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ah ah hello and welcome to cross top where all things are considered on people about washington's unipolar moment, ended years ago, unfortunately, and dangerously. the foreign policy blob has refused to come to grips with this new reality. this explains the increase tensions in europe, middle east, and asia, and the biggest loser is the west. ah . to discuss these issues and more, i'm joined by my guest, glenn,

these and in oslo. he's a professor at the university of southeastern norway as well as the author of the book, a phobia propaganda in international politics and america. we crossed martin j. he's an award winning journalist and commentator, or a gentleman crossed out girls and the fact that means you can jump any time you want and i would appreciate it. or i would start, i was going in our slow, i'm you and i were in contact before we started this recording and you decide on the topic on the unit polar moment. well, well, much to my surprise. so tony blair, the former british prime minister, gave a big speech about dominance of the west is coming to an end. so what a interesting collision of perfect storms here for. so for our audience, what he, what is meant by the unit polar moment, unilateral? what does that mean? well i get to this. i think the major story of our time because when the soviet union collapsed, the world became unipolar. this means that there was only one central power in the

world because during the cold war you heard it was bipolar 2 centers. now under the uniform order, you only have one center which is united states which organizes the west, the collective hedge money. so, and so this really immersed in 30 years ago, us to so we didn't collapse and preserving the unit polar distribution of power became the foundation for your security strategy. for idea was that as long as the u. s. maintained its global hedge money, then there would be no rivalries between the great powers. and this was ever referred, rasa unit polar peace or hedge money is if you will. so the problem was, what many academics pointed out which was the uniform moment, would unavoidably be temporary because 1st of all, it would exhaust you as resources to dominate the world. but 2nd of all, because maintaining you as dominance would depend on preventing the rights of other center. so our one would expect the country says different, thus russia, china, india, brazil, and others with increasingly corporate,

with each other to balance off the united states because they see the united states trying to keep about, well, as we see now, 30 years later, this predictions her coming to fruition dot is the use of exhausting many of its resources under major powers are ready to create alternative security and economic infrastructure which is independent of the united states. and the question has always been, how would the us respond? even brzezinski, remember who could not be more of a former yet he also recognized there was a dilemma. the u. s. can either facilitate or support a transition to multiple or order when the youth has a privileged position, or alternatively, you can fight all his rivals in the ground, stand off to regain his former dominant position. now i think that because the west has linked the survival of liberalism and our values to hedge money, no negotiation. so what we now see is that your assistant resume confrontation with many, emily rush in europe, china, and asia, and iran in the middle is

a business. what we're seeing that is use will fight to restore is global hedge money, even though this does not seem very likely at all. well, you bring up a really good point learn. i mean, one of the things that you know, in glenn gives a perfect explanation. there, but is this an ideological thing? is it based on security? is it based on g o politics? because if it's ideological, then the west cannot lose. will that is, everything goes against everything in history. empires rise and fall centers of power, move around. i mean, that is the nature of geo politics to all of time. and so the where seems because of its ideology that it is the end of history is fukuyama said go ahead mark. yeah, i think come, tony, we're having a wine about some western our way is collection isn't it must be done over $2000000.00 co go. but just your question about ideology. i don't know. that's the

right word or is it in ideology? is it philosophy? it's the only model that the west heart so long was that the huge powers of a lease which controlled our politicians, you know, had a very singular view of the world, which the politicians followed. you know, they look to poor countries and they said, are you pull him backward? i do have a huge democratic deficit. you know, are you in debt? and do you need american aid and will you fall on the ground boots, uncle sam? and if countries around the world said yes to those 5 than they were welcomed and there was a huge body slam, you know, your, our kind of guy are kind of dictator or kind of leader. this is how americans sought in the west, followed with this doctrine. and i think a lot of it was about, you know, what we got now is we saw loses. this is the problem. we're losing our power and we don't really know how to deal with it. just just as a british empire, imploded at the end of the 2nd world war, the americans to really know how to deal with this new scenario that china, iran,

russia, india, these companies already forming, they're really getting their act together and creating a real opposition to america so you know, how do we cope with in the long term it's going to be casualties. can be low chest, something winding. but some, i don't think most of it is genuine. i think a little bit is just just the west. don't really coping. ready well, with this new world order, it's interesting that what martin just said there, on glen because if we, we frame it in ideological terms. well, a lot of what the western liberalism and that's going to spread means today. well, 1st of all, very daily, and most of the world this woke isn't stuffing all about me. most of the world, scott, that is being just ridiculous. i mean, how do you, bill the coherent, prosperous society based on these ideas that the west is very forcefully exporting right now. and i, as a result of what we've seen the global south,

not condemning russia or it's military operation. ukraine, i think you can draw 2 conclusions. one, they don't take the west very seriously. any more. and number 2 and very importantly, they're not a rate of it any more thoughts? no, i agree, no other way. and another thing i think when the rest keeps talking about, this is an attack on the rules based quarter. this becomes a role. this becomes a way of expressing, again, ideology as power. so they're saying, you know, we without western hedge money, you can't have the survival of example, liberalism. but i think it the rest of the world in their bit critical because they see this is mainly as the power line behind. because when the west africa lapse of soviet union, they began to pursue this hedge a monic liberal order. what it was to find us was giving essentially the rest is going to give itself an exemption from international law. so keep in mind when they,

when the rest brings up this principle, so great principles, democracy, human rights is not used to limit the they're the power of the state, rather, it enables it. so for example, if almost this concert goes sovereign in a court in which it was referred to democracy, human rights, the rest can interfere in domestic affairs. we can po governments by calling them credit for lucian's, for calling of human a. terry interventions, even severing territories of other countries, so that there is this sense that liberalism has been so intertwined with the hedge among the concept. that again, when, when we do speak about the west leadership, we see it as the guarantee for liberal values of the rest of the world. increasingly see liberalism as simply being a logical talking to justify money. so again, when can take both sides of the argument and it is quite interesting that these discussions aren't really being held in the west at the moment where the power of

the west federal mom is disappearing. thus at the same time, the world is increasingly rejecting this liberal ideology which will justify the badge money. what me you know, martin or will under the current administration to bite ministrations about democracy versus a ta chrissy or a real throwback to the bass demising. it wouldn't really know um, no perspective on the realities on the ground around the world. but then you know, joe biden, he, if we, if he takes on board is democracy versus the tar chrissy. he vis bump the are the crown prince of suffolk rafia. i mean, what is there were other make of this year? i mean, you were, where's the human rights? where is the democracy? where's the rules based order? i mean, it just, it is absurd in the whole world. sees this okay. as a glen glen touch from the point you said that these, these, these incredibly seismic issues,

these qualities that we cling onto our gun since the best part of the last 7 years are really just talking points as absolutely correct. use that phrase they are. and the whole world is realized before, perhaps if you go back and say only 15 or 20 years, you know, when the west meant huge decisions. it could, it could bank on a fair amount of his ex colonies in the global south, and to support of new and to support his of those days gone. you know, now the west, the so called worse. what is the west to west is the you 2726 countries, and america and canada and what, what is the west? what can i do now in with his huge subject, it's very much on his own. and it has to keep on banging his drum and going on about the liberal values. but the truth is, we don't even believe in the liberal values ourselves anymore. you know, democracy, free speech, human rights. just look at what we're doing to have people look at the junior sand case. you know, look at the number of journalists are being arrested in europe for reporting on the

war and ukraine, but role to that, the january 6 rioters. yeah. yeah. so you know that this, this edge that we had is gone, you know, we're looking at a new recent new world order. and china and russia are actually beginning to make very, to the whole. well, do that is an alternative out, you know, i think it was the longer we go wrong though with these ideas, the laws of the west is exposed to being more corrupt and corruptions. now, really a huge factor. now when we look at ukraine, when we look at china, i mean, how can you mentioned china without fighting family relations with deals going on there? how can you talk about ukraine without looking at what biden's family are doing in the ukraine? it's disgusting, and the only way that we read about these articles read about this graphs is from foreign journalists from the other side of this new world order from china, from russia, from turkey, from where, you know, we don't, journalists have just forgotten how to do the job and so we all shipping up to

something completely new. we don't really know what it's going to look like. but we are living in a new reality in america and its allies in europe. i'm no longer a dominant force anymore. they're going to have to take a backseat to a new economy, a new set of rules, and we're not behaving really very well about it with a rush to towards china. which shocks me actually that the so much religion see the so much chest beats in talk is a war. how do you go to war? whether it was one of the greatest trading, thomas, it doesn't make any sense. the glen martin, the great pointer and it goes back to my original question. here is it? this is just ideologically driven. it's not rationally, but it's, it's not, this is not assessing your assets and your strength and your ability to get what you want to mean. if they're, these roasted glasses is itself limiting and they'll actually so humiliate, go ahead. good, 30 seconds. are we going to break? i think good example of this is exactly the chinese because the china could easily

be a result of this cause back to this one. china policy, like china, been very open, it will not intervene in taiwan unless the us that's over their mind the recognize this independence want to do it gradually abandoning the one china policy which a ranch. and based on this, we're now making china enemy, because it's predictably responding to a publication as we had already expected. so it is no different than nato expansion propagation. and then you get a reaction general that we're going to go to with your break. and after that, we'll continue our discussion will stay, ah, for look forward to talking to you all. that technology should work for people. a

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let's go back to learning in miracle, one of the interesting things about this unipolar moment coming to an end, it has come to an end. and well, one of the big differences in looking at european politics in the crisis in ukraine is that it seems to me that that germany has finally completely abandon us politic over billy brant mama, the current government in germany no longer. i think that was a really broad talk about 2 different legs. one be able to stand on our stay in the west, but be able at the same time to reach out to the east. it seems like those days are over and that is one of the accomplishments of washington in london. i mean, to finally break the relationship, couldn't wanted, since he came to power of having a good, vibrant relationship with germany that seems to have come to an end. and i would say as a result, it is isolated europe because there's not a major power in europe now that wants to reach out and out some kind of data. and

we haven't used that word in a long time with russia. go ahead, mark. no, i think we're a long way from it at all. unfortunately, because when you get into the heads of some of these western elise, you still believe they can play the war of attrition with russia. you see that they're not, they're not interested in any long term. friendship or, or deal with russia, you know, we like russia during johnson's period because he was poor and backward and nothing seemed to work. and they needed the help of them. america, at certain point, it was a little tiny window where yeltsin seem to be our guy, you know, soon as prudent came in. so the build the economy, something going on like rushing rushes problem versus threat rushes, creating all these problems for us, you know, and what comes from that. what i noticed as a journalist is this package fear mongering which is delivered through the media. you know, we go this fear mongering go now. so memory is nothing new in the west. we've been doing it. you know, you can go back to the days when russell was young. man and nixon went to russia.

the soviet union matching 60 and came back with the so called deal rum sold. and cheney, well, if you're him say, now we've got these new rushes submarines which an acoustic, that hundreds of them just parked off the coast of america. and we couldn't, they couldn't get to get into their heads that because we couldn't detect the us and russian submarines newsome rings. that doesn't mean that they're not there. in reality, they didn't exist. they weren't there with vinny, it is always great inflation. yeah. the cleaner the power of nightmares, the power of fear mongering, huge about didn't stop the next administration for demonstration, somewhat correctly from wrong investing in today's and billions of dollars in more military industrial compet kit to try and detect the so called non acoustic russian mac, written submarines which didn't exist, the same things going on today. we've got more fear mongering over china. i know where it's heading. it's heading towards more military spending. that's the number one thing and it's we've seen it in ukraine and i'm beginning to wonder, you know,

as a skeptical journalist that's covered graft for the best part over 30 years. i'm beginning to wonder whether big international mafia style and corruption is taking over here are these leads to we elected as so called democratic leaders of our values of our beliefs in this, in this neoliberalism? are they actually pocketing huge amounts of money from these obstacles? we don't know where these arms go. we don't know even we don't even see the receipts from lockheed martin and rape him. you know, we don't even know to get delivered. you know, if, if you're as old as i am, you can probably remember reagan coming to power on the arms, the arm scandal with the conscious. you know, reagan use the fog of war to cover up all the secrecy to create secrecy over basically selling arms. iranians, which is a legal taking $30000000.00 off iran and taking $18000000.00 of that and giving it to the counters to $5.00 to $7.00 inches in aggregate all will cost from the illegal. he got off the hook even of

a noun for that because he used the fog of war to actually move dirty money around people in the worst of the over a night. they don't understand it in the, in the people that did take the hall for it were pardoned. yes, i am the president of the and already and so we go to quite good job. i'm also, i mean we, i hate in booking tony blair's name again, sorry, but i mean, i talk about the, you know, the, the, the, the dominance of the west coming to an end. i mean he, he was part of the, the tipping point. he was very much with the, the agreeing to the illegal war in iraq to the point is laser. one thing i think is that the point about ukraine and the point about iraq and the point about afghanistan is dirty money. you don't keep money is all about these games. how do you move money around? how do you store dirty money? how do you save that money? you cream dirty my of huge arms contracts. a son said pretty much the same thing about of kind of stuff. he said, the point of us got against him was not to finish

a war winner war it was create a sort of black zone where you could keep a lot of dirty money and keep everybody in check. you know, i was after minister in 2000 something i british soldiers and one of the biggest or frustrations they had was there was show me the head come video of while they were fighting taliban once on field. other people were collecting a heroine, morphine on the other side, and packing it away in it. and, you know, so there was a little corruption there. and i think when i see an ukraine, there is 30 money. i see dirty money in china. yeah. who's getting this money? who's actually profiteering going back to room? nobody rolling iran, contra fist. we still don't know today how those american arms companies got paid the $30000000.00. how do we get paid? i think they will end up going at the 100 by model glen, you're going back to the big picture of the end of the unit polar moment. i mean, are we in at the cities trap right now?

i mean, because, because i think we're all in agreement. yeah. it's a, is a combination of ideological possession and greed. okay. i mean, again, as there was a rift, i mean that wasn't when it was the keep it going though, and the whole bonuses, the keep it going. it looks like that's something they may try in ukraine. i don't think they're gonna be nearly as successful. that's why i think the pumping so much money in their big hub, it now or you can okay. and they'll be no accounting for it later. just like in afghanistan. so, so glen, i mean, are we in a trap right now with the westbound enough to, to maintain its ideological predominance because it's messianic b or turn to pours because it everything's well loss of face. they've created a situation where either you win completely or you lose completely, but world history is everything's in the middle. it doesn't usually get the extremes. go ahead one. no, i agree, but it also depends how one would define the objectives. i mean,

if you look at ukraine in russia, they were actually moving towards a little diplomacy. we're moving forward towards disagreements as we know in march . and again, what's not the student is that the ukrainians walked away from it because the united states and the case person to do so, arguing that you know, you can win on the will give you all the work. and of course, there's no, no one of the things today that you can come to see about the strategies as much weapons, but what they need for what they call the fee process. it's going to continue. it is going to get it from the u. s. congress nolan, the media, you comparing this idea over and over again. this is an opportunity as well to lead ross or dr. a 2nd nomic military power. so i think this idea of dragging to the war is, is part of the part of the goal and is also good for building because what the

united states, as a key military power is a lot of its influence comes exactly from having this enduring conflict. i mean, the united states been trying to get the economic and political influence over the years, 4 years. only now with this war going on europe and bending over and doing what the americans want to do. and i think you can also see the same possibly in asia, military conflict begins to intensify or escalate some pressure rooms with china. maybe it can mobilize some of the neighbors of china with united states. and obviously, the reason i'm saying it's because we sing the song list as well. now, which by made in israel and then going to saudi arabia. this is to build up the rhetoric against iran. now, why, why would united states do this? well, obviously this can open up for this really

a tax on your however it but also be simply sharp. us leadership includes in the middle east by having this conflict there. they have to look towards us for leadership and that's the source, an influence in the region. so again, i'm not sure what else the explanation to because pursuing a conflict in russia in europe, china and asia and iran, now in the middle east, a major war that if you could possibly title 3 from. so i think this having this slow burning conflict, it's might be a strategic objective. yeah, well martin, exactly. in the, the 3 regions that i had mentioned in my introduction. i mean, if you have come, you have risk inflation crisis inflation. it is itself the justification to do to be involved in these, in these areas there. because i have always said like in the middle east to be us

in the, in the west got out of the middle leave. they would make their peace. it might be very turbulent, it might be very violent, but they would come to terms ok, the same thing in asia. but when you have the western powers, primarily the united states, that is, it creates a slippery slope not to make hard decisions. ok. and on top of it, i mean, you know, when glen was saying here, i mean, you know, the year again, the west has complete dominance in europe, but it's a pretty hollow fries. and germans are going to be breezing in the winter. what kind of price is that? we did that we did a marshall plan, need americans to fly, and d, c threes, and dropped through days over a citizen europe. that's where we're heading. i mean, the germans now have to rush and the whole water, but it can only have to boss a week or something. one of the richest countries in the world for the 1st time and city is to try to visit, you know, so this is worrying and when you can see the, germany's, the, what the european union world power is. you know,

i think when we look at the west in general, and we talk about middle eastern biden in saudi arabia the last couple of days and the 1st punch is punch. what have you call it? um, there's a lot of smoke and mirrors. the love be ourself there, frankly, and this idea that america is going to stand by israel and we're going to defeat the iran. i mean, for god's sake, what planet are you on, man, who is going to take on iran in their right mind. and when it is really germans push fighter, eat each is shrunken seat, and he just kept saying, roger as a loft or maybe would probably what you're gonna nonsense. absolute nonsense. and the interesting thing is, is that we, in the west of kept this, this, this, this, this, this fear mongering going in the middle east for a long time now because his great business for us is great business for arms countries. um, companies, you know, and, and, but the, it's fake, it's completely fake and you only have to look very closely at the relationship between saudi arabian around how it's becoming slightly cooler. and, you know, these 2 neighbors are actually starting to open up by chance. talk to each other,

you know, they're both lining up to joint bricks. how can they be enemies if they're both gonna be in a new train or. ready and then i was saying here it's one big grift year. okay. all right. jasmine would run out of ammo and i think my gets them are slow and america and i think our viewers are watching us here. are the see you next time remember? ah ah oh the wrong one, i just don't know any world that you have to save out disdain because the advocate and engagement equals the trail. when so

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