ah, the 7 people are killed in the done yet, the people's republic as ukraine launches dozens of missiles at the area according to local authorities as russian and forces advanced towards the cliffy chance one of the ukraine last strongholds in the region looks at what the troops are facing in the battle fields, they called themselves desk italian. they were trained by western instructors who fought with them, machine guns, equipment, food, everything they hand with and pulled it from the west. and as the conflict grinds on, a number of western media and politicians move away from their previous p of will wind stance to questioning whether there will be a victory for ukraine at all. the

like casting lot of direct my studios in moscow. this is our international. i'm john thomas. certainly glad to have you. with us. 7 people have been killed and 16 injured as intense showing in the done yes, the people's republic continued on monday for a 3rd day. local authorities claim ukrainian forces fired 20 missiles at the republics capital alone. as intensive fighting continues in the east of the republic, several residential buildings have been severely damaged in the western city of rebellion. air guns authorities say that 3 people were killed and more than 30 injured and showing by ukrainian forces during the week of that as the russian and guns courses advanced towards the city of louis chance. one of the last strongholds of the ukrainian army and the republic as a clearing operation is underway in the nearby settlements. local authorities report multiple fires in its suburbs,

and the centre of lucy chanced and claimed that ukraine's death battalions are moving to the city ortiz. it was done of spoke to one of the russian fighters there about the situation on the ground. for the storm is what they called themselves the desk battalion. they had death battalions, stripes, and they held on to the last fail from the criminals, and those who run away from the battlefield. they were well trained and equipped and fight with guerrilla tactics. we captured a major. he said that they were trained by western instructors who fought with them . machine guns, equipment, food, everything they had was imported from the west. they were trained hard for 2 or 3 months. the major was high on belgium made pills. it took him 3 days to recover from them on these pills. all a person doesn't fight, as he does not want to eat or sleep. the major said that one of the fighters on the pills have been shot 3 times, but he still continued the fight. ukrainian president vladimir lensky,

have claimed that keel is being pushed towards unfavourable agreements with russia . stressing that the world is tired of the conflict. this comes as some western media outlets and politicians seem to be edging away from their previous victory for key of at all cost stance. questions have been raised that run against the narrative, ranging from whether ukraine should consider territorial concessions to reach peace . to pondering if the country can win at all. if cheers and moscow are headed for a multi year or even multi decade, frozen conflict, we will need to push ukraine towards its most realistic rather than its most ambitious military strategy. morale among the ukranian troops is reportedly suffering brushing command as a concentrating massive firepower on ukrainian positions. what has happened of the past several months is western politicians, western media, the mainstream media, which have complete dominance again many over the information's fear in the west.

they, they built this, this bubble of unreality, an alternate reality in which they misled millions of people into, believe it into believing what was happening in ukraine. and what is happening now is this is this bubble. it is, it is beginning to pop because what, what are they hopeful? western politicians and pundits, they had hoped to the, the russian military offensive would collapse and that ukraine would go on the offensive when back it's, it's territories, as they claim they did everything. everything that they could to achieve these goals, and none of them, none of them are achieved. ergo, you have by now saying things like this. it's their territory. i'm not going to tell them what they should and shouldn't do. but it appears to me that at some point along the line, there's going to have to be in negotiated settlement here. and what that entails, i don't know. they had hoped to isolate russia, they boasted for months that russia was completely isolated. the,

it was an outcast. and what do you have? you have the hill, for example, a very pro ukrainian outlet. now, now writing admitting that no russia isn't isolated, that out of the $195.00 countries in the world. only 65 have joined in to some degree not entirely on western sanctions against russia, china, india, brazil, mexico, and indonesia. many, many was continue to do business with russia. continue buying more and more of russian exports. at the same time, you have consumers in the west looking at looking at petrol station prices, looking at all the empty shelves and supermarkets and the price is then going. how would we shot ourselves with these savages? you also have, for example, the new york times, which as we can keep rising blank checks the credit, there's been no result. what has been the result, the ukrainian military is on the defensive and it is being routed more and more units of surrendering. you have the times saying that ukrainian morale is dropping

at catastrophic levels. you have no illusions. western military offices may do military offices, general staffs. they will understand that very well. the situation in ukraine, russia has a heck of a lot of comment are de la ukrainians. and so there is no way that the ukrainians will ever destroy or defeat the russians. there is no way that the crane ends will ever have enough combat. are they cheap, the russians out of ukraine as well? and so what does that look like in the, in game, the more this war goes on, we never know if that's going away. and then they will lack the ability to go to the bargaining table at a position of strength and may lose more than they intended. interesting common transit. and with those headlines with those stories emerging morale as well.

you've got and at the same time the u. s. other western countries continuing their arm supplies to kia. what's going on there? why did the virgins, of course, that they're there. they're continuing those because they fed the, the sly, the people that if we are new cran, it's going to when they can suddenly over not stop with all these supplies and shipments and say, look, that they are changing anything. they're just, they're just dragging these conflicts out. nevertheless, that look, many people have this illusion that all these weapons that is said to ukraine. they end up on the front line than they used against russia. most i would say most never reach the front lines every day. they are target the dead. the sure this is something that the media and the western military outlets of concealed from the public. and out of those, the reach the front lines, pledge via also captured by, by russian forces and slowly, slowly, ever so soon,

the media is starting to admit that you know, everything is in fine and dandy as they had led people to believe. despite pledges of tanks, artillery and u. s. rocket systems, the ukranian front lines continue to be populated by at times dangerously ill equipped fighters. they are lacking bullets and extra magazines for the rifles. one canadian fighter said the reality on the ground is, is very different and slowly as you can see, that that bubble that they had built up beginning to bus cuz i was my colleague, tom brought gusio speaking with unit o'neill earlier. know to get more on this topic, we can cross live to former us lieutenant colonel. karen krakowski, thanks for being with us here are enviro and of course edward is all in vice chair of the libertarian national committee. arvin have already mentioned you. sorry. we have investigative journalist at results. guys, glad to have you with us. ah, let's start with you. edward. why are we observing more and more media in the west,

openly changing their narrative on ukrainian conflict. i mean, right now they're focusing on the advance of russian forces, but they're even saying that moscow is winning the economic war. this is a drastic change and stance from what we've been hearing up until now, basically. or they're taking leave from the by ministration. see, our president joe biden wrote an offer, which was an operative defeat. now the media outlets in america, the not craters, and i have been original. they been taking leaves from the cia and the pentagon. it sorts here. i think i've been telling them just make it up as you go, try to save ukrainians or violently defending territory development. we winnie the conflict, even though every objective source that we can see on the ground of footage coming out from telegram, but also simply the battle report says be to report to people having to be buried. i mean, the ukrainian army is in tatters in the past. now the outlets have been trying to cover this up because it wasn't favorable for the cia to now have another loss on the sheets for multi decade loss of these interventions we haven't received. but

the real answer to us is that they are reporting what's the truth now. they're reporting that the russians intervention major that are even trying to pay the russians. now this, this over aggressive fully. but the truth of the matter is the russians have finally broken the back of the korean army, and you can't deny that. and now armen, he brings up a good point. i mean, we've seen this similar shift in joe biden speeches. he's region recently mentioned that possibility of a negotiated settlement between russia and ukraine. why is that? i mean, before we're hearing some but again, very different things, but this is coming from joe by the president the united states. so all we're seeing over here is essentially a change from one media perspective or one media narrative, which was mostly based on, i would say wishful thinking to a gradual but painful recognition of what's actually going on over there. we don't have to equally match countries. we have a military superpower versus essentially,

an agrarian, non military superpower. and that type of war can only go one of 2 ways. one ways can go to, you know, victory for the more powerful country. and the other way can create something like what we saw in vietnam, a long bloody protracted, just quagmire that can be very unpleasant for everybody involved. either way, there's not gonna be any winners in this war. this war is going to be something that's only going to have losers, which most wars generally do. you bring up the fact of the quagmire? i think that's in some ways what the west wants to be happening here. karen, using your military observations, you have the expertise here, despite all of the military aid that has been sent to ukraine, it seems that politicians are now admitting the key of isn't capable of maintaining that fight against russia. and hence they are calling for peace. negotiations has the west miscalculated its own capabilities in being able to help kiev in this

conflict. well, certainly certainly it has, but part of that is because it has refused the west and certainly the united states, d. c. the media and in the west has refused to look at facts. fax, historically, prior to the invasion, refused to look at facts about the 2014 activities. refused to look at the facts of the u. s. relationship, their corrupt relationship with the very corrupt ukrainian government. and because we've ignored not we, but most of the western commentators have ignored the facts. now they're caught by surprise when they can no longer ignore the facts. so for a lot of us, i think the people here and your viewers are quite aware of both the history leading up to this and the past 100 days, the more accurate story of what's been happening on the ground. so we're not surprised by this, but the west, which has ignored reality,

is suddenly awakened to it. and the problem is, the west is involved. billions of dollars of, of usaid going into the country, nato aid involvement, all this stuff that's happening that has invested the west in ukraine. and yet, because they've not paid attention to reality, they have no follow plan. i the, we're using you talking about a quagmire. i've seen in western media just in the past few days. this idea of a frozen conflict am of a, of a demilitarized zone somewhere in the middle of ukraine. but the west has not developed any imaginative solutions towards peace because they have refused to recognize the fundamental reality of that would only go back to in terms of what president zalinski has recently said. he's ukraine is being pushed towards some unfavourable agreements with russia. and that the world seems to be tired of this conflict. what if, what is zalinski trying to achieve with these statements?

and are you surprised to hear this actually coming from the ukranian leader, who at the very beginning was gung ho all forward. we're going to win this thing, but i'm surprised that he didn't come through this country. because every time i look around him, see who's speaking to some other countries parliament and seeing him speaking to are only speaking in lawson berg. i think the biggest issue with autumn is 11 the other becoming this is hero and the media and as a celebrity, as this figure, standing up against a paper paper and honestly, in many regards we have many things to work with the russians on. i think the russians are far less to praise. we are a great civilization press to trade with an energy super power of one of us and selling the cider that he just holds on gets enough money from the bottom ministration and others to carry out some of the conflicts that things will be okay . i was surprised, i'm sad actually because looking across something very you're there is going to be a lasting in ethical food supply. and i read a story today, but in poland,

they're asking people to go out to florida for their own words. we finally have rain coming to supports and ukraine, but there's going to be a large amount of people that have bread. what have it is for the summer going into the full capital? many things you can absolutely. sure. just because of this. needless conflict, i think my big question is, what is waterloo zelinski going to do when ukraine negotiating a settlement to some can no longer exists. he will have a country anymore to try to and ask for money for others welfare for an endless situation. it's not gonna work out interesting and you do bring up a good point about the whole food crisis in the supply chains and what have you. it's going to be something felt calling that's for sure. now karen wednesday has also made some other rare comments. recently admitting that $2500.00 ukranian fighters did actually surrender at the as of saw plants last month in variable,

and that ukraine is losing up to about $100.00 soldiers per day. what do you think about the timing of these admissions and what could they tell us about kids current stance in the conflict? well, i think that he's beginning to be forced to reveal the facts that the facts that ukrainians themselves are already quite aware of. i have said this before elsewhere . i think zelinski is disconnected from the people of ukraine. you know, there are 6000000 ukrainian refugees outside of the country who have left already and must have been poland. some in germany. this situation is dire and it is desperate. it's been that way for some time, and zalinski who has literally millions of millions of dollars in offshore accounts outside of ukraine to flit around to the various capitals you know, and not. busy really be with ukrainian so i mean,

i think he's disconnected. i think his days are numbered politically, if not, if not literally speaking about political solution or even going to go to you on this one. the ukrainian president has also stated that the conflict quote will only definitively and through diplomacy still key of continues to beg of the west for more ons, as you heard term talking about there seems like double standards. they're coming from kids. when you look at something like this, it's rare that there is no one that's winning, right? and in this case, you have to look at who are the big winners. you know, the military a, when you send weapons, billions of dollars with a weapon to ukraine. those billions of dollars have to be of weapons has to be bought from somebody from the army dealers, from the weapons companies in the united states. and do companies that military industrial complex. those are the big winners. they've created this situation that designed to look like sort of hopeful to get the american people to agree with, you know, a completely insane plan and then to be willing to funnel all that tax money to

american special interest. again, the military industrial complex. again, the, my financial aid that gets there, i mean, it is a little bit telling me that the financial aid go there. and then a little bit later, you have all these world leader going into an area where the financial system is essentially disconnected from anything. i don't know necessarily that the money is going specifically to those leaders, but it certainly begs the question, it is impossible for me to believe that the u. s. media actually believe that ukraine has a real military chance. there's just no, no way anyone can believe that and rather just pumping people upset that more willing to, as you say, bring those that money for the benefit of both foreign and domestic special interests. karen, ivan brings up a good point about all of that. a u. s. and europe, he pledging more military age ukraine. is that likely to save you korean troops? fall in morale, i guess as the media such as the times is noting. no,

i mean it's been discussed already that the aid this access military equipment, none of it works together. some of it doesn't even work. it's not, doesn't have the right ammunition. it's dumped into ukraine. much of it is destroyed upon entry. doesn't make it to the front lines. people aren't trained on it. this is a disaster of, of a war fighting nature. it's not a, it's not, it doesn't lend any success to the war fighting effort. it doesn't expand the capabilities of the ukrainian army, per se. it is worse than just a band aid. again, it's a, it's a dump of money into some corrupt hands and certainly the u. s. military industrial complex benefits from this. so it doesn't change it. and i think the question, the gaping hole in almost everyone's analysis and discussion of this is, why isn't anyone speaking to vladimir putin?

why aren't we speaking to a leverage? why? why is you our secretary of state? and he is a key player because our country has dumped billions of dollars in the ukraine and has given them moral support. he has not spoken to leverage in over a 100 days. so that, that how can you know, we're not prepared for peace. they don't, the us has not wanted peace suddenly couple days ago. oh, they'll have to be concessions. there's going to have to be a, a postwar scenario, but no one has any idea what it is, but why don't, why don't we? and, and zalinski and hooton's talk about this, it needs to happen. um, as winter comes in, the food runs out in the 6000000, you know, refugees in neighboring countries. that number grows to 10 and 12000000. you know, a 3rd of the population of, of the former ukraine as this happens when are we going to start talking? when are we going to start talking? edward, ordinary people also seem to be fed up with the media's narrative over ukraine's

war with public interest in the topic drastically falling. why is that? hasn't the west succeeded in their attempts to win this information war? i mean, a lot of people talk about propaganda, especially when that comes to us. why isn't it working? i think you guys are actually refer to a lot of factual artillio to be able to get from cnn. are plenty of the outlets here. actually i believe it was early in the war. our own media outlets admitted that they were reporting things they knew to be false because they said it will hurt the russian war effort. ok, but i think to the point here, i think the mission was the last. no one believes what the government is saying about ukraine. that's the part i think many people like you and i are a little bit frustrated about. i just broke the see, i'm looking at gas prices. my goodness, i'm paying $6.00 a barrel. food prices are skyrocketing, 10 percent, 20 percent inflation. i've been lot of friends. my age, my thirty's. okay. people trying to to live a life in this world. we're not happy,

we're frustrated and i'm not alone. there are millions of people like me. oh, this conflict. i'm happy that i good mentors. i look at this and i'm not. i'm not dazzled by the propaganda. when i am doubtful why is that this conflict will be the moment the history looks at as the codification of a multi polar world order. but china, russia have a you mention what a recruitment searching for the reason why they're not being spoke to anybody, made their position clear. they're going to win this war, get their goals achieved, which was to secure their, their interest, the energy interest in ukraine, and to send a message once in all, to nato form during the cold war. that the lines are kick and it's no longer needed to secure eastern europe. all right, former u. s. air force lieutenant colonel. karen krakowski. we have in the middle of an vo . ha, who is the libertarian national committee chair? and also we have investigative journalist and we're all there for us on the right.

thank you very much. it's been a very interesting conversation. look forward to seeing you all again. got it. all right, now pakistan is looking for alternative ways to carry out the financial transactions with russia and western sanctions. this is according to the countries in baset or to moscow with the majority of the world refusing to join the west campaign. earlier my colleague unit o'neill discussed the situation with mohammed tar java, the director general of the pakistan house international think tank, the euro centric and the us centric. and the west centric policies. more or less has been creating lot of trouble for the developing countries. for only one matter, i think the sanction the gene has paralyzed many economies. the new world order i would say also can be categorize in terms of how one country or set of country stand up to one narrative. the construct that only the best

way to deal with any issue is correct one, a large majority of countries. if you look at them, you will find out that it is only a matter of opportunity when you ask them about the issue. they will speak up. he's got china, india, pakistan saying, well hold on you're, you're not, you're not talking for us as well. we want to make our own decisions there. and i think it has that be more to the forefront of western leaders mine since the start of the korean conflict. i think it came later to be honest because they were under the perception or view that when they will say that this is the reward will make the decision to of the western world in meaning. this didn't happen because the countries made their own minds up. they looked at their own national interest to me and the respectively made the decisions when the, during the voting boss wanting. i think also there is a political fantasy on the part of the western powers that they considered that

they can get away with whatever they want to do with any developing country. what example, all those was previous wars. ah, you know, imposed on other countries had shown a very bad result, unpopular to see and making even at their home. is it in the process of occurring western dominance coming to to a close process has started. i mean, they will never accept this a political defeat that they accept at. okay. we failed in all these countries. we could not maintain peace, we loss trillions of dollars. and we had to leave in some kind of, you know, submission to the countries and that in afghanistan included. can you give us a sense of how the east now sees the west has that changed since the conflict again? where east has a one comparison that make, for example, i can give you an assessment. these say that all right, all this human rights, all this destruction,

this show and propagate whatever happened the ukraine. but what did on remember that any one of them can come out. they came out after very many hundreds of thousands of people could millions refugees in iraq, for example. or we were wrong at the time. and then they went to syria. they had a problem, then they went to libya. so they are looking at somebody that the rest should have stood dear. when they have initiated all the unit was but did refuse to accept the responsibility. it is impossible that the united states and other countries desirous to abandon box on those shall relationship in the past 20 years, going to a very positive trajectory. and we are of the opinion that this conflict will be dissolved sooner than later. but at the same time, the south asian countries and other countries has a great example to know that when the rest decides to something in dear interest, they will come together. but when the global challenges there,

they will not. they think that the european problem is everybody's problem is not the way boys johnson is clinging on to his role as you k prime minister, after surviving in confidence vote that highlighted potentially fatal rifts in his ruling. conservative party johnson won the support of 211 of his m. p. 's, but 41 percent of his party voted to get rid of him. that's the worst such verdict for a sitting prime minister in 33 years labor party leader kier stormer, and slammed those who backed johnson stressing that he is completely unfit for office. the british public are fed up, fed up with a prime minister who promises big, but never delivers. fed up with a prime minister who's presided over a culture of lies a law breaking. the heart of government fed up with a prime minister who is utterly unfit for the great office that he holds

conservative and pays, made their choice. tonight. they have ignored the british public and much themselves and their party firmly to perish. thompson and everything that he represents. johnson's to support his claim to the result as a victory, yet many conservative impedes see it at the beginning of the end for his 3 year premiership. the pm has faced huge flack over a party gate scandal. a number of colleagues attended, numerous crowded, get togethers in downing street at 10 downing street. this is despite such gatherings being banned under the countries covered rules, high inflation and rising energy prices also raised questions about the governments effectiveness. now a recent opinion poll, published just before the start of the vote showed just 20 percent of british voters back the p. m. while 59 percent of those polled want to see johnson put out to pasture. former member of european parliament godfrey bloom says that despite

such obvious disapproval, johnson will remain in office as there is no better candidate to replace him. as most of us suspected, boris of survived the vote of no confidence. i know we're history, we've seen many a vote of no confidence in governments, but the problem is with this one, it's largely to be an engineer by his own party. and this is tough to bounce back from in the long term. and of course, everybody has their own idea of why the has been a vote of no confidence and why the prime minister's popularity has slumped. this is a fake, conservative government and people are losing confidence in it taxes as an old time high. now since the war, virtually government spending is out of control government debts out of control, the national health system of the country's virtually broken down, largely because when competence ah, and shoring up by government with money with the audit trail. so this is the

problem that the prime minister has, he's being told to hang on, or he's getting support because of his response to the ukraine. ah, and russian federation clash, which of course, he's handling with his normal ineptitude. by brokering a piece between the ukraine diplomatically and the russian federation. if he was in charge of that, if he was brokering that that would be good. but he's not a, he's just as always falling the washington line. so he's got nothing whatsoever to offer a, but he will survive or is he survived or the vote in a covered as is because there isn't any one else there all hopeless. and that has it for me, this hour i will be back in, let's say 29 minutes with another phone. fresh look, she knew this is our international but as with us.