is offensive, very dramatic, and developing only personally and getting to resist. i don't see how that strategy will be successfully, very critical time. time to sit down and talk with pregnant women and newborns come under attack. been done yet. local authorities accused ukrainian forces of conducting devastating artillery strikes on this city, including the bombardment of a maternity hospital. we hear from people of the medical facility. we heard the commotion and ran into the basement, the walls, the windows were shaking. we ran to the basement and spend the night there. women were giving birth to right in the basement. we're relying here on the floor and all of us back with the head of nato is suggest key. i may have to consider feeding territory to reach a peace deal with russia. those there's

a potential risk of the conflict further escalating ukraine come from the cold reality as it knocks on the use door to turn the block. but some european countries oppose giving fast track status to the membership applicant with broadcasting for moscow. this is our t. my name's unit o'neill and 30 minutes of news and views starting on the worst shelling since the contract began. that's how local officials have described a series of intense attacks believe to have been conducted by ukrainian forces on the city of been yet several civilians are reported to have been killed in just 2 hours on monday, around $300.00 rockets, rain done on the city, striking civilian areas, including a market place in the maternity hospital, parts of which caught fire. we got some immediate reaction from locals. yes,

you have could you say i was sitting in an armchair. my husband was in the bathroom walking. we had a blast and windows shattered. i looked around and there was blood everywhere. i jumped out into the corridor to see what happened to him, but she was okay. thank god said sheila, so to what will you what, what are you hit by the shark just as i wish to dunham? yes. yes. shots from windows and even from door panels, hit me. the doctors kept me over and removed all the glass from my arms and legs. another guy was taken to hospital. he was hit in the vein by shot. oh, my friend, nice to and i with the very 1st her into the basement down there was an explosion. i cried a lot. i'm just curious as to how to magically went down to the basement with my child. we stood here, we even go further inside in danbury fell on us right here. i've come to my apartment, but it's completely destroyed for the wife has mentioned on monday shells had a maternity hospital and done yet. the un has slum the attack as

a violation of international law. women in labor and other patients were forced to evacuate to the basement, where medical staff continued to help them out. so as part of the building caught fire, there was no military presence at all in the medical facility. and this image circulating on social media shows a baby in an intensive care unit next to a window broken from a blast wave during the attack. the child was born prematurely and couldn't be disconnected from the ventilator. so it was impossible to bring the new born into the basement medical personnel remained with the baby who has survived an rti crew, made their way to the hospital to hear firsthand what occurred there. again, yes, good. in montana, there were some babies in the intensive care unit, one of whom, in the rather serious condition, was placed on the ventilator. the rest also needed oxygen supply, so it was impossible to move them into the basement. so the doctor sold the scheme we had developed over the past 8 years and stayed near by in moments of danger,

ready to cover the babies with our own bodies if needed. i am on the roof of the missouri into hospital that was shelled by the ukrainian military. one of the rockets landed right here making a huge hole in this roof. now this top floor is completely destroyed. there were dozens of women here in this missouri into hospital when the shelling began. this delivery room in particular, one woman was here and ready to give her birth. and when i artillery struck, all the windows were immediately blown out. katy vertical dressed there we were standing in a hallway waiting for a blood pressure to be measured. we heard the commotion and ran into the basement to switch around. it started in the morning and lasted until around noon. and then in the evening, stronger shelling began the walls, the windows were shaking. we ran to the basement and spend the night there. women

were giving birth right in the basement. some were undergoing surgery. of course, it was scary like it was they were undergoing a sicilian section in the basement. there was no other option for them. when you moved, you were relying here on the floor and all of us pregnant were crying, had a nervous breakdown, and reserve and love the mothers who were expected to give her birth schanzer regular conditions. i've been forced to flee into the basement from the hercules, cried the continued for more than 2 hours, and fortunately, no one was killed or injured or gotcha. had your i'm sure the location when's calmly because this staff has learned how to behave in such a situation. so they managed to cope is always good as what i want to say is that this is the place where children, when you lives born and mother doesn't give birth to has sounds to send them to war . all the cruelty that we have seen over 80 years, mary opened another citizen humane for the sole reason that the 21st century human

life is not valued. this months are in the hospital, now lies almost in ruins, very close, very near and dear to my heart. and so my camera man as well. this is where his son was born 4 years ago. and my god daughter was born here as well. so it's very painful to see what happened here. this building will now be forced to close to be closed until further notice, and they will evacuated or continue serving a women given birth at a different location because it is just simply too dangerous. here. when moscow slung the western media st. silence on the instant, accusing it of suspiciously ignoring ukrainian attacks in the region. meanwhile, a german t v. new show has even heard a report thought it was the russian military that attacked. and yet a long time, strong hold of pro russian forces. it broadcast images from

a devastated market in the city where a local authority, se ukrainian shelly killed several people to you're listening to which one is marked and they're asked ok. initial stat dot net that i mentioned on by them was ition angle of good to to me it has a file that slogans, i'm getting the mass even bushes. there was a sion i me is to come in it soon in math. gloss that okay, initial president, 1st 3 it invest. yeah, we discuss the situation, the ramifications with george elias, an american investigative journalist working in dump us everything. every fact about this situation is obvious. all the evidence is very obvious. when shells a flyer, you can tell the direction that they're fired from. it's not very difficult. it's not rocket science. it's that they don't want to know. as long as they don't know, they can continue to blame russia, which, you know, again, is obscene,

but that's where we are in this time frame missile attacks. the attacks on, on the hospital, mario full, i'm mucho, you know, why would russia in mucho, why would russia give humana, cherry, and 8 packages, and then kill the people they get to. life just doesn't work that way. it's not to . we military's work while fighting has been raging in the heavily embattled done key city of several nance in the loop gowns republic pro russian forces say the last bridge that connected the knob encircled ukrainian army. there has been destroyed in tromping, those trips ukrainian authorities accused russia the strong, the bridge, and preventing civilians from fleeing the conflict zone with the da bassetti of sever done yet gradually, coming under russian control after weeks of heavy fighting the new york times say's

ukrainian forces have purposely drawn russian troops into urban street fighting despite the risk of increased civilian and military casualties. the daily states ukraine count much russian long range artillery and may have better chances with small arms, a closer proximity. before the russian invasion, the ukrainian military had studied approaches to fighting an enemy with superior on the vehicle and artillery capabilities, including by drawing lessons from urban combat in cities, such as aleppo and the syrian war, he crane put these tactics to use in of, and combat in maryville, where you crane and fight is faced, much larger, russian forces were able to engage the enemy troops for weeks. well look, i mean in theory, if you prepared a city for a, an extensive defense to give you an example, had had the ukrainian state in the,

the as of stall plant under ground and prepared to fences and russia, made the decision to instead of surrounding them in waiting them out to go in underground with infantry and root them out, it could have led to high casualties on the part of russia if, if the ukrainians believe that the, you know that that was their goal and severed and asked to begin to reinforce degree bunkers, interlocking defences. in theory, you, you could trap russia by, you know, having them send enforces and add them, get the russians brown down that, but not the gradient. um, but that's not the case. well, we have right now as ukraine in a, in a, in a, in a freefall, a collapse, desperately throwing in whatever troops they can't hold the line while they try and prepare defences behind the river to, to, to hold off the russian. so what's going on several been ask as an act of

a new extemporaneous desperation. it's not part of any, you know, well thought out strategy drawn from some detailed academic study of urban warfare in syria. ukrainian cause for increased western military assistance are now appearing to be met with more caution in the west. the head of nature has even said ukraine may have to start thinking about whether to trade territory for a peace deal. yes, stores and burg also insisted that the military alliance will stay out of the conflict to avoid a potential escalation is, is false false. that's all to question the way. the question is, what price i willing to pay for peace, how much territory? how much it depends on much sovereignty, how much freedom, how much the accuracy are willing to sacrifice for peace. we all is, see a kind of vertical escalation, war, fight thing, more suffering, have your weapons in ukraine, but escalation beyond ukraine. nato's chief of staff himself was voiced, the idea that ukraine may have to give up territory for peace. this is from the guy

whose job is literal. russo phobia to deny russia at every turn. it's telling, and it isn't just him, the idea that ukraine isn't going to win militarily, despite the billions upon billions of dollars and in nato guns and missiles and launches, and rockets and drones heaped upon ukraine. the idea or admission that they aren't going to win this fight is gaining traction with mr. territory. i'm not going to tell them what they should and shouldn't do well. appears to me that at some point along the lines is going to have to be negotiated. settlement, we must not humiliate russia so that the de, the fight in stops. we can build a way out through diplomatic channels. all of this is in stark contrast to what we heard before from nato leaders. when they thought that the thousands of tons of,

of arms that they're pumping into ukraine, would see keith victorious issue. i'm at the sustain and coordinator support of the national community. larry and facilitated by the united states, as it is a significant reason why ukraine is able to stop rush from taking over the country . as far as our goal is that putin does not win. our goal is for ukraine to be able to defend itself. and to be successful, restore peace in europe, we must continue our support for ukraine. so in a negotiation with russia, it can decide on the nature of its relations, it must come freely and not under the bad barrel of the gun. loosely that was wishful thinking. front lines have turned into a brutal lead grinder. ukrainian officials have admitted to losing almost a 1000 troops a day, which includes those killed and wounded, taken out of action, a 1000 a day taken out of the fight. the question is,

how long can you crane keep this up? and that is always when war starts. it is of course, on both sides. a very aggressive a feeling but to see if the time we have no more than a 100 days in this war. and the feeling in the western societies said that it should come to a cease fire and that they want to stop. this is more than just killing. and so that is why i see as, as of nato secretary general major state. and i think it is spect also by, by some politicians in the west. i think he is not acting on himself here. so it looks like he is spreading your work, which is agreed among that says easy, important. western leaders. ok, another story to bring you today. the european commission remains undecided about

whether to grant membership candidate status to ukraine. disquiet about giving precedence to key of has been growing lighter in georgia and moldova, in particular, who have been on the waitlist for years. there's also hesitancy and some the capitals honestly, starting the membership process takes time. first and foremost, this is a country at war. and the most urgent matter is to stop the war to rebuild ukraine and then consider joining under the right conditions, both for the you and for ukraine. the you have some pretty basic requirements for ship, like being a free market economy. stable democracy and insurance. in the rural law you member states are running around making international appeals for weapon ization to fight a hot conflict on her own soils. if they're calling for a no fly zone over the country that could start world war 3 or full. the neo nazis into their armed forces and pretending that's, you know, totally normal. and julie cool, that's a lot of baggage and all of these things ukranian,

president blinders. lindsey isn't doing while lobbying for you membership now french president emanuel michael has proposed the sort of consolation prize of a membership in some kind of european political community as he's coined it, which he says could include countries like ukraine, that ultimately want to be part of the huge sunday. now that's kind of like telling kids at christmas party that they can come eat with the adults, but then seeing them in the kitchen table off the side, you know, with the paper cups, plastic covering napkins, with a little cartoons on them. and balloons and everything came on board them. michael's minister of european affairs was being blanche and honest when he said that it could realistically take 15 to 20 years for ukraine to join a year. and the 14 prime minister said something pretty similar recently as well. we don't need to open at this moment a negotiation or procedure there will take a lot of years. the great risk is to create false expectations that become bitter disappointment, less legal debates, more practical solutions in georgia,

in moldova, as you've mentioned, have also been waiting very patiently to be invited into the use club or night club . you know, behind the velvet rope. and ga doesn't seem to be too thrilled about all of this recent talk of ukraine cutting in line either. if an open conflict is one of the criteria for obtaining a status, then we don't want that. we demand a well deserved status. georgia is 10 heads ahead in all directions. it's pretty telling that the most enthusiasm for ukraine joining the year was coming from member states that are net recipients of you funds like slovakia and poland for instance, the net contributors of you funding. in other words, the taxpayers pay up front and spending the most on the you, germany, france, italy at the top of that list of countries who are most footing the bill have been much more blunt in their assessment. and those countries leaders have been much more ambivalent as well. and the remarks and actions around the conflict recently

suggesting perhaps anita, temper wishful thinking in ideology with the dose of realism of algeria suspends a key economic treaty with spain. madrid says russia is responsible and those his be guy fell back then that algeria was more and more aligned with russia. so this decision to suspend the treaty didn't surprise me in a while jury a suspended it's friendship on cooperation treaty with spain after 2 decades going as far as the bundle. none gas trade with the european country comes in mid escalating tensions between the urea and morocco. over the dispute, a territory of western sahara, spain bucks were about claim madrid has voted to defend its interests of jury, is one of spain's main supplies of natural gas, thus dependents became more acute sceptre algiers shut off pipeline supplies via near bring morocco last year with prices recently, skyrocketing in mid be conflict in ukraine. yeah, just to expand all,

not the brewing diplomatic. rob between the 2 countries escalated after spain made an abrupt you turn on sided with morocco in the long running conflict over western sahara. the move sent shock waves through the l, jeering government. all stirred up tensions. madrid was previously neutral on the dispute, but now supports moroccan sovereignty over the sparsely populated area on africa, north west coast. well, joining me now on the program is eunice w. a political sociologist on visiting scholar at the university of new england. my pleasure to welcome you onto the program, eunice, spain, switching from neutrality to support for morocco in the dispute over western sahara has been widely criticized domestically on both sides of the political spectrum. why is that? well, it was expected to be criticized domestically because it was a longstanding spanish foreign policy in towards the conflict since basically

$975.00. and all of a sudden the government decides to switch. i understand that part of his coalition, which is the left coalition with what they're most as distance from more than ideological point of view. because the left has always been on the side of self determination on the side of the place are you. but for the right wing, good criticism, but the to put out this is also understandable because that's the domestic politics tactics to weaken the government coalition and try to appear more robust than the king for the next election. so that was expected. so how do you see the ramifications of this? what could be the potential economic cost of spain you turned on the conflict? cut it significantly affect gas supplies from algeria. i do not think the country will go that far because roger needs that money needs to sell it gas,

especially as this at this point in time because of the, the price is on getting higher and higher with this energy crisis around the world . so it's the best time for a jury that means money is which it has a lot of domestic problems and employment use and employment and issues. and we've all seen what happened the last 2 years with the iraq and popular process. so i don't think you would go that far. of course in it's tried to balance, it's a policy towards the region. but i think if it came now to choose economically speaking, a jury is not the main partner economically. it's morocco. the exchange between algeria and spain, it's roughly around $8000000000.00. while with morocco it's, it's double and it's increasing. so i think in a way this government in spain has made its choice. it does not want to have problems with the julia, but given the circumstances of shifting geo politics they,

they chose a different path, shifting geo politics and also trying to stay relevant is that for i think safe is relevant in the conflict because it has historic ties we've got africa and especially with morocco, we're talking about centuries. we're talking also about other enclaves and morocco that us to colonize by spain, which is a den maleah and the this region is quite complex in this relationship. but on with the suddenly training, the issue of migration that is a big problem for you from the southern part of its borders. so all this i think, enters the calculus of this government that trying to shift its position in a conflict that is frankly only lasted too long. it's a frozen conflict. there's no other issues. there's no other solution so far that was deemed credible and possible,

but the one that was suggested by the government and, and frankly speaking, i believe that even though spain has chosen the path, i don't think that the, the, the conflict will be resolved anytime soon. because still within the city council, at the way, what happens with the conflict, you've algeria, morocco at all, over the fate of that disputed region for some time. which country as it started, do you think, or indeed in the long term comes out on top? well, i don't think that any of these 2 countries would come on top because it has been going on for decades now. since the independence and mostly doing the cold war with the other logical alignment angio with the east and camp and morocco, the western camp, and no one really managed to be had demonic in the region. so i think it's high time that both countries rethink this policy of competition and it would be stronger together in the larger community called the r a migrant union. that this has a great potential for all of north africa. and i think the book increase needs to

get closer knots apart and stop this competition. that is not the wind, any good for any countries of the region. a recent report, you know, safe nato countries think that algeria like russia would use it's gas supplies as a means of exerting political pressure. does russia do that? or what algeria, what's your overall view and well, you know, politics is politics will, it's a balance of power. if you have to, to go that far. they probably would, i don't see it happening any time soon as i said earlier, because our jury needs to say that sort of sources. it does not have much else to sell, especially this time being locked into by the spanish government may be to file an international lawsuit against algeria. do you think such a measure if it goes ahead has a chance of succeeding just finally? i'm afraid i'm not sure this will be productive actually would be counterproductive

. i'm not sure that the european union would go that far. i think now it's a short fortunately, the country of the union. they will do that at the end of the day. we'll see how things are going to go forward. but i'm, i do not believe that they would go as far as finding the soup. there will be some sort of agreement that downgrading of relations probably as this already happened. but i don't think it's going to go that far. thanks very much for giving us a sense. i'm indeed a background to the conflict itself. eunice abu you a political sociologist and visiting scholar at the university of new england may thank you, ah, inciting rissa phobia and spreading dis information. the reasons moscow has given for slumping individual sanctions against the range of journalists on british media outlets including the b, b, c. the guardian, new k military commanders and defense lobbyists have also been put on the russian

foreign ministries. blacklist the british journalist included on the lists are deliberately spreading false in one sided information about russia and events in ukraine and the don bass. they have also been involved in inciting, russo phobia, within british society. individuals linked to the british military industrial complex have been participating in decision making about arm supplies, to ukraine, that are used by local executioners and nazi groups to kill civilians and destroy public infrastructure. a number of big names in the u. k. have found themselves on russia sanctions list. we're talking about the editor and chiefs of the guardian, the b, b. c. daily mail. the times the daily telegraph and the independent. and many of these outlets. top journalists have found themselves right alongside their editor and chiefs on this list, some of the most popular mainstream, british media outlets. they are also accompanied by a number of officials and business people in britain that have ties to the ministry

of defense. they're now all 49 people on this list are now barred from entering the russian federation. because moscow says that they are guilty of carrying out anti russian activities and spreading russo phobic sentiment. but it's also important to keep in mind that this is not actually coming out of the blue. the sanctions have come as a response to western sanctions that were actually 1st lodged against a russian government. officials and media personalities, including ortiz, own editor and chief margarita c. manion back in february, so we're now that we see russia's response to this. we're going to have to see what the west next move is. will last her last for no, but more programs get there, started moments. you're all r t. stay close to see what showing wherever you are today across the globe with

or what we've got to do is identify the threats that we have. it's crazy even foundation, let it be an arms race is on, often very dramatic development. only personally and getting to resist. i don't see how that strategy will be successful, very difficult time time to sit down and talk with

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