license 4 months ago, the logic of these decisions mirrors to one guiding their delivery many months after off comes revocation of our t license. it is a trial after conviction and our tease guilty of being russian and daring to voice a point of view and show facts unacceptable to the british political and media establishments. archie is not the only media outlet hit by sanctions as russian news agency. sputnik is also in the blacklist across the european union. earlier the european commission president proposed banning 3 other russian broadcasters. while in may, us announced it would stop providing broadcast equipment as well as technologies for russian state own channels. international editor of the morning, star newspaper steve sweeney considers the move, buy off. com and attempt to control the narrative in the u. k. this is in reality, this is state sponsored censorship on an all was unprecedented scale. this is the sign of a weak government. this is a government afraid of the truth and is afraid of losing control of the narrative.

the news is coming out of the region from the mainstream. western price isn't really reflecting the reality on the ground. i myself have been inside ukraine and i can tell you from 1st experience that the brit what's being relate to the british public. that certainly is in tune with what's happening. i was of course threatened, and when i was inside the country, i was threatened with execution. and there are other journalists, like even a canadian journalist who is also paid on the government list. i'm not sure how they're going to proceed with this and how are they going to impose any sanctions or any fines? seeing if they can't accept any payment in rubles, it can't broadcast on, on another channel. so, you know where we go from here is very clear, the use of sanctions to control the median narrative is an absolute clump down on press freedom. and we've seen this time and time again for the government, which insisted it, you know, that it stands up for the truth. but they, they're,

you know, they're centering the truth. that's the way the news goes for this. our stay tuned for more in just about 30 minutes with ah hello and welcome to cross top were all things are considered on people. washington's unipolar moment, ended years ago, unfortunately, and dangerously. the foreign policy blog has refused to come to grips with this new reality. this explains the increase tensions in europe, middle east, and asia, and the biggest loser is the west. ah

. to discuss these issues and more, i'm joined by my guest, glenn, these in oslo. he's a professor at the university of se or norway, as well as author of the book we supposed to be a propaganda in international politics. and in america, we crossed martin j. he's an award winning journalist and commentator general in cross outgrows. and the fact that means you can jump any time you want, and i would appreciate it. or i would start, i was going in oslo. um, you and i were in contact before we started this recording and you decide on the topic on the unipolar moment. well, how much to my surprise? well, tony blair, the former british prime minister, gave a big speech about dominance of the west is coming to an end. so what a interesting collision of perfect storms here for. so for our audience, what do you, what is meant by the unit polar moment you to pull out, or what does that mean? well again, this i think is major story of our time. because when the soviet union collapsed,

the world became unipolar. this means that there was only one central power in the world because during the cold war you heard it was bipolar and 2 centers. now under the uniform order, you only have one center which is united states which organizes the west, the collective hedge money. so and so this really immersed in 30 years ago, as the soviet union collapsed and preserving the unit polar distribution of power, became the foundation for your security strategy. for idea was that as long as the u. s. maintained its global hedge money, then there would be no rivalries between the great powers. and this was ever referred, rasa unit polar peace or hedge money is if you will. so the problem was, what many academics pointed out which was the uniform moment, would unavoidably be temporary because 1st of all, it would exhaust us resources to dominate the world. but 2nd of all, because maintaining youth dominance would depend on preventing the rights of other centers of power. one would expect the country says different, thus russia, china,

india, brazil, and others with increasingly corporate, with each other to balance off the united states because they see the united states trying to keep them down. well, as we see now, 30 years later, this predictions are coming to fruition that is the use of exhausting many of its resources under major powers are ready to create alternative security and economic infrastructure which is independent of the united states. and the question has always been, how would the u. s. respond? even brzezinski, remember who was could not be more of a former, yet he also recognized there was a dilemma. the u. s. can either facilitate or support a transition to multiple or order when the youth has a privileged position, or alternatively, you can fight all his rivals in a ground stand off to regain his former dominant position. now i think that because the west has linked the survival of liberalism and our values to hedge money, no negotiation. so what we now see is that your assistant resume confrontation with

many, emily russia in europe, china and asia and iran in the middle east. and so this is what we're seeing that is used to fight to restore is global hedge money. even though this does not seem very likely at all. well, you bring up a really good point learn. i mean, one of the things that, you know, in glenn gives a perfect explanation there. but is this an ideological thing? is it based on security? is it based on g o politics? because if it's ideological, then the west cannot lose. will. that is, everything goes against everything in history. empires rise and fall centers of power, move around. i mean, that is the nature of geo politics to all of time. and so the where seems because of its ideology that it is the end of history is a said go ahead mar. yeah, i think come, tony, we're having a wine about some western power way is connection isn't it? you must be doing over to $1000000.00. and co go because you question about

ideology. i don't know if that's the right word, isn't ideology, is it philosophy? it's the only model that the west had so long was that the huge power of a lease which controlled our politicians, you know, had a very singular view of the road which the petitions followed. you know, they look to poor countries and they said, are you pulling backward? i do have a huge democratic deficit. you know, are you in debt? do you need american aid and will you fall on the ground boots went to sam. and if countries around the world said yes to those 5, then they were welcomed and there was a huge body slam. you know, your, our kind of guy are kind of dictator or kind of leader. this is how americans sought in the west, followed with this doctrine. but i think a lot of it was about, you know, what we got now is we're so loses. this is the problem. we're losing our power and we don't really know how to deal with it. just just as a british empire, imploded to the end of the 2nd year,

the americans to know how to deal with this new scenario that china, iran, russia, india, these companies already forming, they really get their act together and creating a real opposition to america. so you know, how do we cope with in the long term? it's going to be casualties. can be low chest, something winding. but some, i don't think most of it is genuine. i think a little bit is just just the west. don't really coping very well with this new world order. it's interesting what martin just said there on glen, because if we frame it in ideological terms, well, a lot of what the western liberalism and that's going to spread means today. well, 1st of all, it's very daily into most of the world. this woke ism stuff and all about me, most of the world, scott, that is being just ridiculous. i mean, how do you build a coherent, prosperous society based on these ideas that the west is very forcefully exporting

right now? and i, as a result of what we've seen the global south, not condemning russia or it's military operation, ukraine. i think you can draw 2 conclusions. one, they don't take the west very seriously. any more. and number 2 and very importantly, they're not a rated bit anymore thoughts? no, i agree. no other well and another thing i think when the rest keeps talking about this is an attack on the rules based order. this becomes the role that this becomes a way of expressing, again, ideology as power. so they're saying, you know, we without western hedge money, you can't have the survival of example, liberalism. but i think it the rest of the world in there a bit critical because they see this is mainly as the power line behind. because when the west a soviet union and began to pursue this hedge, a monic liberal order, what it was to find us was giving essentially the rest is to give to that self an

exemption from international law. so keep in mind when they, when the rest brings up this principles of great principles, democracy, human rights is not used to limit the, the power of the state rather, it enables it. so for example, if most this concept of sovereign in a cause in which it was referred to democracy in human rights, the rest can interfere in domestic affairs. we can po governments by calling them credit resolutions. they for calling a 2 minute terry interventions, even severing territories of other countries. so there is this sense that liberalism has been so intertwined with the hedge among the concept that again, when we do speak about the west leadership, we see it as the guarantee for liberal values of the rest of the world. increasingly see liberalism as simply being a logical, talking point to justify money. so again, we can take both sides of the argument,

but it is quite interesting that this discussions aren't really being held in the west at the moment where the power of the west hedge funds disappearing. those are the same time the world is increasingly rejecting this liberal ideology which will justify the edge of money. what the you know, martin or well under the current administration to bite ministrations about democracy versus a ta chrissy or a real throwback to the bass demising. it went really no. um, no perspective on the reality is on the ground around the world. but then you know, joe biden, he, if we, if he takes on board is democracy versus a tar chrissy. he vis bump the are the crown prince of se rafia. i mean, what is there were other make of this year? i mean we're, we're, is the human rights. where is the democracy? where is the rules based order? i mean, it just, it is absurd in the whole world. sees this okay. as a glen glen touch from the point you said that these, these,

these incredibly seismic issues, these qualities that we cling onto out on since the best part of the last 7 years are really just talking points as absolutely correct. use that phrase they are. and the whole world is realized, it's not before, perhaps, if you go back and say only 15 or 20 years, you know, when the west meant huge decisions, it could, it could bank on a fair amount of his ex colonies in the global south and to support of un to support is on those days gone. you know now the west, the so called worse. what is the west to west is the you 2726 countries. and america and canada and the what, what is the west? what can it do now in with his huge subject, it's very much on his own. and it has to keep on banging his drum and going on about the liberal values. but the truth is, we don't even believe in this liberal values ourselves anymore. you know, democracy, free speech, human rights, just look at what we're doing to have people look at the junior sans case. you know, look at the number of journalists are being arrested in europe for reporting on the

war and ukraine. but role to that, the january 6 rioters. yeah. yeah. so you know that this, this edge that we had is gone. you know, we're looking at a new recent new world order. and china and russia are actually beginning to make very, to the whole. well, that is an alternative out, you know, i think the longer we go wrong though with these ideas, the law that the west is exposed to being more corrupt and corruptions. now, really a huge factor. now when we look at ukraine, when we look at china, i mean, how can you mentioned china without fighting family relations with deals going on there? how can you talk about ukraine without looking at what biden's family are doing in the ukraine? it's disgusting, and the only way that we read about these articles you read about this graph is from foreign journalists from the other side of this new world order from china, from russia, from turkey, from wherever, you know, we don't have just forgotten how to do the job and so we all shipping up to

something completely new. we don't really know what it's going to look like. but we are living in a new reality in america and its allies in europe. i'm no longer a dominant source anymore. they're going to have to take a backseat to a new economy, a new set of rules, and we're not behaving really very well about it with our attitude towards china, which shocks me actually so much religion see the so much chest beating and talk is a war how do you go to war, whether it was one of your greatest trading, thomas? it doesn't make any sense. the glen martin, the great pointer and it goes back to my original question here, is that this is just ideologically driven. it's not rationally, but it's, it's not, this is not assessing your assets and your strength and your ability to get what you want to mean. if they, these roasted glasses is itself limiting and they'll actually so humiliate, go ahead, good, 30 seconds. are we going to break? i think i'm going to sample this is exactly the chinese because the china could

easily be result. this could pack to this one china posey, like china, been very open. it will not intervene in taiwan unless the us over the line, the recognize this independence want to do it gradually about the one china policy, which sparks i need to differentiate them based on this, we're now making china and to me because it's predictably responding to a publication as we had already expected, so it is no different than nato expansion. propagation. and then you can reaction, gentlemen, we're going to go with your break and after that your break, we'll continue, our discussion will stay. ah, ah, a

a welcome back across stock were all things are considered on people? well, this is the home addition to remind you were discussing some real news. ah, let's go back to martin america's one of the interesting things about this unipolar moment, coming to an end, it has come to an end. and well, one of the big differences in looking at european politics and the crisis in ukraine is that it seems to me that that germany has finally completely abandon us

politic um billy brant, mama, the current government in germany no longer. i think it was a really broad talk about 2 different legs. one be able to stand on our stay in the west, but be able at the same time to reach out to the east. it seems like those days are over, and that is one of the accomplishments of washington in london. i mean, to finally break the relationship potent wanted since he came to power of having a good, vibrant relationship with germany. that seems to have come to an end, and i would say as a result, it is isolated europe because there's not a major power in europe. now there wants to reach out and out some kind of data, and we haven't used that word in a long time. with russia, go ahead, mark. no, i think we're a long way from it. it's not unfortunately because um, when you get into the heads of some of these western elise, you still believe they can play the war of attrition with russia. you see what they're not, they're not interested in any long term friendship or,

or deal with russia. you know, we like russia during johnson's period because he was poor and backward and nothing seemed to work. and they needed the help of them. america, at certain point, it was a little tiny window where yeltsin seem to be our guy, you know, soon student came in. so the build the economy, something going on like rushing rushes, a problem versus the threat rushes, creating these problems for us, you know, and what comes from that. what i noticed as a journalist is this package fear mongering which is delivered through the media. you know, we go this fear mongering, go now. sherman green is nothing new in the west. we've been doing it. you know, even go back to the days when the russell was young. man and nixon went to russia. the soviet union matching 60 who and came back with a so called deal rum sold and cheney, we're looking at him to say no, no, no, because there's new rush submarines which are not caustic, that hundreds of them just popped off the coast of america. and we couldn't, they couldn't get it into their heads because we couldn't detect the roster.

russian submarine newsome range. that doesn't mean that they're not in reality, they didn't exist. they want, but it's always press inflation. now the clean power night minutes, our film on grid. huge didn't stop the next administration for the ministration. someone correct me from wrong investing in today's billions of dollars in more miniature industrial compet kit to try and detect the so called non acoustic russian submarines which didn't exist the same things going on today. we've got more fear mongering over china. i know where it's heading. it's heading towards more military spending. that's the number one thing and it's, we've seen it in ukraine and i'm beginning to wonder skeptical jonas. that's kind of a graph for the best part of the study is i'm beginning to wonder whether big international, massive corruption is taking over here all of these a lead. so we elected as so good democratic leaders of all values of beliefs in

these, in this near liberalism, they actually pocketing huge amounts of money from these obstacles. we don't know where these arms go. we don't know, even we don't even see the receipts from lockheed martin and racism, you know, we don't even know they get delivered. you know, if years old as i am, you can probably remember reagan coming into the scandal with the conscience. you know, reagan use the photo war to cover up all this secrecy to create secrecy over basically selling arms. iranian, which is a legal taking $30000000.00 off around and taking $18000000.00 of that and giving it to the contras to $5.00 to $7.00 inches and the greg, it will go squiggly. go. he took off the hook, you know, for that because he used the father war to actually move dirty money around people in the worst of though very naive. they don't understand it. and the people did money. the people that did take the hall for it were pardoned of yes, i am the president of the and already and so we're going to quite good job now also,

i mean we, i hate in voting tony blair's name again, sorry, but i mean to knock about the, you know, the, the, the, the dominance of the west coming to an end. i mean, he, he was part of the, the tipping point. he was very much with agreeing to the legal war in iraq to the point isn't one thing i'm going is that the point about ukraine and the point about iraq and the point about afghanistan is dirty money. you don't keep money is all about these games. how do you move money around? how do you store dirty money? how do you save money and you cream dirty? my of huge arms contracts. a son said pretty much the same thing about afghanistan . he said, the point of us get guns done was not to finish a war winter war. it was create a sort of black zone where you could keep a little dirty money and keep everybody in check. you know, i was afghanistan, 2000 something. i british soldiers and one of the biggest or frustrations they had was i was show me the head cam video of while they were fighting taliban once on field. other people were collecting

a erin morphine on the other side and packing it away in it. and you know, so there was a little corruption there and i think when i see a new train i was dirty money. i see dirty money in china now, who's getting this money? who's actually profiteering going was wrong about the wrong iran contra fist. we still don't know today how those american arms companies got paid the $30000000.00, how they get paid. i think they will end up calling it the 100 by model glen. you're going back to the big picture of the end of the unit polar moment. i mean, are we in that vicinity trap right now? i mean, because, because i think we're all in agreement. yeah. it's a, is a combination of ideological possession and greed. okay. i mean, again, the snow was rift. i mean, it wasn't when it was the keep it going though. the whole thing is the keep it going. it looks like that's something they may try in ukraine. i don't think

they're going to be nearly as successful. that's why i think the pumping so much money in there, the of it now are you care? okay. and they'll be no accounting for it later. just like in afghanistan. so. so glen, i mean, are we in a trap right now with the westbound enough to, to maintain its ideological predominance because it's messianic b or turn to pores because everything's well loss of base. they've created a situation where either you win completely or you lose completely, but world history is everything's in the middle. it doesn't usually get the extremes. go ahead one. no, i agree, but it also depends how one would define the objectives. i mean, if you look at your credit in russia, they were actually moving towards a little diplomacy. we're moving forward towards disagreements as we know in march . and again, what's not the student is that the ukrainians walk away from it because the united states and the case person to do so, arguing that you know,

you can win on the will give you all the work. and of course there's no, no one of the things today that you can come to see about still this, the strategy is give you credit weapons, but what they need for what they call the fee process. it's going to continue this going and again from the u. s, congress no, and media you comparing this idea over and over again. this is an opportunity as well to bleed ross or dr. second nomic military power. so i think this idea of dragging to the war is, is part of the part of the goal. and it's also good for our minds to building because what the united states, as a key military power is a lot of influence comes from having this enduring conflict. i mean, the united states been trying to get the economic and political it was over the years, 4 years. only now with this war going on europe and bending over

and doing what the americans want to do. and i think you can also see the same possibly in asia, military conflict begins to intensify or escalate some pressure rooms with china. maybe it can mobilize some of the neighbors of china where we do not have states. and obviously, the reason i'm saying it's because we sing the song list as well. there's a grievance now which by made in israel and then going to saudi arabia. this is to build up the rhetoric against iran. now, why would you like to do this? well, obviously this can open up for an attack on iraq. however, it would also be simply the short use leadership influence. and the reason for having this conflict there, they have to look to our students for leadership and that's the source of influence in the region. so again, i am not sure what else to explanation for because pursuing a conflict with us, russia, europe, china, and asia, and iran. now in the middle, is

a major war there. if you can possibly fight on 3 front. so i think this, having this slow burning conflict is minimum, might be a strategic objective, you know, a martin exactly in, in the, the 3 regions that i have mentioned in my, my introduction. i mean, if you have comp you have risk inflation or crisis, inflation is itself the justification to do to be involved in, in these, in these areas here. because i have always said like in the middle east, b, u. s. in the, in the west got out of the middle east, they would make their peace. it might be very turbulent and might be very violent, but they would come to terms ok, the same thing in asia. but when you have the western powers, primarily the united states, that is it, it creates a, a slippery slope not to make hard decisions. okay. and on top of it, i mean,

you know, we, glenn was saying here, i mean, the, you know, the west has weight dominance in europe, but it's a pretty hollow prize, isn't it? i mean, it, germans are not going to be freezing in the winter. what kind of price is that? i really that we the marshall plan need americans to fly in d, c, threes, and drop food over a citizen, europe. that's where we're heading. i mean, the germans now have to rush and the hot water that they can only have 2 baths a week or something. one of the richest countries in the world for the 1st time. and that is true trying to, you know, so this is worrying and when you can see the german news, the european union as well, the power is, you know, i think when we look at the west in general, and we talk about middle eastern button in saudi arabia the last couple of days in the 1st punch, punch, what have you call it? there's a lot of smoke and mirrors. there's a lot of b s out there, frankly. and this idea that the america is going to stand by israel and we're going to defeat iran. i mean, for god's sake, what planet are you on, man?

who is going to take on iran in their right mind? and when did you really germans push spider? each is shrunken seat and he just kept saying, well here as a loft or maybe would probably work. nonsense. absolute nonsense. and the interesting thing is, is that we in the west of care this, this, this, this, this, this fear mongering going in the middle east for a long time now because his great business for us is great business for arms countries. some companies, you know, and, and, but the, it's fake, it's completely fake, and you only have to look very closely at the relationship between saudi arabian around how it's becoming slightly cooler. and, you know, these 2 neighbors are actually starting to open up by chance towards each other. you know, they're both lining up to join bricks. how can they be enemies? they're both going to be in a new train or. ready i was saying here, it's one big rift here. ok. all right. german run out of time. want to take my guess in our slow and america. and i think our viewers are watching us here. are

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