time right now, your agency has a rather long title and a broad mandate. so to help our audience understand what she do and how you do it, how is your agency different from us aid, which is perhaps you are the biggest them reaches competitor? well, it's fairly much difference. in fact, you know, not taking into consideration the long day before it goes, aids. usaa is much shorter and more user friendly. i wonder if our english speaking audience could even pronounce that also through the well, this is a part of the exposure to the russian culture. yes. so yes, it is much, much larger in terms of budgeting, 1st of all, and then they have that function of for international development. not of very much of all was fear of interest. and the thing that we're doing, we are very much more concentrated educational issues on,

on cultural issues like exhibition. so the thing that we would certainly prefer to do much more on international development. we even have that our governmental program at schools in english is school that way for international development assistance for and if you don't, you have the intention but don't have enough fun. no, we don't have enough funds. even with the funds that you have. how much geopolitics do you have to take into account? because with the u. s. head, they definitely they follow the american political life. assume you also have to further some of them. we are function, the lee and a part of the minister of foreign affairs. so we are a state federal agency bought in the structure of m a r. certainly we do follow all those streams like the importance of the closer,

like ex ussr republics bots at the same time. oh, we're facing a bit of problems these days because of that geopolitics and who doesn't. oh, yes. mainly in settling western eastern europe in eastern europe, we have our some of our offices, our cultural center. so full cultural centers being closed recently, like in slovenia, slovakia, my cydonia montenegro, and others. in fact, our offices in cultural centers in united states and britain were closed lost here . our stuff was not expelled, but well, i will visit expired and not renewed. i guess that's in line with how the russian diplomatic personnel has been treated around the world. and i know that there is

now a sort of re shuffling both in terms of how resources are allocated and how stuff is distributed around the world. do you think and from what i know, the russian foreign affairs minister wants to pivot more towards the non western world as perhaps a more promising area of international cooperation? is that how you in visit your work in the future differently? actually we started that shift for a while ago. what i will just answer also through did 2 voyager see a kind of empathy, you know a so when i just started my work there, here in the agency is 2 years ago was started a shift a we were taking some stuff. positions from western europe,

relocating them to you as soon as it gets done and all this. this is much of a much more important why. why is that important? since you started a then before the geopolitical difficulties, the main aim of our agency is building trust. he's having those rooms committed in ties with russia, working with the public opinion. and in fact, if we lose support for public opinion, somewhere in luxembourg is not that much harmful actually really well come with adding to it combating to if we lose that friendly opinion towards russia in kill your storm. as for example, that would be painful for us for mr. promoteco. i'm sure you can predict our viewers next dancer, the military operation, the russia still conducting in ukraine is definitely watched very closely in the,

in its neighboring countries. and it's not watched with excitement and do you think your work in your abroad and further abroad will have to change this strategy as the methods the difficulties that work as a result of rushes to recent decisions? well yes, certainly we needs, we have to, we need to be more much more proactive. we cannot rely upon only some cultural events like exhibitions or concepts are in fact we've all developed a small brochure. all that's conflict was some fatty simple explanations. what was happening. starting from 2014 like what happened in odessa? oh, was 2nd of march ray developing, who was, who was the journalist local dallas was in ah, what is i daughter?

ah, because he knew of people interested in these events. they certainly can search for the information on the web. they have those websites and so, but let's take into consideration considerations and ordinary people like regular ones that don't know, they don't have a clue and what was happening and what is happening right now. and we've translated the brochures, couple of pages only very short and simple. we've just says into 12 languages. it's sort of only english and french. it's fantasy, so romanian saturday and and you come to this profession and as a war importer and as a field trip, what before dealing with previous life? yes. but you can still rely on that experience. do you think one brochure or even several brochures translate in multiple languages? a job? no difference. this is one only one hint as small parts of a global,

much more wide job actually. and this is not the way to persuade. this is the way to give instrument to persuade. it's uploaded to a website. so each and every person older on the globe could download it in p d. f format, print it and use it. if they need to persuade the well friends or whoever. now i'm sure you follow the discussion here in russia, and the one of their opinions here is that the russia has lost the public opinion battle or media war. do you agree with that? and do you think there was even a chance of winning? but being on an equal footing given the difference in media resources that we happened to with in terms of not just broadcasting your point of view, but simply broadcasting the facts that you see from your side. we definitely need

to keep broadcasting its box at the same time. when you play according to rules that you do not control. you all, you all understand that are etc, is bad. food need these barons, our news agencies, all bands. no, you have a problem with youtube. so trying to work of the same field. our opponents work is something well or not that much effective. and this is not a matter of how are you going to persuade because you don't manage the field. you don't manage the field, mainstream media in europe in the united states brain wash of public opinion. so i, i don't think that of that easy to change actually. well, you will be in part, i'm sorry for interrupting join. got through real deeds,

non just blah, blah blah, from the mobile unit is the same time as to need to keep, keep broadcasting. now i remember when you 1st came to this position i, you posted the, i don't remember it was a tweet or maybe a facebook post about how the methods of this organization need to change and how you need to be perhaps far more practical and connected to the needs of, of the communities that you're actually wanna benefit. so for example, having a well, instead of, let's say some i don't know, contest language, cost contest dedicated to point alexander push can. is that practicality, still part of your job and can you, can you actually do something meaningful by these methods with the limited resource as well? with the limited resources. this is the, the main, the main points. so in the limit of the limit goodness of the resources. this is no,

no, no, this is a matter of law resources, ltd. the point is that yes, certainly we're changing our attitude in our programs that are becoming a bit a bit of it's more practical pragmatic. ah, just to give you a few examples. ah, we have some certain lands projects like some anniversaries of frosh in the philosophers, all writers or poets or artists or whatsoever. but at the same time this, there should be a way to make it more social, like as for example, last year was the 200 years and diversity of the say, yes. and i was visiting our cultural sense in berlin. and they had a really exposition of exhibition of a graphics ran some illustrative paperwork on this day of sky

of crime and punishment or something. and i saw a rather old lady visiting it. she was actually alone, the whole hall, where those beaches were submitted. and i was asking our head of the cultural center. why don't you make a seminar on some social problems our being described in the stay of ski works and why well, to just gather people. so they start discussing, let's see, crime and punishment of them. they will certainly see something to be an interesting discussion in today's ca, dilemma. there are some certainly some certain social problem problems for well, um, this is the way we need to understand what is the need for the audience to r m a hearing you correctly, that not only you have to do a lot of things, but the limit sources we need to do it in a new way, was more creative. ok,

now you still have to project a certain image of fresh and from my observation, even here in russia on the russian television, people dont always know that country well or perhaps don't always understand his motivations accurately. if i were to ask you to describe russia what it is as a country, what it stands for, what it's values are in a couple of sentences. well, in a couple of samples and, well, i mean, i'm happy to dive and i will tell story to be sure, good luck cheesy, but it's still part of your job. you, for your project manager, discuss russia. he's been coming perceived as a continent of law and the quality actually we have a number of families. they are not in our terms, compatriots, they're not trustworthy. any, they don't have any ties with russia. but the of the other traditional families

from united states, some farmers, and so on. they asked our agency to relocate to russia to assist them. and we're trying now to find where they can well ransom lands or something in couple of russian regions are, this is very important. we know the term russian world. this is not only boss compatriots, this is about values. and what kind of values are 1st of all, as equality and tradition. and this is not something you do are being looked on the boss. this is a kind of our view of for the future. this is the way to manage all future that there are some, a lot of families, they need to rise. the children in adequate or echoes fear. adequate

ations with all this was not so being a crazy bald things like b l m l g, b, t in all these things. this is good. so conservative values, wow, know about conservative, but adequate. okay, well let's take an adequate break right now, but we will be back in just a few moments. stay tuned. ah ah ah ah ah

ah welcome back to was a points smith gave him a po, had a for us such winchester russians agency, bro, or international humanitarian corporation. do you think you were talking before about the need to come up with new methods and new ways of doing business? do you think you may need a new name for yourself to to make it more appealing, more easier for people? really things are really very much bureaucratic. if we were an n geo, that would be much easier bought. so we are estates, see, so we need to do

a lot to had a lot of people work. okay. and you have to be true to your traditions as well. don't you think that some of the traditions are holding russia back and juggling it's in a smoothly certainly we need to fight our crazy bureaucracy. first of all, as we, as, as for example, if we are needs to start some project like, you know, of funding a network of fresh and schools as, for example, ah, 1st of all, what i get from the ministry of finance is that we are a state agency, we cannot spend state money abroad. so we need to start elaborating some well, treaty ways to do so. all that's why russia is doing a lot on financing. again, agencies, we use them here in agencies. do the job. not rush directly. i'm not

getting the credit for that. i mean, for there's a problem. you sure there's a problem. you seem to be very open about things you don't like. and here in russia, that's not the a very glossy image of the country, but at least it's on, as do you think about bureaucrats and not just about you. i think there is also a certain quality to russia of being able to accept what it is in both ways. so perhaps not so attractive ways do you think that is something that may appeal to foreign audience as the russians, you know, accepting themselves for who they are, they're difficult history and challenging circumstances. and perhaps an interesting future of this is very much a philosophical, actually the point is that yes, we do have a lot of all internal problems. are the points ease that

when we speak to a foreign audience that he's a very tricky situation. when we can criticize what we're doing, what we are not very happy when we hear the things from a broad towards russia. this is all right. criticized always serves but not, you know, not being happy with. this is the problem actually with all the thing about the foreign agents and so on and so forth with the russian position was we have certainly will have opposition. a very adequate to say word whether the same time we have all the people be mad. being simply mad. now you mentioned that culture used to be a big part of your mandate cultural corporation, and we're seeing in many western countries efforts. no, just a sensor,

but right out of the counselors, russian culture classical, irrational culture. you know, people like chick or scanned you mentioned dust, they have not really is crazy, but i wonder how do you interpret that on their geo political level? do you think it's any jerk reaction or do you think there is a deeper strategy there on the part of people who do that? well i guess both. i guess both. first of all we have our, you know, very psychiatric reaction or what is happening. and then we as you know, very impulsive and then with the same time, certainly we do have some very on the strategic policy towards counseling, rational culture. i will give you a very funny example of that. as you may remember, the very beginning of this special military operation of that was just the if ski course in italy,

being bands of something. and i was reading comments on twitter. there was italian lady writing something what a shape. we should not band this day if you, because he's russian and there was a brilliant commands. comment off another italian lady like the say, if you was banned course in the states that was been thought because he was russian . but because he supported put him on was brilliant. well, i guess that shows the level of education of certain people who leave comments, but you know, russian culture again, traditional irrational culture, has long been celebrated in the west and around to one for its ability to reach into the depth of the human soul. and if we indeed take the current conflict as an ontological battle between russia and the west, then perhaps it makes sense to you. but some of the of those works precisely because of the ability to sort of cut through the ideological chorus. do you think

that has any relevance to what's happening today? certainly, it is actually, if you saw with was already called a couple of times it could crash of civilization something. and certainly russian civilization in terms of heritage in terms of culture is very much different. is very much the jury last, let's say 30 plus years our opponents would go smoothly trying to make us simple, easy and stupid. and that didn't work well. you know, i've been following american political science for quite some time. and i agree with you to habit to present russia as this carrier of crude barrick power, as opposed to the americans who are supposedly rely only on salts or smart power

and make their friends and allies comply with their wishes because they genuine me one. so, but we understand both, i think we would agree that it's not the case, but if you look at other examples of russian humanitarian involvement of humanitarian investment, let's take, i'm gonna send, for example, there wasn't military impression there. but there was also a massive effort to invest in schools in bridges, in education. the level of financing wasn't part of the american, but the russians have never really taken credit for what they try to do. do you think that's still a problem in this day and age? definitely is. i worked in the style. i had a few missions there. and once i met a guy that fought against soviets, actually i made a lot of those, but that one was quite special. and the guy was covered with blog because it was

catching him up. she pulled whatsoever on the market. and he told me, it was such a pleasure to fight with you because you fought, honestly, we saw your soldiers. we fought against those. you fought against us directly at the same time you were building hospitals, schools and all this stuff. but those americans, we even do not see them. the boom bust from somewhere from alta space and the seats . all so i saw a great respect, actually 2 things being done by soviet union, by russia, even taking into consideration that we were fighting. do you think that may repeat itself in ukraine because there is also a question of how this war is fought in ukraine. the portrayal you're seeing the western media is absolute, blah thurston. as you know,

russians being not just barbaric but killing people for the sake like kneeling. but i think the way it's viewed from the inside. i do think there is a certain dignity that the russian military force to itself and how it fights its own war as do you think the ukrainians as much as they hate us, understandably, hayden, this country right now? do you think they come, they will come to the same realization a couple of years, a couple of decades down the line. i hope so. i don't know how much time would it take, actually, but we're doing a lot even though. even a again, taking into consideration we can not spend, our agency cannot spend state money brought, or we have a partner organization and, and you, russian, committed admission. they're actually delivering community in a there then not only food but, you know, medical instruments was surgical equipment and so on. ah. and we hope that if the say at say, at some moment that will work, actually,

your people will start to understand that, ah, ah, keeping with russia keeping up with russia is a thing of for dignity, police prosperity. oh, this is good. this is good. ok. again, no, no, i watched, i would say, now you're working with a russian humanitarian mission before taking this post than i know it took you to the african logan's region where people have waited for russia to intervene for quite some time. i'm going to ask you a sensitive question, but it's an honest question on the last given that the russia is perceived as that as an aggressor. don't you think that perhaps russia, on the contrary, waited for wait too long to have those people on humanitarian grounds? i'm a bureaucrats. i'm a little in

a position to criticize decisions. but at the same time, asking you in your former capacity, i'm a citizen. and yes, certainly, i think dad's our intervention looked in terms of military like a military intervention, but doing something to assist this people to save them. this is the thing that should have been done long before these events started. so would it be fair to say that russia, instead of being impulsive, was actually very hesitant when it comes to ukraine and i originally, we were giving chance to or are, or some time ago we called those phase and people, partners. but now i don't know how to call the opponents. let's say opponents, we're giving a lot of chances to you create to solve the problem. we were relying upon those

means agreement for a long while. bothwell is finished. well, well, it's not finished, but let's hope that when, if it is finish, then your agency will be able to do at least a little bit to make sure that the russian, your brain is not like each other. then kevin, at least, you know, communicate with a separate mike off. it's been great. pleasure. thank you very much. and thank you for watching hope to see her again on the walls apart next week with . mm

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