to these conditions, you want to get rid of those ties, nature of ties, vantages, ties that were billed for decades in energy logistics and supply chains and transfer communications. well, fade is up to you. we are not going to impose ourselves on you, but when you will complete this pro, it's as if you would be able to complete it a lot more with the profit broker. so which is impossible, which would go to the stories. it will cost you dearly for a future development of european economy. then please don't ask us to return back to any agreements because you prove that you are unreliable. and we can't make any strategic investments. considering the development of our country and many of its external ties, when we cannot plan, it, had that coupon based on going with such a partner as we are going to have different partners. and we all the ways you had

them in the east, in the south convenient the property, another continent. but now when the sharing of the west and now where an external economic ties drastically decreased the share of other partners and willing praise . what should that should and as for those trends that we can see now in europe is that we have some especially cuz it in yeah, it is also irresponsible from the point of view of explaining the reasons to the people. why is this cried is his happenings hold to saying, but i have doubt that you want to restrict gas supply along the north dream due to the political reasons, not due to the technical reasons. so he has no doubt we, even though the fact that we were naming a lot of times and were brands have been talked about basically, and they show that europe systematically consistently decrease the capacity of north stream one. and then so the loud noise from 2 pending speaks even and that

you were introducing restrictions you see on using nord streams. after all the investments have been made and girls can not be changed. investment rules cannot be changed at that stage for by the european commission and seized it. and they did that instead of 100 percent of that pipeline capacity. they restricted the pipeline with hopital, off its volume books, and there were a lot of other things so that you'll do my work. so not so, and speaking about any accusations. now we are blamed for using hunger as a weapon, or solomon or lane is doing that. i will get myself into the congo starvation and cold. so shanida general. oh, willy frost. and now i have the general wheat and with central heating turbo deal with the group of u. s. secretary variable to thrasher. it said recently that the us will not allow russia, china,

or any one else to change international. and looking on the cruise that were approved by every one of the just like say know those like really would be coord voice with brooks as legal. and then they said that we would not allow russia to use economic integration processors as a weapon to the below. i think that's really going very far so with beats, ab re, other things that they used to say, but that's them organizing because they have no other explanations for their theories. for the court. you mentioned green energy and the transition with and you said that some eastern european countries are, are not happy about some of her, some parts of the western agenda like on gender. right. i mean gender minorities and things like that. well, you're an see, very experienced politician and maybe some things are more clear to you. i would have separate, not experts,

don't you said that they come up with this agenda. they thought of the green energy, jenn me too. and are dead. somebody a multiple gender is and the gay, right? they now i have some issues with math because minorities can stay deem her math grade can call mother is a mother's or breastmilk. they can't say breast milk anymore. so people are asking these questions. so what is the idea behind it? because everybody thinks that somebody is behind it and that will benefit someone, but we can figure out who benefits from this. what do you think who is behind that? and let us got to remember spoken with morgan. if we could speak about what's such him of, of soon accessible to us, we can't even when he was more get endorse shoes and understand why they're doing this. it's impossible to understand why. if a person has any of those sit hampton says, why shouldn't he or she bill app alone with that in the lab than will close the

deal? it's do dad on their own. why should it become a banner you as well as slogan with any movement with the gentleman, her husband, why presidency and chris secretary, newly pointed for a secretary says, i'm black and i'm liz. have been period that's absolutely pushing to this because they only think and i'm not the one who came up with that because i'm reading the lot. and i'm also interested in how the western which does it anybody or to the right is philosophies are evolving. so, and some people say that, that you shall, skeleton, 1000000000 or local, show whatever the house, which in this golden 1000000000 on will who are on the banking, all the decisions the want to make the population of the earth last because i guess can, we would not have enough for everyone is our dana's humorously, you know, shanowsky used to say, and he also used to say is that there is, should be, if you were a vase. but when he was saying bad in the soviet union times when we had church or

food at the top, some commodities. so he was making jokes about that. but one of the explanations that di, well brandon, some western source is a little cool. that's exactly it with it makes sense. mutual additional them from hartman, sorry what of of it doesn't really make sense because oftentimes they are begun actually making sure that it's, which is this way. africa and nigeria, they're growing, but that golden 1000000000 is actually shrinking. posterior mo, from student book on it, that they thought when you who stomach was mighty can actually, which grew a little garcia. by the time they gone to get there, look at though hollywood actors, everybody had now has a transgender child or a non binary child. so they're starting with some soldiers just below. well maybe it's part of their glenn too well, one of you, yes, i was could share last. i don't know. i you, when you're sad that i couldn't explain that clearly in sense, humbly,

but that one of the versions psy gadson with some kind of conspiracy theories. so i just told you about that when the should that the doctor for that are to hold on before the special military operation and now the army. but i mean think that they won't be able to manage without us. and we now see that, that they're actually going back on some of the sanctions looking at the thought of the new sanctions that they just passed. and it was, it was that new. thanks. did they roll out new sanctions or did they actually cancel some of the previous ones? but what if they can live and from our solve all the problems without out it can be live without our energy, maybe not next winter by the winter after that. or if they started using north stream one never start using north stream you. is that a possibility? what do you think about that possibility? only separate stone as for the dank sanctions package you want or those sanctions

or selecting sanctions. so it's both more because they are within the message, then we have no more means to deal and damage to us. and now they have to do with thinking about why they have done and why did they in fact on them. so now finally they have started considering that so that's why they introduce some clarifications. the way i was that allowed them to serve is the russian food experiencing them for month. and we have been saying that we were the one to be blamed for food cries, and that food like fertilizers, are not to sanctions over function again. so broncho stop, we have, you know, you're trying to get out of that. so cell your food. i was to me and we were saying that, yeah, it was food and fertilizers are not sanctions that a who, but insurance shipping danica thought it would take about an hour of bachelor's

noise that are supposed to and are foreign born and war and vassals, that aren't supported too, and are rushing forwards to carry those commodities. and that was sanction almost right away. so facilitating the process of the new but the silvers, when they're lying to i thing that we're, it's now the ones who did that in some to you still still the want to drag the secretary general of the un into the games when you got really worried about who cried as he came to moscow, he met and he suggested it backwards. so there is a brush and grain, but he has to be freed from those artificial illegitimate british junior frictions that up mentioned. there is the training grain that should be in the mind. it was over by cooper and he suggested that package deal. so okay, to leave it all right, you're good terrorist and we'll do the put the expense was made the us to leave,

to hold the can this impediments of on the out of your grain and you will agree with turkey and others to do mind the black sea to allow the grains out and we said, well, they come to mind the black sea without them. but if you want to do that, we are ready. and he was promoting the fact that the deal and our colleagues last week went to east and bowl to agree on how these might work. and they agreed on some phasing principles in accordance with the wages of the ukrainian brain will be the cynical export. and when our delegation reminded me of the 2nd part of this package deal, so plans think about that. he answered, refused category. girls. can you go to sleep in the un delegation that you were modestly getting silence. and yesterday was send a message to the un secretary general and what is happening. it was your initiative labs for deal with the credit part. and then we will deal with the russian part. but that's so the new bristol allusion control is anymore. but right now is the

fact that the people, so dishonest people who are involved in that high level politics, i'm sure that the secretary channel is under a huge pressure from the us, from the okay, who are sitting in the secretariat around him holding positions of the deputies with his uniform and they have private time basically they structure and they use it in their interest, which is sad. what is the technical side? oh, thank you. how do you the goal around applying this pressure? what are they doing? just explain it to regular people, but he has the least. i don't seem to use like a personal like mailing because when ambassador is for our building during the general assembly, they approach them and they said, we introduce the resolution against russia. don't forget that you have a bank account in the hatton and your daughter is going to stanford. you knew that

that's something similar. i think here they are not that route. and that at the one that she opened was open about that bed. the most of the employees in the u. n . r can each to a, from the, was it because the number of the secretariat shows that it depends on the fees that you pay, which contributions that humane n, for in a lot of cases need around the table. they are not as neutral as a genius. just deleted in the un charter. we are in the provisions on the secretariat, but that's life. i'm just stating at. that's how it has always been profitable. much of the menu you can you do how they apply pressure? look, i thought it was the 1st question. how do we apply, transferred to have a really bad ignore the stream?

what if they are able to say no to all of that? just as the hypothetical speaking, m, i think we are now torn between this desire and you because to show by this not to show in any way that they made a mistake, and that really believes they will do it every way they can because they have no other way, basically the opposition for and in all stress. so they're raising their voices. now there is the austrian freedom party. there's not really welcome in brussels, but it's easy mindset, but it's, and other countries. there is those invoices that are asking why are we doing that? why can't we find compromise and many people, how this question work? because there is no perception in the developing countries that the roger crossed some brad line because because they remember what americans

eating the rag, what they did. and again, it's done while they didn't leave the n 0 in yugoslavia in 1999. but it will please you with no wordings. so i think it comes into this. so she was saying that the american entranced, are harmed. glad to do something about it. no 8 years over at tampa to find a peaceful solution can set 1000 kilometers from the american shares. they were bumping, release con, praising leveling, grazing to the ground. all this said is no one in europe. evan said how bad it is. motto providers without having to protect americans living on not in those territory and tried and in our case it's different. it's an actual threat, not some made them threat to grab your release, take time to call us over the ocean. and you put in that amount of,

we've been saying that for years, don't turn ukraine into anti russia, don't we? who are you doing to very, to create direct me luxury of the threat to our security q. and so coming back to this question about europe, if you all of a sudden i don't think that it's in their interest to stop old times, we balance and just got to cut off all the times. we send to use liquefied natural gas that the americans were trying to sell them to make them kick edge. i was thinking about where it's worth, but okay, let's call it that. so that would be some, some here is x for researches are saying that economy, economic welfare of germany was not a huge me american. i was tied to accessible cheap brush in energy

because it did it and they will change it to ellen g. well, yes, it's more like similar commodity because well, my plan is blade where it's so you hit that with the property because i but you can only get it from there buying from there. and then l g, you can sell it anywhere else. but when in asia, demand was higher, americans were selling allen g there because they got more money for that. and because i was looking at doesn't only have to do with higher prices, but also bound charge. and you said you could emerge from us at any time and if they do that and so we're can you and then we would have no problem. that doesn't sound that due to why they do with the north strain to the speeds on the we are ready to launch it. so, very pressuring that my blind button from your people to percent of the capacity of the volume on the lifeline brick plan. so we now use them for internal

consumption for heating for the chemical industry and for other industrial goals because we are going to re orient you some days. we've no significant problem for ourselves. we have buyers, we have less demand that i'm in and inside the country wells to one to develop more chemical industry and to get to find it. and thousands of towns and villages don't have gas switches. so it will be up to them and will be there are choices and we should not. and no one is trying thing god who to build up any games that are based on the possible probable or any desire to go back to the sedation that we had hop a year ago when all those supply chains good, be rebuild again?

no, they'll change. but in the way i see insurance, they should be with no problem and we should build new ones and that would be reliable. that's what we are doing now. this quarter north south from st. petersburg to the indian ocean from india to vladivostok. there so little surprise for a number of projects that goes to sickness, deserves that you are now being implemented to chrome, facebook lukea. we've closed at some point during all of a sudden says okay guys soon. so we got carried away. we are interested in some economic trade relations lamps restored. please dies. i think if that's the case, felt that we should not put them away. we should just not see at how profitable it would be for us. humans that ask you to settle is of course they are discuss, wife, they won't take us again, but we still have time. you talked about diversification ah, ship of our early part of our partnership. we spoke about on china and ain't

a and now you're flying south to africa. what are you going to do there? it would be if you can hear that maybe in a few words, but seen bedrooms in a nutshell what you're going to do and what you expect from that visit. so it was good cuz we have some good relations with apricots in soviet times in the soviet union was a good leading this movement. let's see. we're close also the colonization. we were supporting in their struggle for freedoms, a new system over it. and as i knew some of the sedan we held them to build independent nations to sort of build their economists, hundreds of enterprises were build better. now sir, as doug days, it sold the foundation foundation of the economies of the african nations, lot of african nations. and we are leading base movement afford to make this said to colonization church as an inherent part of the, of international law on national life will. did you credible sales?

cassandra was a period when the soviet union was wells, could figure out collapsing. there was the russian federation that emerged us the 3rd were the urgent problems, not in africa, much closer. first of all, inside the raj iteration. but for many years now we have been re storing using our presence with him pretty good african services today, new reciprocating. so we've never taught them anything, would never force them to do anything. well, always help them to bridge all the tasks and to leave and their company the way the wanted for. well, they do think that we taught them, but in the good way we didn't lecture them, was that it was we were helping them to, to the goals that they were setting for themselves. we were never saying, don't be friends with america or anyone else. yes, we didn't lecture them, but we did not lecture them, unlike americans who travel across africa. and they said, we don't talk to russians, gone to talk to chinese because they have their own agenda even if they were free

times with years. and we always had mutual once a year and war 102 years ago, foreign minister visits african countries we are trying to planet swayed to cover as many countries as possible within a period of 2 or 3 years. 2 years there will be egypt, gander, and republic of congo, and us used to in all the countries. we have a good for nations and we have good economic relations. the g is our number of the partner. number one in africa is about $5000000000.00. the trade over and we are building the 1st nuclear power station and power plant. and we're creating russian industrial zones. and as soon as channel $40.00 to $50.00 missed on the and it is becoming even more promising within the context of that of the decision that was made last year by the african union about creating the free trade zone on the continental. so the decision has been made already and so now it both take some

time to agree on details on fees on terry it's, it's know that it will be used within this joan, but for russia, but as an emerging growing partner of africa, she could be profitable beneficial to increase our trade turnover and investment on us volume's could only perform, but we have a minus to faker. it's in conversion with the us, with china, with or being union and in the sense of those. we should work with our hard times without recalling that almost. and that i work on the 2nd summit, up front shopping of the 1st one to glaze and such in 2019 we plan the next one to take place next here, you know, just writing for example. i don't remember us. well, i guess not in a dance, so we will announce it at a later stage on the movement. at the same time we're going to hold the round table

is on trade on energy, on cyber security, on agriculture, on nuclear power. we know me for and we should increase the volumes of trade because we're speaking about 1400000000 people in africa and china india and need a powerful part of the modern world. and i guess it is the most promising market. there is the company. so this long term campaign and states that look into the future and the are the for building long term strategy in regard to africa because it is the continental, the future. and once again, we have a great political foundation of our relations mine and we have a good understanding if it comes from because thousands of africans are going to our colleges thing to go to our colleges now. then they assume offices and they're a government julie. so we need to use this human capital

a way to go to capital. we should turn that into economy. the classroom. can you say about our relations with as to lucy? equivalent 0 was are the former or let x as i guess x is, are rarely french. but do we have any true friends among our x's, including valor is what's happening in our relations with the relations with cossacks pound because we received different signals from barry of the shipping. and do you feel like gotcha, in something philadelphia haven't even tonight and even the fact that i have till sammy ask this question, do you think that it means that added that some of that is our fault, which is sort of ignored them and let them drift away towards europe, america, or maybe even turkey. the curriculum was there was a period out for the soviet union had collapses with when we had those, sir? yes, that you're still on the got the agreements from below scare. who should those state

that were not invited? there and so they were really hurt by this decision and i can understand them. but without us, for i would go from san know, trying to fix this situation to smooth it out of school. so that said before the end of the night in $91.00 and all my tea, we held them a special a summit, but still were so there were some bad blood with some kind of a burglar submitted post. first of all, both samplers in that and, and, and some procedures followed over and early. so osburg everyone gagged independent and sovereign, our leadership shampoo, did ella newman or given you money. they didn't pay a lot of attention to the school will not to allow was did you know she knew smashing or some kind of fog falling out? withou word. so close neighbors, close ally as you close partners with millennial history. oh, fall, coexist english. the other them wide,

i remember that because i was the 4 deputy foreign minister in 1992 to 1994 a book. i knew you until i moved to new york. the other new mouth in this building is up and i was in charge of international organizations and at some stage course, mr. concert, as you asked me to you put me in charge of the systems and you know, i didn't do that for a lot of time. but the situation was not really bright for us. i was then you need to show because well, obviously it was not the foreign ministry that made the decision about building policies in this regard. so him because that we started, the president administration was making a base decision amberlynn thought, where, what the girls in the news guys we were always living together and with the same language. and we went to same schools and we share the same tastes by, at the more severe missouri. so, okay, we will leave as we leave now and economies. so it was so intertwined this,

that it is the lead to the it has become so intertwined in those nor century. it's in the west which was not idle. if you look now at the central asia, but i know how many mormons they have there and central asia plus someone who i'm speaking about the philosophy you as the you because japan was china legend or keep letters from india. well, in close russia 2, because yes, despite you will having as european your asian, your asian economy union, your c s t o we didn't have your i see of missed an organization with all by fennel, asian countries in russia together. now we have one pretty, and i'm not only talking about the foreign policy agency is i'm talking about economy, economic agencies. so and water rates are sandra g policies. everything was sound

from one centralized point. and now our western partners, as well as we call them, sometimes they, you and the you as the one to and are all those areas such as their own programs. if you do change those systems to adapt those systems to those external actors, all those processes that of the boys when your city and gauge are now being built in energy and water usage. this, that still use a lot of the soviet legacy. but still it is an infrastructure, and we are suggesting our part, i sense only the nature but the west is trying to ease in fear with its natural approaches to android from the outside to interfere with our relations with the answers. and that wasn't. sounds good. all it said don't go back to your ex lubbers at the beginning of that point, but it ends with that. you still have no one else to go to. the quin wouldn't be

good coverage. very pop your poetry, friends with all her axes, like they never betrayed her food with them, store kitchen by what you said. and what we all keep saying. and before a ministry said before the special military operation didn't really know about it and police and ahead of time, you didn't really get much notice. well, that's what it looked like. me. i ask you, how did you find out about it? and what did you feel because i remember what's a grand and i felt when we found out about it, and i just thought it would be easier for you. it could you share with hughes as one feldwood knew what to do with and what do you think about this so called the scared patriarch, patriots who left us and they're embarrassed, and they're in different countries now. and you would think that the new movie says about when a learned and i was not a faith secret where committee nodded state,

secret goodness of the timbers, the odds would not want to dealt into bad here if you permit. as for the feelings that i had when wm, it was announced, news bused these boost. so it was something that nora. something unavoidable, both. but it's like i didn't do so. phil, over the happy fall, it's hard to be happy when the sure is some use hostilities and the citizens of your country are risking their lives to defend justice. but that feeling that it was not as much a doggy good that it was unavoidable in some sense of relief. because for here it's weed from but could not answer the questions from those people from don baton. from russia. yes. 100 percent roles wistful for how long you will go. we will tolerate disciplines m c m c m still sick of making fine. i'll the un charter of all.