tv Worlds Apart RT July 10, 2022 4:30pm-5:01pm EDT
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and responsibilities, ah, there is a lot of title walking here. and by all the leaderships, the address lines are clear. however, or the lawsuit of these are and the result of these hasn't become problematic in the past 6 months since february 20 for the title walking is done by russia, ukraine, europe, united states, china, india, ah, every other country is doing this tightrope. box number one, number 2 is the water preparation of the heart of the song, the russian general saying by march 5th to beverly lined up be all operations special operations. however, we are still looking at those in our military campaigns. and there is a huge logistics that isn't necessary. national mobilization is necessary
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or any kind of conflict. and we also seen the ran into success of 4 grown warfare in this conflict. i interviewed here for a 2nd because i know you have 2 other points to mention, but on this point of, you know, russian generals supposedly mentioning some deadline ways you hear that because i'm a russian, i follow the local media very, very attentively. and i think one of the specific features of this operation is that both the government, you know, i'm in the kremlin, the leadership of a lot of hootin, as well as his army circles. they didn't send any deadlines from the south, which for this specific reason of not limiting themselves. so where is this idea of them on the operation being too long comes from i'm well, i read this read your saw this video in kilogram by
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russian gender. and the quick outcome of the wall. and of course there was a mention of our b, a minimum possible agenda that he's the ukrainian neutrality, that go expansion and all the listing decided deployments by the nato in the russian borders. and he was just one of the generals because we can take it as his expert or private opinion because as i'm sure you would agree the, nobody can predict the outcome of the war or the ration over over a military operation at the, at this time, then the scene is trajectory change a couple of times because there was initially a move towards peace talks in turkey. and then the strategy on the western part
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seemed to have changed with more and more arms being santia crane. so if i were to ask you, how long do you think it's going to go for russia, he's the one of the best military forces in the or it used to be a super power 100. we tune them and it has a lot of just armed forces and military operations have been 100. yes. if you have to trace back from does our discussions who have built the napoleon in the french, your sand? so then you can relate to lead to call this russia. he's a major military power and we have already spent about 6 months. and ukraine is a very small country. also the kind of found forces they have could have
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been wizard of in the missions can't use it. so it is surprising for me the war dragged on the wrong time. i can't put it on point figure for the the deadline or a specific time frame. because as you mentioned, the weapons are coming from right. and the united states commented or are $2000000000.00 for this. and natal, our commercial also supply material. so it looks like it more for long. and i was trying to see the, the kind of logistics been necessary for this for long ball fish is a nightmare. they ammunition the full reference spare parts. a lot of things are required for this kind of fall off the credit with conventional and parents,
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capabilities and bill for the day. this is another factor in any future off including the pattern one of course. and the 3rd lesson from this conflict, i would imagine, is the economic preparedness, especially in terms of comprehensive national power. this concept came up during the soviet times, the americans copied it. and everybody else today is copying this concept of comprehensive national power. this need to be built up before anybody is willing to go for a conflict. that's why russia is concerned, it see self sufficiency as a mass not only for war times, but also for the times of peace. because especially when you look the at the fall back from this war and the destruction in production change sanctions that affect
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not only russia, but many countries that have absolutely nothing to do with the conflict in your brain. isn't that actually one of the silver linings of this bloody and horrible conflict that more and more countries are sort of looking into how to leave by their own means? and by that own wisdom and logic, rather than taking a ready solutions and advice from the powers that be that the powers that be that change the rules of the game as they go, as we have seen. because, you know, the rules of free trade and all those international agreements that are supposed to safeguard international trade, they're not functioning anymore. yes, i agree with proposition. what i was trying to enlist is one of the lessons that we learned so far as the economic preparedness in the light of
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day energy crisis. the full price is the sanctions de coming. there was an inflation in much of the rest of the or india is reading tourist 7.8 percent inflation and many other countries are actually both b b, a person trademarks. and so there is a possibility for recession along the recession. so i was just on routing to this economic consequences that the global community has to face. and this also suggest the disruption supply chain mechanisms all across. and obviously it will have an impact on everybody in this. ready i also wanted to say that this conflict, the special operation alters, had also deserted in the matter to wall. all the kind of
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of the city that he is. so one cannot simply say one, this game at the moment, not at your war is also very important. and this is where the conversations like this are important for us. so i was just building to this consequences conflict. i would be totally, that it is important to have those conversations and it's becoming hard to tell you increasingly more difficult because a channel like mine is blocked in on many western last social media. when you think about it, it's not just, you know, the work order's in russia and the west, as you pointed out, the consequences of all discretion affect everybody around the world. not only because of rashes, actions, but also because of the western sanctions. now,
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can i ask you, in a situation like this, there is always a question about who is to blame or who is to be held responsible. and americans, by an administration is blaming the russians not only for the war in ukraine, but also for their own inflation. but it is pretty clear to anyone who is advocated that the americans, a certain point, decided that the rest of the world can bear the consequences of them. punishing russia. do you think that's something that the world is ready to accept? do you see any changes in how the global politics called the global economy will be around in the future as a result of the americans and the western general, making a decision, a conscious decision to penalize everybody in the world because they want to punish russia. if you're speaking about them, the owner of the countries down either neutral or have been in the bank of the consequences of the contract. for example, the global child,
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so much of the food crisis is impacting on them. i would also say the vaccine distribution not related to this company because of the call they kind of make that is the united nations in the sheer to roxanne distribution for the global salt developing countries. even that has been affected. partly because of this conflict. as the many western countries are holding the vaccines, they want to double vaccinate, triple vaccinate, or do vaccines a 5 times or 10 times. because until there's been a holding of these vaccines by the not the global lot. diversity is packaging this as a kind of existential to them. but the majority of the countries
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are basically looking at the impact of the energy prices, the food prices, inflation and you know, many of the shoes. for instance, the, the middle east conflict, the city and conflict, the under development in africa, or in south america and asia. interestingly, none of these are being raised in the past 6 months. yeah. so, so that indicates that the whole narrative has been shifted to conflict in ukraine. and so that is more of the global. so as we not hearing that, please listen to us. you know, we also exist. we have a lot of problems that need to be resort, and especially in terms of the enemy, the vaccine just nobody is talking about this. so i think that he's if you're
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welcome back to well, to part with the street come, come to poly professor of chinese side is at the gym. i hello mary university in your daily professor before the break, we were talking about the impact of this conflict on many countries. but you specialize in chinese affairs and i want to ask you specifically about china and india because as much as these countries treat each other with suspicion, i think they reactive to this crisis in a, in a pretty similar way. both governments, as you said, what type type role, both governments benefited greatly from buying oil from russia, the discounted prices. i think indian benefited much more than china. i think your supplies of russian oil increased more than 8 times as since the beginning of,
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of the year. how do you think this whole conundrum will influence the dynamics that been this you, asian giants? i, you began with some of it to be shipped from iraq to us to, to asia in the case of china and india. although we began almost at the same level, china did in the growth rates as part of the form organizations program in 1978 till recently been growing at a 10 percent growth rate. now it just come down less than 3 percent, 4 percent, roughly. i want to call as medium high growth rates in the case of in your we just began with the growth rate and we are expected to florida on 8 percent. and it is hard for a country like india to drop that much of growth rate. but we are doing the
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new schemes that are being proposed by the government of the day. the current aspect is you mentioned china. i mean there is a lot of conflict going on between the tool, especially july, june, 15 night 2020. we had about 20 indian soldiers killed, an estimated on, accounted for chinese war killed in this. the chinese government after 8 months declared about 4 people. in this conflict bart dos, new agency mentioned 45 people in china. so maybe somewhere between $4.00 to $45.00 or even beyond what is important is that be signed a lot of agreements. asana you mentioned about the russian agreements that the u. s
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. and the nato countries, china and india have signed several agreements, $993.00 peace and tranquillity. 1996 trans building measures in rehab for also the 2003. i'm not in the petrol agreement because b, d, c. m, border defense ball person. i'm several of the protocols, i'm a bar to on june 15th to none of these mac or to really and the killing spree rental on for a whole night that night. and we were actually because if they sign an agreement with china in future of what would be the consequence of this, like water, it happened on june 15th, i'd like to try to charge a lot of, lot of law going on. but i think you would agree that the amount of blood is i'm
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comparable to what we have now. it's in the russians and the ukranian, they extend of the cranium. conflict is far more terrifying. horrible. i mean, i say that as a russian though with ukraine origins and i still have relatives in that country, is it? it's a huge pain and i think we will bear the consequences of it both economic, social and human consequences, moral consequences of it for they get to come. having said that, i think it's pretty clear that the americans are trying to utilize india in dire rivalry with china through or through some other measures to sort of bring an indian more forcefully into the western camp. having seen how the americans can keep their promises being in afghanistan or even in ukraine, do you think india can rely,
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safely rely on the americans in maritime affairs and security issues, et cetera? well, in the target choir meeting, communist or more, the tor president biden. darn the ukraine and crisis is continental. and so it's not part of the quite agenda. so weren't he was trying to mention is bifurcated both of these and indian foreign policy. we have what we mention as strategic. our call me. as you know, we follow the non alignment moment before recently the exist on the independent foreign policy and strategic autonomy and, and so i don't think the u. s. in your relation should not be kind of exaggerated. like everybody is previously in russia. absolutely. even know,
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china is heavily dependent on the american sci the stock exchanges. moments. the mighty national corporations that have invested in these countries is following the same path as the russians did since 91 and the chinese. and since 1978, i'm showing that anywhere, well, at least in anywhere in a good place, at least in the case of russian increasingly in the case of china. so do you think it's really worthwhile for india to follow in these 2 countries? i know, basically i was trying to say that at any country which wants to modernize, especially in infrastructure, they need a lot of capital and i need a lot of technology and, and need a lot of, you know, the, the stock exchange is a symbolic gestures. and these are necessary for any
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country which are modernizing and china exploited this substantially since 1978. and so i was just mentioning that any country which wants to have these mortem gadgets, et cetera, we'll have to open up as this a part of the globalization. the larger picture i was trying to suggest that there is a conflict between china and india and then the defense minister of india, rental muscle, in september 2018. the received 2 or 3 wanted in order to conduct china, india already us. so what i was trying to see is that shine get relations, did a lot of dept previously. i know that now and when that is a conflict with china, we know where to will fall for the sustenance,
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military sustenance, and so on. our time is running out. i want to try to squeeze in one more question about the tigers. i am, i want to close chairman now the founder of the people's republic of china, who said was that when someone is trying to wake a tiger a he or she needs to make sure that it has a long and i see now clearly the washington is now trying to contain what they called containing china di thing, they use the speak as a matter for, for the american strategy. the thing is 4 sided, and i do think it's long enough. oh, trust. i don't think the americans are contained in china, both china and america haven't g tool as well. my mentor once in 2009. i think this is a misnomer are contained in china. china are getting yes. they have a $780000000000.00 trade in their share trade is
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a $2000000000.00. china us trade is $780000000000.00. and every day prior to the time to make 6000 people cross off from the u. s, which kind of i said, what so, and so there is no containment. the soviet union was contained by the u. s. there, there was no trade, no investment, no market, no contract. that doesn't exist between us and china. i don't think there is any containment. the chinese keep flagging this just as a part of their defensive mechanism. bart, this is to put the americans in place by flagging containment pieces all the time. i don't think, in fact, china usaa relations are more stable and more having more strategic depth than us into relations or u. s. shutter. i do that because, i mean, it's not just the chinese for using it. it's also,
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it's in all american strategic documents that china is a major rival for them that needs to be a sort of also put in place. and why do you think that americans continue with this pretty and friendly just for us? and it went on, not only under the trump administration is continuous under the, by the administration. in the recent times since leg trump, we have seen that kind of language. but even the chinese use the same language chinese or did you get sports use the same language as the u. s. dark doesn't really disturb their trade investment. people contact. so what i was trying to say is this is not aren't in between time and less. they're heavily dependent on each other, and of course they can say anything. the longer telegram auto, b, whitehouse, national security guard that you don't creating or others. nevertheless,
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what is important is to have more dept in the u. s. trade is $100000000.00 on china. us treated as i just mentioned, 708 and there is more chinese investment in the u. s. their total chinese investment in india is $8000000000.00 for the 16 trillion dollar economy. just about $8000000000.00 in india. mark chinese investment outside is $1.00 trillion dollars, majority of dark or a large part of it is in the u. s. i, in canada and europe. so what i was trying to say is wondered about the, the statements given by the chinese ministers and it's part of the day there is a strategic dep between them. china, your trade is over $600000000000.00. and china's investment in c
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plus 17 countries is quite huge. italy, spain are all those big countries. fortunately, greece and spain, them rural investment in these big somebody is now functioning in any of the countries with infrastructure projects. and i just wondered, would say that these are all, it's no words. we have to see hard facts before we say that it is containment. for 2nd of all, we have to leave it there. one that one last thing that i would add is that there was also a lot of it is in a rush. western europe fortunate, they did not for that. you know, they stu powers from, you know, going into a direct conflict in your brain. so, but i quote that this experience will serve as a, as a warning to other international players. anyway, we have to leave it there. thank you very much for your insights today. thank you.
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will ban in the european union. the kremlin. yup. machines. the state on russia today and split ortiz spoke mckibbin, our video agency, roughly all band on youtube. and we put the question, did you think it was with me? ah, with no one. no, sir. no, no. hon. hook, no, no. we'll go more shrill than what they should end up unit 73. 1 was a unique organization in the history of the world. what they were trying to do was
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to simply do nothing short and build the most powerful and most deadly biological weapons program that the world had ever known. a potent is the aggressor. today i'm authorizing the additional strong sanctions to day russia is the country with the most sanctions imposed against it. i know that's constantly growing a new senior, mostly mine or wish you were banding all imports of russian oil and gas new g a t. with regard to joe,
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by imposing these sanctions on russia has destroyed the american economy. so there's a boomerang with in the stories that shape this week, at least 4 children were killed in ukraine, artillery attacks on the internet to a public civilian casualties. merge grieving family struggles to do the pain a fellow a . 7 on the campaign trail, former japanese prime minister, and so all of a died after being shot by and gunman and the party's over the boys told me, you said you stepping down is partition prime minister. that's all.
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