of russia, russia was impoverished. the usa loved the russian gun one. russia restored its economic strength and came in and built up gas. prom and ross, now state run energy corporations rebooted, the russian economy. suddenly we started hearing about how russia is a threat. russia is a problem, rush is a threat to the so called liberal order, you know, in china was the sick man of asia. they had no problem with that. the now china is building up and building better cell phones and united states. and when american manufacturers explored more steel and so suddenly now that china's competitor are a threat to the so called liberal order. and i mean, this is really the domination of the world by banks and corporations done in the name of this open international system liberal order, open societies. george soros refers to and that's what we're dealing with here. ok, let's go to matthew. in montreal, we obviously comes from the left to progressive left. he's a good friend of mine and a good friend of the program. but matthew year, not of the man of the left. neither am i. how do you understand the liberal order? go ahead. well,

i think that taylor did an excellent job. i mean, to add to that i, i, i think that one of the things that strikes me about the liberal world order is that it is rooted in a concept of anglo dash and liberalism, philosophically. and there's the sort of idea that all opinions are accepted except of course, those opinions which challenge the governing class. those are not, but overall everything is accepted and that's why britain was known. even in the 19th century as a zone of supporting international tera, tara fits, and many of the assassinations that began the late 1819th century were unleashed by various terrorist cells, anarchist groups that were cultivated from the things like lenin conference, 971, that provided a home safe, based in operations for the assassination of various statesmen, all around the world. and the idea was always, you know, that if you have a problem with various anarchist groups in your country, that's your country's problem. weeks that everybody and even today you have things

like when done a stan is a famous term given to london and various leaders over the past 30 years from various countries around the world have have written open complaints to britain for hosting headquarters of various international terrorists networks and groups that have conducted various d, stabilizing efforts in all sorts of countries, from egypt to nigeria and, and pakistan, and beyond. so, so i think you can, you have a masquerade of pretence towards acceptance and accepting all opinions, you know, as being equal. and again, accept the dominant opinion that which has the claim to truth is that which is wielded by those who have the power to impose your opinions. but that, that, that's it. and that's my point. and that's the point i tried to make the only introduction because this is all about the leads. ok, as long as they don't sock, right, because they don't stop, you was going to show and brittany, i mean, you know, are you willing to pay how much higher bra, gas prices,

energy prices for in ideology that doesn't necessarily. and i would certainly say doesn't represent you go ahead. yes, but let me make a more gentleman's america about liberalism. you see there is a big difference between ideologies. but when they are not in bower and where they are in bower, whether it be communism of islam or in your hands, et cetera. and as it's also true for liberalism, there are 3 characteristic of classical liberalism which present the liberals of people who claim to be liberal, as don defends. the 1st one is freedom of speech. yep, that was a quick thing among classical liberals with now. right. it's pretty obvious that they try to suppress. i don't have to explain it to after, which has been cancelled in europe in this all to cancel great job and i have been cut cancer than other people. so creed on a speech in effect is gone then of course, the most extreme case being assert. the 2nd thing is catalyst in the liberals

cleared themself, us not being in the grape of an ideology lager committees and crushes mockery journal, et cetera. but in fact, when you see, for example, the sanctions against russia, how could any with the, with any sense of reality thing that they could work sanctions. i've never work against cuba in july and all kinds of other countries and way with their work on a council, which is so connected to the rest of the world and which is so self sufficient, as kosher. you will have to be completely in the 8th of an idea, he to believe that that were and the dog, characteristic of liberalism that doesn't hold when to their info is representative democracy. oh, because of all preventative democracy, shippers is that there is 70 of the people 70 of a nation. and that's exactly what they don't want in the so called liberal order, where they want to impose what did their version of liberalism, which i just explained as very little to do,

pleasantly liberalism to every county in the world. and of course, you know, that's what they're not accepting, they don't accept it to other people of the dumbass. i mean, the fact also that they never wanted to negotiate and they still not want to negotiate with the people or the dundas, will have use the one to be either russian, so at the very least in the hand of mccain. this is something which we are, is completely hashanah comp. totally contradictory with a liberal principle. so acting crazy. i mean, we get confused by the fact that prison, the liberals, the because he beat and we've seen it with the 4th of july celebration yesterday. and he beat slogans going back to the $17.18 cent during which they have no intention whatsoever of applying to themselves. well, i've only got like you and chicago. i mean, i think it's fair to say and i am glad the child brought up cancel called and i'll mention woke ism and things like that. it's very totalitarian right now. i mean,

it, it, it, it has a very narrow acceptance of other ideas because other ideas are morally unacceptable. if they're not, you know, they're not not misjudged or are misplaced, they're morally wrong, and they bring in a moral dimension to this year. they're in that's what makes it very totalitarian because you can't negotiate with a totalitarian. caleb, go ahead in washington. sure, well, i mean, the dirty little secret of liberalism is that it's always propped up by your liberalism. you can't have a liberal society with a lot of without a lot of liberal institutions propping it out. the, as of the italian are not a group of liberals on the conference in central america that were backed by the united states, against the sandinista. they were not liberals the fallen gong religious called that is one of the main ante china entities in the united states attacking china with their at bach times. they are not a liberal organization. i read what they say about homosexuals and other other kind

of people. i mean, they're very vicious groove, you know, and you go down the line. i mean, throughout the world, the united states army trains crops up all kinds of fanatical, illiberal organizations to do their dirty work, to spread and defend the so called liberal order. and i mean, this applies even domestically within the united states. i mean, go back to 1980. you wouldn't have had the prosperous suburbs throughout the united states. if you didn't have you know, of prison, industrial complex and arise of police brutality in the urban centers against the african american community and everywhere you see this, the liberal order existing, the dirty little secret is that behind closed doors, there are heavy illiberal institutions backing it up with brute force and what's going on with julian assigned is a great example of that right now. and the, the rise of cancel culture. it is also a reality of it. they don't really believe in this liberal self they espouse though they like to have the, the near of that based on the prosperity that exists in certain stratum of their global financial empire to the end of the day. they want to contain their power and

that may require them to collapse into a fully liberal system. and that was what the 2nd world war was all about. fascism was the collapse of liberalism into ill liberalism to say, well, you know, matthew, i mean are you willing to sacrifice for this ideology? because that's what the, this, the current administration is saying. and i think that, you know, looking at the, the g 7 that met just recently, they're saying the same thing, suck it up. you have to pick up the tab for our comfort and our in the maintenance of our power. that's what exactly what they're saying. they're not hiding it anymore. go ahead, matthew. yeah, it is completely devoid of substance. and i mean, people are willing to sacrifice for a lot of their culture, their, their civilization, their, their nations, their families. i mean, if you give people a reason to sacrifice they will, they will go above and beyond. but there is a complete, shallow and shallowness in all honesty to the neo liberal ethic. and the fact that you have people like brain ease, or, or against oldenburg, saying that we have to be prepared to suffer to pay indefinitely. high gas prices

in food prices. when people are already living in the rent or living under water, they're suffering. and you're giving them nothing, you're demonstrating, matthew, let me ask you and i have a real quick question before we go to the break. do you think all these people that tell us that we all have to sacrifice? do you think they know what a leader of gasoline costs you think they know what a loaf of bread costs? do you think they have any idea what the average wages of a working people do you think they have any clue of that at all? go ahead real quick. no, they're all ivory tower. they've lived privilege. i've the silver spoon lives. they have no clue about any of these. they don't care. even if they did have a conceptual idea. it doesn't matter because their hearts are so detached from their logic that they couldn't possibly act accordingly, but of that knowledge. and that's because they're better than us and they know better than us. that's why they have this attitude here. right, gentlemen, i'm going to jump in here. we're going to go to a short break and out to lunch or break. we'll continue our discussion on the liberal order to stay with our team. ah,

no one else. sure thing wrong when i just don't whole. i mean, you get to see how it is becoming advocate and engagement equals the trail. when so many find themselves worlds apart, we choose to look for common ground. only one main thing is important for knox ism internationally speaking. that is, that nations that's allowed to do anything, all the mazda races, and then you have the minor nation. so the slave americans, proc obama and others have had a concept of american exceptionalism. international law exist as long as it serves the american interest. if it doesn't, it doesn't exist by turning those russians into this dangerous go. you man,

that wants to take over the world. that was caught your strategy. so some golf out of it, on your own english v i n b, i not leashed off to exhibit in tablet loc. nato said it's ours. we moved east. the reason us had gemini is so dangerous. is it the lie? the sovereignty of all the countries, the exceptionalism that american uses and its international war planning is one of the greatest threats to the populations of different nations. if nato, what is bad shareholders in united states and elsewhere in lodge obs companies would lose millions and millions or is business and business is good? and that is the reality of what we're facing, which is fashion with

industry to restock and just look up from literally a muscle around noon. she doesn't being in the green shield on a nurse to me as possible. mama cook as goose creek to somebody. tim katherine, this is ashley of dc. wanted to was the duplicate pieces, goes down to company one to move the cool position with me, but he has not. i am in the pony the right. something that we got at that point. did that with ramonica with

ah, welcome at the cross walk where all things are considered. i'm peter labelle. dramatic . we're discussing the liberal order with . let's go back to zone in brittany. i find it really curious. all of this is being said in the name of ukraine, and you can have your own opinion on the conflict and i've done. i think this is the 1st program i haven't done on it since the, in the military operations started on february 24th. but you know, where we had the, the g 7, we had nato meeting, and then we have jo, biding it as long as it takes. okay, enough. obviously it's, it's in reference to ukraine. so that, i mean, what i find very more curious than ever is that the regime in, in care is not liberal at all. okay. and it bands opposition parties. its main

opposition leader is under house arrest facing charges on the media sphere has been completely collapsed under a central control there that all of the television stations have been collapsed into that there's one message, only one message at all, no descent is allowed and this is what the or europeans are north americans and known that they are even a mentioned the global south has to pay for this type of regime that will be, we're going to be supporting as long as it takes go ahead. your response is that you're seeing how did it start this started in 2013 with the proposal for free trade zone between ukraine and the european union and efficiency. wait, wait a minute. we have a free trade with ukraine, young world, one with no answer, we should discuss. and then your opinion is another way down the stairs and then look of it where we're doing. they want to think americans organize the writer and

so on. what is interesting to sequence of event and then it went down and down and down train, and there was a now good to the especially generation and at no point at no point in this whole story, was there any discussion? even an article in a newspaper, this girl who debating the parliament in india, european counties, which are now suffering enormous. do you say, are you willing to suffer with asking me, i mean, if a guess as 2 people are there, why is there isn't it is no choice whatsoever. these no discussion is a religious code to 0. we have to defend you and why? and why? i mean, what does it mean? defend u. k. any rules, no negotiation, just about this. i mean, we have been bumping yugoslavia food in forcing in the, in bush and then in sylvia for a determination of various people late because of our being and so center. but any says that their mission of the people in the dumbasses serve book or doesn't make

any sense with these low discussion. no discussion. i mean, because you see the opposition party is our band. the band with demo position about is about these issues. i mean her with the he's on that so it's is that there is a hand system, but these are softer than italian system. the reason a soft is because a solely to the position when it's a hero position like a sergeant where he was in jail for cancer society's. and kate came of it. the more and more i look at it looking at western coverage of the conflict in ukraine, it's a very, for, in my mind it's very much a deflection for the liberal order to get its way, way into the green new deal. irrespective how you might feel about it, people not voting on it. ok. people don't vote on these things the that this, this, that the liberal world order doesn't trust a democracy. it doesn't trust voters. and so it's very interesting how there's a, there's an agenda dabbles agenda and then you have the conflict in ukraine. they

dovetail really well together because you know, if you don't support a ukrainian to somehow immoral your totalitarian and all these other bad things that they'll call you. i mean it does dovetail really good to go right after cove it by the way that was very totalitarian itself. go ahead caleb. sure. well right now we're seeing very much powered, grabbed by the big monopolies, jeff days. those and amazon, the walton family and walmart. the big for super major oil companies, they are trying to grab control of the market and just drive out any competitors and the domestic us economy. the same thing is happening in western europe, and the pandemic was a perfect storm for them. and these are the liberals and these, the ones that are in with joe biden. it's that old cold war, eastern establishment, the anglo american establishment. then they saw the pandemic as a great opportunity to just demolish their opposition. and there was kind of an

uprising against them from lower levels of capital, the fracking companies, that's the device, them lack water, military contractors, those folks were in the trump and the, and down and allowed them to just demolish their competitors, hobby lobby, big term support, company they shut down and so now they're trying to prolong this and the ride in oil prices and the huge gas prices that we're dealing with in the state cause like $87.00 to fill up your gas tank in the united states. i mean, just ridiculous, this is a way to ensure that monopoly and just make sure that, that lower level of capital, that is the opposition, that's trump in the state. it's the new right in europe. it's the breaking people they demolished and they don't have the financial capability to challenge the big dogs on the global national market. and i think that what's going on here in order to pull this off, they need the government to be involved. these folks free 3 market data, they sat around,

but they need the government to help secure their powered rabbit and kind of put these lower levels of capital out of business. and i think that, that what's interesting about, you know, you hear a lot of the libertarian books, they are libertarian because they see that the state is heavily involved in securing the monopoly for the big dogs. matthew, again, you know, where do you average working people tall in this here because they're the ones that pay. so the way i look at it is very bad decision making. and when things go wrong, well, everybody else picks up the tab and, and caleb's absolute right. you, we, we have, you know, we have socialism for the rich and capitalism for everybody else. okay. i mean, it, it just seems like an unfair playing field. i don't see how, what kind of power people have anymore under this system here. it's bankrupting people. growth is going down and it's still somehow you have to be morally behind this because it's for democracy it's against the talk receives. i mean that this is a they,

they're playing word salad with us go head matthew. yeah. they most certainly are. and i think that there is a deep miss entropy underlying the so called liberalism. when you listen to the remarks of people like, you know, you've all, harry, one of the group, the philosophical group trotted out by the world economic form, crowd and promoted as an ideologue group of what this, you know, great post, great reset age. the great narrative is going to look like you speak a lot about the global, this new useless class that he perceives as being an inevitable consequence of the 4th industrial revolution. and the type of social and economic changes they wish to bring about in the global order using the excuse of the current oncoming or the counting on coming the current financial collapse of the trans atlantic system now under way. so they don't see a role for many of the people, i would say the majority of the people living on the planet today. they don't see a role for them in the type of ivory tower order, the technocratic feudal order that they want to bring into being as an, as

a means to an end. and another thing is that they, the overall system, this, this bubble that is blowing up in, happen into because of co it or something like that. it happened because of could it does that? i think of it that happened in the late sixty's with the murders of j. k. bobby kennedy, martin luther king. and the transformation of a was viable industrial economic system into a post industrial speculative basket case driven by myopia. and my money was in the early seventy's when the dollar was, was dissociated with the fixed exchange rate, a goal system. and since then, it's been 50 years of atrophy of our infrastructure outsourcing, of, or, or, or heavy industry, an inability to sustain the lives of people. and a giant bubble upon bubble on people desk that is waiting to default and pick the whole thing down. so i think it is a time bomb, not a banking system which is collapsing. and that time on with set to create the effects of chaos like in 1023 by mar. and i think if you recognize that you can act and, and mitigate that in a way that allows the to be to fail base to take,

to know be there the welfare recipients as they are today. but instead, take the case, take date, they can suffering, we can protect the viable part of the real economies of the west. but it, that requires leadership and i don't see a lot of that now. well matthew, at the same time to very high inflation is very beneficial for the very, very rich because they can pay off their debts. ok, with a devalued currency works very well for them. ok. so let me go back to you. i mean, when i'm in american, i've been living in russia a long time, and i used to be an academic historian in the united states. and, you know, europe for me, in the post war era was, you know, confronted, defined by democracy by prosperity and by security. it seems the europe is losing all 3 of them very, very quickly because of neoliberalism. go ahead or yes, yes, but also the, the crazy policy of sanctions against russia has this effect. i mean, germany is now having a trade deficits was the 1st time in 30 years 1st time in 30 years,

a trade deficit. keep going. what would you see that the world is changing very rapidly with this war? because the most hallmark about things that even do most countries in the world come them washington eventually they couldn't do less than that because of course that was a violation of international law. and the most countries defend international law. they did another bray sanctions. in fact, the benefit on the trade that by more all material at india bay, more of materials from russia, china, there's 2 so that nobody cares about these western sanctions. and i think this is really a, he'll hear the end if you wish, of liberalism, the cases of liberalism neoliberalism, where the west has decided that they can print them on there. that's why. so marker for putting that in st. peter's book that the west prints monega fed and you had in central bank and then they used that money to buy goods in the used to be called a turn world in the rest of the world. but of course, this is

a complete scam because the, you can't buy these things. anything with the sprinted money that accept temporarily, as long as people trust the dollar, it's at her with this is going to come to an end. and i did the shock with the devastating i asked them. 0 one more minute, kayla. boy, i will let you finish off here, but i think i shall brings up a really good point. you know why the global south is not on board with the west when it comes to ukraine, because neoliberalism just isn't an attractive model for them. and you know, and they're not afraid of the west any more. because you know what the global south has power and it's growing. go ahead one minute to you, go ahead walking while the defining, believe this liberal orders, that growth must and how they believe that there's just too many people in the world really standards are rising to and because of climate change or what other, whatever other excuses they want to give growth must end with people around the world are saying, we want to grow, we want our economies to get stronger. we want to team up with russia and china,

the mountain road initiative, eurasian economic union, we want growth. we're going to have more than we had before. we're going to have a better life for our kids. and that is ultimately the real threat to the liberal order is that human beings continue to grow and expand and, and that new technology and raise people out of poverty. that's what the liberal order is really afraid of. the world is not going to stop. so they can stay on top . very well said thank you. that's all the time we have gentlemen. i want to think my guess in montreal, chicago and, and brittany and i want to thank my viewers for watching us. here are t, so you next time. remember, ross up rules i ah, yeah, there were 3 i school broker legal work. so for what are your thousands of people

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