as but i was on my own and didn't talk about it and had a lot of buried shame and guilt. and then i met these guys and i saw, you know, frankly talking arnold talk. it helped me get past that barrier of feeling like i had to hide this from world that opening up has really just taken my, my viewing process and my evolution to a whole other level. really, you've got to find a way to find an affirmation that every discussion, no matter how bad it feels, it is going. you've just got to be able to acknowledge like takes guts to do that. try to help them discover the abilities that they have. this is why we don't want to foster dependency. this is why the intervention can't rely on my christmas. they go from being untrusted hateful, spiteful, distant to begging for more interaction another phone call. another meeting in tell me poor and don't be surprised when they say that's the best conversation i've had in a long time. that is something that's very routine that comes out of people just want to be listened to. and we're trying to teach you how to listen to them. well,

we hold a mirror up so the person can see their humanity reflected back of them through our eyes. but when we treat them as human beings treat them for the suffering person that they are. and they, on the receiving end of that, they get to see that, hey, there is, there is a human insights. and that's the, i think the incredible power of passion. it was very impactful. when someone finally came along with no fear, no judgement. he heard my story did nothing to challenge it, but validated the soon as i started talking about, my mother tears came up. i just spilled my guts about everything she had done to me and letting her brother rate me and my sister denying the rape happen, making the school back around. how many times she she tried to kill me, broken bones, bruises the starvation, the sleep deprivation, the humiliation making me swallow my own. my brothers and sisters watching is

turning my brother against me. keep my sister away from me like i had never had a chance to just unleash all. and i probably went on like an hour of just the stuff she did to me. and then he says, well, i want to ask another question. sorry. have you ever done this to anyone else? it just in that moment it was like i'm just like my mother the me. what really changed me was receiving compassion from the people that i least deserved from when i least deserved. people knew who i was, it was a small town. they knew what i was capable of and what i'd been doing for 8 years.

and they didn't attack me. they didn't break the windows of my store and then argue ideologically with me. they came in and they were empathetic towards me. and they treated me with compassion despite the horrible person that i was at the time the buddy might offer me a job carrying in an empty furniture at cherry hall, new jersey mall for weekend 3 days, 100 bucks a day. and i told him, i said, i think the job is going to tell you free say yes, the guy who owns this company is do and i said, i don't care and i've talked to him, do i want to work for 6 months? i still think it was in the are not in chief, would fit every jewish stereotyping or religious, where alligator. i don't remember entering say where i

broke the marble top table and i was like, i'm so stupid. i'm so sorry. 7 bowers for him. so i so hours a day right for the customer, but in spite of very drove me home. i was waiting for him to fire me. so actually i remember him when not too much on that day. and i just kept my boots on a little seat of his trunk that you couldn't really put him any further than i were . and my knees were hurting so bad because it's trying to hold him up there. so for the whole right, swastikas looks at him every day, like his normal, neo nazi. and i just don't want him to see my boots. i knew him boots and what they did for me. they dropped me off and they were full pay me on my paying monday

and i was told and i just can wait pretend things off my feet. everyone back. i'm not scared. i wanted him. i'm done with it. i'm fluid. if it was 2 parts to getting out of a violin, extreme, the script, the 1st part is disengagement, which is where you leave the social group. you leave the behavior you leave, but you probably still have the ideology. you've been given this nice recipe for how the world works and you take that away from somebody and then what do they have, right? they, they were looking for an analysis and you've taken away their analysis. so, you know, what's left drugs. i mean there all kinds of things that they can just sort of fall into. so you have to be very careful about it. and when you're bringing them out, you will alert them to the risks. this isn't going to be easy. they're going to be people or angry that do this because they've lost them when they've invested the

time and energy and we do debriefing is going to, if you're going to be on the outside, we need to know everything you know about how it works on the inside cuz you're not going back in, so we're, since we're going to burn those help you burn those bridges. so you can't go back and take everything away that was associated with that world. we take away your white laces. we take away your nazi fly because it's too easy to go back into. the next part is d. radicalization where the belief systems in the audiology are removed or you can't go to go get an anti mental from cobra for a couple weeks. may get the rates at the same type of snake, but that's how they do it. we are at the anti vent on the he, you know, i mean, because we have, we had that mental mean are we not as spirit? and we know how to also make it an empty mental and we had the answer. so i do believe the secret sauce is coming from a loving place. you can't hate this person and expect to communicate any of that. you can't judge this person and expect to calmer,

that with empathy before you got out what was what was pushing you to want to get up. i wrote jackson, you know, before and after president, you know, most of my best friends, but it's like, ok in prison. you know, like, you know, you have to be so you tend to be it. and after a while, before you realize that it's scary, is you actually become that image. you are just for training. i had a myself every day for getting myself locked up. so when i looked at it, what made anybody else more special than me? i hate them. where did that shift come from? how come in one day you went from not thinking about that to really say and i need to start making some changes. it was why she wasn't much longer up and it was hard . and every time i was only, you know, i'm saying live on the family because i can't be out there. the brothers didn't like that when they found because they could just let me alone. and

they said they, you know, try to kill me is why now i got to go off the road and you know, i'm going to come to his car breaks, breaks, and i remember slicing south call us up. right. he's like i said, yes, good. you need to is mad right across and then we inside school and open this up. i'm trying to get out just to get on time. if there's one thing when stuck in that life may not be aware that there's a way out. would you say, you know all the have that have ruined you poisons? you're very so man. i don't

a lot of human since really during the summer in 2016, we started to see a significant consistent increase in the number of incidents reported to our office . we saw between 20152016. the number of anti muslim. hey, groups tripled tonight, the every i walking into whether have crime charges will be filed against an alleged white supremacist accused of stabbing to good samaritans to death on a commuter train. in portland, the guy who did that was someone who had been in the fringes of the all right movement. and he's up on erica lee, the country. if you are ready to pay for that, we hear that all the time go back to where you came from. and you just amped up that rhetoric that he wants to take his country back. and so that's,

that's the screen that runs through that. we're not going to let people come into our factory. troy. i saw this guy running for president doing the exact same thing and i couldn't believe that i was hearing it, but i knew that it would work. and that was the frightening thing because i've seen it work on a klan rally and stone mountain georgia. i saw that kind of rhetoric where people are yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. what do we do about it? their culture. i don't want to know about their culture. if you want your body, you could just go back to mexico. what the bucket of gasoline was kicked over and lit up. all those little sparks that already existed into a large forest buyer. part of donald trump's huge appeal was that although he does not think in terms of race, the way i do, he at least thinks in terms of nation,

he recognized that the united states is a nation with a particular people. and that not everybody belongs here. this is a great relief to millions of people who have seen their nation transformed in the name of diversity diversity that always comes at the expense of white people. he spoke to some of the things that, that angry white male wants to hear. we're going to put a wall on the order. we're going to make the mexicans pay forward. we're going to bring manufacturing jobs backs as a kind of populous message. white males combined with racism that was found to be very attractive and everyone's promises like that idea. well, there's thousands, tens of thousands, hundreds of thousands of them that have an intellectual curiosity and understanding of national socialism. that skin had ever had. there was a price paid if you were a public with your being a tree or, and it didn't serve you well. and your career or your friends in neighborhood

really weren't excited to hang out with your kids. might be embarrassed of you. your parents would be really upsetting you and people learned that those attitudes were not going to be beneficial to their life. i think what we're concerned about now is that blanket and that we put over it is being pulled back. that it's going to be really hard to put that back where it was. ah, a wrong one. i'll just don't move any new world. yes, to feed out disdain because of the attitude and engagement, it was the trail. when so many find themselves worlds apart, we choose to look for common ground.

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we will ban in the european union. the kremlin. ca, yep, machine the state on russia for date and split our t spoke neck. even our video agency, roughly all band on youtube with mm ah, there was a state of emergency in florida. it's a white nationalist, was about to take stage in the 3 hour day. yeah, we're here florida. is grayson for potential violence today of a speech by white national leader, richard spencer, who's approved yesterday gathering out. so i decided with my son yesterday,

but i will say that back to you all right. and read the notion that they really were that way to find a stage spencer trying to speak to the noise for the chip with

that stuff. so you know, he shared with his guy grad going to get killed that here. so my, i got, i got this guy come and people who say, oh love we hate the hey hey hey, we're pretty slow please. same people had a message with pure hate when i post randy,

you know, i came home. i don't want to talk to you, you know, understand you. he will cool. no problem the whole time. we couldn't really have a discussion because the camera, you know, you people pushy, i don't get down with what was it was to find more really intimate said neil, i don't know if i'm talking to you like really? and i guess our intimate setting was force known as we were both keep out. so we encountered some police officers, they were treating randy how they would treat me on a regular day. you know, just are for what they perceived by his, our parents. and in the end of one arrest in yeah, i right, this made you got beat on spin. are usually the sped on the back. is it usually amount was, what is he doing wrong? why everyone sit on a ground, do this type of stuff. so we actually started walking and talking and we found out we have things in common. you know, i some, his views about certain bay. it was certain style. i'm girl on both. yeah. he was

telling me he got involved with his teenage years in the area nation and asked him how a lot of my friends and different people get involved and a blow to cripps in different games they join. that's what's around you. so whatever is around you and your friends may be involved with whatever happens you're, my state is going to be on that. so for me, i just saw the similarities of what my culture would deal with just in a little different way. there's no, there's nothing new up on it. a son. his was just a different route. they angry white man, angry by 2 different people. the angry black man is angry because he has no home has no vision. yeah, no way to provide a reweigh people, especially in a low income cause they have so many mental enrollment that you can just turn on the tv and see success. i mean, now i would be proud to have down at the bottom with black people when they got a reason to be that you know, i'm white. what am i know? it is a deep seated anger and and you know, you know, no one your doctor,

the doctor any you know, better way to focus on it or that these people have a different color or white man because he's angry cuz he doesn't really understand what question and know that he doesn't even say i got the way out for the blessed waiting to hear the testers back. i mean, everybody that white in america has benefited. give me answer that color are supposed to miss you. busy right now, giving me or help me. i got somebody to understand that just massive what my culture as a whole and look at differently just because of my individual encounter. we talk every week, man, 23 times

a week. that is due to time phone calls, you know, hours, phone, goldhill. we've hours me you think about what you've done just in the last month. the turn around the correction, the what you've abandoned and what you would opted it's most people can't even lose 10 pounds. they want to lose much less make an entire mental, emotional lifestyle change humanize town, which allows you to humanize your like that. that's not rocket science, but yeah, it's, it's evading. the majority of the country right now, there's me like i could, i could never look at anybody and eric, eric brotherhood, a nation. anybody got a lot of on the same lack of i got free and that that was part of his narrative and changes his narrative. not that we agree with anything that comes out of the far right. is that we don't ever forget that there are people inside of us people,

you know that there's a human being inside of this person, right. and if we just choose not to forget that you don't really see x, not seeing that demand, you know, have a lot of dialogue as we do. but i mean, i can consider him a friend. i was glad that i could have that effect on randy to open his eyes up to see then you know something a c. whatever may have been introduced to him or told him was proven to be a last day in madison. but i think we often think about this and terms of the ways in which they are failing us. they are

a bad man. they are floating away from us. they are deviant. and i think we need to ask the other question. also, we need to ask the question and how we are failing them. what kind of ways can we keep them in the center? and part of my answer to that, we have to find ways to keep them validated as men. it's really amazing. when people feel more whole quickly and easily in the ideology of hey, falls away. and if you can reconnect them to the people that they thought they hated. it helps build that. i'm them these that they realize that they're actually a part of the solution rather than contributing to the problem the 1st time i've ever felt accepted any shape or form from anybody is actually with my wife after have another p 5 mad just recently like i feel it shows the greatest

i want everybody to know the human being here instead of like a mission touches. but i have person to be able to have the different cultures and the different people here. it's really, it's good to be able to cause it to be able to interact because it teaches me that, you know, we're all in this together. this is a part of our solution. farmers are, are evolving into a powerful force and justice quality, love, peace, compassion. we are operating as human beings from one of 2 places, fear or love. i mean get to choose which one that is or will happen in the days following happened. it was such a turn out and seemed that support for countering that narrative of white supremacy

. it really flooded me with hope. i am proud that i can be a voice against what i used stamps or i feel like i have i have something to bring to the team and run to bigger and better things. while i'm still mindful of what i owe to society, but no one's better served by my realtor shane at this point, including me me . i fired a casino block at this time. one suspects wrong about molly and you need to die where you go communicate with him and he's got an

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yeah. what video, luckily was before he boise cool here scott, your party grow your favorite them last time. i didn't think my wife would give it a gym and i got it and you should be in a when i was showing wrong when i was just a new world. yes. to see how this thing becomes the advocate and engagement. it was the trail. when so many find themselves worlds apart, we choose to look so common ground.

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