to clean it off is come all with a good will gesture. russia says it has pulled its troops out from ukraine, snake island to facilitate the un back tech supportive grain. cutting off. he had a speculation on the global food crisis. plus, i don't know what to start with, that's how ukranian soldiers hiding behind the backs of elderly women were firing with these weapons. as the conflict, rage is on dumbass. residents with the rift memories of abuse psychiatric troops in their homeland. something russian president vladimir putin grounded genocide, a crime against humanity. that is the only definition for the actions of keeps regime and no written law for freedom fighters. that's how ukraine found boston to germany has attempted to vindicate world war 2 not to collaborate in stephan band

era who is with it among ukrainian far right. group job described a bizarre. i did visit his grade because not only to me, but to many ukrainians. steppin band era embody someone who fights for freedom and ukrainian independence with very well welcome to you. this is on the international with the latest world news update is good to have you with us. now, the russian president vladimir putin has met in moscow with his indonesian count pont ciocca window for a wide range of talks. that's off the indonesian leader. currently chairman of the g 20 visited care. he said he had a message from ukraine, president lensky with jakarta, agreeing to serve as a mediator, and the ukraine conflicts your bush. the need is focused on prospects for developing trade and tourism between russia and indonesia, putin, onto the, underneath the encounter, part of the discuss the global crisis related supply chain disruptions as well as

ways to so problem. and then when you those but you both have repeatedly emphasize putting global market disruption was caused by many years and responsible macro economic policy that are conducted by a number of countries that have used to perform the sanctions imposed against russian and follow russian exports of brain and fertilizers only further, the stable situation should be done. another thing that we discussed was the situation with the food and the fertilizer supplies, which is very important to item for the global community that hundreds of millions of suffering on account of the disruption. and i appreciate the fact suzanne, young president, prudent said the trash guarantees i mean, and i'm safe supplies and slices by from russia,

but also from ukraine in this property. i come to moscow has withdrawn its troops from snake island, a strategic point in the black sea that was immediately taken by russian forces. when the conflict could, in late february, most go say it's a move, it's an axis. goodwill to support you in efforts to facilitate ukrainian grain expose to the global market. it's although you're young, crushed a short russian armed forces completed their assign tasks on snake island and withdrew their garrison from there on june 30th as a gesture of good. will hon thereby we are showing to the global community that russia is not hindering un efforts to organize a humanitarian corridor to transport agricultural goods from ukrainian territory. to sort of this decision will not allow key of to speculate about an impending food crisis by saying it's impossible to transport grain due to russia's total control of the northwestern part of the black sea rose up. thank island is located within the vicinity of ki shipping lanes and carrying from the major port of odessa to

have claimed that russia's control of that section of the black sea was an obstacle to ukrainian grain exports. will elia i heard from arte correspondence among causewell, who explained the situation? first of all, a bit of far back ground on this so islands in the black sea of the coast of la dest, so l ukrainian troops, they surrendered it back in february, in the early stages of russia's especial military operation. back then, a key of authorities claimed that sir russia at sacked and they killed marines that were a station to own that islands. and they instantly proclaimed all of them as heroes . however, it later turns out that those elite marines actually surrendered to russia and we're all alive and so well in captivity in the crimea. now, since then, ukraine fright tried to at tags. mean the island is several times in a, b,

r stands of fashion. however, that was that without any success and it actually costs ukraine the lives of scores of it's a special forces troops and also loss of expensive equipments as well. now russia is a showing this gesture of fudge is somehow risk fixing that is i $45.00 freight lease, or anybody else carrying a grain or any other types of goods from leaving the country said sir, its oil waters. however, the question at this point that remains will ukraine and use this as a yet another b r stand up or actually starts at the mining, it's cold line from its very own explosives that are basically filled on the coastline. odessa, in other places. russia has also confirmed a prisoner exchange with ukraine. what do we know about that?

russian defense ministry says that it carried outside direct orders of presidents of letting her boots and, and exchanged 144 ukrainian captives for an equal number of a russian soldiers. and they said that practically all of those are returning to russia. don't s corps logan's. people's republics are injured. and some of those former, a captives actually sustained a very heavy injuries and they're all now being helped by emetics in russia. now, when asked about the details of this exchange, russian president says, spokesman as me trip his scarf said, that said the return of all those soldiers fighting for the people's rights to live and exist here in the next and elegance to people's republic is the most important thing for now, for them to return home the rest of the prerogative of the defense ministry. now

russian officials are saying that there are more than $6000.00 ukranian troops currently in captivity, who have surrendered overtaking a captive over the last 4 months of their special minutes. reparation author and journalist thomas wrote it down, think he ever will change its rhetoric on the grain exposure despite the russian pull out from say kind well 1st of all, key of unknowns ultimately that they will not export great until they receive the weapons they were mentioning until he should weapons rockets from the west. so in general, it was, it was a lie that russia is blocking. the export kia is using this as a, as a propaganda instrument. and i think they will come to you as long as they're one key. if we're still claim that there's the russian fleet in the back, lexie and so on, the police that a key of is, is an honest. so whether this will help, i have my doubts or the conflict wage are gone in other parts of ukraine and

dumbass rushes defense ministry has released this voltage of it. see based missiles being fired at targets inside ukraine. moscow says the high precision strike destroyed a key command and control posed in ukraine's. denise pro petrovic region. more than 20 ukranian trips and over 80 foreign mercenaries are said to have been killed on wednesday. now a warning were about shape from graphic and disturbing images from the don. yes, republic where dozens of unmarried bodies are still being found on the streets of the town of 2nd novice, your love, weeks after it came under control of russian. ned forces a number of nato military vehicles, plus scores of weapons and ammunition were apparently abandoned by ukrainian troops as they fled their positions. life gradually returns to norman and the ravaged dumbass city of mary all pol after it was retaken by russian lead trips. some locals have shared fresh,

detailed accounts of the use of human shields by ukrainian troops. why didn't i was stuck with? that's how ukrainian soldiers hide behind the backs of elderly women were firing with these weapons. what to do with the king is to can. i would go cuz there was also a case when our neighbor, sergei stood in the way of a tank there was going to enter his yard that despite him riding everywhere, there were children in the area. now, what are you shipping us with that tank broke through the gate and fired into the corner of the yard. sergei had served in the army and recognized the sound of the tanks ter returning, but that's why he ran out of his home. he stood in front of the tank and shook his head. no. then the tank left fresh noon yet. thank you for your can ship all is satisfied. ukrainian authorities claiming there is no neo nazi ideology within the states. kiev dumbasses to germany has openly praise notorious world war 2 era, nazi collaborators, step homebound, they're doing

a program on gym and media. and some of the ukrainian officials, comments stimuli came as a shock to the western journalist who interviewed him a dresser. as an ambassador, you have visited the grave of steppin ben dara. you said you are amazed by hand as to let's start with that with him. how long have you been amazed by stepan, ben dara and why? i never said i was amazed by him for a yes you did multiple times. i did visit his grade because not only to me, but to many ukrainians as a stepping band era, embody some one who fights for freedom and ukrainian independence was written, laws don't apply to freedom fighters like him. can you deny that he was an anti semite, and when will you admit that he and his people were involved in the murder of 800000 jews against you? oh no, he was not involved in it, but i leased there were pamphlets passed around when the germans entered elvin saying people as most of this you have to know that russians and polls hungarians and jews are our enemy. susie does, will eliminate them for you must know that i am sila, your fury of stepping been dera,

and i will not tell you today that i distance myself from that me off with the sincere russian president vladimir putin. a spoken housing condemnation of the ukrainian military campaign in dumbass over the past 8 years. he says there's only one way to describe it. genocide, committed by keith's forces against the people of the war torn region. but i see a terrific dealer will. will i be speech you? but i think he washes open to a dialogue. i'm providing strategic stability in securing the non proliferation of weapons of mass destruction and improving arms control and other origin effect the all of this will make it possible to avoid crises like the current one and on bass, where people are being protected from a genocide with a crime against humanity. that is the only definition for the actions of keeps regime clinical there. still billing a 4th of july, which makes her wants to avoid an open confrontation with russia. ukraine. that's the latest message from the blokes chief un sultan burg. amid a summit in madrid, however,

the new strategic concept of the western military alliance labels russia as a direct to and significant threats. auntie contributed rachel monson. briggs of the dee's house. important to say this is the a meeting of the western military industrial complex and marketing firm. basically, they make more promises of weapons for everyone. ukraine themselves, all using the fear of russia and china, for saber rattling, but that's not how stillberg sees it. if this becomes a full scale war between russia natal, then, was it suffering damage, death, destruction of the scale, which was much, much worse than what we see in ukraine today. jewels over a core responsibility of course, to prevent escalation beyond ukraine. and that's the reason why the 9th was not a part older conflict on the ground. well, what else did stilton burg say? he said that the final session at their summit focused on threats and challenges from the middle east,

north africa and the south region. he also said that they review progress in the fight against terrorism. as for the other nato members, leaders, let's see what they have to say during their press conferences, turkish president or tuan. remember he lifted his veto to sweden and finland joining nato. he calls it a diplomatic victory, which makes you wonder exactly what kind of concessions were made to turkey. we. we know it involves the kurds, but we haven't heard many of the details. german chancellor, all of schultz, he said that the west would not leave sanctions against russia if peace was concluded with ukraine on conditions imposed on here. so no end in sight to these anti russian forever. sanctions returning fire panel of guests. now to discuss this further that we have come on the battle india's at former foreign secretary scott, which form a u. s. marine corps intelligence officer and angelo, juliano political and financial analysts. many thanks to both aid if jennings on the program, really appreciate your time. my 1st question to juliana, please and,

and i, and what's your take on nato labeling? russia as is most significant and direct threat. there's no surprise here. i've been reading papers. thank papers for a long time since the, the, the pentagon papers send the more recent rand corporation papers and it was always clear that they would escalate. the idea here was to contain russia and your to my goal was to go for the big price, which is china. keep in mind that china was already in the target in 1965 in the, in the pet, the good papers they were aiming away. the china a, those plans are not done over the overnight if they will plan 50 years ahead. so i'm not surprised, it's going to be an escalation, but they are desperate desperate because in front of them, it's no senior,

it's no lead. yeah, it's not iraq. we are talking about based on superpower and it's back. it's not alone. it's not along the bricks. we bigger than the g $74.00 times bigger. and we can see people actually backing silently backing booking. and he's not alone. my next question to come on, sit bow please. now, as an angel, it was to saying, it's not any russia that nato has his side sets on the block, see for go ready called china, a serious challenge, marking the 1st time. actually, the data was direct to such a statement of aging does not look like the world is thinking into a new cold war, which could involve even more countries than in the 20th century. well, the goal was already de may not be called by by that name. in fact, in some ways, it is worse than the cold war because during the cold war, there was an effort by the united states and the soviet union to find proxy was.

but in distant geographies, but in the west nato united states and other they are fighting a proxy war right at the door. and there are enormous risks in this because students can escalated, they can go out. and in fact, we are talking about hybrid warfare. and what is happening is actually hybrid walk conducted by nato against russia. so we had already in that game, as for the rest of the world is concerned, actually there was a very nice movement, larger than any of the 2 blocks. we do not want to take sites in today's context. i think that this is not going to join sites against russia or for nato, for the simple reason that the was the this, the european conflict. deliberately august traded in because of

a failure to accommodate us to genuine security concerns. it is a european conflict. we did it being imposed on the rest of the world to this policy off sanctions which the west of the board and which others did, which is helping in the so called food shortage is for short term is commodity prices rising inflation, deception of supply chains and all the and much more importantly, oil price hike, we did the engine for all the economies. so i think as a wall goes on and if it goes on, the west is going to lose more and more support. because apart from, from problems the west itself will face, but they are much richer. the modus losses that the world actually will suffer much more than the rest will. and therefore they will be alienated, more than more us about the night. i was away also saying he wants to revive his partnership with japan, which of course, is a known rival of china,

will also having some territorial disputes with russia. so what do you make of nato's power play in that part of the world? well, you know, already there were out of the operations of nato and gun his time. a is an example in our region only a short while ago. the goal for natal extending is responsibilities to the asia pacific pacific region. now i just need to stop my does your nose. so i was pretty bad. and since i have been, have been invited and the intervention is clear and in the document they mention mentioned giant not only giant said that they're going to fall partnerships with countries beyond europe, including in the region, including the nation. so it's quite clear that nato is now becoming law amaica, amaica you see on the wall and,

and the security council, and that you and it is being delegated with back. unfortunately, this is now a unique moment, once again by this time when the dots atlantic allies joined together earlier on when you had the phase of us, you knew that political europe had doubts about that. and now we see europe and the like, whatever didn't come in together and this is a, this is a very, this is a lesson for the best on the love. all the idea that we had about my people not at the form of the national system off a new world order, respectfully international law. and that had been developing countries that both a little bit dominance, the whole project, all the russia, and yet dialogue, the bricks and everything else that is being compromised. that is being faced, facing a big challenge with the kind of times that we have seen. a question to scott, where to place and score nato's chief claims the block does not one of the confrontation with most because it was the take on that statement. considering the

fact that many ukrainian trips were trained by nato instructors. and now fighting with weapons supplied by the us led alliance. i mean, it's just a bold faced lie and he knows it, nobody knows it. but, you know, when the secretary defense of the united states states straight up, that the goal and objective of the united states, which is the lead player and nato, nato does not blame without american approval. it's nato's policy is to inflict as much harm as possible on russia in ukraine, so that russia will never again seek to entertain a similarly aggressive move that it did in ukraine against anywhere else in europe . that means that the purpose of the mission is to chill russians, as is simply put as possible. that is the mission of nato today. to kill as many russians as possible in ukraine without getting involved directly using

ukraine as a proxy force. ukraine is nothing less than an extension of nato's military power right now. and it's absurd to suggest otherwise. nato is also admitted. they've been preparing for this since 2014. so even though the nato summit says we're no longer partners with russia, nato has never been a partner with russia. nato has always been preparing for conflict with russia, and the current military struggle in ukraine is proof positive that this a question to out necessarily on a piece i don't biden has claimed that as so code nato i zation of europe is the only way to peace there, do you agree with that? well, there's one thing that, that the conflict is exposed is how much you is hostage of natal,

end the u. s. i a, i'd like to put to here. so maybe that's the 1st you have every does that actually the you was a us initiative the, the 1st actually what we consider to be the father of europe is your money. it was on the payroll of the see are you and how strange about the time? nancy? nancy, from what, what was the 1st president of the you? things are unveiling right now that you is not, is not it completely hijacked by us interest. and they all following, and the going against their own people day. when you, you look at feeling and see them, did they do as a reference them and ask people if they want to join, they won't do that. they won't do that. it's not this selling freedom and democracy,

but now they're not, they're, they're not real democracies and the supporting a state you queen, which is the least dom aquatic. there's no position, it's an at the state the supporting that he any. it's a shame considering the europe history with the not the history we have in europe. and we, we actually doing reverse accusation on telling that, that he's russia, it's a shame, it's a shame for europe and, and here. so i'd like to point out that, you know, in terms of freedom of, of, of expression, people are dissenting voices. now in europe i completely shut down their trust me, journalist of jail. you know, there's a journalist in germany that he's threatened or free for 3 years of jail. and they starting to question on, on people, in how i wrote nick, i'm, he, in china and i have much more freedom when he comes to talking about politics. i

don't need to use a vpn to get on our teeth. it's very ironic. any it is what we call reverse accusation. the nice these are us is behaving like nations right now. we need to ask ourselves if, if there is after, what would we there? there was a reason, the notification or you were just rebranding. no, the liberal that actually it said it was on the with a skin of a sheep and it is very dangerous it's. it's irrational, and it's putting the world at the big risk a quarter to list this about 1st, you know, for the 1st time japan, australia, south korea and new zealand attended this nato summit as guest. so do you expect any of these countries to join the block in the future? no, i don't think they need to join the block. formerly, it will be a partnership article at the end of the day when the $997.00,

so called founding act on natal with partnership with us. that was science that i show was not one of the becoming part of natal. what i mean is that for their own, they don't to extend this rate to the asia pacific reason. they don't statements, is that the part dissipation off our partners from the asia pacific region alongside other partners. demonstrated the value of our cooperation in tackling to share security challenges is quite clear that they will be actually it. japan is already a military ally of the, of the united states. and it's, the defense is totally dependent on the united states. south korea has us troops stationed on is foil. you will have the australia, new zealand, and united states joined in a military backed dates back to decades to all of them. feel like the united states of america. they don't have to join nato because that isn't needed an amendment of

the job and they're not going to be paying for that. but practical cooperation would all would exist. now you take the case of ukraine. you not a member of nato bodies being treated effectively, a member of nato, in terms of being it. and, you know, they have given $90000000000.00 of various forms to you can include the funds and everything else is different from being actually formative members. a member data is just a semantic they just play playing with with the they don't need to extend this partnership formally to the asia pacific, but the message is clear and in fact it will become the security. busy the security picture in the united in the asia pacific union will become even more complicated, even more complicated. we have the opposite of a, we have the asia pacific thing. now we have august we have the god.

so i don't know how many security it, it's going to be created in and in a sense that the, the overall message will get confused as to what is the phone. and i think it is wrong that the involving the asia pacific into something we do that sensually european problem limited to the relations between nato and russia. mr. replace new us hypersonic tests, missile test launch in hawaii has failed. not long off the russia demonstration isn't successful use of a hypersonic as grounds missile. what do you make of the parity between these 2 military superpowers, when it comes to such cutting edge weapons, but they look like the americans can keep up with russia? well, we can definitely out, spend russia so that, that notion that a field test would somehow mean the end of america's efforts to develop

these weapons for operational uses. you know, absurd, america will continue to poor billions of not tens of billions of not hundreds of billions of dollars into this problem. whether or not they will able to produce a successful weapon is, is, is yet known. i mean we, we only need to take a look at missile defense for the united states is poured hundreds of billions of dollars in the missile defense over the course of many decades. and we still can't field an interceptor capable of taking down a modern icbm. so, you know, a little russia has, you know, russia has taken a very practical approach. there weapons are much more streamlined, much more simple, much more basic of what they work. the united states sinks to, you know, make very sophisticated weapons and they don't work. we have time that has one more question, so i'd like to pose this one to all if you, if i may as fast to see mr. sid, bow please. i,

what else do you think can be done on the diplomatic front to ease tensions between nato, on one side and russia and china is perhaps a military solution that does not involve a direct conflict. for example, just how relevant is the terrorists these days. i briefly paced in to say about us, i don't see for the time being any possibility of a negotiated way out of this conflict. the united states even more, most recently, has stepped out once again, tensions on, on russia. now if they had in mind to open up space for negotiations for diplomacy, they wouldn't be doing this. now they feel that they have a chance to bring about whatever they hope to achieve in russia internally because they talked about the change and weakening of us job data lee and everything else. so they'll continue down that part and will not listen to any advice from any

caught up because it will be a major, major strategic defeat, for abiding presidency. if now to step back. because talking to finding diplomats, they gave out would actually imply that the current policies of sanctions, i mean you can not succeeding and therefore i'm pessimistic semester where to place look, dado is a rabbit dog and rabid dogs need to be put down. the question now is how the world will do this by surrounding the rabbit dog and letting it die of its own disease or actually shooting it right now in ukraine. russia shooting the rabbit dug there, destroying.