tv Cross Talk RT June 20, 2022 9:30pm-10:01pm EDT
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is very negative characterization of what the west is be doing, which is eventually exploiting the rest of the world. the speech going back to the days when, when market linen is we're in georgia, soviet is the thing that this policy is that the west of the few essentially inflationary policies, since cove it has been destroying the rest of the world. i mean, they be sucking, it goes from the rest of the world, the valuing current state, and then re great hardship everywhere else. and that essentially the rest of it was going to stop looking toward russia for lease to get out of the economic mess with this. great. so it was very much drawing the lines of, you know, the next couple of generations. i think the russian in the west gym following up with george. right. and said here was really interesting is that there was no
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overture where there wasn't, you know, i listed complaints and, but there was none of that. there was not reaching out. and i think this is what you know, i agree with george when there's such a continuity from 2007 all the way here because we're done, we're moving on and there's not much you can do about the ma, your thoughts. well, i agree. we've got a condo with the west, but he explained that it was not only in the ship, it was the west. why a change or very strange action that actually brought the world to reach. and even when we talked about the company with the 1st you said that there will be no, you are not going to isolate, also want to cooperate with those companies that haven't been to go against.
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oh, you know, the, the main street, you know, in the united states and in the european union. and also within said that these kind of colonialism is more sophisticated. it's not what the marxist know denounced in the end of the 19th century. it's not about us being blown black, so you know where, you know, these people talk about the colonization. they know they receive a call about that. it doesn't make them and they go on, you know, i mean, the problem with ultra liberal is, is that it is so radical. and so if you order that it kills actually the last, the, the old culture without regions then you well. and also it was interesting that would you basically describe, you know, he gave a very good example how the west muskogee wait, i'm in the west will sure that the sanctions will crush russia. why?
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because the western propaganda has been seen for 30 years. the brush only produces flow and guess this is a more about the calling it, you know, it's already and it will stop by and there guess that it and it was all lies and the, and demonstrated it with fingers. and meanwhile, the united states spoke to be an exporter of food. this is what would you say? i don't know, i haven't read it in people's to the last 5 years. maybe it was somewhere. you know, suddenly the wall depends on russia and ukraine, full grain, you know, it no longer depends on the united states or even canada. you know. and of course, the sanctions which are russia is facial right now, much bigger than the sanctions imposed on the soviet union. so russia is more, is the live if i could jump in here and go to george. i mean,
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that's interesting with d. m a said here with the, the stringent regime of sanctions instead of lamenting it, it's actually an opening an opportunity. i mean, you're actually the west is actually helping russia make strategic decisions moving forward because so many things have been taken off the table. so, you know why the french about it, why worry about it? there's a new paradigm and you have to deal with it in the west and swimming, drowned in its own cesspool for all russia cares. go ahead. and he said that, and then you went even beyond that, he said that we need to move beyond in port substitution. i mean, we actually have to be technologically innovative. again, he or pocket back to soviet science when the. 2 russians were actually making all sorts of new technological innovations that missed our programs and nuclear
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weapons and the thing. so it is very much looking forward to an era in which such a rational no longer even be attempting to be like the west make goods like with the the west knows how to make this list. since you go back and we must learn to do those things, are that we're going to bother doing any of that anymore. so i feel we're just not looking for to the west in any way. it was very much a kind of a presentation of the west really. hm. miscalculated as the said they. so they said, he said this is a group. i mean they're, you know, used to work with a street and one of the destroyers they fail. and what happens when you launch a war and you, well, you're going to pay the price of,
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i think that's it. very much warning the west, but, you know, when we're moving elsewhere and we're going to start creating a new international economic system. and then he laid out the framework of this new international economic system. you know, you met with, i think on the same day as speech or minister law. i spoke, he gave 3 media interviews in one of them. the question or the question was, well, in the eyes of the west lock with i don't care about the eyes of the west. we're done. we don't care. see, this is what i think is the significant change is that, that this, this time or dialogue and our partners and all of that is over. and it just really does white noise for the russians right now because they believe in actions and not in words. and not in the opinions of their whole betters because they're not. go ahead. well, i think it's indeed interesting because the dollar was asking you was asking
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about the all the western merchant, i guess a local who was caught in the list all busy a wanted to crash along in the eyes of the west. these people and her basically said, i don't care about the i care about international law. these people came to the country. they didn't know whose language the dentist was 46, they didn't know. and they helped a military own group to terrorize, you know, a cd with a predominant russian speaking lation and they basically destroy organize . so the fax off was almost grew but he said, which is not well, he tries to be polite, but in this case,
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i think i want to show that, you know, this is exactly what i like, you know, the western move instead of international law. basically it wouldn't, i think it is in his speech that we care about a lot. we don't care about the rules based on if these rules are, are very limited countries and a very good group of people in the scots. but you're exactly right. it is exactly right of the company with the west, and i wouldn't say that is rationalistic. you know, that the russian minister with auction who spoke at this conference, he basically said, ok, you know, these corporate with the west doesn't need that mobilization. so, no, there will be other ways each because of course, russia, which now has a market of $220000000.00 people, you know, russia,
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it's neighbors. it's not enough. you know, we're not going to create a mark and big enough to develop you plane. you credit you innovative space so we need to, we need to pull together with china with, with, with the me to it. well, good to everyone. basically. i think this was the 1st session for where the west was, what i'm going to georgia, i was, i was there, i was there. i would have foreigners were definitely in the minority. it's only george mcgee, before we go to the breaker, you touched upon it here. i think it's really interesting is that this was also an overture to the world. it wasn't a message to the west, because russia stood up to nato and nato was losing nature was lost in its endeavour, in ukraine. that's sending a very powerful message, is that, yes, you can stand up to these people and you can when george. absolutely,
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and i think this is a very well because i was the west, right to do was to break russia economically. obviously to break question militarily as well, but also to isolate. and it was, if you read the west, the media, let me know russia iceland, iceland, but of course are you looking to? well, it's a west, it's isolated, and it is a actually a standing died middle west, how much it is failed to bring the rest of the world on board. a latin america, asia, africa, is pretty much everybody other than, than the nato gang in europe, or japan, australia, which is all part of the same group of countries. and that's it. you have failed completely to bring anyone else on board. and so that's why, you know, he's presenting it well, there really isn't. new world of the growing up in africa is a growing market. latin america's growing market asia growing market that's in the
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west on living is living. you know, when it's really like the center it, the west is not one of the back bro. yeah, it's right. i gentlemen, i'm going to jump in here. we're going to go to a short break. and after that short break will continue. and especially, i'm some real estate ah ah, look forward to talking to you all. that technology should work for people. a robot must obey the orders given by human beings except where such order that conflict with the 1st law show your identification. we should be very careful about artificial intelligence at that point obviously is too great truck rather than a various shop with artificial intelligence, real summoning with
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ah, i asked go back to d ma here in, in moscow. a part of the speech that putin gave are in st. petersburg. obviously dealt with ukraine in put, made it very clear that rushes are going to stay the course. it's not, it's going to continue with special milton special military operation. and i'm reading between the lines brush will determine what, what victory is when it is um, and it doesn't need any kind of a interlocutor from the west to end this conflict here. that's it. definitely strong message here. but at the same time we had a microphone. um we had schultz, we have druggie. i think the remaining president also gives it a give. and one has to wonder what kind of message they're sending because i don't know, i will ask both of you and tell me what you think it was all about. you know,
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cam kennedy candidate i'm offering candidacy into the e u. m, which is farcical on its face. but we live in farcical times. i have to wonder the european leaders say, yeah, we'll give you the option to get in, but not all of it. okay, get you got to resolve your problems with russia. ok. i think my opinion, they were emissaries from washington. d mach ahead. well indeed, i think the hope that france and germany could be intermediate between us and your brain. i think that whole kind of been killed long ago. some of our media did not acknowledge it. there was a very simple treat that the french and the drugs use. they said, oh, we need dialogue with whatever that meets, you know? so 8 years this was, you know, the maximum that they would use all we need dial in really good. you're in all
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these years. i'll go america. all are, you know, sark, was he, oh, you know, microphone. they were all on the side. let's face it. they went to the front like, you know, they provided us. they provide it politico and diplomatic support. they are not usual, you know, and they have never been since the beginning of it. my point is here is i agree with you completely. but now it seems to me that there are those in washington the realize something, the george 9 you've talked about for months. but this was a miscalculation so instead of having the chrome and shelters and intermediary they're in there, they're kind of in bastards. now they're not, they're not independent actors. what they are is conveying a message because the body mistake, you know, that we're going to take the blame for this. ok, continue, go ahead. would be, it could be a, want to receive it with. i'm
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a very problematic regime and very programmatic person. i mean a zelinski in south just one day before his arrival. let me quote, would you have to set of all channels? she and he is gonna have to take the deceased the right decision. they have to choose between democratic, who great as a relation to russia. i mean, will the, you, you know, it all these, did you go so you, great to, to lecture, you know, the child, some of the country was elected by 18000000 people. was that he has to make a decision. well, this is the problem with the last is thinking his thinking is hierarchical. it's actually very so, you know, yes, he thinks that if i have on my side, the big boss draw by that i can be very rude to everyone on the, you know, and this is the same mistake you made with crop in 2018. i guess, you know,
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when there was this phone conversation in zillion prompts and then ask you thought that because trump won't be lecture trump is the boss and zalinski will subservient . and when that conversation was published, you know, with a scandal, you know, the congress made them publish it. zelinski looked like an idiot because he didn't understand the brown had no power. and it was, it was the basis for impeachment process in became the basis. so the problem is miscommunication. i mean micro his lot. today he has a phone, talk with him and he says we should not be a crusher. and on the same day, he signs on all the sending. the french says artillery pieces, great. so he's in the community, but he is a very strange to me saying in reference to one of the sites. so the problem with these people that they will fail just like they always fail. and of course,
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they're a kind of electro character for mock wrong, who is still facing on an entry elections in france, which is not winning. and of course it was also kind of a shield or sholtes, you know, after zelinski basically in south of the president. and after shows has been blasted by the drum and media for not st weapons. ok, you know, he's that curse. so this is just to show for a drama running the show, the george same thing to you because it looks to me, you know, you're not talking about so many times of the, the west is offering russia in off ram. there's always that offer, you know, but basically is what, what would would buy, wants to do jake sell of inventory new and you know, and then he blank and they want mccrendon schultz to take the fall for this and say we told them not your cravings, you know nothing about your grade without the crane when they want to keep their
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hands, they want to keep their dirty hands clean, but they want the europeans to do it. and basically, as i said, you know, make them a deal about future membership, but makes concessions and get this war over. that's way i read it right now, george. go ahead. well, i don't know that the united states actually once the war to come to an end because there was an over the weekend in the washington post, which is based on confidential conversations with vitamin ministration in which they admit that ukraine really has no winning. however, they're going to keep pouring in more and more homes because of the prospect of russia winning. this is so dire to the rule based on the and they just have to keep doing it, even if it causes inflation. salvation recession all over the world. i mean, it's explicit, this thing, we don't care what we can on the crisis is going to cause globally. we're just
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going to continue doing so. and now we have the latest use that lithuania could be of locating lee. and so there are forces that get wanting to escalate the situation, but of course it is the europeans who are going to pay the price. and that's always been the plat because they're the ones the next to your brain and the well, you know what i mean? my family still, so i'm sure back on the same over they want this brought to an end with a loan in a position to do anything because whatever they say and you know, have them as many times they can go to here. as long as the bible ministration is continuing to on the right as long, you know, you get another bill in the next probably they'll be another couple of 1000000000 long viking people are willing to send in everything and then the there's nothing for macro go shows to do it,
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it's essentially just humiliation because we want to keep the lines of communication open. ok. and then when you call, i mean i, i'm not in the kremlin is probably saying, well why, why are you calling ok? we're busy over here. ok. i mean, if you want to piece but you said weapons. ok, you talk one language, but you have wrapped in a different way. i mean, and then you have a french president of the german chancellor, just essentially humiliating themselves day after day. i mean, i mean this is madness and, and, and you and i, and i've been, i've talked about this for 20 years now. i date ourselves, this is all ideologically. absolutely. well, during the st. petersburg, all the handle sniffed, eager section that demonized good station. he saw the very wise phrase which i reached the welcome audience. you said the reason for you kill european
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these i am the least most, you know, the humane for marketing. one of you is that now they destroyed, by basically imposing to borrow one russian oil and gas gauge and the very best president for the future. these people destroy the reclining in europe and look how many verifications they found, and they always chose the wrong, the wrong direction. you know, obama, you repeat union? well, the rebellion started to see if they could just stay away from it. and somehow things will be sold themselves. no, they wasn't both. and they and they started this really bad civil war, right. then we can basically cancel the ball being and there was a chemical design with it. they would just, you know, stay with it and say thank you know, they decided to take revenge and they organized these basically don't really go to the coup in 2014 ukraine. ok. that happened. the civil war
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happened in ukraine, which was a consequence of that. and instead of staying you again the support of the ukrainian army, they go this situation inc or into, into a deadlock that rush to get the bolt in all the 24th of february. so every time they chose the wrong direction, and now a site and writes that 73 percent of beans, when russia ok, then these people wrote it up, want themselves, they are humane. capitalism is dead. i want to see with the price is by going to see with our boy amount my won't proceed with german green vice chancellor. say wash yourself with cold water. no, don't use precious. what is this time should be done? well, this is misery. it. georgia during potent speech,
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he talked about the eventual not possible eventual social unrest in there that's going to be exhibited in the west and having new leads. and it seems very prescient to me because the entire premise of the you, by its creators, was security and prosperity. and they're not delivering on either one. right? no, you can't keep talking about it. when reality is the opposite. go ahead, george. yes, yes. unfortunately, the k a e u is leading the conference to austin. he pointed out that the energy problems. 1 long pre date of the position of sanctions, you know, you gamble day on the, you know, they didn't even remotely have the infrastructure for the renewables in place and we will get rid of the fossil fuels, then they gambled foolishly on these the allies. and so i'm thinking about
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a russian economy and then the, you know, they really have no idea what to do next. and what's, what's really happening is they are in, be on the mind, not just the basis of the kind of the global kind of financial system with the dollar and the reserve currency, the euro, and everything. because countries are going to just move away from that to what they've done is created the spot market for their ideology. ok, and you could lose big time and they are all the time we have. i want to thank my guest pass that here in moscow. i think our viewers are watching us here are the scene next time. remember, ah night . right? in tax on other countries
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economic sanctions are, are often just the beginning. another thing you like to do is place some military pressure on the countries that you're talking about here. and there has to be an effort to demonize that country and the leader of that country. so we have a responsibility for the whole world and we need to make rules for the rest. because without us there will be k i d. o. remember 6 months ago everyone was looking about them. now much less. so i think climate change will reemerge as an important topic at some point because people see floods,
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