distant to begging for more interaction. another phone call. another meeting, you know, tell me for an hour and don't be surprised when they say that's the best conversation i've had in a long time. that is something that's very routine that comes out. people just want to be listened to, and we're trying to teach you how to listen to them while we hold a mirror up. so the person can see their humanity reflected back at them through our eyes. and when we treat them as human beings treat them for the suffering person that they are, they, on the receiving end of that, they get to see that, hey there's, there is a human insights. and lastly, i think the incredible power of compassion, it was very impactful. when someone finally came along with no fear, no judgement, she heard my story, did nothing to challenge it but validated. as soon as i started talking about my mother, tears came out. i just spilled my guts about everything she had done to me the

letting her brother raised me and my sister denied the rape half and making the school back around. how many times she she tried to kill me, broken bones, bruises the starvation, the sleep deprivation, the humiliation making me swallow my own. my brothers and sisters watching is turning my brother against me. keep my sister away from me like i had never had a chance to just unleash all. and i probably went on like an hour of just the stuff she did to me. and he says, well, i want to ask a question. have you ever done this to anyone else? it just in that moment it was like i'm just like, my mother me,

me. what really changed me was receiving compassion from the people that i least deserved from when i least deserved. these people knew who i was, it was a small town. they knew what i was capable of and what i'd been doing for years and they didn't attack me. they didn't break the windows of my store, then argue ideologically with me. they came in and they were empathetic towards me, and they treated me with compassion despite the horrible person that i was at the time. the buddy might offer me a job carrying antique furniture at cherry hall in jersey law for weekend 3 days, 100 bucks a day. and i told him i so i think the job he was going to tell you before he say yes, the guy who owns this company is do and i,

so i don't care and i've talked to him, do i want to work for 6 months still thing i was in the chief would fit every jewish stereotype religious wearing alligators and i don't bring them right or you know say where i broke the marble top table and i was like, keith, i'm so stupid. i'm so sorry. 7 bowers frame. me so i so hours a day for the customer, but he just bought it off of very drove me home. i was waiting for him to fire me. so actually, you know, and i remember my not too much on that day, and i just kept my boots on a little seat of this trunk that you couldn't really put them any further than i were. and my knees were hurting so bad because it's trying to hold on or so for the

whole ride home is washed again. looks at him every day. like he doesn't know many nazi and i just don't see my boots. i knew him boots and what they did from me, they dropped me off and they were full pay. take anything, i pay a monday and i was told and i just couldn't wait for things on my feet. everyone back. i'm not scared. i wanted him. i'm done with it, i'm fluid it was 2 parts to getting out of a violent extremist group. the 1st part is disengagement, which is where you leave the social group. you leave the behavior you leave, but you probably still have the ideology. you've been given this nice recipe for how the world works and you take that away from somebody and then why do they have, right? they, they were looking for an analysis and you've taken away their analysis. so,

you know, what's left drugs, i mean there all kinds of things that they can just sort of fall into. so you have to be very careful about it. and when you're bringing them out, you will learn them to the risks. this isn't going to be easy, they're going to be people are angry that do this because they've lost someone. they've invested the time and energy and we do debriefing. you know, if you're going to be on the outside, we need to know everything you know about how it works on the inside cuz you're not going back in. so we're, since we're going to burn those help you burn those bridges. so you can't go back and take everything away that was associated with that world. we take away your white laces. we take away your nazi fly because it's too easy to go back into. the next part is d. radicalization where the belief systems in the ideology are removed or you can't go to go get an anti mental from the cobra, for a cup may get the rates at the same time, it made it big. that's how they do it, right? we're at the anti bent on the heat, you know, because we have, we had that many, you know, so we not

a spirit and we know how to also make it an anti mental and we have the answer. so i do believe the secret sauce is coming from a loving place. you can't hate this person and expect to communicate any of that. you can't judge this person and expect to counter that with empathy before you got out what was what was pushing you to want to get out. i wrote jackson, you know, before and after prison, you know, most of my best friends, but it's like, ok in prison. you know, like, you know, you have to be so you can be it. and after a while, before you realize that it's scary, is you actually become that image. you were just training. i had myself every day for getting myself locked up. so when i looked at it, what made anybody else more special than others? where did that shift come from? how come you one day you went from? not thinking about that to really saying i need to start making some changes. it was watch,

watch. my son grew up in little brother harvey. and every time watching the family, you know, saying live on the, on the family because i can be out there. the brothers didn't like that when they found out. because they could just let me alone. and they said they, you know, try to kill me. why now i get shot, go all throat and i'm, you know, i'm going to come to the right car, breaks the brakes. and i remember slicing. child car is like i said yes, good. you need to is mad right across. and then we inside the school and open this up. i'm trying to get out and just to get on time if there's one thing someone's spoken with someone in that life

who may not be aware that there's a well, we'll just send you all the hate that hey owens, you cool at poisons? you're very so mean i was on a lot of users since really during the summer, in 2016, we started to see significant consistent increase in the number of incidents reported to our office. we saw between 20152016. the number of anti muslim hate groups tripled. tonight the f. b i looking into whether hate crime charges will be filed against an alleged white supremacists, accused of stabbing to good samaritans to death on a commuter train in portland. the guy who did that was someone who had been in the fringes of the all right movement. dad, the america leave,

this country are real. you go there. i do that. we hear that all the time. go back to where you came from and he just amped up about rhetoric that he wants to take his country back. and so that's that, that's the theme that runs through the ad. we're not going to let people come into our country. i saw this guy running for president doing the exact same thing and i couldn't believe that i was hearing it, but i knew that it would work. and that was the frightening thing because i seen it work on a plan rally and stone mountain georgia. i saw that kind of rhetoric where people are yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. what do we do about it? there are no, no. i don't want to know about their goals or if your body, you could just go home. you know, a good. it was as if a bucket of gasoline was kicked over and,

and up all those little sparks that already existed into a large forest buyer. part of bunk trump. huge appeal was that, although he does not think in terms of race, the way i do, he at least thinks in terms of nation, he recognized with united states is a nation with a particular people. and that not everybody belongs. this is a great relief to millions of white people who have seen their nation transformed in the name of diversity diversity that always comes at the expense of white people . he spoke to some, you know, some of the things that, that angry white male wants to hear. we're going to put a wall on the border. we're going to make the mexicans pay ford. we're going to bring manufacturing jobs back as a kind of populous messaged white males, combined with racism that was found to be very attractive and everyone's premises like that idea as well. there's not thousands or tens of thousands, there's hundreds of thousands of them that have an intellectual curiosity and an understanding of national socialism that pro skin had ever had. there was

a price you paid if you were a public with your big tree or anti semitism. it didn't serve you well in your career. your friends in your neighborhood really weren't excited to hang out with. your kids might be embarrassed of you. your parents would be really upsetting you and people learned that those attitudes were not going to be beneficial to their life. i think what we're concerned about now is that blanket and then we put over it, is being pulled back. that it's going to be really hard to put that back where it was with lou needs to come to the russians state total narrative. i've stayed on the northland scheme

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but i just want to thank her lego, that it's all young. real name is logical. who's lots of college cool with glenda goodrich? yeah. is it public your theater? be me numbers big enough, feel. okay. the phone making god says night fortune with emotionally below that season. now she did the way of on the pavilion autism christmas. it's you know, young at the did the snow with i don't know, don't bus it don't. but very fin deal this would not have happened if vedo vida didn't push this agenda. this war like that because i'm here this week or so on. the start a new to what about a it's not a good way to get anyone up at the moment. this is put, it's ok to film was december.

ah, there was a state of emergency in florida. it's a white nationalist, was about to take stage 3. our day university of florida is bracing for potential violence today of a speech by white nationalists later richard spencer, who the protesters gathering outside the site of the mind. i would say that back to you. all right. read the notion that they really were the way to find a trying to speak to the noise or the chip with

. so you know how to check who's with this guy is grad going to get killed that here. so my, i got, i got this guy coming. hey, people who say, oh it's all love we hey, hey hey. hey, prisma please? same people had a message with hey, i was randy. you know, i came on i don't want to talk to you, you know, understand you. he was cool. no problem. the whole time, we couldn't really have a discussion because the camera, you know, you people, question, i don't get tell me what was it was go find more of a sudden, you know, i don't know if i'm talking to you going to be like really and i just are intimate said it was force known as we were both keep out. so we encountered some police

officers. they were treating remy how they would treat me on a regular day. you know, just are for what they perceive by his, our parents end up one, arrest in. yeah. and i wanted to say right, this may not be, don't spin, are usually spent on the back of it usually is mouth. but what is he doing wrong? why hasn't been sit on the ground, do this type of stuff. so we actually started walking and talking and we found out we have things in common, you know, eyes and his views about certain behavior. it was certain style i'm girl and both. yeah. he was telling me he got involved in his teenage years in the air you nation and asked is how a lot of my friends, the liberal people get involved and obliged to cripps in different games they joined. that's what's around you. so what i was around you and your friends may be involved with whatever happens your mindset is going to be on that. so for me, i just saw the similarities of what my culture would deal with just in a little different way. there's no, there's nothing new up on it. a son. he was just

a different route. they angry white man, angry, bad man to different. the angry black man is angry because he has no home has no vision. he has no way to provide angry white people, especially in a lower income cause they have so many mental and role models that you can just turn on the tv and see success. i mean, now i will be deprived to, if i'm down at the bottom would be black people and they got to really be in, you know, i'm, why, what am i know? it isn't easy to see the thing around. and you know, you know, when you're gonna, daphne, you know, what better way to focus and inger, that, than all these people people different feel color i could say ignorant white man because he's angry because he doesn't really understand was i know that america he doesn't ever stay, i got to where do you then you know, i'll for the bless,

went to assistance back. i mean, everybody. that's why it in america has benefited off that. if tell me, answer that color response to a list, i missed it. you know, busy right now, given the wrong hope i got somebody to understand matches myself, but my culture as a whole and look it differently just because of my individual encounter. and we talk every week, there are 2 times a week, at least either that the, at least 2 times, you know, your phone calls, you know, our phone calls and we talk, when was my hours with when you think about what you've done just in the last month, the turn around the correction, the what you've abandoned and what you adopted it's most people can't even lose 10

pounds. they want to lose much less make an entire mental, emotional in lifestyle, change to humanize town, which allows them to humanize your liking. that, that's not rocket science, but yeah it's, it's evading. the majority of the country right now, there's me law could, i could never get anybody and aaron umbrella who had a nation or anybody who got lots of only given the same lack of i got free and that was part of his barrier narrative and changes his narrative, it's not that we agree with anything that comes out of the far right is that will don't ever forget that there are people inside of those people. but you know that there's a human being inside of this person, right. and we just choose not to forget that we don't really see x, not sienna vitamin, you know, have a lot of dialogue as we do. but i mean, i can consider here him a friend. i was glad i could have that effect on randy. open his eyes up to

see then you know something i see whatever may have been introduced to him or told him was proven to be a last day in the matter. but i think we often think about this and terms of the ways in which they are failing us. they are bad men, they are floating away from us. they are deviant. and i think we need to ask the other question. also, we need to ask the question and how we are failing them. what kind of ways can we keep them in the center? and part of my answer to that is we have to find ways to keep them validated as men . it's really amazing when people feel more whole quickly and how easily ideology

of hate falls away. and if you can reconnect them to the people that they thought they hated. it helps build that the so that they realize that there are actually a part of the solution rather than contributing to the problem. the 1st time i've ever felt accepted any shape or form from anybody is actually with white after have another p 5 met just recently. i feel as if those it's to grade. so i want everybody to know the human being here, instead of like i miss it. but i have person to be able to have different cultures and different people here. it is really good to be able to close this to be able to interact because it teaches me that, you know, we're all in this together. this is a part of our solution. farmers are,

are evolving and our full force justice, quality, love, peace, compassion. we are operating as human beings from one or 2 places, fear or laugh. i mean get to choose which one that is still happening in the days following boston happened. it was such a turn out and just seemed that a mortgage support for countering that narrative of white supremacy. it really flooded me with hope. i am proud that i can be a voice against what i used to dance or i thought i have something to bring to the table among the bigger and better things. while i'm still mindful of what i owe to society. but no one's better served by my

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