talking here, my, all the leaderships, the address lines are clear. ah, however, the lawsuit of these, ah, and the desert of these hasn't become problematic in the past 6 months since february 24. that tightrope walking is done by russia. ukraine udall. i united states, china, india, ah, every other country is doing this tightrope. box number one. number 2 is the water preparation i o be heard of the song, the russian general saying by march 5th to they lined up be all operations special operations. however, we are still looking at those of, you know, create campaigns. and there is a huge logistics build up that is necessary. national mobilization is necessary

or any kind of company. and they'll be also seen the router to success of grown law fish. in this conflict i into here here for a 2nd because i know you have 2 other points to mention, but on this point of, you know, russian general supposedly mentioning some deadline where he's, you hear that because i'm a russian, i follow the local media very, very attentively and i think one of the specific features of this operation is that both the government, you know, i'm in the kremlin, the leadership of latimer putin as well as his army circles. they didn't send any deadlines from the south for this specific reason of not limiting themselves. so where is this idea of them on the operation being too long comes from i'm well, i read this read your saw this video in kilogram by

russian gender. and the quick outcome of the wall. and of course there was a mention of our b, a minimum possible agenda that he's the ukrainian neutrality medical expansion and no ballistic decided deployments by the nato in the russian borders. and he was just one of the generals because we can take it as his expert or private opinion because as i'm sure you would agree that nobody can predict the outcome of the war or the ration over over a military operation at the, at the side. and we seem it's trajectory change a couple of times because there was initially a move towards peace talks in turkey. and then this strategy on the western part seemed to have changed with more and more ours being santia crane. so if i were to

ask you, how long do you think it's going to go for russia, he's the one of the best military forces in the or it used to be a 100 to so we tune them and it has a lot of just forces and military operations have been 100. yes. if you have to trace back from does our discussions who have built the napoleon in the french war? and so then you cumulatively take all this, russia, he's image of military power and we have already spent about 6 months. and ukraine is a very small country also the kind of found forces they have could have been wizard of, in the missions cases it. so it is surprising for me the war dragged on for

a long time. i can't put it on point figure for the the deadline or a specific time frame. because as you mentioned, the weapons are coming from right. and the united states commented or are $2000000000.00 for this. and natal are commercial also supply material. so it looks like it more for long when i was trying to see the, the kind of logistics been necessary for this for long ball fish is a nightmare. they ammunition the full reference a spare parts. a lot of things are required for this kind of a credit with conventional and city torrance,

capabilities and bill for the day. this is another factor in any future off including the pattern one of course. and the 3rd lesson from this conflict, i would imagine, is the economic preparedness, especially in terms of comprehensive national power. this concept came up during the soviet times, the americans copied it. and everybody else today is copying this concept of comprehensive national power. this need to be built up before anybody is willing to go for a conflict. that's why russia is concerned, it see self sufficiency as a mass not only for war times, but also for the times of peace. because especially when you look the at the full back from this war and the destruction in production change sanctions that affect

not only russia, but many countries that have absolutely nothing to do with the conflict in your brain. isn't that actually one of the, you know, silver lining off of this bloody and horrible conflict that more and more countries are sort of looking into how to leave by their own means. and by that own wisdom and logic, rather than taking ready solutions and advice from the powers that be in the powers that be, that change the rules of the game as they go, as we have seen. because, you know, the rules of free trade and all those international agreements that are supposed to safeguard international trade, they're not functioning anymore. yes, i agree to proposition. what i was trying to enlist is one of the lessons that we learned so far as the economic preparedness in the light of day energy crisis. the full price is on the sanctions. they're becoming their

time wars and inflation in much of the rest of the or india is really tourist 7.8 percent inflation and many other countries are actually both b, b, a person trademarks. and so there is a possibility for recession along the recession. so i was just on routing to this economic consequences that the global community has to face. and this also suggest the disruptions in supply chain mechanisms all across. and obviously it will have an impact on it is already in this. ready i also wanted to say that this conflict, the special operation, had also resulted in the matter to all of the kind of

of the city that he is. so, one cannot simply say a whole one. this game at the moment, not at your war, is also very important. and this is where the conversations like this are important for us. so i was just building to this consequences of conflict. i would be totally that it is important to have those conversations and it's becoming hard to tell you increasingly more difficult because a channel like mine is blocked in on many western last social media. when you think about it, it's not just, you know, they were born in russia and the west, as you pointed out, the consequences of all discretion affect everybody around the world. not only because of russia actions, but also because of the western sanctions. now, can i ask you, in a situation like this, there is always

a question about who is to blame or who is to be held responsible. and americans, by an administration is blaming the russians not only for the war in ukraine, but also for their own inflation. but it is pretty clear to anyone who is advocated that the americans a point decided that the rest of the world can bear the consequences of them. punishing russia. do you think that's something that the world is ready to accept? do you see any changes in how the global politics called the global economy will be around in the future as a result of the americans and the west, in general, making a decision, a conscious decision to penalize everybody in the world because they want to punish russia if you're speaking about the owner of the countries down, either neutral or have been in the bank of the consequences of the contract, for example,

the global so much of the fuel prices is impacting on them. i would also say the vaccine distribution not related to this company because of the call they kind of make up. there is the united nations near to maxing distribution for the global salt developing countries, even that has been affected. partly because of this conflict. as the many western countries are already, the vaccines, they want to double vaccinate, triple vaccinate, or do vaccines a 5 times or 10 times. because until there's been a holding of these vaccines by the not the global lot. diversity is packaging this as a, a kind of a existential threat to them. but the majority of the countries are basically

looking at the impact of the energy prices, the food prices, inflation and you know, many of the issues, for instance, the, the middle east conflict, the city and conflict. the under development in africa, or in south america and asia. interestingly, none of these are being raised in the past 6 months. yeah. so, so that indicates that the whole narrative has been shifted to conflict in ukraine. and so that is more of the global assault, as we not hearing that, please listen to us. you know, we also exist. we have a lot of problems that need to be resort. and especially in terms of the enemy, the vaccine, just nobody is talking about this. so i think that is a if you're asking for the majority of the countries,

they're concerned about daily bread and bartel related issues rather than b. yeah. the conflict i so as such, i said we have to take a short break for the time being, but we will be back to this discussion in a few minutes station. ah, i mean to with this with you or is with you i'm with so we'll go long

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with, with, with a welcome back to well, the point where the street come come to poly professor of china cited at the gym or her little narrow university in your daily professor before the break, we were talking about the impact of this conflict on many countries. but you specialize in chinese affairs and i want to ask you specifically about china and india. because as much as these countries treat each other risk suspicion,

i think they reactive to this crisis in a, in a pretty similar way. both governments, as you said, what type type role, both governments benefit is greatly from buying oil from russia as discounted prices. i think it benefited much more than trying to think your supply of russian oil increase more than a times since the beginning of the year. how do you think this whole conundrum will influence the dynamic ben, this to asian, john i you began all of it to be sure from you talk to us to, to asia in the case of china and india. although we began almost at the same level, china in the growth rates as part of the form organizations program in 1978 till recently been growing it 10 percent growth rate.

now it just come down less than 3 percent. 4 percent, roughly. i want to call as medium high growth rates in the case of in your we just began with the growth rate. and we are expected to florida on 8 percent. and it is hard for a country like india to clock back much of growth rates. but we are doing the new schemes that are being proposed by the government of the day. the current aspect is you mentioned china. i mean there is a lot of conflict going on between the tool, especially july, june, 15 night 2020. we had about 20 indian soldiers killed, an estimated on accounting for chinese war killed in

this. the chinese government after 8 months declared about 4 people. in this conflict bart dos, new agency mention 45 people in china. so maybe somewhere between $4.00 to $45.00 or even beyond what is important is that be signed a lot of agreements. asana you mentioned about the russian agreements that the u. s . and the nato countries, china and india have signed several agreements, $993.00. the st. priority 1996 trans building measures in rehab for also the 2003. i'm not in the petrol agreement because b d c m, border defense ball person. i'm several of the protocols. i'm a bar to on june 15th to none of these matters really and the killing spree

rental on for a whole night that night. and we were actually because if they sign an agreement with china in future of what would be the consequence of this, like water, it happened on june 15th, i'd like to try to charge a lot of, lot of law going on. but i think you would agree that the amount of blood is i'm comparable to what we have now. it's in the russians and the ukranian, they extend of the cranium. conflict is far more terrifying. horrible. i mean, i say that as a russian with ukraine origins and i still have relatives in, in that country, is it, it's a huge pain and i think we will bear the consequences of it both economic, social and human consequences, moral consequences of it for they get to come, having said that, i think it's pretty clear that the americans are trying to utilize india in dire

rivalry with china through or through some other measures to sort of bring an indian more forcefully into the western camp. having seen how the americans can keep their promises, be it in afghanistan or even in ukraine. do you think india can rely, safely rely on the americans in maritime affairs and security issues, etc. well, in the target choir meeting, communist or more, the tor president biden. darn the ukraine and crisis is continental. and so it's not part of the quite agenda. so weren't he was trying to mention is bifurcated both of these and indian foreign policy. we have what we mention as soon as you can count on me. and as you know,

we follow the non alignment moment. before recently we insist on independence foreign policy and strategy on our end. and so i don't think the u. s. ingo nation should not be kind of exaggerating, like everybody is previously in russia. absolutely, even know china is heavily dependent on the american sci, the stock exchanges. moments. the might be national corporations that have invested in these countries is following the same path as the russians did since 91 and the chinese. and since 1978, i'm showing that anywhere, well, at least in anywhere in a good place, at least in the case of russian increasingly in the case of china. so do you think

it's really worthwhile for india to follow in these 2 countries? i know, basically i was trying to say that at any country which wants to modernize, especially in infrastructure, they need a lot of capital and i need a lot of technology and, and need a lot of, you know, the, the stock exchange is a symbolic gestures. and these are necessary for any country which are modernizing and china exploited this substantially since 1978. and so i was just mentioning that any country which wants to have these mortem gadgets, et cetera, we have to open up as this a part of the globalization. the larger picture i was trying to suggest that there is a conflict between china and india and then the defense minister of india,

rental muscle, in september 2018. these received 2 or 3 wanted, in order to counter china, india already us. so what i was trying to see is that shine get relations, did a lot of dept previously. i know that now and when that is a conflict with china, the know where to will fall for the sustenance, military sustenance and so on. our time is running out. i want to try to squeeze in one more question about the tigers. i am, i want to close chairman now the founder of the people's republic of china, who said was that when someone is trying to wake a tiger a he or she needs to make sure that it has a long and i see now clearly the washington is now trying to contain what they called containing china d thing, they use the stick as a matter for,

for the american strategy. the thing is 4 sided, and i do think it's long enough. oh, trust. i don't think the americans are contained in china. both china and america haven't g tool, as obama mentioned once in 2009. i think this is a misnomer that they are containing china, china contacting us. they have a $780000000000.00 trade in get our share. trade is $8000000000.00. china us trade is $780000000000.00. and every day prior to the time to make 6000 people cross off from the u. s, which kind of i said, well, so, and so there is no containment. the soviet union was contained by the u. s. there, there was no trade, no investment, no market, no contract. that doesn't exist between us and china. i don't think there is any containment. the chinese keep flagging this just as

a part of their defensive mechanism. bart, this is to put the americans in place by flagging containment pieces all the time. i don't think, in fact, china usaa relations are more stable and more having more strategic depth than us into relations or u. s. and i shudder. so i do that because, i mean it's not just the chinese for using it. it's also, it's in all american strategic documents that china is a major rival for them that needs to be that are also put in place. why do you think that americans continue with this pretty and friendly just for us? and it went on, not only under the trumpet, ministration is continues out under the, by the administration. in the recent times since leg trump, we have seen that kind of language. but even the chinese use the same language. chinese strategic experts use the same language as the u. s. dark doesn't really

disturb their trade investment people to contact. so what i was trying to say is this is not aren't in between time and less. they're heavily dependent on each other. and of course they can say anything, the longer telegram or the white house national security strategy creating or others. nevertheless, what is important is to have more dept in the u. s. period is $100000000000.00 on china, u. s. j doesn't just mention 708 and there is more chinese investment in the u. s. their total chinese investment in india is $8000000000.00 for a 16 trillion dollar economy. just about $8000000000.00 in our chinese investment outside is $1.00 trillion dollars. majority of dark or a large part of it is in the u. s. i in canada and europe. so

what i was trying to say is wondering about the, the statements given by the chinese ministers and it is your next part of the day that is a strategic depth between them. china, your trade is over $600000000000.00. and china's investment in c plus 17 countries is quite huge. italy, spain are all of those big countries. fortunately, greece and spain. the investment in these banks on board is now functioning in any of the countries with infrastructure projects. and i just wanted say that these are all, it's no words. we have to see hard facts before we say that it is in content for 2nd of all, we have to leave it there one. and one last thing that i would add is that there

was also a lot of interdependence in russia, western europe, or says they did not because that, you know, these 2 powers from, you know, going into direct conflict in your brain. so, but i quote that these experience will serve as a, as a warning to other international players. anyway, we have to leave it there. thank you very much for your insights today. thank you. and thank you for watching cold. again, will depart a with mm ah

a who is the aggressor today? i'm authorizing the additional strong sanctions today. rusher is the country with the most sanctions imposed against it. and number those constantly growing a list of questions as we speak on the bill in your senior, mostly mine, or wish you were banding all in ports of russian oil and gas news. i know they pay with joe by imposing these sanctions on russia has destroyed the american economy. so there is your boomerang

with germany, braces for and even more severe gas shortage. as russia says, it must turn off the north stream pipeline for maintenance. that's despite canada. finally, deciding to deliver a vital turbine for the route and previously hung up because of western sanctions. yet another power position where americans and 777 houses. well, here you have a number of shells. these are powered to judge cad. this is all burned by almost direct impact on examines abandoned ukrainian army positions on former dumbass front lines as gives forces retreat westward.