i mean with artificial intelligence, real. somebody with a robot must protect its own existence with for pregnant women and newborns come under attack. been done yet. local authorities accused ukrainian forces of conducting devastated artillery strikes on the city, including the bombardment of a maternity hospital to hear from people of the medical facility. we heard the commotion and ran into the basement the walls, the windows were shaking. we ran to the basement and spend the night there. women were giving birth to right in the basement. we're relying here on the floor. all of us back. the head of nato is suggest key may help to consider seating territory

to reach a peace deal with russia. those there's a potential risk of the conflict further escalating ukraine confronted cold reality as it knocks on the e used door to turn the block. but some european countries oppose giving fast trucks status to the membership applicant with broadcasting for moscow. this is our t. my name's unit o'neill and 30 minutes of news and views starting on the worst shelling since the conflict began. that's how local officials hop described a series of intense attacks believe to have been conducted by ukrainian forces on the city of been yet. several civilians are reported to have been killed in just 2 hours on monday, around $300.00 rockets, rain done on the city, striking civilian areas, including a market place in the maternity hospital, parts of which caught fire. we got some immediate reaction from locals. yes you up

. could you say oh, i was sitting in an armchair. my husband was in the bathroom walking. we had a blast and window shattered. i looked around and there was blood everywhere. i jumped out into the corridor to see what happened to him, but he was okay. thank god sit, sheila said, what will you what, what are you hit by the shark? as i wished lou lou me up. yes, shots from windows and even from door panels. hit me, the doctors kept me over and removed all the glass from my arms and legs. another guy was taken hospital. he was hit in the vein by shot. oh, my, my friend, nice to and i with the very 1st her and into the basement. down there was an explosion. i cried a lot. i'm just curious as to how to magically went down to the basement with my child. we stood here, we didn't go further inside endeavor. he fell on us right here. i've come to my apartment, but it's completely destroyed for the law. as mentioned on monday, shells here the maternity hospital in done years. the u. n. has slum the attack as

a violation of international law. women in labor and other patients were forced to evacuate to the basement, where medical staff continued to help them out. so as part of the building caught fire, there was no military presence at all in the medical facility. and this image circulating on social media shows a baby in an intensive care unit next to a window broken from a blast wave during the attack. the child was born prematurely and couldn't be disconnected from the ventilator. so it was impossible to bring the new born into the basement medical personnel remained with the baby who has survived an rti crew made their way to the hospital to hear firsthand what occurred there. again, yes. could in montana, there were some babies in the intensive care unit, one of whom, in the rather serious condition, was placed on the ventilator. the rest also needed oxygen supply, so it was impossible to move them into the basement. so the doctor's followed the scheme. we had developed over the past 8 years and stayed near by in moments of

danger, ready to cover the babies with our own bodies if needed. i am on the roof of the missouri into hospital that was shelled by the ukrainian military. one of the rockets landed right here, making a huge hole in this roof. now this top floor is completely destroyed. there were dozens of women here in this missouri into hospital when the shilling began. this delivery room, in particular, one woman was here and ready to give her birth. and then when artillery struck, all the windows were immediately blown out. katy vertical dressed. there. we were standing in a hallway waiting for a blood pressure to be measured. we heard the commotion and ran into the basement with a swift run. it started in the morning and lasted until around noon. and then in the evening, stronger shelling began the walls. the windows were shaking. we ran to the basement

and spend the night there. women were giving birth right in the basement. some were undergoing surgery. of course, it was scary like it was they were undergoing a sicilian section in the basement. there was no other option for them. when you moved, you were relying here on the floor and all of us pregnant were crying. you had a nervous breakdown of reserve and love the mothers who are expected to give her birth. hands are regular conditions. i've been forced to flee into the basement from the hercules, cried the continued for more than 2 hours, and fortunately, no one was killed or injured or gotcha. had your, i'm sure the location when's calmly because the staff has learned how to behave in such a situation. so they managed to cope as always can as what i want to say is that this is the place where children, when you lives, bonner's and mother doesn't give birth to has sounds to send them to war. all the cruelty that we have seen over 80 years,

mary opened another citizen humane for the sole reason that the 21st century human life is not valued. this months are in the hospital now lies almost in ruins. very close, very near and dear to this is where his son was born 4 years ago and my god daughter was born here here as well. so it's very building will now be forced to close to be closed until further notice, and it will evacuated or continue serving a will location because it is just simply too dangerous here will moscow slum the western media. silence on the instant a tax in the region. meanwhile, a german t v. new show has even heard a report that it was the russian military that attacked. and yet a long time straw at broadcast images from a devastated market in the city were local authorities. to you're listening to my friend is a max and they're asked ok ignition start don't nets that i mentioned on by them.

also sion as wardens. i'm getting the most even bushes their physician i me is to come in it soon in math gloss. they okay. initial president, 1st tier 2, but invest. yeah, we discuss the situation, the ramifications with georgia, liason and america don't pass everything every sacked about this situation is obvious. all the evidence is very obvious. when shells a fire, you can tell the direction that they're fired from. it's not very difficult, it's not rocket science. it's that they don't want to know. as long as they don't know, they can continue to blame russia, which, you know, again, is obscene, but that's where we are in this time frame. missile tackle. i'm mucho, you know, why would russia in mucho, why would russia then you deal with people they get to life just doesn't work that

way. it's not to. we military's work or fighting has been raging in the heavily embattled on key city of several do net scan the loo, ganske republic, pro russian forces say the last bridge not connected. the now in circle, ukrainian army, there has been destroyed and dropping those troops. ukrainian authorities accused russia destroying the bridge on preventing civilians from fleeing the conflict zone . kia has also call for the evacuation of the civilians in question planning to move them across the river into ukrainian health territory. russia, however, believes it's a covert plan to extract the soldiers unsafe the evacuation route should head in the opposite direction. the ganske republic officials say they're up to $2500.00 ukranian military personnel currently tramped in several demands of our and mercenaries, rushes defense ministry, also claims extremist. ukrainian. nationalists being killing fellow soldiers to

stop them from sir berkeley will delivery on our way. we have different there's been a rise in number of cases in recent weeks where ukrainian nationalists forces have shot fowl, ukrainian service bits and ukrainian troops decided to surrender as russian forces prepared for an offensive near the settlement of no one. the heil of carrying the domestic republic, the surrendering ukrainian service men were carrying the white flags and making their way towards russian positions when the ukrainian nationalist forces open fire them in the back given city. 2 of them, with the done yet gradually coming under russian control after weeks of heavy fighting, the new york times sais ukrainian forces have purposely drawn rush fighting despite the risk of increased civilian healey states. ukraine cut much russian long range artillery and may have better chances with small arms at closer proximity. before the russian invasion, the ukrainian, the military had studied approaches to fighting an enemy with superior on the vehicle and artillery capabilities. including by drawing lessons from urban combat

in cities, such as aleppo and the syrian war he crane put these tactics to use in of, in combat in the area code where you create and fight, they're able to engage the enemy troops for weeks. well look, i mean in theory, if you prepared a city for an extensive defense to give you an example, had had the ukrainian still plant underground and prepared to fences in russia, made the decision to instead of surrounding them in waiting them out to go. when undergrad, with infantry and root them out, it could have led to high casualties on the part of russia. and believe that the, you know that, that was their goal and silver domestics to begin to reinforce, to create bunkers, interlocking, defend you. you could trap russia by, you know, having them send in forces and had them give the russians brown down that, but not the ukraine in a, in a freefall, a collapse,

desperately throwing in whatever troops they can't hold the line or higher the river. and due to, to old, off the russian. so, you know extemporaneous desperation, it's not part of any, you know, well thought out strategy drawn from some detailed academic study of urban warfare in syria ukrainian calls for increased western military assistance are now appearing us. the head of nato, as even said, ukraine may have to start thinking about whether to trade territory for a peace deal installs in breast. is this possible? that's all to question o s. i willing to pay for peace? how much territory? how much in the pens are much sovereignty? how much freedom, how much the walker see, are willing to sacrifice for peace. we always see a kind of vertical or suffering, heavier weapons in ukraine, but escalation, be on ukraine, himself was voiced the idea that ukraine may have to give up territory for peace. this is from the guy who's job to deny russia at every turn. it's telling and it

isn't just him, the idea that ukraine isn't going to win militarily billions of dollars and in nato guns. and liz's and launch is unreal or admission that they aren't going to win. this fight is gaining traction this. mr. territory, i'm not going to tell them what they should and shouldn't do well appears to me that at some point along all settlement, we must not humiliate russia so that the day that for this is in stark contrast to what we heard before from nato leaders. when they thought that the thousands of tons of, of arm would see keith victorious issue, you know, the sustain music learning facilitated by the united states hazard is a significant reason why ukraine is able to stop rush from to that. our goal is that putin does not win. our goal is for ukraine to be able to defend itself and to be successful, to restore peace in europe,

we must continue our support for ukraine. so in its negotiation with russia, it can decide on the nature of its relations, it must have freely and not, and of that barrel of the gun. mostly, that was wishful thinking. front lines have turned into a brutal lead, grandeur ukrainian officials have admitted to losing almost a 1000 troops a day, which includes those killed and wounded, taken out of action, a 1000 a day taken at the 5. the question is, how long can you quain keep this up? that is always when a more starts. it is, of course, on both sides, a very aggressive a feeling but to see if that time we have no more than a 100 days in this more than the feeling in the western society is said that it should come to a cease fire and that they want to stop,

this is more just killing. and so that is why i see as of nato secretary general makes a statement. and i think it is spect also by, by some politicians in the west. i think he is not acting on himself here. so it looks like he is spreading award, which is agreed among the say, the important western leaders to another story to bring you today. the european commission remains undecided about whether to grant membership candidate status to ukraine disquiet about giving precedence to key it has been growing lighter in georgia on moldova, in particular, who have been on the waitlist for years. there's also hesitancy, and some of the capitals honestly, starting the membership process takes time. first and foremost, this is a country at war. and the most urgent matter is to stop the war to rebuild ukraine

and then consider joining under the right conditions, both for the you and for ukraine. the you have some pretty basic requirements for ship, like being a free market economy. stable democracy and insurance. in the rural law you member states are running around making international appeals for weapons ation to fight a hot conflict on her own soils. there are calling for no fly zone over the country that could start world war 3 or full. the neo nazis into their own forces and pretending that's, you know, totally normal and really cool. that's a lot of baggage and all of these things ukranian, president liners lindsey has been doing while lobbying for you membership. now, french president emanuel michael has proposed the sort of consolation prize of a membership in some kind of a european political community as these point at which he says could include countries like ukraine, that ultimately want to be part of the you some day. now that's kind of like telling his christmas party that they can come eat with the adults, but then seeing them in the kitchen table off the side, you know,

with the paper cups, plastic covering napkins, with a little cartoons on them. and the rooms and everything came on board them. michael's minister of european affairs was being blunt and honest when he said that it could realistically takes 15 to 20 years for ukraine to join the ear. and the 14 prime minister said something pretty similar recently as well. we don't need to open at this moment a negotiation or procedure there will take a loss of years. the great risk is to create false expectations that become bitter disappointment, less legal debates, more practical solutions in georgia, in moldova, as you've mentioned, have also been waiting very patiently to be invited into the use club or night club, you know, behind the belt road and georgia doesn't seem to be too thrilled about all of this recent talk of ukraine cutting in line either. if an open conflict is one of the criteria for obtaining a status, then we don't want that. we demand a well deserved status. georgia is 10 heads ahead in all directions. it's pretty

telling that the most enthusiasm for ukraine joining the year was coming from member states that are new that recipients of you funds like slovakia and poland for instance, the net contributors of you funding. in other words, the taxpayers are paying upfront and spending the most on the you, germany, france, italy, at the top of that list of countries who are most footing the bill had been. and those countries leaders have been much more i'm been wanted to as well. and the remarks and actions around the conflict recently suggesting perhaps a need to temper or wishful thinking, an ideology with a dose of realism. ah, us algeria suspends a key economic treaty with spain, madrid say's russia is responsible. anteaus has b chi. so back then that algeria was more and more aligned with russia. so this decision to suspend the treaty didn't surprise me in the commode. i was curious, suspended its friendship and cooperation treaty with spain after 2 decades. going

as far as the bundle non gas trade with the european country comes in mid escalating tensions between the jury and morocco, over the dispute, a territory of western sahara, spain. bucks for about claim madrid has valid to defend its interest of jury. it is one of spain's main supplies of natural gas. the dependence became more acute, softer algiers shut off pipeline supplies via neighboring morocco, last year with prices recently skyrocketing and mid the conflict in ukraine. yeah, just to expand on, not the brewing diplomatic rob between the 2 countries escalated after spain made an abrupt you turn and cited with morocco in the long running conflict over western so hard. the moves and shock waves throughout the algerian government stirred up tensions madrid was previously neutral on the dispute, but now supports moroccan sovereignty over the sparsely populated area on africa, north west coast. with joining me now on the program is eunice. we were

political sociologist visiting scholar at the university of new england, main pleasure to welcome you onto the program, eunice, spain, switching from neutrality to support for morocco in the dispute. over western sahara has been widely criticized domestically on both sides of the political spectrum. why is that? well, it was expected to be criticized domestically because it was a longstanding spanish foreign policy in towards the conflict since basically 1975. and all of a sudden this sudden government decides to switch. i understand that part of his coalition, which is the left coalition with what they're most mad, the staff from more than ideological point of view. because the left has always been on the side of self determination on the side of the place or you know, but for the right wing, good criticism. but,

but he to point out that it is also understandable because that's the domestic politics tactics to weaken the government coalition and try to appear more royalist than the king for the next election. so that was expected. so how do you see the ramifications of this? what could be the potential economic cost of spain you turned on the conflict? cut it significantly affect gas supplies from algeria. i do not think that on j we go that far because roger needs that money needs to sell it gas, especially as this at this point in time because of the, the prices are getting higher and higher with this energy crisis around the world. so it's the best time for a year. that means money is which it has a lot of domestic problems in employment, use unemployment and issues. we've all seen what happened the last 2 years with the iraq and popular process. so i don't think you would go that far, of course in it's trying to balance, it's

a policy towards the region. but i think if it came now to choose economically speaking on the agenda is not the main partner economically. it's morocco, the exchange between algeria and spain, it's roughly around $8000000000.00, while with more awkward states double and it's increasing. so i think in a way this government in spain has made its choice. it does not want to have problems with a g area, but given the circumstances and shifting geo politics they, they chose a different path, a shifting geo politics. and also trying to stay relevant is that for i think saying it is relevant in the conflict because it has historic ties. we've got to africa and especially with morocco, we're talking about centuries. we're talking also about other enclaves and morocco that us to colonized by spain, which is the end media and the b,

this region is quite complex in this relationship. but on with the suddenly training, the issue of migration that is a big problem for you from the southern part of its borders. so all this i think, enters the calculus of this government that trying to shift its position in a conflict that is frankly only lasted too long. it's a frozen conflict. there's no other issues. there's no other solution so far that was deemed credible and possible, but the one that was suggested by the government and, and frankly speaking, i believe that even though spain has chosen that path, i don't think that the, the, the conflict would be resolved anytime soon. because still within the city council at the un, what happens with the complicate, you've algeria morocco at all, over the fate of that the speed to reach for some time. which country as it stands, do you think are indeed in the long term comes out on top? well, i don't think that any of these 2 countries would come on top because it has been

going on for decades now since the independence and mostly during the cold war with the of the logical alignment that angie with the east and camp and morocco, the western camp and no one really managed to be had demonic in the region. so i think it's high time that both countries rethink this policy of competition and it would be stronger together in the larger community called the r a migrant union. that this has a great potential for all of north africa, and i think the both increased need to get closer knots apart and stop this competition. that is not the wind any good for any countries of the region. a recent report, you know, safe nato countries think that algeria like russia would use its gas supplies as a means of exerting political pressure. does russia do that, or what algeria, what's your overall view? and when, you know, politics is politics, will you, it's

a balance of power if you have to, to go that far. they probably would, i don't see it happening any time soon as i said earlier, because andre needs to say that sort of sources. it does not have much else to sell, especially at this time. but probably if things get worse in the future, they might let so forget also that it's already lost. this position would, would spain because now the 1st, the exporter and supplier with gas to spain in the united states of america storage area. so i don't think this might happen any time soon as spanish share media, such as the alpa newspaper, i've said that one of the options being looked into by the spanish government may be to file an international lawsuit against algeria. do you think such a measure if it goes ahead has a chance of succeeding just finally? i'm afraid i'm not sure this would be productive. that would be counter productive . i'm not sure that the european union would go that far. i think now it's a short for some sort of verity with the country of the union. they will do that at

the end of the day, we'll see how things are going to go forward. but i'm, i do not believe that they would go as far as finding the soup. there will be some sort of agreement that downgrading of relations probably as it's already happened. but i don't think it's going to go that far. thanks very much for giving us a sense. i'm indeed a background to the conflict itself. eunice abu you political sociologist and visiting scholar at the university of new england may ah, inciting, rissa phobia and spreading dis information. the reasons moscow has given for slumping individual sanctions against the range of journalists on british media outlets, including the pbc and the guardian, u. k. military commanders and defense lobbyists have also been put on the russian foreign ministries blackest. the british journalists included on the lists are

deliberately spreading false and one sided information about russia and events and ukraine, and the don bass. they have also been involved in inciting, russo phobia within british society. individuals linked to the british military industrial complex have been participating in decision making about arm supplies, to ukraine, that are used by local executioners and nazi groups to kill civilians and destroy public infrastructure. a number of big names in the u. k. have found themselves on russia's sanctions list. we're talking about the editor and chiefs of the guardian, the b, b. c. daily mail, the times the daily telegraph and the independent. and many of these outlets. top journalists have found themselves right alongside their editor and chiefs on this list. some of the most outlets. they are also accompanied by a number of officials and business people in britain that have ties to the ministry of defense. this list are now barred from entering the russian federation because mos carrying out anti russian activities and spreading russo phobic sentiment. but

this is not actually coming out of the blue. the sanctions have been sanctions that were actually 1st lodged against a russian government officials in manion back in february. so we're now that we see rushes, a response move. it's will lots are lot for no, but more programs get there. start in moments here on our team. stay close to see what showing wherever you are. ah

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