conversation i've had in a long time, that is something that's very routine that comes out. people just want to be listened to. and we're trying to teach you how to listen to them while we hold a mirror up. so the person can see their humanity reflected back at them through our eyes. and when we treat them as human beings treat them for the suffering person that they are. and they, on the receiving end of that, they get to see that, hey there's, there is a human side. and that's the, i think, the incredible power of compassion. it was very impactful. when someone finally came along with no fear, no judgement, she heard my story did nothing to challenge it but validated. as soon as i started talking about my mother tears came off. i just spilled my guts about everything she had done to me. letting her brother rate me and my sister denying the rape half and making the school back around. how many times she she tried to kill me, broken bones, bruises the starvation, the sleep deprivation,

the humiliation making me swallow my own. my brothers and sisters watching is turning my brother against me. keep my sister away from you. like i had never had a chance to just unleash all that. and i probably went on like an hour of just the stuff she did to me. and he says, well, i want to ask another question. sorry, have you ever done this to anyone else? just in that moment it was like i'm just like my mother me what really changed me was receiving compassion from the people that i least deserve from when

i least deserved that people knew who i was. it was a small town. they knew what i was capable of and what i'd been doing for years and they didn't attack me. they didn't break the windows of my store, then argue ideologically with me. they came in and they were empathetic towards me . and they treated me with compassion, despite the horrible person that i was at the time the body might offer me a job carrying in antique furniture at cherry hall, new jersey mall for weekend 3 days, 100 bucks a day. and i told him, i said i'd take the job, he was going to tell you, before you say yes, the guy who owns this company is do. and i so i don't care and i've talked to him, do i want to work for 6 months still thing i was in the nazi chief would fit every

jewish stereotype religious right now like i don't bring them right. or you know, say i broke the marble top table and i was like, i'm so stupid. i'm so sorry. 7 bears frame me. who so i so embarrassed i did a rate for the customer, but he spot it off of very drove me home. i was waiting for him to fire me. so actually, you know, but i remember only not too much on that day. and i just kept my boots under the seat of his trunk that you couldn't really put him any further than i were. and i'm going to my knees were hurting so bad because it's trying to hold up better. so for the whole right own swastikas looks at him every day. like he has a nominator nazi and i just want him to see my boots with him. but they did for

me, they dropped me off and they were full pay anything on my pay monday and i was told and i just can wait for $10.00 things on my feet. everyone back. i'm not scared. i wanted him. i'm done with it. i'm fluid. it was 2 parts to getting out of a violent extremist group. the 1st part is disengagement, which is where you leave the social group. you leave the behavior you leave, but you probably still have the ideology. you've been given this nice recipe for how the world works. and you take that away from somebody and then why do they have, right they, they were looking for an analysis and you've taken away their analysis. so, you know, what's left drugs, i mean there all kinds of things that they can just sort of fall into. so you have to be very careful about it and when you're bringing them out,

you will alert them to the risks. this isn't going to be easy and they're going to be people. they're angry that do this because they've lost them when they've invested the time. and energy, and we do debriefing. you're going to, if you're going to be on the outside, we need to know everything you know about how it works on the inside cuz you're not going back in. so we're, since we're going to burn those help you burn those bridges. so you can't go back and take everything away that was associated with that world. we take away your white laces. we take away your nazi fly because it's too easy to go back into. the next part is d. radicalization where the belief systems in the audiologist are removed. you can go to go get an anti mental from the cobra for a couple years. may get your rates at the same time. it's made that big. that's how they do it, right? we're right, the anti event on the heat. you know, i mean, because we have, we had that many in our so we not spew it. and we know how to also make it in the empty mental and we had the answer. so i do believe the secret sauce is coming from a loving. you can't hate this person and expect to communicate any of that. you

can't judge this person and expect to counter that with empathy before you got out what was what was pushing you to want to get out. i wrote jackson, you know, before and after president, you know, most of my best friends, but it's like, ok in prison. you know, like, you know how you have to be. so you tend to be it. and after a while, before you realize it in a scary is you actually become that image. you are just training. i had myself every day for getting myself locked up. so when i looked at it, what made anybody else more special than me? so i have others. where does that shift come from? how come you one day you went from? not thinking about that to really saying i need to start making some changes is watch, see watching. my son grew up and visit but i was harbinger and every time i watch it, honestly, i live on that. another family because i can be out there,

the brothers didn't like that when they found out because they could just let me know. and i'll been said they tried to kill me. why now? i get shot. go all throat. and i'm, you know, i'm going to come to the car, breaks the brakes and i remember slicing child's car design. if i and i said yes, good, you need to is mad right across. and then we inside my school and opened this, i was trying to get out and just to get on time if there was one thing, then someone stuck in that life, someone in that life who may not be aware that there is a way out would you say they go all the have that hey,

owens, you poisons you're very so in the full time a lot of humans are since really during the summer in 2016, we started to see significant consistent increase in the number of incidents reported to our office we saw between 20152016, the number of anti muslim hate groups tripled. tonight the f. b, i looking into whether hate crime charges will be filed against an alleged white supremacists, accused of stabbing to good samaritans to death on a commuter train in portland. the guy who did that was someone who had been in the fringes of the all right movement, dan, america, this time for you a are real. you got there. i do that. we hear that all the time. go back to where you came from and he just amped up that rhetoric that he wants to take his country

back. and so that's that, that's the theme that runs through that. we're not going to let people come into our country. we're going to destroy, i saw this guy running for president doing the exact thing and i couldn't believe that i was hearing it, but i knew that it would work. and that was the frightening thing. because i seen it work on a clan rally and stone mountain georgia. i saw that kind of rhetoric where people are yeah, yeah, yeah. what do we do about it? there are no, no, i don't want to know about their culture. if you want your body, you can just go home, you know, a, it was as if a bucket of gasoline was kicked over and a lit up. all those little sparks that already existed into a large forest fire. part of the trumps. huge appeal was, although he doesn't think in terms of race, the way i do,

he at least thinks in terms of the nation, he recognized with united states is a nation with a particular people. and that not everybody belongs. this is a great relief to millions of white people who have seen their nation transformed in the name of diversity diversity that always comes at the expense of white people . he spoke to some, you know, some of the things that, that angry white male wants to hear. we're gonna put a wall on the border. we're going to make the mexicans pay for it. we're going to bring manufacturing jobs back as a kind of populous messaged white males, combined with racism that was found to be very attractive and everyone's premises like that idea as well. there's not thousands or tens of thousands, there's hundreds of thousands of them that have an intellectual curiosity and an understanding of national socialism that from skin had ever had. there was price you paid if you were a public with you or being a tree or anti semitism. you didn't serve you well in your career. your friends in

your neighborhood, really born excited to hang out with you. your kids might be embarrassed of you. your parents would be really upsetting you and people learned that those attitudes were not going to be beneficial to their life. i think what we're concerned about now is that blanket in that we put over it is being pulled back. that is going to be really hard to put that back where it was. ah ah ah oh,

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specific story with 3 and a 50th anniversary of peter the grades. birth is june. 9th. he rolled from 168-2217 . 25 and founded the city of saint petersburg as russians window to europe. how's his dream of russia being part of europe come to an end? at this point, this seems very like with business. and you will clean with our shoes on your medical gray you, when you wrote it, you just got over. it is just touching up group and us hearing it for awhile. you'll still searching for a different student and you get thrown with them in the program and you're still

not sure if you're here that i think if you're going to be studies of play stuff coming to enough on ok, huge and longer it was just me up posted for a moment because i knew a divorce or use a little cold run, don't know which the guy no, i don't know if i should just to do giving me that. then we're going to go to these just opinions enough is come on. ah, there was a state of emergency in florida, it's a white nationalist, was about to take stage 3 our day university of florida is grayson for potential violence today at a speech by white nationalist later richard spencer,

who the protesters gathering out. so i decided the only reason my to say, but i would say that back to you, all right, read the notion that they really were that way to find a spencer trying to do the noise for the kids with

that stuff. so, you know, i always check with these guy is gonna get killed that here. so i got, i got this guy coming. people who say, oh is all love we hey, hey, hey, hey, love these same people that happened

with hate. when i approach randy, you know, i came home. i don't want to talk to you, you know, understand you. he will cool. no problem the whole time. we couldn't really have a discussion because the camera, you know, you people pushy, i don't get tell us what was it was go find more really intimate said neil, i don't know if i'm talking to you like really? and i guess our intimate setting was force known as we were both keep out. so we encountered some police officers and they were treating randy how they would treat me on a regular day. you know, just are for what they perceive by his our parents end up wanting to rest in. yeah, i right. this maze got beat on spin. are usually spent on a magazine usually mount bus. what is he doing wrong? why yahoo had sit on the ground do this type of stuff. so we actually started walking and talking and we found out we have things in common. you know, i some,

his views about certain bay. it was certain style i'm girl and both. yeah. he was telling me he got involved in his teenage years in the area nation, and i said a lot of my friends and different people get involved and the blow to cripps in different games. they join. that's what's around you. so whatever is around you and your friends may be involved, whatever happens you're, my state is going to be on that. so for me, i just saw the similarities of what my culture would deal with just in a little different way. there's no, there's nothing new up on it. a son. his was just a different route. they angry white man, angry by 2 different angry black man is angry because he has no home. has no vision. yeah, no way to provide angry white people, especially in a lower income cause they have so many mental and role models that you can do to turn on the tv and see success. i mean, now i will be deprived too if i'm down at the bottom with black people when they

got a really bad you know, i'm why, what am i know? it isn't easy to see the thing around. and you know, no one you're gonna daugherty, you know what, better way to focus on anger that then all these people, people different feel color. i can say ignorant white man because he's angry because he doesn't really understand was listening. oh that america. he believes that he got to where do you then? you know, i'll go to bless with my ancestors back. i mean, everybody that white in america has benefited all of them. if tell me, answer that color response to amos are missing, you know, busy right now. given the wrong hope i got somebody to understand matches myself, but my culture as

a whole and look it differently just because of my individual encounter. and we talk every week med doesn't come through time. we lease others that yeah, at least you kept time. you know, your phone calls, you know, our phone calls hill and we don't was roused down. i mean, when you think about what you've done just in the last month that the turnaround correction, done what you've abandoned and what you adopted. it's most people can't even lose 10 pounds, they want to lose much less make an entire mental, emotional in lifestyle, change to humanize town, which allowed him to humanize your like that. that's not rocket science, but yeah, it's, it's evading. the majority of the country right now, there's a lot, i could, i could never look at anybody and eric, eric brother who the nation. anybody got a lot of on the same lack of i got free and that was part of his narrative and it

changes his narrative's. not that we agree with anything that comes out of the far right. so we don't ever forget that there are people inside of us people as a human being inside of this person, right? and we just choose not to forget that you don't really see x, not fina vitamin. you know, have a lot of dialogue as we do. i mean, i can consider him a friend, i was glad and i could have that effect on randy to open his eyes up to see then you know something a c. whatever may have been introduced to him or told him was proven to be a last day in madison. but i think we often

think about this and terms of the ways in which they are failing us. they are a bad man. they are floating away from us, they are deviant. and i think we need to ask the other question. also, we need to ask the question and how we are failing them. what kind of ways can we keep them in the center? and part of my answer to that is we have to find ways to keep them validated as men . it's really amazing when people feel more whole quickly and how easily the ideology of hey falls away. and if you can reconnect them to the people that they thought they hated, it helps build that. i'm them. these are that they realize that they're actually a part of the solution rather than contributing to the problem. the 1st time i've ever felt accepted any shape or form from anybody is actually

with y after have another p 5 med just recently. i feel if those is degraded. so i want everybody to know the human being year instead of like mission touches. but i have person to be able to have the different cultures and different people here. it really is good to be able to cause it to be able to interact because it teaches me that no, we're all in this together. this is a part of our emotion. foreigners are evolving into a powerful force. me and justice, quality, love, peace, compassion. we are operating as human beings from one of 2 places. here are, let me get to choose which one that is still happening in the days following happened. it was such

a turn out and theme that support for countering that narrative of white supremacy . it really flooded me with hope. i am proud that i can be a voice against what i used stamps or i thought i have something to bring to the table among the bigger and better things. while i'm still mindful of what i owe to society. but no one's better served by my guilty shame at this point, including me. me . i fired. are christine in a glock at this time. one suspects wrong about molly and you need to die. we're

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