tv Cross Talk RT July 5, 2022 12:30am-1:01am EDT
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replace russian energy imports any time. soon on top of this, nato doubles down on strategy. it is only yielded disaster. are there any adults in the room? ah, to discuss these issues and more of joint, but i guess george said, well, we in budapest, he's a part castro, the guy which can be found on youtube and locals. and here in moscow, we have to meet the bob. she's a political analyst and editor. you know, it's me, internet media for a gentleman, cross stock rules, and that means been just the time you want and i was just kicking off with george and budapest. it's been a somewhat been a very exciting week. i would say george m m, i believe program e circus because that's what it was for. a new strategy came out of nato, which you and i discussed the venue would quite leg didn't make a whole lot of sense to me. but one thing that's very clear is that g 7, e, you,
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nato, they are essentially one. now there is been a complete fusion. and nato appears to be taking the lead, which of course is the back for, for the us to run all 3. and this is what i got from their new strategic concept, which has no original thinking and falls back on this gobbledygook. values are nonsense here, so it is a circus, it's, they're talking to themselves. they're not communicating. essentially what they claimed all along to projects ability to map back, stumbling down what is already failed your thoughts. oh, absolutely. right. no summary. i mean they call it the new strategic concept. i mean there's nothing, nothing strategic, nothing conceptual about it. so since 1991, we know that nato has no purpose for existing. be constantly inventing new
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reasons to exist as own. you know, we've had the humana care in intervention, preventing massive processes. then we have the war on terror. and then we've had all sorts of other things like women and so on. so this is now they've invented a new concept which is indefinite expansion. because if you keep expanding in definitely, sooner or later, you are going to get into an awful lot of trouble with the move. a lot of states would look like you expanding into the neighborhood. and then of course, that cell becomes the reason for nato to go on the existing. so when they talk now is a civic. so even though the civic is that they use in the nato domain, we don't exactly know. one thing in the pacific really means it's kind of a concept that they invented like western balkans. you know,
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there's another thing that they're very preoccupied with. not really defining what eastern balkans is because i guess western bolcom sounds a lot better. but what is it? well then now it, it sounds like they want to persuade india to join nato against china. and the other is known as a civic. is last to really the problem that here they do is create the enemy. and what does it know? well, it keeps moving into the, and in this neighborhood provoking and inevitable reaction. and then they don't, we look at how important we are for global stability. so give me your thoughts here because again, we, the mentors. nato is a defensive alliance. but why in alliances defensive, why does it need to expand it as it expands and creates animosity in the areas that is expanding to witness your brain demo? your thoughts? oh, well, let me. so let's just remember how do bullets need
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you need to? she was expansion about the sweden becoming members, you know, the plane and to become new members. but did you see turkey as usual sections and remember how young stock number would you want me to, you know, get moral. nito will just destroy disagreements inside nature. ok, just tell you which disagreements. nato was nameless, you know, they can, they, can, they go was neighbors in the own bins and destroy and maybe even the last number 7 ways to leave the i don't know why, you know the result. the result was never geez, and the destruction of the country,
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you know, basically a civil war there which april so tell me, where is this you disagree? but you know, mr. mr or ben just objected solomon, you bench or you are being union and he will do you mind if you read the west press, han and boy must go by some very vicious, you know, almost alien which are opposing everything that is good. you are simply because these people objected 2 or 3 points that you nice to so go to the right, they can, they miss it, expands and they've also said, oh, these any mean you so about our disagreements that we should grant you. so you know that the latest, the latest idea is that there's, you know, what consensus,
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you know, immediately action which i think is a very dangerous thing. was them they to be, will get, they can, anyone who is not the why the states and all day. so basically, you know, it's the same or story is the same evolution, the journey made between like and when does and then to fort is getting more and more area it more and more aggressive and destroying disagreements inside it because they don't around. and so it's interesting the point that out, and i think there is a difference here. george is that until we, we remember, you know, that, you know, we're not an alliance. it's not directed against anyone. you all this nonsense. well now it is ok. they've taken the basketball, russia, china, and this is what, this is what they want to galvanized the entire alliance around, which is, it's pretty bad. i mean, one of the things with these big compounds i've noticed is that this is an elite
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conversation that don't really see further down. you know, it's, it's, it's these people that they feel that they're the mandarins of the universe and that they're so very important. but i can tell you, looking at asian press ok, you know, the, the g 7 needs, so what the brussels makes it up. so what i mean, they have an oversized sense of themselves on the world stage. and, and what did, what many people say is that, you know, they are isolating themselves by directing all of their i'll focus on russia and we heard last week now, johnny george. that's exactly right. and that's very interesting. because during the, in the announcing the strategic process a several times a repeated every country has the right to determine its own future. that's what they said. no, no, no countries. oh, yeah,
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yeah. but the interesting thing is that everything that nato does is to call us. so the country's, i mean, i spent all that time going around the world telling india, oh, you have to join us is demonizing and sanctioning russia even though it has nothing to do with your the goes against your, your foreign policy goes against your national interest. it goes against your tradition, but you have to join up and they were doing that even to china. know them during the g 7, the last statement, there's a china after join us. you have to start enabling russia. so here is a, yeah, i want to determine the future of those don't determine the future along. ok. so once again, it's like you, you have a right to join us. you don't have a right not to join us. so you know, we always have the case with the bikes,
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russian foreign minister to come and visit, and then they do moves in, isn't already gone by over our space. so with, so the, as a sub is right, do a future. so that again, you know, the nature of which is we know we creating these enemies. and that's interesting is not nothing in the strategic concept about cooperation. and that's exactly what we're going to see. that's exactly where i want to go look at this strategic concept. i think was last, it was in 2000 and we haven't been playing out on the european content right now of course reference. great. not one word of how to resolve and in that conflict, not one word. ok. so what is the, what is this the defensive military alliance all about, ok, they're not going to talk about peace in their own neighborhood. and of course, the argument has been made and i'll be,
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it's the argument that the russians have made is that at the very core of this problem is nate spencer no addressing that issue whatsoever. i had a ration, but also when legal said i don't, i don't know just how it's own allies to live in again. i mean, women, decent security. i just want, you know, i think you discussed it with joe, you know, this is mom wants of nato. seems to come on, you know, a well, if you're a woman, then you have to have your own military get. you are formally listed in the army. army can draw you for its own purposes, a nurse. so this is
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women, peace and security. this is the symbol. oh no, they chose spreading. i think is george and i, we were they, we did a long video on this on the gap, which i urge everyone to look at. i mean, we were trying to figure out why those 3 words worked together, maybe like less so. i mean, the in general, correct me if i'm wrong, but there's something wrong with more than one. so like for women is united states, you know, you know, affordable kid but is a lie, a people at the battle field. this is all very important, right? but they always forget about iraq. there's, you, people talk about this, right? you know, companies,
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but we do have affordable expenses here. and this is the main point. maybe this is just one more a you mentioned that real quickly here. i mean, this is one of the most irritating things in this document is the word values. give me 30 seconds, we go to the break, but i think it's the actual document is 11 pages long and the word values comes up of 17 times. so everything is really about it's bad. use memory specifies what these values are. you know. so please assume that they are gone mother an apple pie and all, and all those things. i mean, i know all sorts of other things as being pointed out, it's about all values are dropping women and sending them out and it's like, it's like, well it's very fluid, it values what we think at the time, laurie ben, gentleman company, we're going to go to restore break will stay ah,
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that you for russia. oh narrative and ignore some scheme divest to him. then the king was also a group in the 55 when. okay, so mine is 2000 speedy. when else calls with, we will van in the european union, the kremlin. yup, machines. the state aren't russia today, and split ortiz spoke neck, given our video agency, roughly all band to on youtube and pinterest tele to school nutrition, digital even crystal channels,
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with a welcome. as across, all things are considered id labelle. this is the home edition remind you were discussing some real ah was go back to here in moscow demand, i guess what is it $803000000.00 more dollars than i losing out how much money is being sent there as well over 50 percent of what russian spent on defense a year, but it was a very, it's some interesting stories coming out. and something that we've projected here is some of the high tech stuff that the u. s. and sending very expensive, a missile defense related to missile defense and whatnot. and there are some
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reports that it's landing, other hands, it's being sold on the black market. i knew this was going to happen if it isn't true back to we need more cooperation. but the stories are beginning to circulate. so not only is the conflict in the, in ukraine, not winding down and that's, that's craven choice on the side of the west. and zalinski backers. but now we have very sophisticated, very expensive, a military hardware floating around in the 3rd parties. what could possibly go wrong the month ahead? well, the most part of it is that the s, russian troops, bush, the ukrainian troops away, you know, them at a distance from that russian speak in the areas, you know, they're, they're mega in the eastern countries such as, don't, yeah. and, and the saw so unfortunately,
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the american why and long distance. well switch make it possible for the you bring and i, me to strike, not all the at these pages. so i'm just, you know, on the on saturday, the stock builder are you there? russian. people in the sand or in the downtown builder. so in fact, these barrels make this boy what more dangers, you know, i have a friend, you bring your relief here. you know, he became a russian citizen. all right? and he's probably helpful. so he's family, they all wore it for the russian citizenship where the russian, i asked him ok, so it's probably going to become part of russian. does your family it was the she said yes, but why don't you 7 were a middle. why has to be mostly politic like dan, there are, there should know this is not going to work for us. we want the full protection. i
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mean, you know, a situation. ok. we want to be part of what it means. security. ukrainian regime is terrible. we are ready to go down there for some time if there is whole, but that, but we don't want to leave why the people don't during these 8 years when they were not just they were all by the plane on this situation between the 2 fire is the worst, so this explains the rush of actions. and the problem with these american weapons is that they make these grey zone been russia and ukraine. the zone of course, the threat was high, must strike at the distance of 300 kilometers, which is about 200 miles more than 200 miles. this is a huge distance and you are right. some of these mountains do disappear. i change my american police, you know, the american journalist,
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look at your own newspaper. look at that range in mind is to $14000.00 how maybe you bring in weapons off in, locally or in iraq. you know, i mean, so see the bill, lord of war and that's what it's all about. it's a great film, george, this is something you talked about and you're probably one of the 1st actually to talk about it. what is it? what does the kind of tell us what dina was saying? this good, the can't be any have measures at this point. it has to be a total inclusive deal and it will be dictated. 5 the russian side at this point. ok. because the most after it, you know, this kind of 5050 gray area. no, it's not acceptable too much. it's not been too much. has been spent too many people have died too much, but this cannot happen again that and that's what the solution of this conflict is going to be a total solution. thoughts?
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yeah. a half of the total solution because whatever i was originally, tension may have been on february. this might you full, which was essentially just to liberate a little gas and then you know, just leave it, leave it there. i don't think that's the solution now because the americans specially but also the british and the rest of the day, so they don't keep boring in ever more sophisticated and dangerous weapons. you brent, they have to encourage zaleski and his gang to dog fighting this war. so there's no point, i just have to say that we've done, we've achieved our objectives because i won't have it because as long as they keep loving these mist and you know what the deal is maybe on saturday, they are the head targets inside russia. when they specifically promised the americans and the americans told the public, oh no, no,
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the we haven't been the one of your brain is the, i'm not going to target any cases in rock. i mean, we know that we're going to do this and we know that they go to target crimea. i mean, i'm already said that they go to target crimea a going to keep doing this and the americans, like, i'm not really going to keep doing this. and they think that this is the way to bring russia down by essentially keeping this will going and humiliating and eventually giving her a rush of them has so essentially take over the rest of the country and remove the people from power, you know, whoever they bring somebody else and with bringing back, you know, which they can allow these people to say. it's interesting to say that because there was a western and i want to just western poll opinion conducting inside of your grade
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last few days. and i sent you a 50 percent of the paintings and their, their own government as well as russia. b bear but claimed their own government for the fate of the fall in them. it's very interesting. i can remember places like responsible state grounds and all that say your grade is one of the world that your grades are completely, you know. and you know, i think that will have to be scrubbing some point because it's so embarrassing because the problem so much with western coverage of your grade, even before the conflict that it's a very complicated and one united country. and we're seeing this here. i have called what's going on in ukraine, also a civil war, and i think a lot of people you've already alluded to how people in different cities of your grade, only gradient. but when something like this happens, they want to total solution. they don't want to have this kind of growing floor
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that ukraine has been said since independence go ahead. no, i mean just for mary goes from the standpoint all imagine that some kind of very american gama k ball in canada and they receive it all the u. s. news in canada. yeah, i'm french watch them. you know, of course, there will be a lot of people in can you walk from. so if there is a chance to become a citizen, but little for that lucy, because there is more freedom, you know, the same story with christina and books right now in odessa, it is refusing to give children russian education, which is why he became english in your case educational english in your range, are you worries and this has been going on for 8 years and the late of these have been the one all 430 years. yeah. you're absolutely right. and you spoke
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to ations all there. well, i mean the west and probably has been saying, oh, what is plans have with all of the american day right here was that there will be a good read all i mean the last, but there will be agree want instructional that nothing. all the saw the you bringing armies resisting. right. that's true. bob, therapist with russian army, if you could, there is no group. sometimes the keel, a russian official, you know that the ukrainian groups, special forces groups the book cause, you know, usually there is, there is no very war. why? because people on a and maybe to the, to the new or just are ready to start the war a,
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the people on the ground. that's one thing. but george president by said, you know, when asked that, you know about a high energy prices against me and you know, and of course, you know what the western publics are going to have to suffer. and he says it is long as it takes. well, i think that you know, that time frame all of the, all of the nato combat, i think it was a, it was ray mcgovern at 330 blind mice, which i think even it was a really good way to put it here. i don't think they have, they actually speak for people on the ground that have to pay such high energy prices. and i think they're all there read the day for their bombastic emotional on xpo. say, when they go in completely disregarding the interest of their own people go ahead. yes, completely. and some of the other day that had this why house official was interviewed
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on cnn. and it was off this very question, what price we've been to pay. and we have to pay, you know, whatever price it takes for the liberal liberal. well, no, no. so we got, we, i mean, it doesn't matter. you don't have any food on the table. you don't have any gas tanks to get to work. the liberal won't order, and that's really, you know, he said he's blotted out the true, which is that this isn't the least war. it's all about, they go, they use you great, very cynically. you know, essentially destroy russia eventually destroy china and to dominate the, well, they don't go about it, but i know they're, they're always the lead this, this is a leading to disaster. you know, the germans a screening. you know,
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a, you know, a moment ago you were, you were saying that you were going to basically got them on a 2nd here. and i'll, and at this time i want to say to both you and who are you are the people that want to defend the liberal world, or they don't know what a they don't know what a leader of gasoline. they don't know how much electricity they don't care because it doesn't affect them. that is the water ok in the protection at the expense of everyone else. that's the end of my speech. amanda barbara, a want to thank you for watching us here. oh. in
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. oh in terms of much after listen, well it is in relation to the population size. so the key to real nice, these liberal values. and when i talk about little values, i'm talking about she's of tolerance and acceptance of each cosivity actual reality dissidence. i think what you need east to have this economic revolution which empowers the course of the pool so that they can so share in this vision. ah ah, thank you. with 6 i was showing
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