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ah hello, nicole shadeen and i saw you were a small continuum edition of an as meeker coming to you from the syrian capital damascus in with an interview with syrian president, bashar i la, sad, sad, a said mister president, welcome to our tea and thank you for receiving us actually will show, can honestly, suffolk, another vehicle. i know you are welcome in damascus, syria feed, you much. thank you very much. let us start mister president with the most prominent issue in the international arena. and it will some lesson from our viewers on arabic retina. tom, why has damascus supported the russian special military operation? ukraine, a lot of blue. there are several reasons. first, russia is, syria is allied, and russia is facing a war which in my view is not linked to the expansion of nato. as some people may think who feel this animosity has existed even before communism and the 1st world war. it is an ongoing war and russia plays an important role to ensure an
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international equilibrium exists. so we can view russia from 2 perspective. so the 1st is that of an al auto, even if our ally triumphs in the battle, or if they're political position is strengthened on the international arena. then this is a win for a solo. from a 2nd perspective. russia's power to day constitutes a restoration. and i'll buy partial of an international equilibrium. this rebalance that we are witness, single impact smaller countries, including syria. this is my strategic view that the bottom line without going into other legal battles. and russian officials say that it is a battle for a new world order. mister president, do you see this as the final throws of american hedge money, or are we still far away from multiple or world class alpha, weedy that on? there are those who referred to this war as the end of the unipolar system that was created as a result of the collapse of the soviet union. all this is an accurate, it is partially correct if we are referring to nato after the disappearance of the warsaw pact. or if we view it from
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a political perspective and the dominance of western powers under the leadership of the united states at the head of the un security count as like discipline. however, in reality, the unipolar system was created after the 2nd world war. when the bretton woods conference established a new monetary order that made the u. s. dollar the world reserve currency. today, what is more important than the military outcomes, or at least what is equally important, so as not to exaggerate the economic outcomes of this war, particularly the status of the dollar. if the dollar continues to govern the world economy, nothing will change regardless of the results of the warrior. the thing with the dollar, and many people say that the united states is using the dollar to blackmail the world. and those who opposed it. 100 view this western economics in the war against moscow. and can it be compared with the economic sanctions against syria? first, using the dollar is not blackmail. it is robbery because after the 2nd world war, the americans pledged that the dollar would reflect the gold reserved haggle, the dollar to gold. at the beginning of the 1970, starting the next administration,
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the united states decided to abandon the gold standard of separating the dollar from gold. and consequently, it became overworked and it's a piece of paper. but in fact, the united states continue to trade around the world using this worthless piece of paper. this is robbery, and it applies to the whole world. recently, the u. s. raised interest rates and as a consequence of the value of all other currencies drop affecting the economically weaker countries above. yes, it is a tool for sanction. we'll see as long as the dollar is a mobile currency and continues to be settled in the us banks, or what is called the american federal reserve. if you are under the authority of this dollar, and therefore your future as a stage will my country or society as an economy is under the mercy of the united states. it is a central part of the sanction. without it, the dollar america would not be a super power at all. what mister president, i also asked about the comparison between sanctions against moscow in the
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experience of damascus and disregard. what the stand is, this comparison valid if you thought of city and you mean the sanctions regardless of the dollar, of course is the same mentality, the mentality of her colonialism and aggregate a little. they still believe that the situation is as it was several decades ago, and that the west controls and everything the world today, the world has changed and there is russia, china, and many other rising countries. yes, we are under sanction, but many of our basic needs are not bought from western country. we have severed our relation that these countries don't have the same mentality and this will lead to the same failure for every country can now, since your basic livelihood and growth requirements without american permission, more than this could be a positive message for russian citizens. but let's talk all some mr. president about the syrian citizens and all the economic challenges they face on the sanctions. the only reason for this crisis, the collapse of this year and pound the difficult living conditions and other challenges. bob was going to have
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a lot of it and i don't know not at all. and i have stated this publicly yet. the sanctions are part of the problem because they raise costs and slow the economical process. but there are other global reasons like cove in 1900, for example. the west is presenting a narrative that the current problems are a result of the brain war and more precisely, a result of russian policy. the reality however is different, and some of the national challenges are due to internal economic plan and not only external factors. so it is important to distinguish between challenges arising as a result and sanction for as a result of government plans or as a result of the overall economic environment which could be due to policies of companies or happens to citizen or these all impact of the economic situation both positively and negatively. part of it has to do with corruption to exactly the economy is affected by numerous factors, including management as well. and let them stop a little with your plan for competing corruption, doing how to do most countries in the state of war tend to delay or halt many core
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processor. and one of which is fighting corruption level in syria. our view is different because of the war we need more than ever to combat corruption. this is for the simple reason wars weakened state institutions. when state institutions are weak, corruption becomes more widespread. this is a common unfortunate consequences of war in any countries and it is not unique. it's a serious problem. therefore, during such a times, you need to increase your efforts in combating corruption. and this is what we are doing. of course, there are obstacles. a war of self is an obstacle, the weakness of state institutions as a result of the war is another obstacle, as well as the administrative system that requires a lot of reform and is the most important factor in fighting corruption. so we are proceeding with this approach across all secretary, political, economic, and administrative. but due to our current circumstances, there is no guarantee that we won't be able to achieve our ambitions, fully gender. this is true particularly that the syrian people have renewed, they trust you, mr. president, your campaign slogan of us hope in action,
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but in our tour of the country and when talking with syrians and start frustration because of the difficult conditions they're facing. but here we are. to what extent can this whole be revived in a serious that is losing its oil resources because they're under control of other parties and we'll address this shortly as well as having to deal with other challenges. wheat, for example, what you have available to you, mister president. i will get for you 1st. what you were saying is correct. i suggested hope because there is frustration. i recognize this frustration which led me to adopt the slogan. second, these words are not a slogan, but they are the title of a solution. hope doesn't coming from the sitting around and waiting. it comes from our attempts to be proactive and productive. do we have the necessary tools to be productive? yes, of course. we do help on otherwise the state would not have endure on medical care and syria is free despite the decline of services. education is free and despite the decline on quality of education, as
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a result of the circumstance of subsidies are still available. despite the increasing rate of all of these basic services that are available with no change in our policy. similar lee or their new facility, you say no, the enterprise is growing or emerging during this period of war. of course, there are, there are many people who love their country and are ready to take risks and invest in this current climate, which is not strategy for investment when what is required of the syrian citizens? how can they accommodate meeting their daily need to under deteriorating living conditions, calling i considered to be on the island? i know 100 well if we agree that an increase in productivity is the best solution to improve living conditions and services that we would identify what we call our main obstacle is electricity. and as such, our focus since 2021 has been to find solutions to the electricity shortage, which is a result of the sanction. we have been successful and it is safe to say that during 2022 and we will witness and improvement in this field. towards no doubt will have
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a positive impact on our production capability. so both the problem and the solution have been clearly identified. while we are moving in the right direction. we should not raise or expectations too high, and we'll leave that all our problems. that will be result. you will not at all. there will be an improvement and it will be graduate. well, we must be aware that there are circumstances that are not in our favor. there are attempts to undermine every step will take words development. we must deal with each problem and as it arises and continue to find the standard in solution. luckily, this is all part of the war. when i say there is hope, it means we have the tools and capabilities to face all tremulous from external forces to undermine growth and syrian how the temp also like to political pharmacy . perhaps some talk about the constitutional meeting. why did not make progress in your opinion of a lot of know this is totally different and has nothing to do with the sanction. we're referring to the constitutional committee, then the requirement is to arrive at the constitution, but a constitutional,
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that expression of the desires, the value of the aspirations. and the culture of the syrian people are the one that is a middle ground between all the different and some currents that exist in our society . so if this is the result we aspire that we should then logically, we are talking about a dialogue between syria or what we might call a syrian syrian dialogue under the assumption that there are 2 partners with regard to the constitutional committee. we are also referring to to party 1st party was proposed by the syrian government with its members are neither diplomatic nor government employees, or if they do represent the views of the syrian government. the 2nd party is appointed by turtling. so the logical question is, how is it possible to have a syrian syrian dialogue when one party is syrian and the other party is turkey. so this is the problem that can, this is why we are not machining anything because quite simply, the 1st part presses the aspirations of monsieur in people while the other party expresses the aspirations of the turkish government. and you will have to worry
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about that except that another letter, mister president, let's talk about with the other party. there are those who say that the syrian government just concerned that the constitutional committee will do something that interferes with their story of the president. what do you say notion, this is not an issue the, the syrian constitution does not express the views of the president or the government or the ruling party, or it expresses the unanimous views of the syrian people or anything agreed by the syrians as correctly. and any date that is created in any form should be in alignment with the new constitutional. this is fine and it was not, there cannot be stability. that is at odds with the wish of the you know, this is why whatever outcome is read by the constitutional committee now or later or under any other circumstances, must be put to a popular referendum here, taylor will not be passed by the government. this is a definitive, it should reflect in their wishes and hands of the people either approve or reject the confusion. to build consensus among syria, that might be the objective of the general issue,
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which opened the door for the return of tearing refugees and other reformation decisions. nevertheless, criticisms be offended by all those who charlotte nod being in our will be treated as traders of the homeland shuttle aside from the b. and you know, there are laws in syria. we do not have what is commonly referred to as political prisoner. this term does not exist. there are national given, and we have to be careful to not continues political freedom with transgressing against national, giving a csc to someone might say, why don't we give up our occupied territories to israel. so this is punishable by law and it is a national issue and not a political one. the same principle applies to other things, like opposing the president, what's on you. and there are many syrians and syria who do not agree with me on many public opposition to a person or a government is one thing for transgressing against the national give. there's another those who are the host can do. so there is no problem. and this does not affect me person. this also apply to the kurdish forces. look at the more the
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kurdish issue is different if we look at it from a national perspective, the current concept, an ethnic city that has existed in syria throughout history for the majority of them, are patriotic issues. however, there are some who are not the justice. there are also some arabs, non arabs who are also not patriotic and, you know, act as agents for others. especially americans. issue has nothing to do with the president of the war with political opposition with the issue here is the unity of the syrian homeland mobile, the notion of multiple necessities taking the form of canton. it's a war federation is the beginning of division, whereas the syrians, diversity, within a framework of national unity is enriching. and we view this part of the training and your neck, religious, and like terry and diversity enriches syrian society. not the other way. however, when it is presented in the wrong framework, it becomes a courtesy and this is something we do not allow tomorrow to do with the doors open for dialogue with everyone, with the exceptions of don't described as agents,
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particularly of the united states. but sometimes we have to engage in our lives. i'd like to focus on the curtis work particular those to control the oil. well, with american, what do you use on this? and what god does damascus have in order to restore its acid, it enters teresa pena cut the how all the, the problem with any occupation of a country or any invasion is not the invasion itself, regardless of how big the army is to view the problem, lies with the agents who support the invader model of, of this is the issue and it exists in syria or not. there are forces acting under the authority of the american. yes. and on their behalf against the unity of syrian society. and we're still not the normal reaction, which is what we're starting to see in those areas of eastern area is popular resistance. since the vast majority of the population of do not accept these deviations and refuse to deal with the occupier and this treason, this has started a conflict between these forces and the local population. as long as there are people who act as agency, the occupier will remain strong usually. so 1st that these agents should be purged,
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they should be weaker timid and then the occupier will automatically leave because popular resistance will increase again to set up of the solution. then in facing any invasion, particularly when you do not have the necessary military capability, so is popular resistance. ah ah, need to come to the russian state. little narrative. i've side as i'm phoning the most landscape div asking him then i'll set up for a group in the 55 with okay, so mine is gonna be the one else with we will ban in the european union,
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the kremlin. yup. machine. the state aunt rush up to date and school r t spoke neck. even our video agency, roughly all band on youtube said lucas little she did. you think even close to chat with me? ah,
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i think that could a hotel and we're not talking here only about the american challenge for you also have cherokee which no longer hides in session to creed, but it describes as a st zone. insight syrian territory. what are your plans to promote that? maria holcombe. women that have enough leopold. it is within the same framework. i don't know if there is an invasion there will be popular resistance in the 1st instance is to was of course the syrian army is not deployed and all the syrian territory, but in the areas where it is to and the matter and when conditions allow for direct military confrontation, we will not hesitate. well this was the case 2 and a half years ago when there was a clash between syrian and turkish arlington and the syrian army destroyed some turkish hardy that had moved into syria and territory. all the same will happen again as much as the military capabilities will allow us to click on a call. and what about what is the vision for the situation there like any occupied territory? it is subject to the syrian military and political plans for liberation of the
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whole. there is no doubt about any land occupied by the turkish or by the terrorists who will be liberated in find model to find the end with the exist. well, the problem i filed there are those for talking over a construction. are there any urgent that lands in that regard? others have expressed their willing that the board. they're also building mr. president who made the link mean this in your visit to united way. mary, darby will try to catch up at a tunnel, but there are companies from various areas and not the states themselves which have expressed a desire to take part. if we take into account the extreme pressure applied by the west, through sanctions, on any accountability that might investigative area, we recognize that the process will be slow and risky for many. nevertheless, there are those that are preparing to invest in syria in the ways which circumvent the sanctions. if we want to talk about reconstruction in the broad sense, i cannot say that the current political, economic, or security situation allows or large scale reconstruction will never the less
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a process of reconstruction has started out by the limited. this is partly through investors and companies or individuals were rebuilding their facilities and partly throughout the state. so happy in rebuilding the art around kind of the core of economic life. and some of the big i'd like to stop a little with you on the die, the in serious return, this large gain crime. how do you yourself see it? it out of my whole case i, i don't know how a large gate is defined and what the word return means because we never left syria has remained in claims with the same positions and the same conditions dealing with them in its own way. and according to its principles and perspective over, i would like to say that in their essence, syrian arab relations have not changed much during the war. sarab states have maintained their relations with us and stood with us hold on to do it all. even those that were true, the diplomatic mission? yes, even those that went through their diplomatic mission was changed their relationship
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and capital. was it a feeling us here in, despite not being able to do anything, the position is the same as formal changes happening in this relationship as a result of the change in work, or stances, whether regional or any other matter that i cannot go on their behalf. whenever i do not believe there is a great change in the big change that is happening in terms of form, you will let us on. it does have any grudge against the countries which amanda her during its crisis. one of the 1st of all, to grudges proof of witness. secondly, begrudging doesn't lead anywhere but does not create any positive results, especially in relation with countries. thirdly, and we have to distinguish between policy errors are made by holidays and the people in the for that. we seek arab arab relations, which means relations between people. and in this case, there are no grudge unless you mean, unfortunately, we know that our countries have their own circumstance level, but we are able to say, you know, on many issues with our habits, many or countries are unable to do the same location, but it is
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a fate are completely mobile and we have to deal with laming and complaining did not achieve results often more hopeful. later in the near future, the arab summit will be hosted by a jury and many people are talking about you end and have some other steps in this regard and that i was the he had the little problem. i couldn't was no, perhaps the only wait is some it has is the fact that it is held. and al jerry, this is a fact. i am not being diplomatic. missouri is relations with algeria under all circumstances and independence from france in the early 19. whatever have been consistent, there is something solid between the 2 peoples, maybe because the history is similar despite the different period of shot. if we address the arab league regardless of the jury summons with the question of not a serious return or non return. and the word return is wrong, because syria is still in the room to help the membership was suspended on syria did not of the issue is what will the arab please do in the future regardless of
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whether sir is in the league or not. yes, and will it show any of that ration of the citizen i'm and why do not believe that it has achieved anything route for that 3 decades. and certainly during the last year that she was a couple of, or the aggression against libya and again, syria and every other aggression. whether will it be able to make this policy or not? the arab lea continues with nothing will change in the end of our bill. dates are subjected to external pressure on all areas. as long as this of the case, the results will be the same and it is negative ultima. and then therefore, theory is return with a termination of the engine and something a form of it might have some benefits, but we don't count on them pseudo. it was a dolly allowed on italian was what he completed the steps taken recently, including your job and army. and it was a talk to me many is going to that up in jury and nothing to worry about. enter in the name listed and then come up. so i will
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be happy to visit any arab country that this is for sure, but it cannot happen without an invitation for it is normal and to think of visiting our countries. because despite the utterly or state of the world, we have to limit the damage and avoid more declining. the dialogue with arab countries in arabic officials is essentially one the 3, not a state. she said, well, here we might point out something very important. and i may say that any return to normal relations with the area through the relationship with iran and will not be perfect as long as the relations between damascus con, continue to balance relations with iran on the land. and let me see what your relations returned on the other elementary in serious relations with any country are not subject to discussion with anyone. no one decides for syria with holy middle can and cannot have relation. let us know. no one decides
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for us, nor do we decide for anyone else. this issue is not a subject for discussion and is not even on the table then it was raised to us when we got rejected right away today. this is 1st 30. secondly, many countries that used to raise this issue in the past we have not done so for years because they themselves are engaged with iran. and this is a contradiction. thirdly, iran is an important country. if we want to talk about debility in the middle east, we need to relations with all these countries. but if we want to talk about balance between relations, the principal is wrong model of the was on when and all that. and let the particular lead to damascus has achieved it for many years. let him exactly, but not based on the idea of that was because of the balance implies that there are contradictory parties that we need to balance between. we do not want to do this way and we believe that all these companies out of common hand out such a process, not your relation and i would rather and good my legal currently,
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there is dialogue for julian, the gulf of data and iran. and i thought, i might say mindy ation after, during normal relations between really odd handling what was known for one of course, the basic logic implies that if there is a disagreement, hardy is that you have good relations, which is only normal for you to play the role immediate or the individual and the collective of all countries in the region. whenever we do have is a normal relation of all the already a most. and so we are unable to lay this roll. lot of cattle probably have been normal relations or in their station on the point of a number of the air of capital with israel putting a fold in their motivation in relations between the countries and israel. and there have been rooms that haven't theory to the fact that the masters will normalize and the condition of restoring me off. if i go on, be sure that this happened and you can nice, the 1st term is wrong. in syria, we have rejected the term of normalization since the beginning of the peace process in the name. because normalization, as a linear, herman lies
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a normal relationship and a normal relationship she smoothly like water without obstacles, cannot coerced or artificial data for the term normalization, however, is artificial and in that it aim at pushing words in concession is in return for nothing but this is the object in syria, the term is normal relations and this is linked to a peace process which is linked to the return of writing. this is definitive. on the other hand, we're against a relationship with israel, regardless of whether we refer to it as normalization or anything else. this is been the case from the onset. this process started with 1970 and today our position remains the same called the we do not agree with any process and we believe that all the processes had damaged our call or let alone the palestinian in the 1st the however, the biggest, the law and this also agreeable, which granted all the candidates to israel by the owner of palestine of hawes damn
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. and consequently providing a justification for any country in the world normalize relations were make play with history and all what you like. it doesn't matter because the owner of the cause has abandoned us, so we are against normalization. medically to the facts, syria will never change my position as long as there isn't occupied land, which is the goal was that when the goal is restored, we can talk. when this does not come in the framework normalization but rather in terms of having normally between what any 2 status might read or shop ok for for digital. now the last one while we're talking is really shelling continues on the target. the last of which was the surrounding of the moscow airport. so we'd like to hear your comment on that and valid on the one. this is a different issue, although would ultimately lead to the same subject which is pushing syria or make these really interference at the beginning was link directly to when the terrorist collapsed and syria. because the terrorists for us israel army bite with
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a syrian or other identity navy. so when the terrorist we get to retreat and they're more al collapsed, the israeli intervention was necessary to raise the morale, to re mobilize what israel is doing. now comes within this framework and nothing out, you know, the last question with which i'd like to lose with your excellency, the image of the west projects about it president bashar assad. they said that the president standing in the people and against the regional and international hours today, after about a year, you're being elected by this year in people and the positive tone as i said, and in western capital. well, let me say in their national caterpillar, when the image changed, i mean the health of erica for benefit in terms of the general public. yes, it has chanced not because we've been able to rattle the west using a different language or because of different abilities. but rather because the big lie and the western officials used in the beginning did, and unlimited exaggeration that put them in a difficult position with the client who are didn't know how to come back. and what
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we call the official channels are the major media outlets in the west continue to spread these lines and that have close political affiliation walker. we know that many of the comment was written by their own citizens or to show that they no longer believe this narrative. well, if we want to address that is supposed to revolution, what is this revolution and continue for 11 years with the support from the longest and richest countries in the world. a revolution that supposedly represents the wish of the people against the state. yet this state has not follow how does the state consist of superman dodge? this lie is not convinced i believe, to the heart of this length of time there is in addition to many other lies that their citizens have on the cover on the passing of todd. yeah. so yes, i can say that the picture has changed, but well, this does not mean that people living in the west let him know what is going on. i think they know there is a big lie and they do not necessarily know the big truth and our children because the waiting to know the truth was no doubt about that. but we thank you very much.
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your excellency, president bashar, our side of syria. and thanks to our viewers, good bye. with ukraine's army shells to stand up don't yet pitied damaging a residential building near the office that they were public's leader. and that pro on social media of the mainstream news article showed a random ukrainian residents with a swastika on his dom despite western denial of a neo nazi presence in the country with african countries back russia when opposing to a western unipolar world, as, according to one of the architects of moscow foreign policy since a constant in pose a child who has been b, who's given an exclusive interview to asi, most african countries share rushing approaches of disagreement with the western.

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