reset in the post special operation, ukraine and the war. the wall, especially the west and the united states, actually has shown his deaton by what was an assumption on the part of many this international analyst myself, was back in years, i was thinking that the expansion of nato was towards ease, would bring some sort of culmination to a confrontation, i didn't know at the time i'm talking about back in 25 years ago. for example, i wrote a piece on that based on what was, what was the, the state craft of the security and foreign policy at that time and how sustainably happen. even last year, i actually were basically in, in,

in forum in moscow and such a, basically i raised this point exactly that what was the, can be the intention because it is a preemption which prevents risks and mitigates risk. and i think in this case the one sided do feed news feed, which goes to the war, must be countered on the ground realities. but that comes as well from leaders in the west, doesn't it? when they talk about the world, they're talking about europe, the u. s other western countries. increasingly, i think since the beginning of the ukraine conflict, we're seeing that being redressed somewhat because you've got china, india, pakistan saying, well hold on you're, you're not, you're not talking for us as well. we want to make our own decisions there. and i think it has that be more to the forefront of western leaders mine since the start of the korean conflict. i think it came later to be honest because they were under

the perception or view that when they will say that this is the reward will make the decision to of the western world in meaning. this didn't happen because the countries made their own minds up. they looked at their own national interest and the respectively made the decisions when the during the voting boss wanting yes, focus on also in among those good dislike other that peaceful resolution of the conflict is important. but the resolution of any conflict has to be from the position negotiation should be made on the position from the strength, not from the weakness. i think also that is a political fantasy on the part of the western powers, which now makes sense, which i thought always that is maybe a not a table rhetoric that they consider that they can get away with whatever they want to do with any developing country what example,

all those walls previous wars are imposed on other countries, had shown a very bad result, unpopular to see and me, king, even at the home. i mean, the popular opinion in the united states have been to withdraw force prov, connie's son from iraq, from libya, from syria, all that demons states that even if ne, 2, and all other countries to plan something. for example, i'm asking the same hypothetically. it will be publicly in their own capital will not be liked because that narrative read the statements given is like more. as they said, one sided. you have to understand, we all have to understand every conflict, always and on a negotiation table. all was an in drafting some kind of agreement convergence. i think in this case it appears to me that it may take some time. but

i, on the other hand, bucks on india, russia, and other, southeastern southeast, east asian countries. i think they do understand that they should speak for their national interest and they should stand up if they have to. and if they don't, then they can also be, you know, lumped into the same narrative. and does that mean? and another big issue here that the ear of western dominance, is it coming to a head or has it actually passed already? because there's not going to be a stick in the grown saying we've moved on. it's going to be very hard to know when that happens, but is it in the process of occurring western dominance coming to, to a close? well, to me, if you ask, ask, i think is the process process has started. i mean, they will never accept this a political defeat, that they accepted. ok. we failed in all these countries. we could not maintain peace, we loss trillions of dollars. and we had to leave in some kind of, you know,

a submission to the countries. and then in afghanistan included, so that means the 3 actually the processing he already might have started. but what is the require on the part of russia and china and other countries without being like blocked that we are block. we dont have to say that because block is very limited. it's better you say that the majority of the opinion is anti imposing course of diplomacy. and course of diplomacy would never get any result. and we have seen this time after time again, sanctioned regimes always fight back. and during sanction, most of the country is progress much more strongly. i give you box and example that bucks on face. so many kind of thing as some inked an amendment and this and that

bressler all the way to many, many years from the united states and pakistan rather came out very strong economically technologically. and most important b as an integrity and respect and honor of the country leadership and dear values. because this is popular if your leader is strong. and he, she can pronounce said, says vocabulary is good, strong digging to see, you know, the national interest, her, the right time. that makes actually quite a country very honorable. can you give us a sense of how the east now sees the west has that changed since the conflict again? we're east has a one comparison there. make for example, i can give you an assessment. does say that all right, all this human rights, all this destruction, this show and propagate whatever happened the ukraine. but what did on the member

that any one of them can come out. they came out after very many, hundreds of thousands of people killed millions refugees in iraq, for example. or we were wrong at the time. and then they went to syria, they had a problem, then they went to libya. so they are looking at somebody that the rest should have stood there when they have initiated all the unit was, but did refuse to accept the responsibility. so. so then how does, how do people in those countries feel when joe biden, for instance, goes to islamabad or new delhi and says, e must stand with this on the issue of, of, of sanctions against russia. it's for your own good interest. you must follow the wesley guy. i do not know about india, to be honest, i can tell from bucks on his side as a, as it head off a think tank. absolutely not. it will never happen. president biden can come to islamabad and he can ask that we stand in favor of yours. no, yes,

united nations rules are different because as a member of the united nation box on always follow united nation resolution. but united states and rest of these sanctioned the uni latrell without taking into consideration international law. but as you will know, there's a lot of pressure against countries such as pakistan to follow the u. s. will will the withstand that, nor had they haven't stood until now. i think they will not stand then. yes, we do sphere. we're and support a peaceful, negotiated settlement of the conflict. death said beyond, if a country wants us to do dictate us that you should know because the u. s. and other countries dictate on interests more seriously than a popular opinion. so in that way, i do not think that it will happen, it have that has not happened and it will not happen it at all and hasn't been in

bold in since to start at the conflict that, that countries in your there does it where you had a bottle and right up we had a lot of pressure and pakistani government previous and this one took it very formidably and or, and we, as they said, we had a great relation to the ukraine as well. there was no issue between box on ukraine and we keep that we are, but it is impossible that the united states and other countries desires to abandon or see because she has this sort of box on those shad relationship in the past 20 years. going to we are very positive trajectory, and we are of the opinion that this conflict will be dissolved sooner or later. but at the same time, the south asian countries and other countries has a great example to know that when the rest decides to something in dear interest, they will come together. but when the global challenges the lot, they think that the european problem is everybody's problem is not the way. now

when it comes to economic issues and grain. energy, for instance, have asian countries being feeling more. do you think of the economic brunt of the conflict with southern mind? how do you think that kind of pin will play i through the dynamics of, of that region? look, we, we've been also, you know, having a, we tend grain from ukraine and other countries and it's the fact that it was supplying, and we'd like we bucks on felt pressure like other countries. but we have also alternatives for example. and we are looking for alternate this on the part of energy, i think ratio can be a great box for bucks on in the rush and all the bucks on walk stream. this project is underway and there are several agreements subbing fine. some legal issues are being dissolved and i think it may, you will see in maybe near future that there will be a development in box on really needs energy and green. and we all that and it is

important for us just because we have this sometime in regular once a month. so, and that's one of the reason that we, we lose disc, otherwise, bucks on has been a great agriculture country. only recently we had this issue. i'm sure we will resolve that one as well. but for right now, i think if you ask me that yes, the south asian countries had a pressure, india included. and i know india resolve the issue by buying the oil according to reports. yeah. so and by and add add much, much different rates and calling to the market. and that of course helps them economically and also helps alicia and others to a, to take this opportunity out of this crisis. because this crisis is also give you a paternity. so we have to really maintain this balance that we're, as all was ended agreements, bees, bees. and this too shall pass and i think it is

a very important we all have to understand that the yes, these developing countries have the pressure populous pressure as well due to economic issues. and they'd good in all countries, not boxed on on b, but, but something that something they say that is not heard as much in the west from governments, is that it's not just what's occurring in ukraine. and russia is the problem, as you say, there are dry tissues. we've just come through a pandemic in the west. it seems to be the entire faults of, of latimer putin. there seems to be more of a reasonable response to what's happening right now in the east and possibly the west could. could maybe take tips on? no, i would say yes because addict, they should take the tips and we read today. we talked about this that only on the account of a president, putin's statement about that the prism of expression doesn't give you the right to insult the profit or and you,

religious figure has and him so much popularity that you know, i started last months are here you know, on a forum that actually you combine 57 countries may be the leaders, president putin had, has been very, very popular in the public and this without any effort from anyone. it's just a principle stance which she took in dissolved to make things right. that to keep people in an alignment of their ideological battles, that you cannot really use your freedom of expression. so this statement alone small statement has an am lot of respect. that means that there is something wrong in understanding of the conflict. and also why would rest at this time? and nato, for example, would expand because they understand that china and russia had become very close. now, allies in the i still, of course, on

a different trajectory because they are weighing dear options. ok in cruising with the united states or distributive partnership. what can i talk about? pakistan and new united states, a part of you will just try to get through some subjects. we've got a little bit of time left. but former pakistan prime minister him around, can accused us of hatching a conspiracy to take him i to of his position washington at sent a threat through an envoy. it's alleged i had that if you can, remains in power. they will not forgive pakistan. how likely are those claims on where do pakistan u. s. relations go from here. all right, i think let, let me clearly clarify this one. first of all, i think it so it was very much politicized. yes, there war or whoa. words used by an under secretary from a diplomatic point of view which language was not acceptable. and it was considered as buck a saw,

the national security council meeting. twice with every chief of the, you know, the intelligence chiefs and all those lesson. they concluded after the investigation that it was as regular interventions, like using this kind of language, but, and they were issued demarche to them wanting as well. but that's it. you know, income is relations, it happens. but to going to that extent, i think it, it was not correct in correct, because the, the most important institution pakistan have investigated this themselves. which i'm not really, a purely said that all i this is like, man, if this is done by no, i think it's i think it possess this is not the premises of the argument. now if i ask if he tell you this, a us box and relation in the past 2 years, of course, because bucks and facilitated in a funds, doha piece process like to sion, pakistan, china. we wanted a stable of con,

his son. so we are not being affected. so i think in that way i would say to you that box and us relation right now are the same as they were before. ok. yeah we, we just have to end it there because of time only, but thank you so much for your time and your thoughts today. i most enjoyed it. mohammed arthur job it, director general of the pakistan house international. thank. thank. thank you. you are not pictures, right? up to the break and deeper, don't go too far. more programs get their starting moments time unit o'neil saying good bye for now. ah, look forward to talking to you all. that technology should work for people. a robot must obey the orders given by human beings, except where such orders at conflict with the 1st law show your identification. we should be very careful that offers intelligence at that point. obviously.