gall, nobody's says to submit, i alluded what i see. the news genie bosses don't room you motivation says do you do gumbo sub ah, the contracts with hundreds of millions of dollars are already signed on the opening day of the st. petersburg international economic forum. much more to come as the events which sees thousands of if he's gather and says it's 2nd day. this was you premiums forces last bastion loss, holding ground just outside of several, the nets. and well, just outside of the industrial zone, pezora plant odd c, visits positions used by ukrainian forces before they retreated into chemical ponds . in 70, done. yet by moscow says the humanitarian cease. fire was violated by kia and ukraine's armed forces. threatened to shell rushes, coach straits bridge, and thus,

despite the president zalinski claim in there would be no such attack on russian territory with come into your life from our headquarters. here in moscow, you're watching the international is just going to 11 am here in the russian cups on thursday morning. my name is peter scott and welcome to the program. we start off with the latest from ukraine. nate civilians have died in ukrainian rockets attacks on the new guns republic. thus, according to local officials, most of the casualties were in the city of 2nd of those fighting could send us an official from ukraine's ruling party admits to us media. the 1000 ukrainian soldiers are either being killed or wounded every day in the dom bus. meanwhile, russia has accused of violating these fire by disrupting a humanitarian cargo in the east of the republic. it was opened on wednesday to evacuate civilians sheltering in bunkers beneath the other chemical plants in the embattled city of several done yet reclaims ukrainian artillery shells residential

areas of the city. shortly after the car doors were opened. on these eager don reports an industrial area, the size of a small city ukrainian troops sheltering in its catacombs. mingling among civilians who aren't allowed to leave. if you're getting the as of style flashbacks, you're totally right. this is the resort plant in several. the nest where recent history is repeating itself, ah, up to a 1000 civilians are estimated to be trapped at the assault chemical plant. russia has made an attempt at a humanitarian sees far, but ukrainian artillery had other plans. this was the ukrainians forces last

bastion last holding ground just outside of several the nets. and well, just outside of the industrial zone of the resort plan, which is by the way, just about a kilometer away from here. this is from where they fled over. they're joining our, the regimen and joining civilians who are being effectively held hostage there. the sci fi was botched as give forces shelled what was supposed to be a humanitarian corridor. also hitting it with tank grounds, only one elderly man in a come whatever may attempt eventually managed to get out. the bloody standoff around the plant continues as key of refuses to accept that yet a another massive surrender. what's troops is looming over the horizon. i'm a get done of r c. i know the news a contracts worth over 24000000000 roubles or more than 400. $20000000.00 was one of the main. the many signed at the opening day of the st. petersburg international

economic forum, which is one of the world's leading economic events and is now engine, is 2nd day in russia's northern capital, ilia pitcher, and can now joins me alive from the foreign with russian. a foreign ministry spokesman murray as a carver. peter, hi again. well, the day to at the st. petersburg, international economic form is in full swing. i can feel the energy, i can feel the smell of big business. but let's step aside from economic issues for a bit and talk to the spokeswoman of the russian foreign ministry. murray of the car, but he has dropped over again. nobody be getting you to afternoon st. peter's just yesterday attended he or griffin and i have to be frank law was one of the main highlights of yesterday with alex is up with him is and you did him in talk to

western internally as it was this whole occasion. even both of them could you say honestly have it become more difficult to talk to them now? it's the same when applying to the order. if you are both and to have a table position, you know, nothing can change. this new, our official position is tell you, but it's unchanged. it's based on the consistency of the policy will pursue money and and non affected by the present moment. muso, locally not walk. it is largely based on facts, complete reality, or the one we have a ton. so the more for the got the event of the development we see. and the think that wasn't journalists my find

difficult, my yes of that are not important to us. so why i don't know what i know, what is, what is my task? i know where i stand. know what is my the question. so it's very simple for me to voice my opinion. of course, the intensity of work has gone up. there are lots of fake news that the problem of the big problem, the problem for the western neo liberal community spectrum salvage from the farm. because there's so much information so many lies the they are losing the audience. 40 malisha, making the audience. what do you turn away from them that they destroy? my monthly more were me not trust, reliability for new media, for western information sources, that's what they are doing. they distorting reality, distorting facts, and they are presenting these facts in

a distorted and absurd light. so people will not leave them, they will refuse to probably next up to this news. they won't treat them before, but i with seriousness. lot of being said motorcycle news about the importance of truth and it was the western community that declared is that war with said there was more of them on the way up, but it was, i don't want to play anyone words. but i would like to ask you, when the western journalists come here, great things, we heard that yesterday as well, all the ways. or it's russia or accusation about violating international law store . and so one has the feeling like b one to get an admission out of you. and can you be a frank? russian officials can be admitted any mistakes during the special ed ration or for my navy. plumber says, bush, you know,

right from the city of john lis has to come to a press conference to briefing pleasant when we see minute before the spoke of paid class changed the west mainstream come with proclamations instead of questions. so the we, the word there questions is that they are a declarations included in the questions that are bold keep up via it. after getting my response, yet will they pretend you haven't answered the question. gotten them on that they're doing this on your purpose in order to shy it. after all my men that are in order to you that via the flu, to persuade the audience, the speaker has an answer the questions and also to play on the difference of answers. the good. now that i said, because i do have to believe me, they want to have a page the difference and to little would you show the contradictions. so we know this very well, that'll know bravo as to accusations of violating international law. and if we're

prepared to meet 2, haven't made any mistakes, you know, and then we're like, our attitude or it's reality is very critical. we have to move to that, and eliza steps made by our partners. there's a new ins here. and i said this to the american journalist yesterday, the system of international law ana system is up on m. c means law is order is universe. so will, for every one, if someone thinks his above law that he, this me boss, taste within the system, the system sees is to function. you really are that for you. and this person who deems himself vehement to be above the law needs to not stand here that will i get out of the system he bought. otherwise, when nobody, if looking, if they remain in sight within the system, they need to comply with the laws that they got here a little in american politicians, american public official for join las, criticized russia. yeah. but in way or half of that,

and i will curl accusations at rush of upper val layton. international law. i have a question. it stays there as a country is representative. so this country will bomb. yeah. have they will, it'll come to light with international law, not with and i will go further with you to what extent they are in is not at all interested in preserving this international i well i go system and what have they made it to? i don't know, probably if they have made a lie to destroy the system and stuff, no country is ideal, it's a constant. gotten them without. and what would it strange to be saying this? each country has the right to its own musician has been sold to the point and we look why respect the right of other countries to the rhone position, national interest and policies. but in any case, we are denied this american. they deny us the right to have our own, if the policy,

domestic and international, not on the problem, not, we don't have the right to have you in the premier to do what we deem lives if last, adequate it. so with his am i talking about this occasion? the don bassinger yasenya came a good. okay. possibly like telling us that there was no referendum held and on bess. why not? there was a referendum but it was not recognized it in the book. did you and we held you referendum in crimea, but they keep telling us it was illegal. so where's this thing in that order? where is this constant? where is this universe a rule that needs to be applied to all peoples and all countries? we need to understand what is the paradigm, what we're leaving in myself. we need to understand the rules, and i think it's high time yet. you've got by to stop nancy, we're trying to design justify our actions and not he will come up. when will you know, when you're pretty busy, get the newly bit i ru, oh, we need to you,

fabulous. this is one of her you, number a to us. why, there are any illiberal or say him some to hold it responsible because it has to do well to the edge of the precipice they have supplied what country is using these weapons again, they were faces in i was, someone is not a product that they're doing everything they can to destroy the present day system of international law. but and i would like to ask you, which is more painful for it's a country secure atlantic blog, congress sanctions or boomer inc effect from their own sanctions. so yeah, i'm not sure what which one is more painful? sure, but i see i'm a sport. we haven't provided answers to all the questions. my teach not, but our human response or the matching which we are trying to take into

consideration the consequences for russia. it's not, it is not a, but if i know shooting in response, it's a pragmatic analysis that takes into consideration our interest might what day who are deploying these sanctions. they need to realize what they are going to, to achieve. it's not moving from point a to point b. think that washington on analyzing we possible consequences for the european unit and they are ok with them in units. that's fine. it's in the interests of the united states. they don't need a rival, so they don't need much by the next not. well, got it. but i see rival say in the north west of this house. so we needed to tech russia and enjoy the rico she said. but you know,

it's wrong. you want to be the heating themselves is a lack and it was a mistake made by ideologists of the sanctions policy in washington. so you're saying you're a, they don't understand this when you mild them, you don't make it up one i is one. there's people who are realised, stays you, dont are not giving the floor in the day. yes. not are outcasts or would you guy live with? he won't listen to them with us. they are called the one your followers of the crown and supporters of the rambling regime. it's a canceled culture and those who are the wizard for i knew we had problem with her or that i would the but it was the not. and those hall li in these countries, they were to washington and political but that when you might, we had a have to on of the come to terms with interpretation of the word patriotism. what does this term mean of summer? it's not love for my knee. and it's not bargaining glam as obama. ah,

and i get the impression of these people within glover. i want money. first of all that it is the most important thing for them after they quit. they in prime ministers, minister of foreign affairs, in defense and presidents with not only bon, they want to continue leaving a good life in international foundations. as my chat and with fulton b. let me give you an example. tell him back, for example, you probably secretary jane of nate who has had to deal with your atlantic security, everything to him with the new york to destroy this illusionary schematic. will a minute the blue dies shook with a while on a cynthia stem. that to preserve some time, some kind of balance of strategic security in the world. no one ever. oh gee,

i bet history never had to destroy it. and he has to order his got approval to see if the posters at the bank was not. so you're not convinced that they will receive a financial compensation for his work for efforts. she is now getting effort that was gotten the interest. we understand what countries but not everyone get such positive bonuses and he did come, but i'm lot and there are also negative things, restrictions here, little compromising material. fred curled politicians, example rushes and foreign minister. so good luck. ralph said more than once we took up. i started and we have information that i'm able to say users set off for

you on the top european publications and locations and other regions of the receive threads, address them, their families and their neighbors. and you're seeing if they don't support the russian decision like a bed, just swimming a little bit more on the pressing issues. i don't want to call names, bird remembering that groupings. how is it possible? that's an end raiders, if i'm not mistaken, they can practically introduce you here in britain. so you have some kind of pull their cation like i said, and we can record any previous abroad that are perfectly aware about the situation r t has found itself in. but i think that's the question of freedom of expression a word. you can watch cancer with someone, but you have any food i took over. some new york you would want to speak is don't want to talk to you. so they constantly, you know,

you as a media outlets go, i want to use financial expert and russia to different we are open for domestic russian media. we are open to for more media. we have never used in rusher or greece. we're sure elements, so probably more to give only use and you know that the other thing i can do that says la board now why not? you know, it's very easy to credit ation. my us online, you can do it online, but there is a sanction lee complex to what we are introduced response measures of wednesday. we'll sanctions against russian media. when i created patient these us of course we

have to respond to what we just recently. unfortunately, i deployed these, this is lisa measure was needed. british journalists, i'm really they were in this position with me, like sparse measures, were used against probably diesel enough with the thumb and when russian jordan leaves abroad on test, he's us after a long we have to launch backup number. we did that, we will introduce the whole package of measures which and the american john with didn't like this norse nationally. but it's not our choice of any secret. it was not a secret in your book by, as i was strong because the pressure exerted by washington on other account trees. if you have a minute trying to stop from the normal premium, interacting with russia, there are

a lot of examples from in did to latin american countries shy. why do you back? feel it when you talk to your counterpart and colleagues, maybe they are trying to justify their actions and how much called a colleague in particular population, your atomic from diplomatic or other countries. so these countries that i just knew, would you tell me the understand that the country suffers from response to measures against diplomats nomic measures me as much as because it's telling me that they offering even with response measures suffering from the policies, pursued government and washington policies locking payments off for the board payment locking for that was mom a producer con. so the good do russia lose that you can manufacture what we need

from my so by them or so on and so forth. say understand what are the consequences and whether they express their opinion and whether the person wants to assert his principles. i good yellow american movie, that media devils out, where trader. and there is the scene when the young people are gathered to registering and the child drink to you and your jobs have got them out by calling go the rest, the glasses for the job to play the ram and say the job they have to pay it pays the rent your there's a bomb, they please do. that's the most important principle because losing a job at the omnia that losing him by get a job with the package of the social benefit. i think all the means coming in to your credit card or whole medical insurance and so

on. so losing all of this mean is a catastrophe, as a disaster, complete disaster for western. why did i know that people fixed my voice, but if there is no such thing as i sleep will dictate, every person is free, but yet its own sign it is with without all these, he won't be an outcast cut all paws way. wishy i, his life will not be destroyed if for his left without a job and he has to gather all his skins and vacated his office up like frost up with all. then i won't be able to pay a bill for you on there. i would need a good job of that position. they were all lot of late tree words describe in this situation wasn't going to have the money in these people. unfortunately victims of this modem was ms. brown high morals. and truthfully,

i bought the men not locked up. he said, he said, i'm the remedy. the situation cannot improve them by you. because this people can think of high morals, they need a food to put on the tables, their families, they need money to pay for their rent. if this is their mom. this is a very loud, ryan is a tough system. liberal system is very tough because once you're i do that that's actually lose them. i'd say the system once you become a loser once you have made a mistake. but yes or no, but i wanted your victim of circumstances that you can't get back on board to change. the system tries to get rid of you. i mean are you wanting to do soc coverage? i think part of passion discussing the liberalism,

there were rushing businessmen among participants also towards various professions. when it's done in the pilot. not that we're not just one of the native members really, but i think people become victims of this now liberal but we're in prison. because the system need proof of this fall through the scores of it in the most value, you know that people are trying to lead time a large way destroyed because it leaves us with believing and liberal values. and in no time everything was destroyed. shanker and younger branson and number needed other participants and you can share their own stories or not,

or back and do stuff with these and not be real. translate other people's opinions . they talked about their own lives, about their own circumstances, without taking comforts libya and tie russian sentiments more. so what can you do about everyday little bit unfair russian sentiment? is there any way you can help russians who would progress? of course we're doing a lot. i was speakers, you talked about this, but we're going to get out every one of them. i will show you the engine, russian leaders and the agencies dealing with this put their in their contribution to saving they live as your shameka started. this was just tardy upon she said, if it were not for russia, for the president, minister of foreign averse and russian women, not for rushing ambassadors, he would have never made it to russia. he would die,

he would draw in an american prison pension and when no legal grounds for detaining him, it was a separate aided story of b. i a russian pilot who just did his job and they said he planned to put 72. that's what a max model, something across the board, everything was, was do i do find that out? i see circumstances take so and he said that it was from the thanks to russia to one paul or not. and a friend that he was that it was possible for him to get back to russia and leave his confinement to like negotiating said the same thing. it

was very important that he will show side. we have the lawyers, financial organizations, 20 years working together to say, states people in the public assistance is very important. pallana french people, problem rush and seed isn't leaving you the night. stay putting in my warm wish she needs and she didn't want it to be published to be just be popped to go public some way. she hoped that american democracy would be her chance to survive because she believes american democracy. is it true democracy? that is, that they wanted to prove she was innocent and visual roof to the system that she will not. you know, it's not and will bit that i see what all described is work. it was impossible.

and there was a very real sentence looming for her. and remember the history was maria boot, you know, last and now which is closely related to your work of your channel of our t, v o, you know, she is a person who didn't mean to do anything on legal home or your school. she never did . sounds good mushing and then your mac up, but the american legal machine found some compromise and material grief at the email, but it was in the newsletter. i'm sure she sent calling people to join the efforts in order to prove russian american relations number, which was evil. society and that's an example where i would thank you very much. we're always glad to see you more with us, so we will be thank you. thank you so much for having me. of course,

we'll continue to bring you any key updates from the st. petersburg economic forum as it progresses me. oh, has openly threatened to attack russia's crimean bridge saying that the choice of targets is completely understandable. that's something that completely contradicts claims when ukrainian president keith is not going to attack russian territory. the courage street bridge is target number one for the ukranian armed forces. this is no secret of their military or our military, or their civilians or ours. when you have fired at russian territories across the border, which, hulu, me now, no, we are not interested in selling civilities. we are not terrorists who shall civilian neighborhoods unique. what about the coach straits bridge, which the ukranian general was referring to,

is also known as the crimea bridge. it was built up to crimea as reunification with russia back in 2014. the 19 columbus along construction is the main artery between the russian mainland on the peninsula is also the longest bridge in the country as well as in europe. we discussed the general's comments with former c. i a analyst, john kieriyaki, who believes that they are part of an ongoing ward words. one of the reasons, at least why this ukrainian general made the comment about the bridge publicly, was for propaganda value to, to worry russian troops in the area to make them think that this terrible attack is going to come. i think the lensky is telling the ukrainian people what he thinks they want to hear. i don't think that his, his messaging is necessarily meant for the russians. it's meant for the ukrainians . and if it is going to make the ukrainians feel better for him to say that he wouldn't attack russian territory because it would be bad for.