from that and shrink the time frame down, so there's less one less wandering in the wilderness, so to speak. when i was in the move in the last 2 years before i left, i was struggling with do i want to leave? i like part of me want to leave another part in battle with us. if i leave, i have nothing to fall back on. i have not been positive. do i have nobody to go to? you know me? no that's. i lived around last 7 years. i have nothing sometimes it's hard if they've got a swastika tattooed on their neck, it's hard for them, but just to say, i don't do that anymore. it's kind of a long process. it's not like you just leave it one day and you're like, oh god, that's over. i had been out of the movement before i got connected with these guys, but i was on my own and didn't talk about it and had a lot of buried shame and guilt. and then i met these guys and i saw, you know, frankly talking arnold talk, it helped me get past that barrier of feeling like i had to hide this from world. that opening up has really just taken my, my viewing process and my evolution to

a whole other level. really, you've got to find a way to find an affirmation and every discussion, no matter how bad it feels, it is going. you've just got to be able to acknowledge like takes guts to do that. trying to help them discover the abilities that they have. this is why we don't want to foster dependency. this is why the intervention can't rely on my christmas . they go from being untrusted hateful, spiteful, distant, to begging for more interaction. another phone call. another meeting, you know, tell me poor and don't be surprised when they say that's the best conversation i've had in a long time. that is something that's very routine that comes out of people just want to be listened to. and we're trying to teach you how to listen to them. well, we hold a mirror up so the person can see their humanity reflected back of them through our eyes. but when we treat them as human beings treat them for the suffering person that they are, and they, on the receiving end of that, they get to see that, hey, there's human insights. and lastly, i think the incredible power of compassion,

it was very impactful. when someone finally came along with no fear, no judgement, she heard my story, did nothing to challenge it but validated. as soon as i started talking about my mother, tears came out. i just spilled my guts about everything she had done to me. but her brother raised me and my sister denied the rape happen, making the school back around. how many times she she tried to kill me, broken bones, bruises the starvation, the sleep deprivation, the humiliation making me swallow my own. my brothers and sisters watching is turning my brother against me. keep my sister away from me like i had never had a chance to just unleash all. and i probably went on like an hour of just the stuff she did to me. and he says, well, i want to ask another question, is i have you ever done this to anyone else?

just in that moment it was like i'm just like my mother me what really changed me was receiving compassion from the people that i least deserved from when i least deserved. people knew who i was, it was a small town. they knew what i was capable of and what i'd been doing for 8 years, and they didn't attack me. they didn't break the windows of my store, and then argue ideologically with me. they came in and they were empathetic towards me. and they treated me with compassion, despite horrible person that i was at the time me,

the buddy might offer me a job carrying in furniture at cherry hill, new jersey long for weeks 3 days, 100 bucks a day and i told him i so i think the job, he was going to tell you, before he say yes, the guy who owns this company is due. and i said, karen, i've talked to him, do i? and i went to work for me in 6 months. i still think it was in the nazi chief would fit every jewish stereotype. religious where you alligators, i don't bring them right. you know say where i broke the marble top table and i was like, i'm so stupid. i'm so sorry. 7 bowers frame. me

so i so hours a day rate for the customer, but in spite of very drove me home. i was waiting for you to fire me. so actually, you know, that i remember my not too much on that day, and i kept my boots on a little seat of his trunk that you couldn't really put him any further than i were . and my knees were hurting so bad because it's trying to hold him up there. so for the whole right old swastikas looks at him every day. like he has a normal neo nazi. and i just don't want him to see my boots with him. and then from me, they dropped me off and they were full paid and take anything monday. and i was told and i just couldn't wait for 10 things off my feet. everyone back. i'm not scared wanted. i mean i'm done with it. i'm fluid

me was 2 parts to getting out of a violin extreme the script. the 1st part is disengagement, which is where you leave the social group. you leave the behavior you leave, but you probably still have the ideology. you've been given this nice recipe for how the world works and you take that away from somebody and then what do they have, right? they, they were looking for an analysis and you've taken away their analysis. so, you know, what's left drugs, i mean, are all kinds of things that they can just sort of fall into. so you have to be very careful about it. and when you're bringing them out, you will alert them to the risks. this isn't going to be easy, they're going to be people are angry that do this because they've lost someone. they've been better than time and energy and we do debriefing. you know, if you're going to be on the outside, we need to know everything you know about how it works on the inside cuz you're not going back in. so we're, since we're going to burn those help you burn those bridges. so you can't go back and take everything away that was associated with that world. we take away your

white laces. we take away your nazi flag because it's too easy to go back into. the next part is d. radicalization where the belief systems in the audiology are removed or you can't go to go get an anti mental from the cobra for a couple weeks, may get the rates at the same time, the snake that figured that's how they do it. we're at the anti event on the main because we have, we had that metal min are we not spew it and we know how to also make it an anti mental and we had the answer. so i do believe the secret sauce is coming from a loving place. you can't hate this person and expect to communicate any of that. you can't judge this person and expect to calmer, that with empathy before you got out what was what was pushing you to want to get up. i wrote jackson, you know, before and after present, you know, most of my best friends, but it's like, ok in prison. you know, like, you know, you have to be. so you tend to be. and after a while,

before you realize it is scary, is you actually become that image. you are just for training. i had a myself every day for getting myself locked up. so when i looked at it, what made anybody else more special than me? i hate them. where did that shift come from? how come you one day you went from not thinking about that to really say and i need to start making some changes. it was why she wasn't much longer up in the heart range. and every time watching the same level that in the family, because i can be out there, the brothers didn't like that when they found out because they could just let me know when they do, said they, you know, try to kill me is why now i get shots go off the road and i'm, you know, i'm going to come to the car, breaks the brakes and i remember slicing. charles call us up. right.

like i said, yes, good. you need to is mad right across. and then we inside the school and open this i up about trying to get out just to get on time. if there's one thing, there's someone stuck in someone in that life who may not be aware that there's a way out. what would you say they go all the have that have ruins . you poisons, you're very so me and i left him a lot of human since really, during the summer, in 2016, we started to see a significant, consistent in the number of incidents reported to our office. we saw between

20152016. the number of anti muslim, hey groups tripled tonight the f b, i walking into whether have crime charges will be filed against in alleged white supremacists, accused of stabbing to good samaritans to death on a commuter train in portland. the guy who did that was someone who had been in the fringes of the all right. movement on erica lee. the country of us are great on there that we hear that all the time go back to where you came from. and he just amped up that rhetoric that he wants to take his country back. and so that's, that's the theme that runs through that. and we're not going to let people come in to our factory. troy. i saw this guy running for president doing the exact same thing and i couldn't believe that i was hearing it, but i knew that that would work. and that was the frightening thing because i've seen it work on a klan rally in stone mountain, georgia. i saw that kind of rhetoric where people are yeah, yeah, yeah,

yeah. what do we do about their culture? i don't want to know about their culture. if you want your body, you could just go back to much, much bucket of gasoline was kicked over and lit up. all those little sparks that already existed into a large forest fire. part of donald trump's huge appeal was that although he does not think in terms of race, the way i do, he at least thinks in terms of nation, he recognized that the united states is a nation with a particular people. and that not everybody belongs. this is a great relief to millions of people who have seen their nation transformed in the name of diversity diversity that always comes at the expense of white still to some

you know, some of the things that, that angry white male wants to hear. we're gonna put a wall on the border. we're going to make the mexicans pay forward. we're going to bring manufacturing jobs back as a kind of populous messaged white males, combined with racism that was found to be very attractive and everyone's premises like that idea as well. there are thousands or tens of thousands, there's hundreds of thousands of them that have an intellectual curiosity and an understanding of national socialism that no skin had ever had. there was a price you paid if you were a public with your big tree or anti semitism. you didn't serve you well in your career, your friends in your neighborhood, really burnt, excited to hang out with. your kids might be embarrassed of you. your parents would be really upsetting you. and people learned that those attitudes were not going to be beneficial to their life. i think what we're concerned about now is that blanket and that we put over it is being pulled back. that it's going to be really hard to

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ah, there was a state of emergency in florida. it's a white nationalist, was about to take stage in the 3 hour day. university of florida is breaking for potential violence today of a speech by white nationalist later richard spencer, who the protesters gathered outside the site of the only reason my to say. but i will say that back to you. all right, and read the notion that they really were that way to find a spencer trying to speak to the noise, the kids you wrote and you know, with

that stuff. so you know how to check with these guy guy's gonna get killed that here. so i got, i got this guy. got this. hey, people who say, oh is all love we hey, hey, hey hey, hey, priscilla please same people with what i post randy. you know, i came on i don't want to talk to you, you know, understand you. he will cool no problem the whole time. we couldn't really have a discussion because these camera, you know, you people, question, i don't get done with what was it was go find more really intimate. and you know, i don't know if i'm talking to you can be like really and i guess our intimate setting was force known as we were both keep out. so we encountered some police

officers, they were treating randy how they would treat me on a regular day, you know, just awful what they perceive by his our parents end up one arrest in. yeah. i right. this maze got beat on it's been are usually it's been on the back is it usually is manuel. what is he doing wrong? why you haven't been, sit on the ground, do this type of stuff. so we actually started walking and talking and we found out we have things in common. you know, i some his views about certain bay. it was certain i'm girl and both. yeah. he was telling me he got involved in his teenage years in the air you nation. and i said, a lot of my friends and different people get involved in the blow to cripps in different games they joined. that's what's around you. so what i was around you and your friends may be involved, whatever happens you're, my state is going to be on that. so for me, i just saw the similarities of what my culture would deal with just in a little different way. there's no, there's nothing new up on it. a son. his was just

a different route. they angry white man, angry by 2 different people. the angry black man is angry because he has no home, has no vision, no way to provide angry white people, especially in a lower income because they have so many mental role models that you can just turn on the tv and see success. i mean that i would be deprived to it down at the bottom with black people and they've got a reason to be that you know, i'm white. what am i know? is it easy to see your own? and you know, when your doctor, the doctor any you know, better way to focus setting or that they don't nice people is a different color, i guess a white man because he's angry because he doesn't really understand what he doesn't even say i got the way out for the blessed waiting to hear the

professors back. i mean everybody. that's why it in america has benefited on give me answer that color or response davis or miss busy right now. given me or help me. i got some matter to understand that just myself. but my culture as a whole and look it differently just because of my individual encounter every week to 3 times a week that the least do job time. phone calls, you know, hours of phone, goldhill time was broward me . i mean, when you think about what you've done, just in the last month, the turn around the correction, the what you've abandoned and what you would opted it's most people can't even lose

10 pounds. they want to lose much less make an entire mental, emotional lifestyle change to humanize town, which allows them to humanize your like that, that's not rocket science but yeah, it's, it's, he rating the majority of the country right now. there's the law. i could, i could never look at anybody and eric, eric, bro, who, the nation, anybody got a lot of only saying lack of, i got free and that, that was part of his narrative and changes his narrative. not that we agree with anything that comes out of the far right. so we don't ever forget that there are people inside of those people, but you know that there's a human being inside of this person, right. and we just choose not to forget that you don't really see x not seen the batman, you know, have a lot of dialogue as we do. but i mean, i can consider him a friend. i was glad i could have that effect on randy to open his eyes up to

see then you know something a c whatever may have been introduced to him or told him was proven to be a last day in madison. but i think we often think about this and terms of the ways in which they are failing us. they are a bad man. they are floating away from us. they are deviant. and i think we need to ask the other question. also, we need to ask the question and how we are failing them. what kind of ways can we keep them in the center? and part of my answer to that is we have to find ways to keep them validated as men . it's really amazing. when people feel more whole quickly and easily ideology of

hate all the way and if you can reconnect them to the people that they thought they hated, helps know that i'm them. these are that they realize that they're actually a part of the solution rather than contributing to the problem. the 1st time i've ever felt accepted any shape or form from anybody is actually with white after have another p 5 med just recently. i feel as if those it's degraded so i want everybody to know the human being year instead of like a mission touches. but i have person to be able to have the different cultures and different people here. it really is good to be able to coach this, to be able to interact because it teaches me that, you know, we're all in this together. this is a part of our solution and farmers are,

are evolving into a powerful force and justice quality from love, peace, compassion. we are operating as human beings from one of 2 places, fear or laugh. i mean, get to choose which one that is are still happened in the days following boston happened. it was such a turn out and just seemed that pouring support for countering that narrative of white supremacy. it really flooded me with hope. i am proud that i can be a voice against what i used stamps or i feel like i have i have something to bring to the to among the bigger and better things. while i'm still mindful of what i owe to society. but no one's better served by my realtor

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